Euro hg were peak caucasoid core
>>18462500No, just extremely inbred and dysgenic, similar to Papuans. They were low IQ dark skinned manlets.
>>18462508Meme reconstructions. Natufians are being depicted as literal n*ggers. WHG is the most divergent West Eurasian lineage from Papuans.
>>18462522Because they were inbred retards like them. Papuans are the most distant from groids. And we know both of them are just inbred versions of Kostenki and Tianyuan, so both are niggers in disguise.
>>18462508the world has moved on from your meme reconstruction.in short, you lostbtfo by twitter hobbyists, lmao
>>18462531Papuans have ~5% Denisovan admixture which Kostenki and WHG have ZERO of.
>>18462500yes, they were also the first ever proper caucasoids and the pinnacle of west eurasianness
>>18462553Yeah, but that's beyond the point. Both of them are known to descend from lanky negroids. Kostenki was a lanky tropical-adapted negro.Also, I can easily destroy OP's point with pic related.
>>18462571>Both of them are known to descend from lanky negroids. all west eurasians are largely of kostenki derivation >>18462531 that's a retarded point, and kostenki wasn't a negroideuro hgs had nothing to do with "negroids" they were the top west eurasiansyour pic clearly suggest that latvians are hyper west eurasians
>>18462500yes, natufians were similar to papuans while euro hgs looked like robust caucasoid faelids
>>18462577>your pic clearly suggest that latvians are hyper west eurasiansThey're only slightly more distant from negroes than Sardinians and much closer to Asians than them. Also, I have yet to hear someone explain the Uralic nigger shift.
>>18462582>They're only slightly more distant from negroes than Sardinians and much closer to Asians than them. being distant from negros is more important because negros are not eurasian at all, overall sardinians are basically negroids compared to the latvians>Also, I have yet to hear someone explain the Uralic nigger shift.irrelevant to euro hgs, ask someone else
>>18462582>The more Northeast shifted European population are still less Mongoloid shifted than heavy basal populations
>>18462632Muds have Turkic admixture. You should know this. Sardinians are the best example of Basal without extra Asian or African admixture. The Euro Asian admixture is also on different cline. It's Amerindian/Siberian-like, not East Asian.
>>18462645>Muds have Turkic admixture.they don't>Sardinians are the best example of Basal without extra Asian or African admixture.they're the absolute worst example, not even close, the best example of basal admixture are south iranians or saudis, sardinians are completely irrelevant
>>18462645Sardinians carry about 12% WHG ancestry.
the non turkic admixed, high basal balochi seem to be more similar to east eurasians than the latvians are
>>18462659Balochi have a chunk of AASI and that's east eurasian
>>18462647>the best example of basal admixture are south iranians or saudis, sardinians are completely irrelevantIt's technically Iran_UP, but that also has a ton of the undrifted ANE (Yana). And Natufians were mixed with IBM, so they're naturally going to be close to Africans compared to ANF/Dzudzuana. >>18462663And undrifted ANE.
>>18462663they have a very little aasi component, no one is 100% west eurasian or basal eurasian, but according to lazaridis basal is maximized in iranian neolithic and this ancestry is maximized in balochis
>>18462659Jews are also closer to Chang than Northeast shifted Euros are.
>>18462669>ANF/Dzudzuanacompletely different populations, anf doesn't even have remotely the amount of basal that iranian neolithic admixed populations have
>>18462669now put turkmens in there
>>18462671basal negroid ancestry causes this
>>18462674It's worse
>>18462669yana, that is not "undrifted ane" is not an asian component, the similarities are simply because of west eurasian ancestry in common
>>18462684It's 65% Kostenki-Sunghir and 35% Tianyuan-Hoabinhian. And has y-dna from the latter group. The Balochi version was probably jeet-looking while Euros got it from cold-adapted EHG mongs: >>18462531
What accounts for this?
>>18462684>>18462689>>18462692KARA BOGA
>>18462692basals were negroids
>>18462689the similarities are because of west eurasian ancestry in common, not because of particular relations with the yanabalochis and iranians in general is where the most basal admixed ancestry is maximized by far, you see that even in your chart, although it's full of zeros and inferior to the vallini et al 2024 that shows real basal ancestry, that iran_10000bp_8500bp is half basal, while boncuklu is a quarter basalof course, while still maximized around those components, in reality the basal ancestry is lower in both, since the vallini et al 2024 is the only credible study on basal that doesn't rely on outdated lazaridis assumptions, in reality europeans are 1 to 3% basal
>>18462704funny that in both cases you have basals being some sort of brown shitter, lazaridis thinks basal is some balochi looking south asian jeet mongrel while vallini thinks basal is a quasi negroidin both cases the euro hgs come out on top, as the most caucasoid looking and most caucasoid genetically
>>18462698>>18462695Basal Eurasians were the original Honorary Kangz and Changz
>>18462710euro hgs were robust caucasoidsbasals were quasi negroid cucks
>>18462704>since the vallini et al 2024 is the only credible study on basal that doesn't rely on outdated lazaridis assumptions, in reality europeans are 1 to 3% basalNope, Vallini uses alleles of modern populations as proxies. It doesn't prove/disprove anything. Allentoft is a much better and more in-depth study about it.
>>18462721no, researchers have concluded that it was the best methodology given the current data, allentoft runs on assumptions as evidenced by the constant Zero-length branchesimputation with proxies > literally inventing things
>>18462718How do Basal-shifted populations manage to be both Mongoloid and Negroid shifted simultaneously>>18462692
>>18462729it's because the euro hg is the actual west eurasian extremity, lack of such admixture results in a sample appearing more mongoloid and negroid than samples with euro hg ancestry
>>18462738Baltoids aren't very good examples of caucasoid phenotype though. They have massive round pig heads.
>>18462743 Basques are the whitest Meds because they are 1/3 Euro HG.
>>18462743Your Natufian, sir.
>>18462752And it makes them look like Shrek just like Baltoids. Let's ignore that the nazis glorified Hallstatt which is the complete opposite of what they look like (and derived from GAC).
>>18462755mazis glorified the tronder phenotype (between faelid and hallstatt) not the hallstatt, look at all nazi posters, the figures are too robust to be hallstatt, the browridges are too low set and prominent, the chins are too strong and wide
>>18462743>Baltoids aren't very good examples of caucasoid phenotype They look like regular white people.
>>18462754basalbvll
>>18462755basques just look like southern europeans without MENA ancestry
>>18462755Everyone knows that the Basques are the whitest-looking Iberians.
>>18462762Many would easily blend in with this population
>>184627571) That's still not the Baltshit phenotype which they generally disliked2) They chose a half-Jewish man as "the ideal Aryan" for some reason
>>18462779>1) That's still not the Baltshit phenotype which they generally dislikedthe nazis admired robust features, hallstatt were seldom represented. it was all faelids, tronders and other robust phenotypes present in the baltic countries too>2) They chose a half-Jewish man as "the ideal Aryan" for some reasonso french-like... and he was one out of 1000s models
>>18462762>southern europeans without MENA ancestryMy favorite phenotype is the depigmented South European type
>>18462788They placed 'Nordics' at the top of the racial hierarchy and that was often synonymous with the Hallstatt Nordid pheno. Here they make the distinction between "Nordic race" and "Faelid race" even.
>>18462779That's a very common phenotype among Balts
>>18462803>They placed 'Nordics' at the top of the racial hierarchy and that was often synonymous with the Hallstatt Nordid pheno.to you maybe not to them, the concept of hallstatt nordic didn't even exist among german athropologists
>>18462802too weak, too farmergroid stillthe hunters are at the top of the food chain
>>18462818When I think of Faelids, I think of pale Papuans like Oliver Kahn. There has never been a scientist, philosopher, artist, etc with this pheno btw. Baltoids are also extremely unaccomplished and irrelevant. A testament to the inherent inferiority of the low IQ WHG manlet.
>>18462819Everyone should promote their own aesthetic ideal based on their phenotype. For me, the West Med phenotype is absolute peak
>>18462824Trump and Putin both have phenotypes that are heavily HG-derived
>>18462824>I think of pale Papuans like Oliver Kahn.oliver khan is a robust caucasoid>There has never been a scientist, philosopher, artist, etc with this pheno btw.you are wrong, plenty of scientists were robust types, tronders, faelids and tydals(paleo atlantids) in northern europe, other robust types in the rest of the world + your women flock to robust types doesn't matter how much you whine and cry about it + robust types dominate you athleticallyeven outside northern europe robustoids always win, while graciloids turn into troons and cucks>A testament to the inherent inferiority of the low IQ WHG manlet.euro hgs were taller than farmers
>>18462836he's delusional, plenty of hg derived man dominate the world right now
>>18462839>you are wrong, plenty of scientists were robust types, tronders, faelids and tydals(paleo atlantids) in northern europeLies. Robustoids are literally non-existent in intellectual fields. And that's for a good reason; being robust means you're closer to dumb apes. Pic related: gracile Swedish scientist holding a robustoid skull. >but wahmen like itIt's been proven they don't select for intelligence.
>>18462849>Lies. Robustoids are literally non-existent in intellectual fields.>source: i made that upyour king was a robust conqueror that descended from other robust conquerors, your scientist was a robust cold and calculating man, the only fields graciloids excel besides cross dressing and masturbating to cuck porn on reddit are the fields of the arts and other female coded pursuits>It's been proven they don't select for intelligence.women don't care about intelligence one way or the other, but they don't select against it either, they want a man ,not you, and if robustoids weren't intelligence the human race would have been much dumber now, since graciloids seldom reproduce
>>18462855Show me (one) robustoid 'intellectual' and prove me wrong then. The closest thing that comes to mind is Magnus Carlsen, but he's just a babyfaced strandid mong and not a faelid ape like Oliver Kahn: >>18462824
>>18462870>Show me (one) robustoid 'intellectual' and prove me wrong thenisaac newton is something inbetween the tronder and the brunn, with a wide strong chin and prominent browridge, i will only play this game once btw, i won't post thousands of pictures of individual scientistsgraciloids = excel in female and trans coded hobbies like cross dressing, joining NGOs, helping migrantsrobustoids = excel in male coded hobbies, including cold hard science, fighting, athletics, being CEOs
>>18462876>Newton >robustLmao what. He just had a chin dimple. That's something women can have it as well. Died a virgin too. Yeah, what a 'Chad' this guy was. Fucking retard. There are no 'jock' looking intellectuals.
>"this guy looks like he could be a scientist, philosopher, artist, inventor"Said nobody ever.
>>18462882he was robust, your pic is fat and is from the 1700s when he was old and hides the robustnessmore reasons why i don't want to play this fruitless game, i won't argue further about isaac newtonthe hard sciences are dominated by robust types, as they're colder and more calculating while graciloids are prone to hysterical, emotional female-like behavior robust types also dominate any manner of athletic pursuit, any type of warrior caste or class is also filled with robust types, sex symbols are robust types, any sort of pursuit that requires a daring personality such as explorers and pioneers is also dominated by robust types, founders of dynasties or companies in the modern day are robust types, these companies or dynasties eventually falling off when the leadership is replaced by graciloidsgracile types dominate among the simp class, the troons, the cucks, the gaysfunny that you don't even deny all of this, you just decided to focus on the science as it is the most vague category and it's easier to lie and pretend the female brained graciloids dominate when it's not even remotely the case
>>18462894tl;dr all you could find was a dude with a cleft chin (just a malfusion of the jaw, nothing to do with being robust). Try to find anyone that resembles Brock Lesnar, I dare you: >>18462887It's over. WHGroids were low IQ retards and anyone who selected for their phenotype also is. Give up.
>>18462901>tl;dr all you could find was a dude with a cleft chin (just a malfusion of the jaw, nothing to do with being robust).the chin is wide and strong, the cleft is irrelevant and i never mentioned it, he was robust, end of the argumentyour pic is irrelevant and doesn't prove anything btw, you need to find the difference between wggs and their contemporaries ahgs, it's obvious that neolithic populations would be more mentally developed, if the anf didn't send their women to get fucked by euro hg men while anf men watch the euro hg would have become more intelligent on their own
>>18462905>9000+ years 'dominating' Europe>couldn't invent farming>couldn't invent pastoralism>couldn't invent pottery>couldn't invent metallurgy>all things which Sub-Saharan Africans accomplishedYeah sorry. They were subhuman, Timmy. Zero accomplishments beyond having extreme genetic drift from being inbred like Papuans.
>>18462915>9000+ years 'dominating' Europemore than that, even when the farmers arrived, they enjoyed farmer women, as the ydna of the times confirm, they never stopped dominating in the neolithic>couldn't invent pastoralismpastoralism is something that humans figured out later in the middle neolithic>couldn't invent potterythere's no such thing as "anf pottery" you actual idiot>couldn't invent metallurgythere's no such thing as "anf metallurgy" idiot, that's why they're called anatolian NEOLITHIC farmers and not anatolian BRONZE age farmers>all things which Sub-Saharan Africans accomplishednot in 9000 BCE
>>18462918>more than that, even when the farmers arrived, they enjoyed farmer womenThat's North Cuckropean history. It didn't happen in Greece or Italy. Coincidentally those were the only regions that developed civilization. >there's no such thing as "anf metallurgy" idiotHey retard, what was the axe Otzi was using made of again?
>>18462918also look up Ertebølle pottery, hgs actually invented pottery in the north, they would have done the same in the south of europe if they weren't swarmed by anf bunnies
>>18462870Nothing neotenous about him, he looks paleo. The classic handsome guy is more neotenous.
>>18462925>That's North Cuckropean history. It didn't happen in Greece or Italy. Coincidentally those were the only regions that developed civilization. it happened everyone including iberia, the balkans and sicily>Hey retard, what was the axe Otzi was using made of again?otzi was from 3100 BCE
>>18462935he's right, he's not gracile but somewhat neotenous/alpinizedthe classic handsome guy is robust
>>18462929Over a robustoid gorilla nigga like this? Yes he does.
>>18462945he actually doesn't
>>18462945we have already established that on average scientists are robust, as they need to be cold and male brained to do their job, why do you never talk about anything else? did you completely concede the points: graciloids are more gay/cuck/troons/unathelic/unsuccessful with women/inept at war?
>>18462950The only place of robustoids in today's society is as retards getting brain damage inside metal cages for people's entertainment. This is where hunterjeet phenos are the most frequent. The world left these cavemen thousands of years ago, but they still continue their stupidity. We have guns. Big muscles and tall height are a hindrance on the battlefield.
>>18462969>The only place of robustoids in today's society is as retards getting brain damage inside metal cages for people's entertainment. This is where hunterjeet phenos are the most frequent. The world left these cavemen thousands of years ago, but they still continue their stupidity. We have guns. Big muscles and tall height are a hindrance on the battlefield.you forgot actors, models, soldiers, ceos, presidents, scientists... everything ever remotely important or cool or that has anything to do with appearancethe only places a graciloid troon dominate are pride parades, a truly outdated relic of the side effects of mass farming that will eventually be replaced by robustoids once genetic engineering becomes common and everyone chooses to look like a tall robust terachad and not like a gracile cuck
>>18462981>actors, models, soldiers, ceos, presidentsCompletely worthless to society just like MMA fighters. The aristocrats of old were also typically gracile. Robustoid leaders are degenerates who lead their nations to ruin.>scientistst. has yet to post any robust one>once genetic engineering becomes common and everyone chooses to look like a tall robust terachad and not like a gracile cuckYou realize that would mean the women would look like manjawed freaks too, retard? No thanks. We all know what German 'women' look like. Luckily it's the Chinese that are going to rise this century and they have less warped beauty standards than Germutt feminists.
>>18462993>Completely worthless to society just like MMA fighters.those people fight wars and reproduce and hence are more worthy than the typical useless gracile eunuch too busy inserting phallic objects in his asshole than doing anything even remotely productive>The aristocrats of old were also typically gracile.nope, aristocrats descended from robust conquerors and were usually more robust, taller and heavier boned than the peasants>t. has yet to post any robust onealready posted newton that was robust>You realize that would mean the women would look like manjawed freaks too, retard? No thanks. We all know what German 'women' look like. Luckily it's the Chinese that are going to rise this century and they have less warped beauty standards than Germutt feminists.it would not mean that, as the most attractive women are usually moderately robust, the chinese think the same and chinese men also want to be tall robust gigachangs
>>18462997>it would not mean that, as the most attractive women are usually moderately robustThey are not. You have low test if you think that: https://www()psychologytoday()com/us/blog/attraction-evolved/201612/how-testosterone-affects-what-men-find-attractive>Research has suggested that men with naturally high levels of testosterone are more drawn to women with typically feminine faces: women with smaller jaws, bigger eyes, and higher eyebrows.It's only Anglo-Germanic trannies that think otherwise because they live in a feminist dystopia where women do the (dysgenic) sexual selection that is already having devastating effects and ruining their society.
>>18463005>They are not. You have low test if you think thatnope, i'm right the most eugenic and attractive women are moderately robust, while hyperneotonous women are dysgenic trash, this is a factual objective statement, a tiny chinless woman will create a tiny chinless son, this is a logical conclusion, try to counter that instead of going into tangents>https://www()psychologytoday()com/us/blog/attraction-evolved/201612/how-testosterone-affects-what-men-find-attractivethe sample size is 24, and we should see what they're comparing, it seems they are comparing average vs extremely robust, so useless trash>It's only Anglo-Germanic trannies that think otherwise because they live in a feminist dystopia where women do the (dysgenic) sexual selection that is already having devastating effects and ruining their society.absolutely irrelevant to the argument, the sole reason women have power in northern europe is because the same reason it's the same in southern europe, farmer genesgoing back to the argument, in the future all men will be robust tall gigachads by choice since not a single human heterosexual male wants to be a gracile cuck
>>18463017>>18463005ah btw i was right, i opened the study, this seems to be the woman they were given to state their preferencethe pic on the right is the "feminized" version, not even the actual original image of the woman and she's already quite robust, so basically useless trash as they're comparing robust vs extremely robust
>>18463026*the pic on the left
>>18463017>in the future all men will be robust tall gigachads by choice since not a single human heterosexual male wants to be a gracile cuckObsessing over men's looks is homosexual behavior, looksmaxxing tranny. You're only forced to be that way because you're castrated by feminists. I am against robustoid subhumans from a purely scientific standpoint because we have been selecting for gracility/neoteny through all of human evolutuon, so why should it be different now?
>>18463037>Obsessing over men's looks is homosexual behavior, looksmaxxing tranny. You're only forced to be that way because you're castrated by feminists. not really, this is simply the truth, a lot of men are simply realizing it, and in fact gracilized troons are the simps that defend women and the feminists, you don't even deny it because you know it's the truth, you average basedboy cuck on reddit that doxxes your address for calling a girl a whore is a gracile cuck>I am against robustoid subhumans from a purely scientific standpoint because we have been selecting for gracility/neoteny through all of human evolutuon, so why should it be different now?not true, gracility and neotony only started to really take hold when farming was invented, euro hgs were very robust, in fact even more robust than some previous hgs, like the aurignacians, that's why some more gracile whgs like the come capelle were called proto mediterranid or aurignacoidalso what is your end game? extremely unbridled neotony and gracility so everyone looks like a giant eyed alien? pic rel is the end result of your mentalityyour against robust men because they mogged you your entire life, they took your girlfriend, all the women you've ever seen wanted to have sex with them, they completely dominated you in any athletic pursuit to the point that you gave up, you turn on the tv and the hero protagonist has a robust hg derived phenotype, you go to work and you CEO is a low risk aversion robustoid
>>18463061Fucking moron. This is what was in Europe before the "Cro-Magnons". I'll give it to you that the WHGs somewhat resembled them superficially though, which is why they were stupid subhumans who didn't accomplish anything.
>>18463071>Fucking moron. This is what was in Europe before the "Cro-Magnons".that's not a human being>I'll give it to you that the WHGs somewhat resembled them superficially thoughcompletely different craniometry, the neanderthals were outside the human rangeand as always none of my points were answereddo you admit that the basedboy cuckolds that defend the feminists are gracile troons?it the pic i posted (absolute neotony and gracility your ideal human >>18463061?do you admit being a low t cuck with gracile features?
>>18463077The lines between sapiens and neanderthal are arbitrary. They are sometimes referred as a subspecies. And WHGs had low skull vaults, stocky manlet builds and broad cheekbones like them.>it the pic i posted (absolute neotony and gracility your ideal humanI don't care about what other men look like because I'm not a homo like you.
>>18463061That anime phenotype is typical of the beta male protagonist in anime. Attractive male characters are robust.
>>18463095>The lines between sapiens and neanderthal are arbitrary.they're not human, full stop, stop using the neanderthal to avoid any of my points>And WHGs had low skull vaults, stocky manlet builds and broad cheekbones like them.most euro HGs were talldo you admit that the basedboy cuckolds that defend the feminists are gracile troons? you forgot to answer this>I don't care about what other men look like because I'm not a homo like you.that's a nice way to avoid answering my question, but whether you care about mans looks is irrelevant to the question, this >>18463061 is the pinnacle of gracilization and neotonization, is that your ideal?do you admit being a seething low t cuck with gracile features?
The ideal man and woman are robust but progressive.
>>18463107>most euro HGs were tallNot WHG pygmies.
>>18463061aurignacians were thought to be proto mediterraneans due to craniometry, but it turned out not to be true when we looked at their genetics
>>18463109most euro hgs were tall, never talked about whgs specifically, yes the whgs in the extreme west seem to have been as tall as farmers (so short) while most were taller
>>18463118>>18463109also, again you didn't answer any of my questionsdo you admit that the cuckolds that defend the feminists are gracile troons? >I don't care about what other men look like because I'm not a homo like you.this >>18463061 is the pinnacle of gracilization and neotonization, is that your ideal human?do you admit being a seething low t cuck with gracile features?why are you even replying to me if you don't answer my questions? what are you even doing?see how i answered your question about height immediately without dragging the thread for 40 posts
>>18463126>is the pinnacle of gracilization and neotonization, is that your ideal human?It's just some kid you made with AI slop. Already said I don't care about what men look like. I want a future without manfaced Germutt dogs. German women are some of the ugliest in the world.
>>18463108even for woman a certain degree of robusticity is necessary, literally not a single top tier female is extremely gracile of neotonous, this is true for constantly seething anfmednegros too even if they deny it
>>18463135>It's just some kid you made with AI slop. Already said I don't care about what men look likeit's the pinnacle of neotony and gracility, i already told you his gender is irrelevant since we're talking about the human species as a whole, since you support unbridled selection for gracility and neotony that is the end result for both women and men, and therefore this is just an excuse not to answer my question, is that the ideal human to you yes or not, do you understand how a conversation works? you're supposed to answer my question toodo you admit that the cuckolds that defend the feminists are gracile troons? do you admit that gracile troons tend to be trannies and gays and cucks and feminists at higher rates than robust men? why do you refuse to even entertain this question?i made this argument as far back as this comment>>18462894>gracile types dominate among the simp class, the troons, the cucks, the gaysstill unaddressedwhy are you even speaking to me?> I want a future without manfaced Germutt dogs. German women are some of the ugliest in the world.those women are ugly because of many reasons, dishonest framing
bug eyed indian comedianthis is what the ANF looked like before mixing with the superior HGs that gave them robust caucasoid features
non-europeans can't pass 0.25 in this test
more low t gracile bugmen, this is what the anf looked like before being purified by the superior white HGs
extremely neotonized alpine bug with giant eyesthis face structure must have been common among the anfs before HG purification that made their eyes smaller and more human-like
>>18463154ancient caucasoid bvlls
>>18463154>all europeans including most southern europeans except southern italians and sicilians passahahahah
>>18463150>>18463158WHG sirs were shifted towards these saars.
>>18463167the cypriots also don't pass that threshold
>>18463168they were not, learn what pcas are and how they work saaar, how many times did you post this pca and got this reply? i don't think you understand how conversations with other human beings work, typical low trannyanswers for this btw?>>18463140
>>18463158>>18463150>>18463168craniometrically they look like average gracile anfs
>>18463180>cypriots>europeanspick one
>>18463180Cypriots are more continuous with Levant than peninsular Greece.
>>18463185i heard that peloponnese people are albanians, not sure if that's true
