Post ITT to discuss the most underrated continents in historyAlso, to keep things interesting, here is a prompt for you anons, what is:>Your favorite Precolumbian culture>Your favorite or an interesting fact or bit of trivia about the Precolumbian Americas>A question you have about Precolumbian history or society or something you want to learn about>A reply to at least one other anon about their answers to the prompt
And I'll fill out the prompt first>The Aztec/Nahuas>That Mesoamerican feather mosaics existed, see pic. Used for the outside of warsuits, shields, helmets, certain garments, banners and models of animals etc, and for a variety of items in the early colonial period, mainly "paintings" with Catholic iconography, devotional objects, and even a Adarga shield with a feather mosaic fronting for Philip II>The development and geographic spread of the Step Fret motif in both Mesoamerica and the Andes
>>18461705The smallpox crap is fake.
>>18461691funny how this map entirely misses the most productive users of anthropogenic fire in the continent
>>18461760Where?
>>18461691Very few people know about the Tlaxcala Republic. It was very cool. I haven’t yet come across cross any other Native Republics in any recognizable style besides them. Super interesting stuff. They even had their own Senate.
>>18461691For me, it's the Caribs and Chichimecs.
Who's your favorite south American culture that is NOT the Inca. The Moche are pretty cool imo
>>18462362Have a more accurate image >I haven’t yet come across cross any other Native Republics in any recognizable style besides themTeotihuacan might have been a republic or a democracy, but the evidence is indirect and circumstantial. But it would make sense that if Tlaxcala was a republic then some other Mesoamerican states were as well
>>18462362You know about the Iroquois confederacy? They had a council of chiefs of the tribes forming the union and a lot of their decisions were made by a % consensus. No really a republic, but definitely a democracy with distributed power and even giving great importance to clan matriachs, who could veto decisions or remove chiefs from power.
>>18462472The Iroquois are super underrated, they even had a constitution which was cited by the founding fathers as their main inspiration for the American one
>mfw the Maya get a bit too uppitySiyaj Kʼakʼ, get my Atlatl
>>18462472I’ve heard a bit about it but haven’t gotten around to doing a deep dive yet. However, it seems like interesting stuff.
>>18462624>Teotihuacan wasn't an empire, they were just a huge super multicultural state that was overthrowing kings and installing puppet leaders all across known civilization and influencing art architecture and religion everywhereCome on man
>>18462362>>18462362>Tlaxcala Republic.was created by Roman refuges
>>18462362Were they the ones who didn't believe in human sacrifice?
>>18463018There's like a 700 year gap between the Roman Empire existing and Tlaxcala's foundingRemember, most of this shit is contemporaneous with medieval Europe not antiquity
>>18463089No. Virtually every single society in the region, especially Nahua Tezcatlipoca worshippers like the tlaxcaltecs, practiced human sacrifice.
>>18463227 fake chronology, take out 700 years like Gunnar say and it fit perfectly
>>18463231I can't find the passage but in either de Castillos book or Cortes' letters to the king Cortes saw the Tlaxcaltecs sacrificing people and he asked Xicotencatl to stop and they said no and that was that. It wasn't until much later they got them to stop. They really liked it
>>18463089No, the Tlaxcaltecs very much practiced human sacrifice, as did just about everybody else in the region. You might be thinking of Texcoco, the ruling family of which claimed in colonial times that their founding father, Nezahualcoyotl, was a wise philosopher king who personally disapproved of human sacrifice (though not enough to actually ban it) and worshipped an abstract god of everything. Most scholars agree that this was likely just an invention made in an attempt to gain Spanish favor though, as Nezahualcoyotl is portrayed as a regular human sacrificing Mesoamerican king in every other city-state's records and who was in fact a loyal subject of Tenochtitlan that even willingly adopted the Huitzilopochtli cult, and the unknown god they clamed he worshipped was clearly meant to be interpreted as the christian God. So really, no Mesoamerican state fits that description in reality
>>18462715>i m not biased
>>18461691Why Brazilian tribes are never mentioned in these conversations?
>>18463965The Andeans and Mesoamericans had the most cool megastructures and giant cities, and megastructures and giant cities are really cool. It would be nice if other native american groups got some discussion here but this place is absolutely flooded with racist trolls, even discussing the "most civilized" natives is hard to do without these assholes trying to derail everything because they consider the mere existence of nonwhite people a personal insult to them
>>18463965They are not as flashy as the incas and the aztecs but they are still pretty coolIf you believe in certain histories the Goitacaz used to hunt sharks by puting a piece of wood in their mouths so that they couldn't bite them (also they did that so that they could use the shark teeth as arrowheads)
>>18463965like the north american natives excepting the mississippians they didn't leave any earthworks or stonework i'm sure tupian literature is interesting though
>>18464327>like the north american natives excepting the mississippians they didn't leave any earthworks or stoneworkHey now, don't forget about the southwesterners. They were pretty sophisticated, they just got completely fucked by apocalyptic weather conditions before Europeans arrived, then fucked again by diseases and Spanish raids, then lots of their villages ended up having the Spanish move into them and eventually build over the original buildings.
>>18463965because we don't want macacos shitting up our threads. don't you have some uma delicia to cook, Joao?
>>18464442Not that anon but I'm white and i'd like to learn about and discuss Brazilian tribes
