>Declares war on Germany to defend Polish independence.>Gives Poland to Stalin after the war.
>>18454718He wanted to continue with the war against the Soviet union via operation unthinkable. But you already knew that. How do stormniggers defend the fact that Germany teamed up with communists after screeching about how they were going to attack Europe in 2 more weeks since the 1910s?
>>18454718Soviets liberated Poland from Nazi orcs and gave Poland 1/3 of Germany's landWhat more do you poleniggers want?
>>18454718Poland was an independent state from 1947 onwards>Uh but it wasn't a democracy o algoPoland wasn't a democracy in 1939 either. Anyway why is ensuring Polish democracy Britain's responsibility?
Poland is France's historic ally, not England's historic ally. The only reason England got involved is because the alternative was Hitler ethnically cleansing Poles to create a German superstate that would rival the UK and US in global power
>>18454718Poland was a totalitarian state before the war. Stalin didn't actually change that much in terms of muh freedoms.Also Britain didn't 'give' Poland to Stalin. Arguably, Churchill DID give Romania and Bulgaria to Stalin in the Percentages agreement, which conveniently left out any mention of Poland
>>18454718>reduces the Indian population>street shitters on /his/ spend hours a day assuring me this was a bad thing and Churchill was an evil man for doing soClockwork.
>>18454730Anon the British building infrastructure in Jeetland is why there are 1.5 billion of them today
>>18454730If reducing the Indian population was his goal then clearly he wasn't successful.The British (and other colonial empires) generally wanted to INCREASE the population of colonized peoples so they could be used as expendable manpower
>>18454732>a 130 year old train that has barely been maintained since the 40s is why there are billions of jeetsNo. That's a direct result of the green revolution. I wish Churchill would come back and do it again but for real this time.
>>18454722>But you already knew that.I actually didn't. I don't know anything. I'm literally retarded.
>>18454739There were already 400 million jeets at the time of their independence from the UK.There's no evidence of the British limiting the Indian population and plenty of evidence of it increasing rapidly under their rule
>>18454722>He wanted toAKA he didn't. And that's a good thing. Why the fuck should we have started WW3 over whether fucking Poland is democratic or not?
>>18454746For the lulz.
>>18454718>Saves Catholic Poland from genocidal pagan Nazi savages>Gives Uncle Joe his rightful sphere of influence in Eastern Europe as recompense for 30 million Red Army sacrificesI fail to see the problem?
>>18454718You're brown. Real White men support Stalin as the savior of Christiandom from Rothschild/Nazi barbarity
was watching footage from WW2 in poland and I didn't know they were so behind that they were using cavalry and shit to fight off germany, i'm seeing them fight valiantly just thinking goddamn someone help these underdogs out
>>18454814You know the Germans were also using cavalry against the Poles and would continue to use horses and carts as a huge chunk of their logistics throughout the war?
>>18454732i do not blame the British for making india livable while it was their colony, the world would be a much better place if they never gave it up
>>18454718Roosevelt/Truman did thatBritain was a spent force in 1945, they were lucky to keep Greece out of the Soviet bloc. Realistically, Churchill didn't have a choice.
>>18454746well shit if we did we would've conquered Russia once and for all with the nukes
>>18454718Winston was not the pm that declared war
>>18454718polacks learn their place :)>>18454730kek it do be like that
>>18454817no i did not ive mostly just heard about the tanks and planes
>>18454718>Churchill declared war on GermanyYou really are Indian!
>>18454718Stalin was the greatest hero in European history
>>18454828His warmongering in parliament forced Chamberlain to declare war.
It's actually not a stretch to say Churchill was the de facto leader of the pro-war faction in 1939. Obviously he wasn't the only British politician who wanted war with Germany (Anthony Eden was another) but he was the most publicly vocal and prominent.I don't know why Churchill stans constantly mock this and act like they're intelligent for pointing out Churchill wasn't PM in 1939. And anyway, if going to war with Germany was a good idea then shouldn't they be proud of the role Churchill played in that?
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>>18454718Churchill saved the Poles from extinction by kraut.Good job Winston, we owe you.
>>18455267>there are brown people in your country because you didn't let gaydolf shitler bomb you in 1940
>>18455345>Noooooo sir us fighting for liberal democracy doesn't have anything to do with liberal democracy allowing Browns into the West.Say it with me:YOUDESERVEWHATYOUTOLERATE
>>18454718>defend Polish independenceRetard. It was a red line in the sand against Hitler. Why did Hitler declare war on Poland knowing it would drag France and Britian into it?
>The disgraced backbencher had enough political influence to strongarm parliament o algo
>>18454718based Churchill.
>>18455267>some easten european shithole germans i didn't know the existence of until now is getting genocided by the Poles? We must stop this! We shall sacrifice our entire Reich and use Indian and Asian troops to rape European women because that'll show those heckin' Polacks!
>>18455364Another bad faith retarded strawman.He was the most vocal leader of the pro-war faction within parliament, and this faction was clearly influential enough to make him prime minister less than a year later.Your argument just boils down to>Noo we can't hold him to account for what he advocated for and for what he accomplishedAnd if what he accomplished was a good thing than why the fuck do you not want to give him credit?
>>18455408And yet the one who declared war on germany was pro peace pro germany politician like Chamberlain and not Churchill
>>18455353Germany only exists in the first place because America let it. Have you said thank you to an American today, trannazi?
>>18455423So what? Chamberlain literally said he wasn't surprised the Czech romp state was occupied and he did not care. Then he had to do a 180 because of Churchills rabble rousing with 'British honor has been sullied!'
>>18455423That's how parliamentary politics works.Since you're not very intelligent I'll use a modern analogy to make it easier. David Cameron didn't want Brexit and yet it was his government which called a referendum on the subject. Why? Because there were factions within his party which DID want Brexit and they were able to exert pressure on him.
The war should start in 36 over Austria with coalition of France, UK, Italy, Czechia and Poland stomping germs.
>>18455423So seems like it was the will of British people and their leaders, not Churchil's
After the Sudeten Crisis the opinion of various appeasers like Halifax hardened towards Germany. Yet for some reason certain people seem to believe Churchil to some sort of shadow-dictator.
>>18455423It was actually older generation statesmen like David Lloyd George who were pro-Germany, recognizing that another world war would be the final nail in England's coffin.Chamberlain played a middle ground between Lloyd George and Churchill until eventually bending to the will of the rabble
>>18455438>my only experience of historical geopolitics comes from the GOI IV map-painting game and this is my contribution to this discussion
>>18455443Yeah exactly. The Bongs in general didn't wanted war and were bending backwards but germs are so great at diplomacy that they pissed everyone to a point that even pro german faction was ''enough with that hunnish shit''
>>18455449>didn't wanted and were bending backwardsPoolack detected
>>18455449Please for the love of God learn English if you're going to larp as an English supremacist
>>18455443mean to reply to >>18455435>>18455449yeah, there were other reason too but Ribbentrop being a literaly time traveling anti nazi who did almost every single thing wrong on purpose didn't help
>>18455403Polegods always rape and genocide germshits, always succesfully
>>18455456>call british bongs>larp as english supremacistdumbass
>>18455463You literally lost and got occupied by the Soviet Union, fucking retard.
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>>18455463Poles always win and colonise germutts, germutty is the India and Poles are Anglos
>>18454920I think it was Hitler's invasion of Poland that forced that.
>>18455575Gets bleached
>>18454718I know polcels don’t understand history, but the polish people’s republic was an independent nation The Soviets assisted reconstruction and gave Poland a shit ton of land too
>>18454718>Declares war on Germany to defend Polish independence.Winston Churchill wasn't PM when Britain declared war on Germany. And Britain didn't declare war to "defend independence" or whatever nonsense you've concocted this time, they declared war because they had a defensive alliance, the terms of which explicitly stated that if Poland was attacked by Germany, Britain would come to its aid, and vice versa. The alliance said nothing about the USSR, nor about guaranteeing polish independence. Only that Britain would come to Poland's aid if it was invaded, which Britain did, to the letter of its agreement, even though it was not favorable for Britain to do so.Naziboos are the dumbest motherfuckers on this board and that is saying a lot.
>>18454920No he wasn't, Britain was bound by the terms of its defensive alliance with Poland to to declare war in 1939. I know you third worldists don't understand the concept of honoring treaties and alliances, so you find this confusing.
>>18455444It's just typical of people from the third world to project their own understanding of politics onto the west. In their countries, everything is decided by one strong-man leader who rules either overtly as dictator, or who controls the government "unofficially". Thus, they ascribe all British policy toward Germany in the interwar and WW2 eras as being Churchill's designs.
>>18455267Nice strawman
>>18454814Cavalry at that point was primarily used as a mobile reserve/maneuvering force. They did still have swords and there were a few cavalry charges in WWII but the main purpose of cavalry was to be infantry but a bit faster. Only the western allies were able to pull off full mechanisation of their armies.
>>18455586>the polish people’s republic was an independent nation
>>18454746>Why the fuck should we have started WW3 over whether fucking Poland is democratic or not?why WW2?
>>18454814German cavalry and Slavic cavalry were two different things mind you. The Russian 1st Guards Cavalry Corps kicked Guderian's ass so hard at Moscow that Hitler removed his from command to save themselves from further embarrassments kek.
>>18455575Brazilian talk weird in English?
>>18455819It wasn't about Poland being democratic?
>>18454728>The German empire rivaled the UK and U.S.1. I wish2. This is in the interests of Britain and America because Germans are honest and industrious people.Germans >>>> HIVans
>>18454828PM doesn’t hold absolute power. Power is distributed among parliamentary cliques. Churchill created the most powerful clique and it was explicitly pro-jewish and pro-war from 1936 onward.>>18455444>appeasersAppeasers? As opposed to what?Why is Britain involved in the Sudete question at all?>uhhh Britain has a right to impose itself on EuropeWhat the fuck lmao???>uh balance uv powahs guvThen you need a strong Germany to balance the USSR>uhh Germany was a war mongerGermany always chose peace and convenience and diplomacy throughout the 30s. Germany had to be forced into war by Poles literally invading a German city and Ruzzians arresting 50,000 Germans.If a foreign country arrested 50,000 Americans ZOGnald would nuke them that evening.No one ever said Churchill was a shadow dictator, we correctly state he used his influence in parliament and as a fixer to paint Britain into a corner where they are forced into war.
>>18456260but germs are constantly losing and getting raped by Poles so that makes no sense
>>18456260>Churchill created the most powerful cliqueSo seems like he had a lot of support from people if his political clique was so powerful
>>18455617>>18455581Britain wasn’t bound by anything. They had agency. They could betray Poland to Germany in September, you know like they did in May five years down the line.Britain also could have just not given a guarantee to Poland?I mean they weren’t able to actually help Poland. And the guarantee was only against Germany and not literally anyone else such as the USSR.Britain didnt want to protect Poland, they wanted a war with Germany.They thought they’d get one with the Czechs until the Czechs made an intelligent decision and joined Germany.Britain wanted war.Germany did not.If Britain truly wanted peace they’d have accepted the German peace offer which was a return to the status quo except Danzig would rejoin Germany.Literally zero reason not to accept this.>but in the future Hitler might attack someone elseSpeculation and likely untrue given Hitler’s honesty throughout the 30s and fair dealing with Italy, Lithuania, Czechs, Austria, and Hungarians.
>>18455611You’re admitting they were right. The British deliberately put themselves into an inexplicably retarded position to get a war with Germany, the man behind it was backed by international jewry.
>>18456265it feels so good to know that those retarded germs who larped as the master race ened up rotting with the trash, a fitting end to their existance
>>18456265Germany demolished Poland in 35 days.>>18456272Yes a lot of support from wealthy jews.He was extremely unpopular with the common goy
>>18456282And yet they’re still the master race.Higher HDI. Higher GDP. Less crime.>but they’re being ruinedYou are celebrating a superior people being overrun by orcs?Gross.
>>18456289but people were voting for his "clique"
>>18456292Germany has higher overall crime rates compared to Poland, which is widely considered one of Europe's safest countries. Germany experiences a higher volume of reported crime and higher homicide rates, while Poland has lower overall crime rates but higher road traffic fatalities.
>>18456298>germs are crime-loving niggerscolor me suprised we didn't murder enough of those animals in WW2
>>18454718Germutts always get raped and genocided by Polish Gods
germshits always lose to Poland
>>18456297No they weren’t. Just like no one voted for the Blair institute.
germutts always get conquered and genocided by Catholic Poles because it is God's will
>>18456312how all those democratic politicians got into power if no one was voting for them or their parties?
>>18456326Fixers like Churchill were able to corrupt sitting members of parliament and sway them to his side.There was no vote on the war and no vote on if Britain should involve itself in continental conflict.If you don’t know by now how Tony Blair rules without being elected then I can’t help you. I don’t know man, learn your own country’s politics??
>>18456349So it was people who where choosen by the British nation who declared the war, and there was no backslash at all, no mass anti-war protest etc Did nazis hold the vote every time they were invading a country?
>>18456279>you can't honor treaties that you sign because.....that's fucking jewish!Just end it already faggot.
>>18456369the entire internet neo-nazi ideology on the internet is based on the idea that three or four evil Jews are hiding in some invisible basement somewhere, making all the decisions, and that everyone follows them completely, no question asked0 agency, 0 other politcal, economic, military or social factors, just evil people doing orders of evil invisible jews, anything you don't like is the result of invisible Jews forcing people to be gay or to not be racists etc, that is all
>>18455403False equivalence; Germans started the war over their own people getting massacred. The average Brit barely knew about Poland and Germany posed no threat to Western Europe as Hitler made clear that he held no grudges against either France or the UK in Mein Kampf.>Asian Wehrmacht and SS divisionsMade up less than 1% of the German forces, whereas millions of Africans and Indians fought in the British, French, and US armies.>>18455429Thank them for what? Importing millions of Browns into all of Europe? At least their own country is getting flooded by Beaners as comeuppance.
>>18456408>Germans started the warI thought that was Britain tricking Poles into invading danzig o algo
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