Will zoomer clergy 40 years from now bring back TLM?
We can hope so. It is likely it is going to make a comeback. Probably not to the pre Vatican 2 scale but certainly more so than it is today. The reason is that Catholicism is no longer culturally mandatory. Even in its historical countries. Therefore the young people that are Catholic, including converts, are there because they want to be there. Because they’ve made the decision to. Those type of people want the full thing, the full rite in its traditional form. Personally I think switching to the Novus Ordo for most parishes has done more damage than good and think the TLM should be encouraged more. Leo is certainly more lenient on it than Francis was.
Zoomer tradcaths 4 years from now will be openly gay atheists.
>>18460966Absolutely, and it is already happening right now.I currently go to a traditional Catholic church in Paris, and Zoomers are amazed by the beautiful traditions of the Church. It has changed a lot since the 2010s, and overall, Catholicism (especially in France) is making a real comeback. They also don’t care about the words they use. Relativist boomers are really scared.
>>18460966This Liturgy (and others in Kind to it) is an Idolatrous Act that blasphemes the Lord's Son incarnate; where countless sins take place unopposed. The Men who propagate this false worship have sinned as they have not followed the Lord's rules in Scripture on how he shall be worshiped (see. regulative principle of worship). The only Day the Lord set aside for celebration is the Lord's Day (Sabbath). The so-called "Evangelical feast Days" or the "Liturgical Calendar" are false expressions of Heathen worship for the Popish past; that must be extinguished with the Lord's full wrath.The Civil Magistrate has the duty to ban the public worship of false Religions as God commands in Scripture. The Civil Magistrate can ban the production, sale or ownership of any Cult item, Idol or Paraphernalia that is used in the expression of false Religion. Or the building of places that aid in the expression of false Religion; be it Synagogue, Mosque, Temple or false "Church". As the Lord punishes all in the Nation who allow the propagation of false Religion. But it should be known to all the Heathens that the Civil Magistrate does not have the right to ban private worship or prayer. As that would violate the conscience of Man.
>I WILL, MOST PROBABLY, BE CONFESSING MY SINS TO A Z00MER IN A FEW YEARS.
>>18460966Christianity is blasphemous heresy, so too are its siblings Judaism and Islam.
>>18461061So, what's the one true religion, then? Zoroastrianism? Greek paganism?
>>18460966>>18460969>>18460978The RCC is running out of priests because no one wants to sign up to be an incel and zoomers are all compulsive gooners so no
Since children aren't being brough up in religioud households anymore, the ones converting to catholicism will be a special bunch and going turn catholicism into even more insulated and culty than it already is.
>>18460966Each new papacy since that of Pope Paul VI has brought a shift in how we understand the relationship between the Extraordinary form and the Ordinary form of the mass. My expectation is that the current papacy will incorporate the perspectives of Pope St. John Paul II, Pope Benedict XVI, and Pope Francis into a more nuanced understanding.
>>18461028Supernaturally based post
>>18460966Two things 1. Liturgy is meant to be understood by the congregants. Latin has ceased to be a lingua franca for a thousand year. The occasional hymn or prayer is fine, but reading the Epistle in Latin like it's a magic language is a mistake. Rome should've granted autocephaly to the countries around it. Maybe the Reformation never would've happened.2. The past two Popes have been cracking down on TLM and have set their sights on Eastern Catholic services as well. They seemingly don't want anything trad around anymore. Good news, zoomers, you can get married and become clergy and have a reverent church service in the Eastern Orthodox church.
>>18461036>Zang, son. That's diabolical fr fr, but if you sorry and all, I absolve you, on God.
>>18462778The issue is that if you understand the mass, you will not be a catholic any more. Some has attributed this to have caused the falling Mass attendance, fewer priests, and shrinking membership.That's why there's a push for latin.
>>18460966No.The Zoomer Clergy are all having their ordinations stalled or being shuttled off to irrelevant parishes, hospital chapels or made to go see shut-ins and kept as far away from the vast mass of the laymen as possible.You need to grasp that the modern bishops will literally drag some guy from Sri Lanka to pastor a community in a part of Appalachia that is 100% White and Anglo before they will finally give the young kid who actually takes the religion seriously a posting in a real parish.The, "administration," let's call it because it's really a whole bunch of forces and individuals knows these guys exist. They're doing everything in their power to stop them from getting traction and they are winning, have been for decades.If these young guys are smart they'll defect for some group like the SSPX or CMRI ASAP. If they're supert smart they'll get the fuck out now while they still can and realize a Theology degree is a waste of time and money and just keep it as their own personal weird autistic hobby. Why? Because these RadTrad groups are not and never have been interested in a Culture War, the Retoration of Christendom or some other bullshit. They want to stay off the radar, keep their Mass and stay hidden and pretend the world isn't actively ending around them.
>>18461028Calvinism could be and was monstrously Based. I mean, they won the Wars of Religion in the end.But go deal with the modern Reformed world for a little while and you'll find nothing that you're expecting or wanting to be a part of.For a start most of their, "Church Discipline," amounts to a bunch of church biddies stalking your social media and tattle-tailing on each other.
>>184627781. Liturgics is fake and gay. Historically everything was just however bishops wanted it to be. The idea the rubrics have some kind of untouchable quality was always bullshit.2. The RadTrads will just continue leaving for the SSPX and the CMRI and other groups when they don't decide to Cringe-LARP+Cope with their R&R Nonsense.>begome ordodoxThat meme is older than you are, dumb zoomer. I was there in the original OrthoBro Wave, too - many of my good friends were as well. They have all either left Christianity entirely, become Eastern Catholic or have very much mellowed out in terms of what being Orthodox actually means to them.The EO in the West was always meant to be an ethnic enclave for people from traditionally Orthodox nations. They have never had any real interest in converting Westerners. They see the West, culturally, as an inferior and godless Hellscape which they plunder and exploit as an act of revenge for centuries of what they see as exploitation holding them back from their rightful place as masters of a new Roman Empire or something.They treat and see all Western converts like shit. The more of a try-hard you are the more cringe they believe you are. God help you if you try and become clergy.The Alt-Right in many ways was tied to this cultural phenomenon; all it turned out to be was the Right-Wing version of the Anglophone Manifestation of White Guilt. It's just a, "Based," ethno-masochism. If you are any kind of person with a spine it becomes intolerable eventually.