What went so wrong? It seemed being so powerful was their curse, they could have created an entire continent full of white people, and remaining indigenous peoples in their own safe spaces sort of like Russia rather than the abominations that exist today, had they lasted just one century more
>What went so wrong? It seemed being so powerful was their curse, they could have created an entire continent full of white people, and remaining indigenous peoples in their own safe spaces sort of like Russia rather than the abominations that exist today, had they lasted just one century more>LEAST CRETINIC UNGODLY ANGLO RACIST....
>>18456686It was never that big.>>18456688Nobody cares what a mexshitcan thinks. Can we get some real Iberian people in this thread?
>Nobody cares what a mexshitcan thinks. Can we get some real Iberian people in this thread?
>>18456689>It was never that big.It was way bigger...
>>18456692lol
>reduce half a dozen unique civilisations to reggaeton shitholesbased
>>18456702>I've never opened a history book in my life
>>18456702Importing slaves from africa was another sin done to the new world
>>18456702>>reduce half a dozen unique civilisations to reggaeton shitholesThat that kind of degenerate "music" is anglo influence. Enjoy your "freedom".
>That that kind of degenerate "music" is anglo influence. Enjoy your "freedom".
>>18456688>>18456692Dumb paisa
Just imagine a place like this actually being inhabitated by iberians, the irish and austrians, and not brown people
>>18456686what were Americans saying about it when they were pushing west? did they accept the Spanish border or were they planning on disregarding it?
>Dumb paisa>Just imagine a place like this actually being inhabitated by iberians, the irish and austrians, and not brown people
>>18456724Mexshitcano is seething lmfao. Reminder that there are actually Spaniards on /int/ and /pol/ and they laugh at you every day.
>>18456744SCHIZOPATH, THOSE ARE THE DEMONS IN YOUR ROOM LAUGHING AT YOU...SEEK HELP.
>>18456750Imagine your homeland being the site of grand ancient civilizations that carved out a living completely independent of the old world and built architectural marvels that people travel from all over the world to see.Then you decide to worship asspaniards instead. Not even Italians; the original examples of Mediterranean European greatness. But a bunch of fucking spics that were raped by Arabs for centuries. Embarrassing.
>>18456718Louisiana wasn't spanish anymore by then, and Napoleon was willing to sell it, Florida was also sold by Spain later on, and by then Mexico was becoming independent so no more spanish territories in north america to worry about
>>18456760?
That fact that some plucky pirates were able to drive it into bankruptcy by capturing what was essentially a glorified monetary transport show how much of a paper tiger it was.
>>18456769Spain was facing the rest of the world, literally everyone from jews, muslims, other catholics, and protestants wanted to destroy it.
>OYE WEY WHAT IF WE LIKE SPEND ALL OUR MONEY FIGHTING WARS IN AMERICA, EUROPE, ASIA AND >ALSO FUCK MODERN ECONOMICS ESE. FUCK THE FREE MARKET FUCK BANKS WE'LL JUST RELY ON OUR DUMBASS AUTARKIC MERCANTILIST SYSTEM OF INTERNAL TRADING WITHIN OUR EMPIRE LMAAAO>ALSO LET'S ALIENATE EVERYONE LIVING IN THE COLONIES INCLUDING OUR OWN FLESH AND BLOOD CREOLES
>>18456773>FUCK THE FREE MARKET FUCK BANKSBased, fuck those judaic systems
>>18456769He stole the money to fund an useless colony in south america that didn't last. The ghost of Kyiv of his era.
>>18456772Protestants saved Spain, but you aren't mature enough to understand that.
>>18456780Wrong, hombre, it went towards the taking of an 'invincible' fortress city.
>>18456784No one really knows who those are, but everyone in the netherlands knows a lot about this humble person :)
>>18456686>racebaitingFor several centuries it was one of the most powerful entities on earth. Nothing lasts forever but it had a good run
Refused to invest in their public, both in colonies and Spain itself. It's the same answer everywhere you look. The less you leave over for the public the shittier the place is. Always.
>>18456786Yeah, but their legacy was a fucking disaster, when it could have been better.
>>18456787Was the same case for the british, wanted to tax the fuck out of their 13 colonies but without giving them proper representation
>>18456788Their legacy is fine. They survived the commie civil wars and managed not to get dragged into either world war on a large scale.>Inb4 Latin AmericaThat's not their legacy. That's just the rump states left behind by their extraction colonies. The empire was based in Spain and nothing happened without direct say so from the Queen.It's like claiming Jamaica is the British empires legacy. It's not. It's just an abandoned sugar cane factory.
>>18456785That guy wanted to commit suicide after facing down the Dutch btw.
>>18456792>Their legacy is fine.>Inb4 Latin AmericaYeah, like how everyone correlates the spanish language with poverty, corruption and salsa>It's like claiming Jamaica is the British empires legacy.Yes it is, even if it's negative
>>18456796>Americans who import Mexicans to mow their lawns correlates the spanish language with poverty, corruption and salsaFtfy.
>>18456778Actually fuck both of these things, Spain can't even do mercantilism right.
Habsburg treated Spain and its colonies as something to be used in their forever wars in italy and germanyIt would be much better for spaniards if they never got ruled by them and instead focus on developing Spain and its colonies and conquering north africa from the ottomans
>>18456797Yeah, that's negative legacy in the new world.
>>18456794He conquered Portugal next instead despite being so old
>>18456799>forever warsas i mentioned in the OP, being so powerful was their curse. They would have been conquered and crushed has they decided to develop themselves
>>18456802And what is Portugal today?
>>18456806Same irrelevant nation as the rest of europe
>>18456800The new world was just an infinite money glitch that they exploited to fund wars in Europe. They didn't care about leaving a legacy in some backwater part of Arizona or the southern cone. You didn't read my original post because you're a neurotic little schizo desperate to get a word out like every other poster on this board.
>>18456808These 2 good nations came out of it, one still remains at the hands of the crown. while the rest of the american continent is an abomination, with Spain and Portugal paying for it.
>>18456808Uhhh?
>>18456831Well most of that was only built after independence. The Zocalo didn't look like that during the 18th century.
>>18456807Nice cope, spicboy, now prepare my bed and beer, or you'll get no tip.
>>18456843It pretty much looked like that before independence, you don't try to build your city's replicas in the new world, if you don't want a legacy
>>18456686They spent all their money on cathedrals and enriching royal coffers while the Spanish economy decayed and stayed a poor peasant shithole while the rest of Europe developed
>>18456778North Koreanizing your country will never bring it prosperity sorry chud
>>18456854Because there is so much prosperity under free market and banks...By the way why do natives in europe feel so foreigner in their own capital cities?
>>18456882>Because there is so much prosperity under free market and banksCorrect, nobody wants to live like a subsistence farmer peasant and would 99 times out of 100 choose modern amenities and an air conditioned office and starting a business job over dirt farming in the sun
>>18456882If you live in a western country there’s almost a 100% chance you’ve never had to go hungry for a season because of a bad harvest, free markets are pretty good.
>>18456686>>18456808>when you win so hard you trigger an overflow glitch and get total defeat instead
>>18456854North Koreanizing Spain would have been kino, would have turned it into a worker's utopia. Instead, we live in the bad timeline where the nationalists won the civil war. The effects of that ruinous turning point are felt to this very day.>>18457099>>18457101You can't afford groceries or ever hope of buying a home.
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>>18456686>What went so wrong?Everything, you retarded wignat.Spain's population, even at its peak, was never the largest in Europe like France's (29-30 million). It's impossible to populate an entire continent of 42,550,000 km2 with 7-9 million people without emptying Spain.While the Spanish Empire had already reached its colossal size in the 17th century, the US was only 10-15% (Thirteen Colonies) its modern size until the 19th century with the Louisiana Purchase and Manifest Destiny because it is only possible to inhabit a small population (5.2 million) by concentrating it some points of the land.Allowing Spain's enemies to populate the continent to counter this would cause them to lose control.It was the Criollos who led the Hispanic Independence Movements, if Hispanic America had been like the Thirteen Colonies, the Spanish Empire would have lasted 200 years less than them since they wouldn't want to work in mines.It was more profitable for the Habsburgs to create a caste system by manipulating the Criollos, Mestizos and exploiting Amerindian masses in mines to finance religious wars in Europe than to empower them in America.
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>>18456792https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18414604/#q18415997https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18414604/#q18415326https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17512591/#q17512591https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17558509/#q17558509https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17523941/#q17526715
>>18457223never post this disgusting AIslop ever again, the spirits of the aztecs did not seek vengeance against the spaniards who acted for their god as they would but they will surely send curses upon you for this abomination
>>18456692>>18456688You're mentally ill.Take meds.
>>18457214>>18457217>>18457220>>18457221Browns really get excited about a bunch of rocks and Warriors fighting with sticks
>>18457911>pre gunpowder warfareUgh...it's le brown :/>pre gunpowder warfare, EuropeOMG SO TRUE /POL/SISTERS
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>>18457099>>18457101Woah, you are right, i am so happy europe can import cheap slop from south America, get things Made in china and feel like a Foreigner in their own countries
>>18456686>What went so wrong?Lose in Europe to France, Lose Portugal to England, isolationism galore because Protestantism, Lose Italy and other shits in the War of the Spanish Succession and ofc in the XIX Napoleon and the Carlist Wars, yw.
>>18457223stop posting this inaccurate and hideous ai slop
>>18456686>90% of your empire is braindead gibbering latinx slumdogscan't build anything on those foundations
>>18458031All european empires had the same problem
>>18457912European were capable to innovate warfare. While those uncivilized peoples were still fighting with fucking sticks
>>18456686>including the Pacific Northwest and Louisiana Midwest bruh come on, the Comanche would massacre any Spaniard north of the Rio Grande they didn't control shit
>>18456778>Judaism is when supply and demand o algo I never believed the "high IQ Jews" myth, but oh man am I starting to believe the "anti-Semites are low IQ" one
>>18456792Denying that Latin America is their imperial legacy is insane, on par with denying that the Roman Empire's legacy wasn't all the Latin derived speaking nations of Europe lmao
>>18458629>but oh man am I starting to believe the "anti-Semites are low IQ" oneOf course you do, if you are a jew that got expelled from Spain for being vile creatures
>>18458625Spain was ready to deal with them, and sent them as slaves to Cuba
>>18458665Comacheria was a defacto sovereign territory for like 400 years straight up until Americans showed up. Nobody could or would enter it on foot because it meant being captured and killed by horse archers. You are high on copium.
>>18456686Latin American would've been such a paradise if they extended the Limpieza de Sangre rule, by forbidding miscegenation, and sending all the savages to their possessions in Africa.
>>18456799Fax. It's almost like being ruled by a foreign dynasty, that treats you like an afterthought, leads to negative consequences for the country.
>>18457227>>18458021Why seethe so much about an AI picture of those savages?
>>18456799Algiers massacred a Spanish invasion force led by Cortez in 1541.
>>18456686>What went so wrong?1. Importing infinity gold and silver and making absolutely zero effort to plan for the impact this will have on your economy2. Having a wildly inconsistent economic and political setup depending which part of Spain you're in3. Decentralised as fuck for far, far too long4. Conquering the new world and its people in the name of God, rather than settling it; Spanish settlements were not set up to be self-sufficient, instead acting as extraction economies/glorified church missions5. Check it out bro my country is made of hostile pretenders to the throneYou literally have to start radically changing things as early as the 16th Century to prevent the death of the Spanish Empire. It was very cool, but only for a while.
