Latest iteration of the Odyssey is baffling, same goes for latest Jesus
daily reminder
>>18464830
Race blind casting is normal you fucking bigot.
>>18464828>if only we had genetic data of from homeric times...oh wait, we actually do!
>>18464837Okay Professor Snape.
>>18464839One race! The human race!
>>18464828We own you now, Luigi
>>18464828the mental gymnastics you dark hell-spawned demons put yourselves through in order to deny your rightful place in whatever hole of hell your kind was spawned from are endlessly entertaining >"Wherefore in order that the happiness of the saints may be more delightful to them and that they may render more copious thanks to God for it, they are allowed to see perfectly the sufferings of the damned."St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
>>18464856If I showed you a picture of people who look like this, you'd start hooting about jeets.
>>18464858>jeetsgo back to hell, demon
>>18464867Yeah apart from the one on the left these are brown.
>>18464856Those are meds, not snowbantus like you
>>18464869>>18464872>these are brown
>>18464828They cry about black people and then they are silent when they cast Germoids who have completely different phenotypic features and genetics show they are more distant genetically from the ancient Greeks than even Levantine Arabs
>>18464884They are. I'm sorry. They are. You'd call them a wog if you saw them in real life.
>>18464884It's funny how self-hating Germoids are that they wish they had aquiline noses and curly hair like you can see on these frescoes. Sorry maybe in another life you won't look like some Oliver Khan abomination and you will look like the mediterraneans you so desperately want to be
>>18464832Mel Gibson has spoken.
No one wants to see some 5'0 balding brown wop waddling around, that's it basically
>>18464891>>18464888>They are brownlol, you are being retarded on purpose
>>18464903That's a med phenotype retard, short forehead, curly hair, big eyes, nose that takes most of the face, nose is also aquiline. You Germoids have completely different features and it's frankly pathetic how self-hating you lot are
It looks fucking terrible, why are the resident latinxers seething about the casting not being ethnically appropriate lol
>>18464888What's funny is the fresco this mentally ill retard keeps spamming is from Pompeii in the Imperial Era, the Era those wignat retards are propagandized to dismiss as le decline/great replacement era compared to the ''white'' Romans of the Republic. Meanwhile the only Republican sample we have cluster closest with southern Italians who they call ''brown'' 24/7 lol
incels ITT need this
>>18464903>apart from the one on the left
>>18464887That's really what it's about isn't it lol, the chuds cried about blacks being half the cast and now you have to 'own the chuds' here
>>18464915Neither black people nor Germoids should be cast in a movie about Ancient Greece, both phenotypically and genetically they are VERY far from the ancient Greeks
>>18464915>casting the wrong race is bad>that's why you should cast an Irish guy from Bawston and an Englishman as Greeks
>>18464922>they should cast a poojeet with 40% negroid admixture to portray white southern europeansplease kill yourself
>>18464922>>18464921>where's the funny italian-american from the bronx going EYYYY I'M ODYSEEIN' OVA 'ERE
>>18464924How are you reaching that conclusion based on what I wrote retard?
>>18464925>Scylla snatched several of the crew from the deck of the ship>They're effortlessly devoured as spray from Charybdis batters the deck and their screams and blood split the air>OOOOOOOHHHHH YOUS SEEING DIS!?!??
>>18464925Any random Lebanese looks more like an ancient Greek than your trailer park anglo-germoid fent cattle race does, how does that make you feel?
>>18464942Regular reminder that there are whole neighbourhoods of central Athens that aren't safe for tourists due to the number of drug addicts and in Crete there was a nigger style vendetta killing literally bthis week.
>>18464942Is that before or after they get flattened by israeli bombs because their mediterranean excellence failed them lol
>israeliSlavic snownigger east euroid barbarians occupying med land
>>18464960do not try to define the med, that is impossible... instead try to realize the truth, there is no med, there are only that light that are of God and the dark that are of hell, and the abomination of their adulteration
>>18464960and making lebanon their bitch, don't forget that
>>18464951The worst parts of Greece are a walk in the park even compared to the best parts of the US, get real and look at the stats. Your country has crime and murder rate rivaling subsaharian african countries
>>18464970Athens looks like a fucking brazilian favela lol
>>18464887This is completely retarded. I've been to Italy and Greece. Italians barely deviate from the Western European norm. And Greeks are about as different from an Anglo as Slavs are, just in different features. Which is still way close than either are to an arab.
>>18464970Here's your shining jewel of the Mediterranean Stavros.
>>18464976Genetics show that you are wrong, you are about as related to the Myceneans as the Saudis are (even less so actually in many instances), and Levantine Arabs are sensibly closer to them than you while still being overall pretty distant (closest populations are all Greeks and southern Italians). Nobody looked like Braddu Pittu or Matt Damon in ancient Greece, it's incredibly inaccurate phenotipically to cast those quintessential Germoids as Myceneans
>>18464980Still safer than literally any US city
>>18464992You mean the genetics that show that Greeks are descended from the same ancestral populations as the rest of Europe and that arabs aren't? Which, again, if you actually went there, you would be able to confirm with your own eyes.
>>18464994>no denial that most Greeks live in a concrete shit hole
>>18465000Greeks and other eastern medchads and Arabs share ancestry from Zagrosian bvlls while germ*ids do not.
>>18464828>SnownegroesThis isn't reddit, you can say the word.C U M S K I N
>>18465000>retard doesn't understand genetic clusteringMyceneans had very low steppe and their most common haplos was J2, so they cluster very far from northern Euro populations. Again you are sensibly less related to them than Levantine Arabs
>>18465002I loved visiting Athens, you are probably too broke to travel and leave your flyover state trailer park but it's a nice lively city with lovely friendly people and posting those pictures taken with weird lens is not how it looks once you are there
>>18465016Europeans aren't just steppe, you retarded brown nigger. And the pic you posted shows how dishonest your fixation on "Levantine" arabs is. That's effectively a map of Greek colonization. You'd say an American mulatto is closer to an Englishman than that Englishman is to a Greek.
>>18465016>Myceneans had very low steppe and their most common haplos was J2I'm dialing 555-comeonnow as we speak. The relentless semitisms have to stop.
>>18465027I've been to Athens. Everything outside of Syntagma and Plaka is an ocean of concrete apartments from the mountains to Piraeus. Now what?
>>18465033Arabs weren't even in the Levant 2000 years ago, but he's gambling that no one will know that.
>>18465033>>18465040Holy fuck how can you retards be any more delusional? Those Mycenean samples are compared with modern populations in that map retard. So yeah the Levantines on that map are the modern Arab speaking Levantines. Is there no lows you will not sink to to maintain your utter delusions lol? The ancient Greeks were closer to modern Lebanese and Palestinians than to any Germoid/Angloid populations, I know it must hurt but it's the truth
>>18465038I still liked the city overall, it's very lively and the people are great and it's still safer than living in any US city, I'd rather live in Athens than in any US city, I know that in Athens I have to avoid a few areas like Omonia Square while in the US any schizo anywhere can put a bullet in your head because he's having an episode that day
>>18465046That's just palestinian christians who are 1% minority, not muslim palestinians who mixed with black slaves.
>>18465046>compared with modern populationsYes I know. Which is why I already told you it's showing Greek admixture after centuries of Greek colonization. Barack Obama is half Anglo. So I guess that means the English are niggers.
>>18465057Nope, Saudis never had the ancient Greeks there and they are about as far from the Myceneans as Angloids/Germoids are. Stop coping, you Germoids have absolutely nothing to do with the curly haired mediterranid Myceneans phenotipically. Before crying about ''muh blacks'' start casting Greek actors instead of those unsightly Germoid ogres you keep casting
>>18465079i dont even know wtf youre arguing for and against. You seriously think Germanics are coping because they want to be having greek phenotype?What he's trying to tell you is that map clearly shows the areas that the ancient greek colonized and thats how they got greek phenotype; it doesnt mean those areas had ancient natives who were closer related to ancient greeks.
>>18464832Proven fake tho
>>18465106> it doesnt mean those areas had ancient natives who were closer related to ancient greeks.LMAOMudhut nordcucks FOREVER btfo
>das rite Hengist, we wuz Jesus and Agamemnon and shiet
>>18464828This movie isn't about odyssey at this point it's alternate history.It's probably as accurate as gladiator.
>>18465147So were the historical cyclopes Black?
>>18465143>>18464921>Ashkenazi Jews are closer to BA Greeks than Lebanese areSo what was cleiton pereira yapping about here then >>18464960
>Ashkenazi_Belarussia>0.6Here's your /his/-approved Odysseus, bro
>>18465221Ashkenazi jews being slavic is bullshit, they're really Sicilians.
>>18464838Are those the elite or random swarthy peasants and slaves
>>18464838>Ashkenazi_France>Ashkenazi_Germany>Ashkenazi_RomaniaHere's your /his/-approved Agamemnon, bro
>Goyslop where half the cast is BIPOC>"Senor, this filmo is Snownegro Nordcvck Germ civilization-stealer propaganda... o algo"
>>18465228>Here's your /his/-approvedmore like pic rel>>18465240>this copium againwe have ancient greek samples spanning 2500 years by now and they all have this racial profile
>>18465240We wuz elite snowbantu cope lol, classic. Meanwhile the elite Mycenean samples like the Griffin warrios have even less steppe than the other Mycenean samples lol (and not that Steppe = nordic either since Yamnayas had mostly dark features anyway, it's like delusional copes inside delusional copes with those wewuzzers)
>>18464828I remember watching HBO Rome years ago and thinking about how pretty much all the main cast would be recognizably barbarian in Ancient Rome. Ironically if they had casted more swarthy Celts like the guy who played Caesar, it would’ve looked more accurate than all those anglos walking around. The most Roman looking people in that show were the extras, and pretty much all of them were Italian.
>>18465240Elite Greeks did athletics and were outside constantly to keep an olive complexion. Paleness was associated with femininity and weakness, basically it meant you were a bitch.
>>18464828>larpinglarping? Theyre both descended from the same population of Anatolians, WHGs, and Steppe.Northern Europeans like Swedes literally share 50% of their DNA with archaic Mycenaeans.They have a huge overlap due to shared EEF/Steppe.Mycenaeans were 80% EEF with the remainder CHG/ANE.Swedes are over half EEF CHG/ANE.Groups like Finns share 1/3 of their DNA with Mycenaeans.No one is closer to Classical Man than Europeans.
>>18464992>>18465004>Zagrosiansnope.They have CHG DNA, which MENAmutts have but theyre more derived from Zagroids who have pajeet admixture.Arabs have wide hips, bug eyes, fish heads, and lack the cannons of Northern Europeans and of Greeks because of their residual pajeet admixture.The Genetic data shows Mycenaeans have more overlap with Scandinavians, and this movie didnt even cast Scandinavians it cast Americans who likely do have Med admixture, than with MENAjeets.>I am a hardnosed bedouin partriarchno youre not, youre a spindly frail potbellied quasi-jeet living at the mercy of the absolute giants of History that are White people.Given how ancient phenotypes recapitulate within populations, its very likely Brad Pitt and Matt Damon's particular phenotype was in Greece at least a handful of times as these phenotypes of Europe are very old.NEVER was there an arab or a zagroid or a jeet or nafroon phenotype in Ancient Greece, they simply didnt have the genes.These were not an 80% basal population, which is what youd need to produce the fish-headed dagonigs we call menajeets.
>>18465016>had low steppeAs do many Europeans.The fact they had steppe only brings them closer to Northern Europeans.Northern Europeans are generally less steppe and more EEF.Mycenaeans are generally less steppe and more EEF.>>18465046distance =/ ancestry.a black-asian mutt will cluster with modern MENAmutts (who are on some level the product of negro males mating with gyne asiaticus) despite having zero MENA DNA.>>18465079>far??far??Anglos share 75% of their genome with Mycenaeans.Mycenaeans are 80% EEF 20% Steppe/CHGAnglos are 55% EEF 45% Steppe/CHG.
>>18465423>>18465429>>18465434holy fucking kek, they are more akin to nafris than northern euros
>>18465429Nordcucks should be concerned about their real steppenigger and caveman ancestors instead of trying to claim med chads lol.
>>18465446distance isnt ancestry.>more akin towhat does this even mean here? They share less DNA with nafroons than they do with literal Viking age Swedes.Someone who is half English half African will share more DNA with an English person than an Arab will.However they will cluster further away from an English person than an Arab will.Do you understand how admixture vs distance works?
>>18465450>medMENAjeets arent meds though.They are almost entirely devoid of EEF and they lack the steppe and WHG admixture that makes Meds what they are.Youre not EEF.Youre not MEdyoure not even CHGyoure a weird Jcel rapebaby from half iranian half anatolian hillmen who raped your grandmother and forced you to worship them as grand desert patriarchs.You dont even resemble your ancestral grandfather, you resemble your ancestral grandmother who was a short, narrow shouldered, basaloon slave to men with brighter eyes and lighter skin.
>>18465429Nobody in ancient Greece had the tiny eyes, fivehead forehead, square face and straight blonde hair of Germs like Matt Damon and Brad Pitt. Stop coping you would never see someone who looks like Brad Pitt/Matt Damon in ancient Greece or Rome, even when Meds are blonde blue eyed they look nothing like Germoids with their vaguely asiatic features, they just look like meds with light features
>>18465476They didn't speak modern English either but that's not going to stop your histrionic meltdown about the casting is it
>>18465450That's where all this bs stems from, they have no ancient history and need to go around trying to steal other civs history. If their snowbantus ancestors had built something better than mudhuts and wrote the Snowbantu Odissey and Iliad you wouldn't see those shameless losers going around wewuzzing. Unfortunately their actual ancestors started being able to read and write in the fucking Middle Ages lol
>>18465476>>18465484You are so full of shit.>Overall, Iron Age Etruscans from central Italy could be modelled as deriving 50% of their ancestry from Central European Bell Beakers (represented by Germany Bell Beaker), with around 25-30% steppe ancestry. Two Etruscan samples were modelled as having 80% Germany Bell Beaker ancestry.[61]>A 2024 study on individuals from Tarquinia (9th–7th century BC) confirmed earlier results: ancestry was 84–92% Italy Bell Beaker with additional 8–26% Steppe admixture. Two males carried haplogroup J2b, and maternal haplogroups matched post-Neolithic European patterns. Physical traits included pale to intermediate skin tones, light/dark brown hair, blue and brown eyes.[72]
>>18465508>Seven Etruscan skulls were found in Corneto Tarquinia in the years 1881 and 1882 and were given as present to Rostock's anatomical collection in 1882. The origin of the Etruscans who were contemporary with the Celts is not yet clear; according to Herodotus they had emigrated from Lydia in Asia Minor to Italy. To fit the Etruscan skulls into an ethnological grid they were compared with skeletal remains of the first thousand years B.C.E. All skulls were found to be male; their age ranged from 20 to 60 years, with an average age of about thirty. A comparison of the median sagittal outlines of the Etruscan skulls and the contemporary Hallstatt-Celtic skulls from North Bavaria showed that the former were shorter and lower. Maximum skull length, minimum frontal breadth, ear bregma height, bizygomatical breadth and orbital breadth of the Etruscan skulls were statistically significantly less developed compared to Hallstatt-Celtics from North Bavaria. In comparison to other contemporary skeletal remains the Etruscan skulls had no similarities in common with Hallstatt-Celtic skulls from North Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg but rather with Hallstatt-Celtic skulls from Hallstatt in Austria. Compared to chronologically adjacent skeletal remains the Etruscan skulls did not show similarities with Early Bronze Age skulls from Moravia but with Latène-Celtic skulls from Manching in South Bavaria. Due to the similarities of the Etruscan skulls with some Celtic skulls from South Bavaria and Austria, it seems more likely that the Etruscans were original inhabitants of Etruria than immigrants
>>18465515>Ukraine_VertebraCave_BellBeakerIsn't Vertebra Cave literally that place where Cucuteni-Trypillia samples were found?Wtf am I even reading? Why would a Bell Beaker be in this cave of all places, much less Ukraine?
>>18465482>They didn't speak modern English either but that's not going to stop your histrionic meltdown about the casting is itthey should actually speak in the correct languages desu, I'd be down to watch it subbed Like Passion of the Christ but with all ethnically correct actors.
>>18465515>>18465526Oh sorry, this is actually a real thing. I thought your picture was some weird joke or subtle troll.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9068698/>A Late Bronze Age individual dated to 980–825 cal BCE has a genetic profile indicating affinity to Beaker-related populations, detected close to 1000 years after the end of the Bell Beaker phenomenon during the third millennium BCE.What was he doing in Ukraine though?
>>18465106>What he's trying to tell you is that map clearly shows the areas that the ancient greek colonized and thats how they got greek phenotype; it doesnt mean those areas had ancient natives who were closer related to ancient greeks.Cope. Modern Levantines have little to no Greek admixture. Philistines did but that was absorbed in a few generations. its clearly underlying shared similarity. The Ancient Greeks were swarthy EEF-oids, cousins of ANFs and Neolithic-Levantines.
>>18465106>it doesnt mean those areas had ancient natives who were closer related to ancient greeks.thats exactly what it means. Greeks were MENAs.
>>18464911Jumpscare
>>18465508The bell beakers existed thousands of years before the Germans existed as a defined ethno-linguistic group, retardThe Etruscans were high Anatolian and Low Steppe too, that's why they cluster most closely with modern central Italians, not with Germs. And how am I full of shit when I wrote that Germs have no ancient history? The little we know about them is because of Roman and Greek writers, they themselves were illiterate mudhut dwelling barbarians who left nothing written behind. If they had written their own Iliad and Odissey you wouldn't be here pathetically trying to wewuzz other civilizations accomplishmentsBy the way the statues you posted are all mediterranean phenotypes, short foreheads, nose that takes most of the face, big eyes, wavy hairGermoids have thin straight hair, small noses, tiny eyes and foreheads you can park a MIG-35 on. Imo being a Germ is one of the worst things that can happen to you phenotipically, especially if you are a man, which is why you are so self-hating and go around desperately trying to wewuzz and be what you are not. You don't see Greeks or Italians do that because they are happy with what they are, I only see Germoids do this because you are not happy with who and what you are, clearly
>>18465508early Romans were a bit more northern shifted but still majority EEF. they got further shifted south in the Imperial-era. Ancient Greeks were always MENAoids.
>>18465551Germs actually think they are close phenotipically to those dark curly haired typical mediterranean people lol
>>18465556Relatively speaking. The very early Latins, before and right around the foundation of Rome, they cluster closest with northern Italians and Iberians (so still not with any Germoid, those are the people nordicists call ''Moors'' 24/7). But the Republican Romans we don't know, we only have one sample and it cluster very close with Campanians and Apulians. So it seems already the Republican Romans were more similar to the Imperial Romans than to the Early Iron Age Italics
>>18465551>Germans are all a vaguely Swedish looking manI wish.However, Germans have archaic phenotypic overlap with Mediterraneans.If Mycenaean were alive today, he would sooner recognize a German than a Lebnog as his kinsman.
>>18465484>no ancient historyTheir ancestors wrote the first ancient history.The Greek myths werent from Greece lol, they came from Northern Europe.Zeus is a Northern European Steppe god.Poseidon is a steppe god.Jupiter is a steppe god.as it turns out MENAmutts really are just backward primitives with no contribution to civilization or the human race, nothing but rock stacking slaves for Aryan masters.
>WE WIR AGAMEMNON UND SCHEISSEMaybe the Greeklings are on to something when they claim westerners ache to be them...
>>18465657No you are still coping and not accepting who you actually are, a guy like Haz would look closer to ancient Greeks than any Germongolian, a by a long shot too, genetics proves it too>>18465660this is beyond sad at this point, I genuinely pity you historyless mudhutters, I wish your ancestors wrote something down so you wouldn't have to humiliate yourself like this
>>18465683Germs delusionally think they could pass as this LOL
Damn this board is shit lolAnother incel retard thread
>>18465683didnt Haz admit to being sub 90 IQ and thats why he wont debate?Haz does NOT look even remotely like an ancient Greek.A Lithuanian shares more DNA with a Mycenaean than Haz.>but uh duh big noseliterally none of the ancient Greeks had that pseudo latino beak.They had noses like the mediterranean average which is similar to the northern European average.>mudhutterslaughable considering MENAmutts never left the iron age while Northern Europeans built the modern world.Its literal Germans in Qatar directing brown mena slaves where to stack pylons and raise beams.>geneticsThe genetics show an overlap between Mycenaeans and Northern Europeans 2-3x greater than the overlap between Mycenaeans and anyone east of Crete.>>18465664Everyone involved in the production is English not German.
>>18465685looks much more German than MENA unironicallyYoure not "med" there is no "med" race.You arent apart of some shared "civilization builder heritage"You are slaves. You are brown sand eating slaves.you were raped by CHGs who are closer to Slavs than to Arabs.you are unrecognizable to archaic Greeks.
>>18465692>>18465693So thoroughly defeated by facts he starts brazenly lying and malding lol. Levantine Arabs are still closer to the ancient Greeks than your Germongolian race will ever be, genetics prove it. You look nothing like the ancient Greeks despite desperately wanting to be med, you will always be a historyless tiny eyed vaguely asiatic looking self-hating germoid ogre
>>18465693>looks much more German than MENA unironicallyUh yeah the brown dark curly haired Germans, you are beyond delusional it's kinda sad desu. You'd find people who look like that WAY more easily in Lebanon than in Germany, get real. But either way they shouldn't be sourced either in Lebanon or in Germany but in Greece or Southern Italy since they are the actually closest populations to the ancient Greeks
>>18465711Germans surpass you in every way now, Angelos
>>18466235In things like % of ethnically Turkic and Arabic population indeed they do.
>>18465711>Levantine Arabs are still closer to the ancient Greeks than your Germongolian race will ever beTrvke. Taleb won. STJ lost.
>>18464957Israel is med you fucking retard
>>18466959>Poles are med now Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age or an Israeli to do a DNA test
>>18466968why don't you look at a map jeet
>>18466973Why don't you read a basic history of the middle east. You don't actually think that the Jews who sprang into action following WW2 and fought the British and Arabs and carved out Israel were deset Jews who had been living there for 4000 years do you? It was a bunch of Poles and eastern European mystery meats who showed up after the Nazis finished slapping them around.
>>18464980Yeah I've been to Greece. A lot of it looked pretty shitty, old breaking infrastructure, people that don't care, etc. I'm sure it's better than Africa though loool.
>>18466968>>18467005See>>18464838>>18465143
>>18466317>ArabicIronic
Bros... I have absolutely no evidence right now. But what are the chances this film is anti-nationalist (or anti-white etc) propaganda? Think about it. >multiracial castI know there was like an African leader with his crew mentioned in the Trojan war by either Homer or another poet but nothing like this. >cast is essentially Nordicized But it's in a deliberately soulless way. Not just the drab visuals but like, Sean Bean and Brad Pitt at least had a tan and wore regionally-appropriate attire that looked kind of bronze age-ish, or bronze-looking armor. Matt just looks like a sad sojourning palefag. Not like a tragic hero from the classics. I love longships. I love bronze age material culture. I know enough about both, and art, to know when something is kitsch and that fucking boat is deliberate kitsch. It looks like the worst of everything. >deliberate campIt's again just drab melodrama, by all signs. Why did *that* need to be made? Troy at least had visual beauty and spectacle, more like classic Hollywood, even if the story was pure camp. Mostly just a vibe I got when I saw they cast an Indian to play Eurylochus. But with recent admissions in academia, NGOa and even intelligence agencies, and other kind of unprecedented changes... It seems very likely that this is deliberate propaganda to divide and demoralize us. There's no other reason to tell this exact story in this way. Odysseus slaughters the suitors because of their abuses. There's a reason why concerned parties would choose this story to subvert.
Reminder that the Gayreeks mocked the Ayran Persians for being pale
>>18465693>looks much more German than MENA unironicallymental illness
