What went wrong?
>>18459372Scots.
>>18459372It merged to form scotland. The real laugh is when the native Scots were replaced by Anglos and Frisians later on in the middle ages rendering early scottish history irrelevent
>>18459375Scots is literally a frisian dialect of english
>>18459378>slurred speech and an inability to spell is a dialectDo Haggisniggers really?
>>18459402Made me kekIt's just drunk English afterall.
>>18459402>>18459406you guys should listen to someone from the low countries speak
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>>18459375>The real laugh is when the native Scots were replaced by Anglos and Frisians later on in the middle ages rendering early scottish history irrelevent>get reconquered by Celts>win cultural victory anyway by stealing their name and using it for your own English dialect
>>18459431Dutch is so weird. I’ve had a conversation with a Dutch guy speaking only Dutch and I was only speaking English. We didn’t get 100% of what the other was saying of course but the conversation flowed pretty normally. If we hear Dutch as silly English do they hear English as serious Dutch?
>>18459372Easily the most kino of all the post Roman kingdoms. We could have had a Britonnic speaking state and unique culture in the Lowlands.Anyway to answer your question, it was never that strong to begin with, it was a tribal kingdom based around a very hard to hit fortress (Alt Clut/Dumbarton), the land was too much of a hassle for Northumbria to hold or the Scots to properly conquer. But after the Norse sacked Dumbarton in 870, the king was killed and they had to move their capital to Govan, which was far weaker as an ecclesiastical and political centre. Eventually it became a satrap of the Scots but seems to have held quasi independence into the 11th century. It would have been very cool to see how a high medieval Cumbric culture would have developed.
>>18459434>Be early medieval scotland>mix of picts, gaelic, britonic, and anglo kingdoms>eventually merge to form Alba and later Scotland>picts somehow completely disappear >2 centuries pass>more anglos and frisians migrate into scotland which causes the end of gaelic and briton languages bro this is even more pathetic than ireland
Granted Frisians were the traders in the middle ages so they had an outsized influence. Frisians and Anglo only really settled in the lowlands anyway but their culture came to dominate
What a clusterfuck. Why do they larp instead of admitting they're just a slightly different flavor of anglo-saxon?
>>18459453we wuz Picts
>>18459453You can tell scotish history from the list of languages>irish, gaelic, cumbricearly history>scots and flemishpost merger and integration into european economy>FrenchScot-French alliance to stem the tide of english dominance over the isles >englishI guess it says 1707 because that's when the kingdom of scotland merged with england but around this time scots disappeared and was replaced by EnglishNo clue what the hell norn is supposed to be
>sir, a second viking squadron has entered the Clyde
>>18459372The Bernician chads (my ancestors :) ) BTFO.Any Strathclydicucks want some more? I'm right here, fags.
What are the best books on medieval scotland. It's so mysterious
>>18459372Every other briton kingdom in the north jobbed to anglos long agoAny support that they could get thru sea was cut by norse who conquered the MannAfter few capital raids by norse they were too broke to do shit so they were absorbed by gaels/scots
>>18459481Member of the Cumbrian dynasty in-exile here :) Get the fuck out of my thread you Saxon swine.
>>18459443Not really. Scotland was a kingdom first not a people. The Scots came over from Ireland, merged with the Picts to form the Kingdom of Alba, then conquered Cumbric and English speaking peoples. Then the English language became the language of burghs snd towns by an event known as the Davidian Revolution, where King David let in Anglo-Norman lords and merchants to boost his economy. By the 16th century, most of the court spoke Scots, a dialect of Middle English, and most of the common folk had began to pick it up too, but in the Lowlands, they either always spoke a dialect of Anglo-Saxon or went straight from Cumbric to Scots (as that was the language of the towns)The Gaels founded the kingdom but after 1000 AD were always just one people in it. Their language wasn’t economically or socially relevant outside the small corner of Britain in which they lived thus it dwindled.
>>18459510tldr scots are cucks
>>18459510>the Davidian Revolution, where King David let in Anglo-Norman lords and merchants to boost his economyI see bringing in pakis and jeets in the modern era has a historical precedent
>>18459521It was a thousand year process and half the people in the Scottish kingdom weren’t even Gaelic Scots is what I’m getting at. You’ve got to remember the population was below half a million for most of this. Scotland was a tiny kingdom with little arable land.
>>18459531The majority of the population of England were britons but the anglo-saxons managed to force english on them
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>>18459465norn is an scandinavian/norwegian dialect that was spoken in Caithness and Orkney
>>18459527It has long been a common practice of inviting immigrants from wealthier/mercantile cultures to develop urban centers and key industrial/trade sectors that the native population lacks the connections, numbers or knowledge to develop. For example, Saxons in in the Balkans, or the Sudeten Germans in Bohemia.
>>18459554For losers like ones you listed maybe
>>18459504>mfw Coombrains want to keep the island for themselvesnothing personnel
>>18459582>mfw seeing all the Bernician sluts seeking refuge in my lands after their men jobbed to the Norse harder than we ever did Enjoy that Celtic Y-DNA. Coombrogichads stay winning.
>>18459442>Eventually it became a satrap of the Scots but seems to have held quasi independence into the 11th century.This is what confuses me. It feels like there are some lost decades between an independent Strathclyde and that area coming under the Scots.What were the Cumbrians doing at this time? Were they fighting the Scots, marrying into them, or just giving up? Some of the last Cumbrian kings had Gaelic names, then they switched back. There's also a bit of evidence that the son of the last Cumbrian king assassinated the king of Alba and took his throne for a time. But they were both named Mael Colium, I think. The annexation process seems very hazy.
Why were Saxons so much stronger than Scotcucks? More Scandi DNA?
