>>18458615
that's like a womay saying "i am looking a a man" and someone under 6'2" replies

>byzantine
>roman

>>18458627
When did they stop being Roman in your view?

>>18458627
They are literally the eastern roman empire. The eastern provinces were considered fully Roman territories even despite the fact the people there mostly spoke Greek. When Diocletian divided the Empire, he, the senior Augustus, chose to rule from the Eastern half, leaving the western provinces to his junior counterpart. He didn't rebrand his part of the empire, it was still the Roman Empire. Constantine ruled the entire empire, not just part of it, from his chosen capital of Constantinople. He still styled himself the Roman Emperor, and everybody considered him to be the Emperor of Rome, and his empire to be the Roman Empire. And when the division between eastern and western halves of the empire set in, at no point did the eastern emperor declare he was no longer a Roman, nor did he break with any Roman traditions, but continued to rule in the Roman style.

So at what point did the Eastern Roman Empire cease to be Roman? They certainly never stopped considering themselves to be Roman, and continuously ruled int he Roman style.

>>18459823
No body is saying Diocletian wasn't Roman, because he spoke Latin and the law of the state was in Latin, the language of Rome.
When they changed the language of governence to Greek and their religion to Orthodoxy they lost all traces of their Roman heritage.

>>18459783
Post 4th crusade. After that they were a roman successor state, not the roman empire.

>>18459823
>doesn't control rome
>isnt holy
>or an empire

>>18459823
>So at what point did the Eastern Roman Empire cease to be Roman?
not before constantine and not later than after ustinian

>>18459783
476 AD

>>18458627
>>18459823
Greek communities in Turkey still call themselves Romaioi. Romaioi is still synonymous with Hellene in the Greek world.

>>18459823
If I genetically tested these "Romans" they would plot with Greeks.
The state was Roman in that it was a continuation of the state called Rome, founded by Iron Age Central Italians (Romans).
But it wasn't racially and genetically Roman. To some that is the far more important meaning of "Roman".

>>18458615
Everything good we associate with the Roman Empire was long dead by the time of the Byzantine Empire.

>>18458618
Kind of like if I'd say "I'm looking at a woman" and a tranny replies. Women are mental infants.