diplomatic autism aside, did he make a good empire? I have heard mixed reports on whether the 2nd French Empire under Nappy III was a retarded dysfunctional power grab or a competently designed regime
He was a genius. He only failed because Europe ganged up on him.(Funny how this also applies to his uncle)
>>18458945Compared to whatever retardation the Orleanists or Legitimists were likely to produce it was okay.
>>18458992Europe is a perfect example of the crabs in a bucket mentality. The World Wars was God's punishment for their enmity.
>>18459387Had the world wars never happened, Europe could have very much kept their empires for at least another couple centuries
>>18459374Legitimists would've totally won the 1873 grand assembly if he'd just swallowed his pride and accepted the tricolor flag.
>>18459697Iirc this was a family feud bridge burning. The terms were that a Legitimist would become King with an Orleanist heir and the Legitimist came up with the flag excuse as a sort of "get fucked, cunt" to his Orleanist cousin rivals, denying them both the throne out of spite
>>18458945Excellent internally, france prospered under his reign, industrial revolution got going, helping create Italy was also based, if he wasn't so retarded diplomatically he'd probably be remembered up there with the Catherines and Peters the Greats of the world as a grand reformer
>>18458945You think wasting men and millions of francs in resources in invading the Balkans and Mexico is a smart move?
>>18460121This. He's the reason France is known the world over for the avant-garde, inspiring the vast majority of Francophiles, but I don't know how high you have to get on your own farts to think something like invading Mexico across thousands of miles of ocean to install a puppet king, let alone picking a fight with Prussia at the height of their military prowess was a good idea
>>18460023Orleanist are the poison of France. These mfs don't deserve any rights for being such traitors to France. They voted for Louis XVI execution LMAO, their own family. They destroyed everything Louis XVIII and Charles X tried to rebuild after the freemanson and bourgeois disaster but still they claim for the holy crown. Fuck off and open your mouth to that giant hedge fund's cock
>>18460873>invading Mexico across thousands of miles of ocean to install a puppet kingAt zero cost to france whilst the reward would be a puppet regime bordering america with vast mineral and agricultural resources>picking a fight with Prussia at the height of their military prowess France was also at the height of its military prowess, it beat russia, it beat austria, it was winning in africa, their equipment was modern, might as well go for it. Also remember that just a few years prior the prussians almost lost to denmark, victory did not seem impossible
>>18460902>VIVE LA EMPIRE FRANÇ-ACKFace it, he could've done so so much more if he didn't make the stupidest possible foreign policy moves. Should've just concentrated on fucking the North African kingdoms while France had early mechanized warfare at its disposal and they had tribesmen with muskets
>>18460910>>18460902If he just back Austria in 1859, none of this mess never happen.
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