You worthless niggers will all kneel before the might of the *heryos!Hail sky father!
>>18466020we was vedic rishis n shiet
>When Lord Dasazilian arrived on /his/ with his mod powers to delete 6 million on-topic thread, the first words he said was 'HUEHUEHUE BRBRBRBR????"
>>18466020It finally clicked why you niggers all go to religion, and stranger religions: you can't win in capitalism. LOL! You have to retreat into ancient superstition, which was itself the dominant paradigm that shaped political, societal, and economic structures, in order to feel a sense of agency in your life. Dude, just get a moral center and chill the fuck out.
>>18466020Is that a muthafuckin fluffy pony?!
>>18466020This was published 16 years ago. Is it still relevant or is it already obsolete with new archeological discoveries?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnUDbtqGQOQhail Dyēus Ph2tḗr
>>18466590>>18466522You don't need to be a retarded and cringe-ridden Larpagan to be haploautistic, Leave haploautism alone Besides, the Germanic peoples venerate shamanic figures like Wooooooootan to the detriment of Tiwaz.
>>18466522the discord invite is expired.someone invite me to your secret Indo-European discord club
>>18466021True
>>18466705>i posted map about autosomal steppe ancestry>some retard thinks its haplogroup based>>18466730its not sintashta what you have posted. here is the accurate aryan g25 distances, frisians the closest
>>18466738Someone said it's Sintashta? Why do you put words in people's mouths? The supposed Vedic samples were European. Sintashta didn't migrate directly to India.
>>18466730It's quite plausible that they were like that since we have samples very similar to andronovo profiles with little non-Indo-European ancestry in samples from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan from 1400-1200 BC.
>>18466753So the Sintashta genetic profile spread to India, mixed with the local population, and gave rise to the Vedic genetic profile, which is most closely related to the Irish?
>>18466785>mixed with the local populationIf these samples are indeed real (and they probably are, Niraj indirectly confirmed this by elaborating on leaked confidences), they didn't immediately mix with the IVCians. I like to think it was something similar to the Spanish Empire; the mixing was gradual, but the caste system was rigid due to the clear north-south gradient that exists. The reason they are closer to the Irish is due to the fact that they have less EEF than Nordics, and this model here... is not accurate>>18466522This sample has less than 40% steppe
>>18466798Also, To give you an idea of how it was possible to maintain a relatively homogeneous steppe_MLBA profile, here is a sample from the beginning of the Iron Age or the intermediate period between the end of the Bronze Age (1000 BC) and the beginning of the Iron Age in Uzbekistan that preserved the steppe_MLBA profile, so it's not impossible.Obviously, mixing would inevitably happen. Perhaps the IE colonization was similar to the Iberian one (?) with Indo-European elites in small numbers, but who knows? Speculation aside.
>>18466021
>>18466812>>18466798I agree with you. But the question is: for how long did they preserve their Aryan/European heritage? The Creoles in Spain were already in conflict with the Peninsulares over suspicions of diminishing their ancestry by possessing hidden foreign blood, and criticisms about fornication and drug use were very frequently with indigenous women, although much less so with black women.
>>18466820I'm not justifying fornication or unstable concubinage, but remember that the main reasons for these occurrences were due to a scarcity of Iberian women, something they themselves reported. So, to elucidate the Vedic case, it's necessary to understand if they brought women with them. We know there's a strong male-biased migration/invasion trend in India, so perhaps something similar occurred. But then we have profiles like this one>>18466812Which apparently might tell us that at least at some point the Andronovian Indo-Europeans and their respective para-cultures migrated with their women. But without samples and in-depth study, we're just talking.. right?
>>18466824>>18466820White men hate white womenThey are racial traitors since the Bronze Age. Cute white couples wasn't a thing apparently
>>18466020>barefoot in combat>MOUNTED combatdid ancients really?
>>18466020Conquest through being immunized to their own livestock's diseases is the most poo-in-da-loo coded type of conquest, really.
>>18466522>Nordic AryansYou mean Finnish Kale? Other than that “Nordic aryan” is an oxymoronI wish you faggots would stop using “Aryan” to mean “white”. The word has nothing to do with race, less to do with whiteness, and everything to do with language family. It makes normalfags clutch their pearls when historical linguists use the word in its correct meaning. It also forces us to come up with the retarded euphemism “Indo-Iranian”
>>18466117It's not the book you're looking for. It's about the deep prehistory of prehistoric Eurasian steppe cultures in general and only mentions the "Vedic Aryans" as one chapter of that.
>>18466851You lost For the thirteenth time, and I'll be here to humiliate you with every post. Aryan is an ethnonym created by Europeans for Europeans. Jarl is literally related
>>18466854Honestly? It's still the most unbiased thing in terms of archaeology that we have. Nothing has been updated since the last few decades and won't be until the Europeans instigate it and don't depend on liberal and poopnationalist validation.
>>18466851Ireland: AireIreland: RíIreland: Doírindia: aryahIndia: rajanyahIndia: dasahGermanics:1. thrall2. karl3. earl 4. kingThere's also the persian one.
>>18466872Don't forgot the greek aristos (aryan) and Doero (dasa/slave)
>>18466865Outdated chart, its missing lots of other cognates
>>18466865>European cognates lolThat doesn’t mean anything. It was never an ethnolinguistic autonym among Europeans. Even among actual Aryans it was more linguistic than ethnicI’m neither a jeet nor a cuck, just a linguist
>>18466020Muslims occupied most of the Iberian peninsula for four centuries and then continues to occupied Iberian land for another four centuries, staying there for eight centuries in total.>During the rule of Almanzor's Amirí regime, the already-rich Al-Andalus slave market reached unprecedented proportions. For example, the Moorish chronicles mention that after destroying Barcelona in July 985, Almanzor brought seventy thousand chained Christians to the great market of Córdoba[317] and, after destroying Simancas in July 983, he captured seventeen thousand women[374] and imprisoned ten thousand nobles.[483] Obviously, these figures must be carefully evaluated, but likewise given the enormity this type of trade reached during his tenure, Almanzor is described as "the slave importer".[317] The commoners of Córdoba even asked his successor to stop the trade since, to get a good husband for their daughters they had to raise the dowries to exorbitant levels because the young Christian slaves were so numerous and cheap that many men preferred to buy them instead of marrying Muslims.[484]North African Y-DNA in Spanish was transmitted in Latin Americahttps://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18414604/#q18415256Iranic Alan Y-DNA in Portuguese was transmitted to Latin America.https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18414604/#q18415272
>>18466946Words cognate to "Aryan" which have a stem which reflects PIE *h2eryo- are known to have been used as an ethnonym in Europe—in both Celtic and Germanic. This, along with the fact that it is used as an ethnonym in Indo-Iranian, allows us to reconstruct *h2eryo- as an ethnonym in Proto-Indo-European
>>18466946You're a cuck and not a linguist Lost again
>>18467020>are known to have been used as an ethnonym in Europe—in both Celtic and Germanicexamples please>>18467025>maybe if I call him a cuck people won't look too hard at my pseudoscience
>>18467030>Muh heckin pseudosoience!
>>18466946>It was never an ethnolinguistic autonym among EuropeansYou are wrong.The ethnonym sense goes back to PIE. That's why there's a Celtiberian inscription which refers to Aryans in the plural of a collective noun.The word used is ⟨araianom⟩. ⟨araia-⟩ is an ā-stem (< Proto-Celtic *ari̯ā- < PIE */h2eri̯-eh2-/) which is to be read as a collective noun, the same type of collective noun as Proto-Celtic *toutā "people, tribe"https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Celtic/tout%C4%81The ending ⟨-nom⟩ is the genitive plural. This means ⟨araianom⟩ must be read as "of the Aryan peoples/tribes". The use of a collective here is astounding. It allows us to see quite explicitly that there existed this Aryan identity that applied to groups of people.The inscription refers to the god Lugus as "Lugus of the Aryan peoples".Celtiberian inscription located here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe%C3%B1alba_de_Villastar>To the mountaineer and..., to Lugus of the Aryan peoples/tribes, in rural procession we came. For the mountaineer and the equestrian, for Lugo, the chief of the community raised a roof/covering, (also) a roof for the thiasusWhy is Lugus a god of the Aryan peoples though? When you understand that Lugus (Irish: Lugh) is the Celtic version of Agni, it makes a lot of sense.https://www.academia.edu/114396519/The_Irish_myth_of_Balars_killing_by_Lug_the_Norse_myth_of_Baldrs_killing_by_Loki_and_the_Indic_myth_of_the_Wounded_Sun
>>18466885Sorry
>>18466885Slavics btfo even Iberians called themselves aryan kek
>>18466824>>18466820>Recent researches have demonstrated [that] probably more than 3,000 years ago, the Aryan progenitors of the present Brahmin Race descended upon the plains of Hindoostan … The cruelties which the European settler practised on the American Indians on their first settlement in the new world, had certainly their parallel in India on the advent of the Aryans and their subjugation of the aborigines.Ironically true
>>18466865This chart again??? Who made it?
>>18467110>one sketchy ass Celtiberian source>a language we know little about, conveniently>Peñalba de Villastar of all things, lmao>here's one dude's analysis as proof>araianom MUST be read as 'of the Aryan peoples/tribes'sure, if by 'must' you mean 'could speculatively'. You're making a huge overreach.Your "source" has no mention of *ari̯ā or */h2eri̯-eh2-/ and sure as shit doesn't convincingly connect "araianom" to them, let alone in the same sense as among Aryans proper. There could have been some tribe called the Araii or Araiani, but for all we know that could be a paleo-European name that bears a coincidental resemblance. Or it could be a distant cognate used in a local but superficially similar sense. It's far from a smoking gun that an Aryan ethnonym existed among them (let alone, among all Celts) in the same way that it exists among Aryans proper."Lugus = Agni" is yet another extreme stretch with little to no mainstream scholarly consensus. There's all kinds of crazy shit floating around on Academia.You are obviously trying to make the (very sparse) facts line up with your Pan-Indo-European ideology. Your argument would never pass peer review. We're gonna need a lot more than that, bud. Better luck next time, thank you for playing
>the goyim have realized the final truthfeelsgoodman...
>>18467054I accept your instrument of unconditional surrender
>>18467877That anon has backbone against thy baseless doctrinal thinking. Positionally, he has the supreme advantage.
>>18467789>"Lugus = Agni" is yet another extreme stretch with little to no mainstream scholarly consensus. There's all kinds of crazy shit floating around on Academia.If you're going to play dumb or you don't even have time to look at what you were linked too, then obviously there is no point in having any sort of discussion with you since you aren't taking this seriously or you're being deliberately dishonest.academia.edu is a website where people share papers. It is only a convenient place to download a file.Ginevra, R. (2023). The Irish myth of Balar’s killing by Lug, the Norse myth of Baldr’s killing by Loki, and the Indic myth of the Wounded Sun. ZEITSCHRIFT FüR KELTISCHE PHILOLOGIE, 70(A), 67-90.https://doi.org/10.1515/ZCPH-2023-0003https://www.degruyterbrill.com/journal/key/zcph/html>Zeitschrift für celtische Philologie (ZcP) was founded in 1897 by Kuno Meyer and Ludwig Christian Stern. It is thus the oldest significant periodical of Celtic studies still in existence.
If they were so powerful why did they lose?
>>18468057Didn't you realize that was a concession? And didn't you realize who exactly you're talking to? Ignore him.He already lost
