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What is the purpose of God sending people to Hell to suffer for eternity for not believing in him in the correct way? What goal is it supposed to accomplish?
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>>18460143
Who fucking cares dude?
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>>18460143
The purpose is to destroy freedom completely. Total obedience must be enforced at all costs.
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>>18460143
God does not send people to Hell. You send yourselves to Hell by living like degenerates and murdering children via abortion, and refusing His mercy, even at the moment of your death.
In Heaven, you will forever be with God. For a leftist heathen, Heaven would be like Hell.
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>>18460143
Chriskikes will just make up some cope, like how it's not god sending you to hell its yourself doing it. Or they just accuse you of doing all sorts of other things without evidence and claim that that's why you're in hell and it's justified that way. Right now e-caths and e-protties favourite accusations are calling you a tranny groomer and pedophile if you say you don't believe in god.
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>>18460147
This. So tired of it all. OP needs to move out of his mother's house and get a job.
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>>18460152
The Bible says God sends people to Hell. Why would God create Hell?
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>>18460162
This close to going and asking /po/ if we could please borrow space for 1 general where we actually discuss history.
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>>18460190
Demons created Hell, not God. Imagine being lectured by atheists/larpagans about your Holy Book.
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>>18460191
I enjoy philosophy and theology but I become more invested in history overall the closer I inching to the big 5-0. Yes, I'm old. We post here too.
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>>18460199
No, they didn't.
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>>18460199
>atheists
>pagans
Pick one, actual atheists also reject paganism like you
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>>18460143
I used to think that religious people were retarded because they don't challenge their beliefs when reality shows them to be retarded and wrong..
But I used to be influenced by the incel rhetoric because of how much the internet milieu permeated my life... They act like religions, the produce rationalist arguments that internally seem sound, to retroactively justify their beliefs, they cherrypick data that show women are whores and cruel and hypergamy this and whatnot... But in my immediate life I had absolutely no evidence of it even the contrary, which puts you in a mindset of cognitive dissonance where everyone seems part of this conspiracy to hide the truth that sounds so obvious...
I stopped believing in it when I applied a general ethic of bayesian rationality, of challenging every belief and not shaming myself for admitting my wrongs.

There might be different more effective methods to convince religious people of their errors, but its very complicated. I don't think arguing works as much as we think. We are not rational beings, the methods and papers we write are, but inside of us is some complex chemically-bound stochastic parrot that likes to spew nonsense just because it sounds good.
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>>18460143
>What is the purpose of physics, always hurting people for touching a hot stove?Can't I just not believe in physics and make the heat go away? What goal is it supposed to accomplish to feel pain whenever I ignore physics and just do random nonsense?
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>>18460143
Luke 16:28-29, homework do, next, hint if you reply correctly
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>>18460332
Its not just a matter of reason. Thats why argument doesnt always work the same in different people.

There are three things we need to actualize.

Knowledge.
Motivation
Ability.

Argument and science is knowledge, and knowledge is the code that can build an atomic bomb.

Motivation is the choice to blow things up, or create cheap energy.

"Faith" is the persuasion that motivates. Its not based on solely on code, as if you just need the correct formula or law, and everything will work in some predetermined and robotic way .

It requires feelings, and context, and choice.

If someone is motivated to blow things up, you need to understand why they "feel" motivated to do such a thing, otherwise the code of your argument might not apply to their motivation.

Your argument might be valid, but the soundness of your argument will be judged by how they feel about your premises.
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>>18460336
What a retarded response. No one demands that physics must align with human values.
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>>18460332
Religion is about motivation, not just knowledge.

Thats why you can't simply "know" good and evil. If you think you can simply know it, you're going to fall victim to the 5 monkey experiment, and your culture will seperate itself from good judgement.
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>>18460370
>What a retarded response. No one demands that God must align with human values.

Post modernism is exactly this. It's the idea that objective truth must conform to the mold of an individuals created/subjective truth.

"Not my objective truth be done, but my subjective truth be done."

However, better advice is for us to conform/align our subjective truth to the laws of objective truth, or we will suffer, because of our denial of reality.

All separations from objective truth can be corrected, as you can simply pull your hand away from the stove. This is called repentance.

The only separation from objective truth that can not be corrected, as the very idea that you are not able to change your mind and repent.

Eternal hell is cause by a stubborn heart refusing to pull their hand away from the stove. Its thebobly sin that is not forgiven.

"Sin" means, "separation from objective truth and good judgment".
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The reason objective truth and good judgment is personified, is because motivation is part of persuasion. In order to fully motivate people, we must include choice and feelings into the argument/logos.

That is why God is not called "IT".

God is a "He", because the superior logical framwork include the concept of motivation, not just an unfeeling code of scientific "knowledge".
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If you think you can just "know" good and evil, you will surely die. Because life, is what motivates us.
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>>18460413
Jews are not just some ethnic group of people.

The word jew describes the "knowers".
The "lawyers".

The coders.

Salvation is by the jews means, "choices are saved by coders".

However, Jesus Christ is the annoined salvation of God. He is the actual choice that the code is pointing us to.
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>>18460143
>God gives you eternal life as punishment to suffer forever
thats not what the bible teaches. there are those that receive eternal life with God, and there is the second death of the soul. not eternal punishment.



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