>If Stalin and Hitler were both socialist. Why were they fighting each other?Same reason countries fought each other in the Middle Ages despite both of them being kingdoms.
You’d have to be either deeply retarded or incredibly intellectually dishonest to think that Stalin and Hitlers conceptions of socialism were even remotely the same.
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>>18454351Stalin didn't support Darwinism. He banned Charles Darwin and replaced him with Lysenkoism. The rest of those are just half truths or framing things in a certain way.
The difference between fascism and communism is that fascism is more concerned with social engineering and communism is more concerned with economics.
>>18454351Fixed your stupid meme
>Socialism is the same as Marxism
>>18454401It's worse than that.>Soviet communism is the same a socialism
>>18454325I don't think the nazis were socialist but imagine being the retard who bases that argument on the nazis fighting communists and socialists as if leftist infighting is a new phenomenon
>>18454380You made it historically inaccurate bro, he allied with communists to attack conservative Poland.
>>18454557Poland was fascist
>>18454325So socialism is little better than feudalism?
>>18454557Poland was a nationalist dictatorship not that different from Nazi Germany.The world war didn't start over an ideological dispute but a racial one (German vs Slav)
>>18454351>Stalin>Likes a big governmentWrong, Stalin was libertarian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ulM7nHUSqo
>>18454557Conservativism generally means center-right liberalism, ie: a democratic state, which definitely doesn't describe 1930s Poland.You could argue it does describe Czechoslavia but strangely that was the country which the British chose to backstab.In any case it's stupid to assign ideological motives to actors in WW2 when it was all nationalist/racial fighting under a thin ideological veneer
>>18454325Hitler was a corporatist which is the literal opposite of socialism
>>18454351Stalin actually wanted a smaller government while Churchill loved government Stalin was also as socially conservative as you can get while Churchill probably took it up the ass as a boy like every Brit noble
>>18454351Stalin also opposed Darwinism >>18454380Stalin purged jews
>>18454680He only persecuted the Jewish religion. Racially he was a philosemite, as evidence by him being the first world leader to recognize Israel
>>18454325The definition of "Socialism" used to group them together is "They built roads", which is bad because roads lead to serfdom.Man will not be truly free and true capitalism will not be achieved until the Fintech lords rule us from their battle Zeppelins.
>>18454325It's easier to tolerate someone who doesnt threaten your ideology with heretical division. It's why proties and Catholics massacred each other for hundreds of years but ignored Islam and Orthodox Christianity
>>18454675As in the corporation was subject to the state. That said, there was no lost love for unions.
>>18454675>>18455043Oh, wait. It's not love lost.Yo get the point.
>>18454680Just because they were Jews?
>>18454358>Stalin didn't support Darwinism.Read Soveit 1950 biology textbook.
>>18454325>Really retarded question no intelligent person would ever bother to even answer>He answers it himself>The answer is somehow even more retarded and doesn't even answer his own question such awful low effort posting should be deleted honestly
>>18454351>>18454325This. World War II when you really examine it wasn't this "war of ideologies" or whatever gay shit people retcon it as. It was just old fashioned conquest vs conquest and America, Britain, and Israel won.
>>18454351>>18454325If you asked Adolf Hitler what socialism meant, he would likely say:The individual serves the nationThe economy must serve the people, not selfish profitWorkers and owners should cooperate, not fight class warsNational unity matters more than class identityThe state should direct the economy toward national goalsLiberal individualism and uncontrolled capitalism are destructiveMarxism weakens nations by dividing people into classesSocialism means collective duty, sacrifice, discipline, and national solidarityPrivate property is acceptable if it benefits the nationThe nation is one organic community (Volksgemeinschaft)If you asked Joseph Stalin what socialism meant, he would likely say:Major industry should belong to the state or the people collectivelyCapitalist ownership exploits workersProduction should serve society, not private profitThe economy should be centrally plannedThe capitalist class must be abolishedWorkers should rule society through the socialist stateClass struggle is real and unavoidable until capitalism is defeatedSocialism replaces competition with collective organizationPrivate ownership of major industry creates inequality and exploitationSocialism is the transition toward a classless communist society
>>18454325>If Stalin and Hitler were both GOYIM Socialist.Its because of nationalism. They only cared about socializing in their private bubbles. Socialism by design, needs to be international.Goyim (national) socialism is like saying your egregore is going to be an introverted socialite. What does that even mean? Its stupid. If you are social, you need to be extroverted, and look outside your borders. Socialism is an international endeavor. It should be interdependence, not independance. Independence leads to nemesis.
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