What caused gypsy integration to be so different across Europe? Not talking about culture, since they act like locusts regardless of the place, but in terms of appearance they look quite different depending on the place. In the Balkans, Eastern and Central Europe they look essentially no different from a modern pajeet from South Asia and have little local admixture, in Continental Western Europe (Portugal, Spain, Italy, France, Germany) they look reasonably different from the locals but very different from the average modern South Asian and seem to have a moderate amount of local admixture, meanwhile in Northern Europe (UK, Ireland, Scandinavia) they look no different from the average local and have only trace amounts of pajeet DNA. Image for example - Top: Spanish gypsy; Bottom left: English gypsy; Bottom right: Greek/Balkan gypsy
>>18464201because those are completely different people >they look essentially no different from a modern pajeet from South Asiabecause they came from South Asia>they look no different from the average local because they're an average local
>>18464201Because gypsies in bongland aren’t romani gypsies. They’re just a trashy variety of Irish.
>>18464201I wonder how many Europoors would cry foul if every mention of them in the OP was replaced with the phrase "black people"
>>18464201They mixed extensively with eastern europeans (or stole their kids?) many look full slavic>>18464689Black people go to space and have positive contributions, gispsies are vermin
Romanichal Gypsies (British ones) aren't even gypsies anymore. They're 99% British genetically and all have british surnames like cooper, smith, boswell, johnson, hall, etc. All their "culture" is just lower class British culture-bare knuckle boxing, hare coursing, poaching, etc are just lower class british countryfolk practises. The only remnant of gypsys left in their culture are occasional british works like mush, chavvy, pagger, cosh, cushty but the british working class use those as well.And then there's irish travellers who aren't even genetically related to gypsies in any way they just live a similar lifestyle to them and get grouped in with them.
>>18464201>Northern Europe (UK, Ireland, Scandinavia) they look no different from the average local and have only trace amounts of pajeet DNAGypsies in Sweden and Finland (they are same population basically) look very different from local populations. They don't look South Asian either. Culturally they are still same as ever, half of male population is in prison and other half is doing petty crime and waiting to go to prison.
>>18464201Because they're completely different ethnic groups. Travellers are just an extremely endogamous group descended from menial labourers, criminals, itinerant craftsmen etc distinct from the broader Irish populationRoma are northwestern Indians
>>18464795I think you're confused, they aren't Roma, they're just Irish travellers. I don't think Roma and Irish travellers mix in any capacity
>>18464811They don't do begging which is a big differentiator from balkan gypsies though.
>>18464835Gypsy is partially an artificial grouping, and then there are initiatives to somehow forcefully group them together because of this artificial grouping which just perpetuates the nonsense even more
>>18464835No, you absolute retard. Why do you keep pretending all romanichal are travellers? I think you're a confused american who has never actually interacted with any Romanichal or Travellers. I have. Plenty of times.Romanichal are descendants of gypsies who came to Britain in the tudor period. They mixed with the local population, are 99% british genetically and surnames like Johnson, Smith, Boswell, Cooper, etc. They have british regional accents. A romanichal from devon will sound like a west country farmer. A romanichal from kent will speak like a cockney.Irish Travellers are not descended from Roma. They have surnames like Ward, Sweeney, Mcginley, Joyce, etc. They speak with a traveller accent which is a specific irish accent (although there's a few aexceptions like the Fury's having Northern accents).Romanichal and Travellers are amiable to each other and occasionally mix but they are absolute distinct groups from each other.
>>18464835>>18464875And again, here are two more romanichal. They aren't irish travellers at all. And most irish travellers don't like the term gypsy, they prefer the term traveller or tinker.
>>18464886>>18464875You’re a fucking idiot and probably American. Every single one of these people is an Irish traveler that migrated to the UK.
>>18465614Irish Travellers don't have English Surnames you absolute retard. They're gaelic irish people with gaelic and norman irish surnames.I literally live next to a traveller campsite and have interacted with travellers and romanichal gypsies countless times. Shut up yankee