>>18459776
Traditional Catholicism is the saddest thing ever, because it really does represent a time in which European Christianity took itself seriously as a pillar of society.

>>18459776
Don't read the Bible on your own, goy. Instead, just copy the language of the Bible readers and itemize and monetize Greek words and embarass yourself online, goy.

>>18459781
>read the Bible on your own
>come up with shit like prosperity gospel and Jesus camp
Nah. You're too retarded to be trusted with your own soul.

>>18459776
>worship me
words he never said, because that isn't how he proposed for his people to have salvation

>>18459839
Luke 24:52

>>18459826
>prosperity gospel
what's wrong with bringing theosis to the masses?

>>18459776
Not all Tridentards are Sedes, don't be mean. Anyway I find Catholic Schismatics to be really interesting, there are so many of them but they are all obscure. We should have a thread about them.

>>18459826
>prosperity gospel
This is true. It's not that individuals won't undergo hardship. But Christianity is unquestionably extremely good at a societal level for your economy. It is what elevated us out of the iron age the world was stuck at.

>and Jesus camp
? I went to a Christian summer camp as a kid, it was fun. Played games swam ate nice food. Even if it's not your particular cup of tea I thought it was fun.

Catholics have plenty of summer camps too you know

>>18459995
>We should have a thread about them.
That's a great idea, I'm only familiar with the lolcows like Palmarians and the VaticanCatholic guys.

>>18460623
Don't the Dimond brothers literally in some cuck shed in the middle of nowhere?

>>18460561
Christianity is a non-economic religion. Christian systems have nothing to do with the teachings of Christ, who didn't give a flying fuck about money.

>>18460629
It is definitely an economic religion. Jesus talks about interest rates, property valuation, tax codes, and so many other relevant things. He was without a doubt a financier on Vicus Murus at one point in his life.

>>18460636
Luke 12:15-21
Matthew 6:24
Matthew 19:21-24

>>18460636
Matthew 25 isn't about money. Interpreting parable at face value is folly.

>>18460637
Never read those verses before. Wow. So he's serious?

So what? Jesus spoke to Pontus Pilate in Latin.

>>18460638
>Taking Jesus seriously is folly
Sounds like you're letting your heart give you your own interpretation of his words

>>18460639
It is as you say.

>>18460641
Taking Jesus at face value when he directly admitted to speaking in metaphor to his gentile followers because they wouldn't understand direct moral explanations about excess and ego, yes that is folly. I take Jesus seriously. You lazily interpret His words to dishonestly excuse your accountability, which you will face regardless of your assumed freedom.

>>18460642
I don't know though, a lot of what he's saying was actually strategically clever back then. Giving away your wealth and dumping it in a "church" was a way of avoiding taxes. Making money your master is more about missing the point of wealth, which is the ability to enjoy life and have good things. Note that he says an "abundance of possessions" and not possessions. He just means that once you have your fill you shouldn't load yourself down with much. In my opinion, he's a great Cynic.

>>18460646
You do not love God.

>>18460645
The hostility you're showing tells me you're someone full of resentment and bitterness. Jesus condemns that. I think you want to be wealthy yourself and simply don't have the means, so you say that Jesus condemns having good things. He does not. In the story he drinks and eats, wears expensive perfumes, wears finely made clothing, owns a large boat that he uses to relax on the Galilee with his friend.

>>18460647
You love money and paint it as loving God that you're a loser. If God thought that you'd be of great use with money, you'd have it, would you not? And yet he knows that in your heart is an incredible lust for money and the power it provides. Why do you act with such seething anger at the rich? Do you think it will save you from the condemnation of your own heart?

>>18460651
I directly dismiss money. Why do you have to lie in favor of money by projecting your opinion onto me? I am the one saying "Jesus despised money." Jesus openly taught against the use of money as trade, as it lead to excess and hate. You believe yourself above me for your economics, and have to twist the Word of God to hand-wave away your fear of judgment.

>>18460649
If the truth is hostile, then you are believe in a lie. I love God.

>>18460668
Judgment for what? Do you give your money to the poor? Great, I give more! You "dismiss" money because you can't have it, you suffer from sour grapes syndrome. You hate that you cannot have the God-given luxuries of this life and be saved. The advice of Jesus is all about how to accumulate, but justly, and not to be swallowed up by it. But as I showed you, he actually enjoyed himself quite a bit with his funds. It's why his girlfriend even showed up in the first place with the expensive perfume he bought her to honor him.

>>18460669
I am not believing a lie. You think that your lack is out of pious devotion rather than the inability to seize opportunities, and you call it obedience to God rather than failure. And yet Jesus condemns those who do not at least invest his wealth at interest, if they cannot, as you seem not to be capable, double or triple or increase the value of his investment tenfold.

>>18460672
>>18460673
You poor little demons and your excess of words.

>>18460674
You poor little man and your lack of blessings.