The better question is how do atheists cope with the Axis of Evil?
>>18455302Matter came from a singularity, not nothing
>>18455302You need a lot of faith to be an atheist.
>>18455302The notion that atheists think the universe just popped out of absolute nothing is a strawman. Most intelligent atheists I know accept that we don't fully understand the ultimate origin yet, but they point to things like quantum fields, eternal inflation, or the laws of physics themselves as the starting point, not 'nothing' in the philosophical sense, and certainly not magic.
>>18455302If god came from nothing, why can't the universe / big bang? Or if god has always existed, why couldn't the universe have always existed?
>Science doesn't make sense because I don't understand it o algo
Remember, the fossils were planted there in million year old rock by atheists. How? Don't ask me about the logistics, I just know.
>>18455358But not fossil fuels. Jesus wants you to drive a car.
>>18455306What caused that singularity? Nothing?
>>18455311>Atheists ignore philosophy because it's inconvenient to their worldview
>>18455302Creationists have to strawman scientific cosmology because they don't understand it>>18455426>What caused that singularity?It's an unknown question. Scientists are trying to figure it out with researchIf it were up to people like OP, people would be too busy fighting each other over what their favorite sky spook hates the most to give an empirical answer
>God just had always existed nothing else>BANG!>Magical Jews and impossible to prove historical events like global floods and conquests of people who never existedSomethings not adding up here…
>>18455302>And that's why you need to cut your foreskin and dedicate your life worshipping Jewish Wizardry No thanks
>>18455302>>18455308This
>>18455311There is a God who is eternal and he created it. All things were made by him. No mind can comprehend how old he is and how long he's been here. He is the God of Moses. If you do what he says you will reach eternal life, doing anything other than what he commanded will lead to permanent death.His advice, his instructions and his words are the most valuable treasure humans currently possess. This was not granted to most generations of men before us and it might disappear forever tomorrow. Read it while you can.
>>18455302Something has to come from something else, yes.That doesn't validate any earthly religion.
>>18455302the fact that plato's parmenides sucks so much at defining nothing should point you to the direction that the word nothing is meaningful only in the usual context of its use, when you expect something to be there and it is not. Otherwise you're just doing a word salad and basing your beliefs on that.We have yet to encounter something that we can call "nothing"Therefore saying that things didnt or did come from nothing is absolute retardation. If I wanted to be even more reductionist I'd say that the neural conformities that each form the feathered concepts you are mixing together when forming a thought, are not expected to ever from something that is not recursive to their properties. If instructions were lost at our level of existence, there is no way our logic based on physical interaction can go metaphysical. Metaphysics is a ruse of language
>>18455302Religious people believe the exact same thing, except you replace "NOTHING" with "GOD". Otherwise, literally the same thing. A Catholic came up with this theory.PS kill yourself
>>18455889Good post, have a (You), friend.
>>18455914God created it with words. He says a thing and it happens because he said so.
>>18455556>It's an unknown question. Scientists are trying to figure it out with researchits funny scientists have so much hubris to believe they will ever attain any answer to this shit when we can't even man a flight over to mars at this hour lol
>>18455311This is a cope argument. Most atheists absolutely do believe everything started with the Big Bang and see nothing wrong with that statement. Even worse is the ones who argue the Universe caused itself.
>>18455329Because we observe linear time and entropy on this plane of existence. To say that a universe is self-reliant and independent is incoherent nonsense.
>>18455950Less so than le magic Jew came from nuffin and made a planet that's 70% salt water just for us.
>>18455358>fossils exist>dinosaurs exist>BUT DON'T EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER QUESTION WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GIANT HUMAN SKELETONS IN THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION BASEMENT!!!!!!!!!
>>18455952>retarded strawman argument
>Except God, God for some reason came from nothingEx Nihilo isn't even Biblically accurate anyways, that's a later Christian theological perspective. In the original Hebrew, God is described as having shaped reality out of a pre existing primordial chaos (the "waters") because the ancient Jews were probably inspired by Hellenistic mythology that had a similar creation story.
>>18455961>because the ancient Jews were probably inspired by Hellenistic mythology that had a similar creation story.Which in turn were inspired by the early Sumerians.
>>18455955Yup, it's meds time.
>>18455958Mind telling me what God came from if that's a strawman?
>>18455941The only path to attain the knowledge of creation is to become afraid of God.
>>18455977NTA God is Eternal. We cannot comprehend it.
>>18455845We’re simply apes on a mud rock flying through space surrounded by trillions of other galaxies the idea that we are of any significance is fucking retarded
>>18455991>TV is evil.>TV lied to you.
>>18455986>my theology is nonsensical babbleAt least you're honest.
>>18455972>........a free thinker?>LOBOTOMY TIME!
>>18455977God is not contingent.
>>18456166>God exists outside of time and spaceI feel like this kind of argument works best for a Deist or Pantheist God than it does for a personal Abrahamic one. Because I don't think such a God can even be personal, you've reduced God down to some omniscient totality. God is experiencing the past and the future at once and the entire universe at once, he exists outside of time itself, cause-and-effect wouldn't even apply to such a deity, every action he takes he already knows the outcome of before he even takes such action. That's not a personal God, that's just the universe itself being indifferent to the human concept of time
>>18456179NTA you failed to explain why should a God that magnificent would not be interested in his own creation or have love for it?
>>18456192How much do you care about and love ants?
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>>18456179That's just Spinozian bullshit, and "necessary being" (as in the case of deism/pantheism) is entirely contingent anyways.
>>18456198I didn't create ants and know every detail about them.
