Is actually one of the most idiotic arguments. It applies finite conditions onto an eternal, omnipresent and omniscient entity. We humans only “care” about things because we are finite and contingent. We don’t have forever. We only have a limited conscious bandwidth, and can only hold attention on a few things at once. Thus we must ration our attention and interest. We must subconsciously form a value hierarchy on which to “care” about things since our time and cognition is limited and precious. God has no such limitations. He has eternity and js everywhere. As the ground of all being, there can be nowhere that does not have his presence. Why would God create this entire existence for us and not care about the two most fundamental human problems, evil and death? Saying lines such as God would care about humanity as much as you care about ants shows you haven’t conceptualised the divine as anything more than a scaled up human mind.
>God doesn't experience time or space the same way humans do but he's still personal enough to care about humans in a way that's meaningful to humansThis is some insanely wishful thinking and mental gymnastics you go there bud.
>>18460971Why would this be incoherent? Why do you assume that such a being would be incapable of relating to conscious 3D lifeforms (which he designed), in his creation? Do you see my point. God has no lack of time. He is not distant but everywhere that existence is. The constraints that cause you to “not care” about something do not exists for him.
>>18460974I'm saying it wouldn't be meaningful to us. If God experiences everything at once all the time then you just reduced him down to a non-personal pantheistic force. Even if he could express his love for us, it wouldn't be meaningful, it would just be how we interpret it. From God's perspective all humans are completely immortal already and there are no stakes or consequences in the universe because God can just take refuge in the past and the future at the same time
The biblical character isnt a real god. The god of the bible is a fairytale.
>>18460987Not really. We are clearly not God. We are not mere emenations of him like some pantheists say. God truly is omnipresent and eternal, every Christian church has agreed on this. He is the source of being itself. Gods love itself is shown in creation. Your existence is an act of love from God, your salvation an act of mercy. Explain what you mean further
the universe is god's toilet
>>18460995Goddess' toilet*
>>18460992>Explain what you mean furtherNo because you're going to handwave everything I say instead of taking it seriously with some generic apologetic nonesense. You aren't even here in good faith>God loves us because the Church told me he loves meThat's your argument. And we've already been through why an all-loving God doesn't even make sense within the context of the very universe he created. The Old Testament God was no all-loving because he was personal. The Ancient Judeans have a better understanding of God than you do.
>>18460992Just regurgitating a bunch of nonsense isn't an actual argument. Every christian church is wrong because christianity is not true.
>>18461000No I’m genuinely trying to understand your point. I don’t see how God being eternal and omnipresent makes his love meaningless or a personal relation nonsensical
>>18461004It's not that hard to understand why God cannot have a meaningful relationship with his creations when there are no consequences to Gods actions. To God we're already immortal, the universe itself is immortal. He doesn't experience time like we do, so he's interacted with us for an eternity and then some. God in your scenario can project love for his creations but it's not meaningful. Your concept of love is extremely superficial.
>>18460963The bible says the earth is flat with a dome. It's not the word of God.
>>18461006What would constitute meaningful love for you
>>18460963its because they think we are objectevly are worthelss because of our lack of scale.its only because of our subjectivity that we can pretend to have worth.since god is objective and all knowing he would have to not really care for us.
>>18460963>why would God care about us?Why do animals care about their offspring?Because they consider their offspring part of themselves.You are one with God. The difference between you and Isa is that Isa figured this out while you are still struggling to know the truth.
>>18460963>Why would God care about us?Ok, if you think this god does care, then She is trivially falsified by the existence of suffering.
>>18460963I and the father are one.
>>18461811>sufferingOne day the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and privation also came with them. The Lord said about the privation, “Where did this shit come from?"
