Still unrefuted btw
>>18454590That's because most "Christians" aren't actually Christian. Catholics, for example, are all hellbound pagans.Matthew 7:13-14>Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
>>18454590It's by design
>>18454590Celsus was a greco-roman pagan, a religious family widely known for both its lack of central doctrine and infighting. What else happened in Greece in the 2nd century?
>>18454624>salvation treated like a mystery religion>but also evangelizing with zero barrier to entry for initiationNo wonder it's such a disaster.
>>18454628Difference is they weren’t going around branding each other as heretics or out to make the others “not hellenist.” The only thing even vaguely resembling this was the beef between Stoics and Epicureans and even then, it was less of a theological one and more of a social one.Meanwhile e-crusaders will screech on and on about how Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t really Christians and how Gnosticism was actually “heretical.”
>>18454624based>>18454628rampant homosexuality
>>18454590>2nd century redditer Have you read against celsus? Celsus didn't understand Christianity and made up a bunch of lies to slander it.
>>18454681>Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t really Christians and how Gnosticism was actually “heretical.”All of that is true and it's not an "e-christian" thing, it's literally objective fact.
>>18455904This anon is right. A Christian is nominally any Christian who agrees on the Christology of at least the first 3 ecumenical councils. Otherwise you're basically "what is a woman" tier with "A Christian is anyone who identifies as a Christian." William Lane Craig is not a Christian.
>>18455904>>18455954
>>18456049>t. completely assblasted jehovah's witnessDon't worry bro, your dumbass cult's 50th end-times prediction is surely going to come true and you won't have to suffer any missed birthdays or holidays anymore.
>>18456060I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness. I just find it silly that you claim they aren’t Christian even though both of you venerate Christ and identify as Christian.
>>18455895>Celsus didn't understand ChristianityHe did. In fact he literally read Justin Martyr’s Apology>and made up a bunch of lies to slander itNothing he said was wrong. The Old Testament is a pack of nonsensical lies and Jesus was nothing more than the 1st century equivalent of a conman>muh RedditorHe followed the dominant religion of his society. If anything Christians were the original Redditors since they rejected their own culture and branded it as “muh demon worship.”
>>18456177They can claim to be Christian all they want, doesn't make it so. Any more than you claiming to be a woman makes you one.
>>18454639True Christianity is exoteric, yes the priestly rituals are treated as esoteric, their prayers and corepgrahy was always in public books tho and nowadays you have everythong one google search away.If people do not change their habits, their life around when they become Christian then the influences they had are problematic, so there's a huge issue with the spiritual life of said Christians.
>>18456177>A Christian is anyone who identifies as a Christian:^)
>>18456188I’m not a trannie
>>18455904>>18455954The standard for being Christian should be whether your beliefs are compatible with what we know about the range of ideas that were called Christian in the first two centuries or so. None of this nonsense about your special club making a violently enforced questionable copyright claim to the term later.
Imagine if trannies started saying that only they should be called women and real women were attacked until they accepted calling themselves men.
>>18456281>the standard for being a Christian should include what some fringe group believed before being rejected by 95% of everyone else during the councilMeds. Now.
>>18456307The interesting thing though is that you're the tranny in this situation. You're in a very small, delusional minority but you think you're the sane one because you're mentally ill. Now go make the 52nd prediction about how the apocalypse is in 2 more weeks and cope again.
>>18456336>For the gate is narrow and the road is hard that leads to life, and there are few who find it.>there are few who [even] find it
>Blessed are you when people hate you and when they exclude you, revile you, and defame you on account of the Son of Man.>Woe to you when all speak well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.
>My kingdom does not belong to this world. If my kingdom belonged to this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.
>>18454590Maybe it's all according to plan.Mark 4:30-32He also said, “With what can we compare the kingdom of God, or what parable will we use for it? It is like a mustard seed, which, when sown upon the ground, is the smallest of all the seeds on earth, yet when it is sown it grows up and becomes the greatest of all shrubs and puts forth large branches, so that the birds of the air can make nests in its shade.”
>>18456342Yeah and you're the one who's found that narrow path by rejecting the divinity of the man who's saying the very thing you're quoting, is that it? Kek. Fuck off, retard.
>>18454628>lack of central doctrineThat was an intended feature.
