Soviets:>annihilate the German army at Stalingrad and Kursk>Liberate the entirety of Eastern and Central Europe>Kill 80% of German soldiers (4 million)>Liberate BerlinUSA and allies>capture a few villages in western Germany after getting push backed several timesGenuinely why do people still think the “Allies” defeated Germany when really it was the Soviets?
>>18466273The Soviets... who are part of the Allies. Also, why do you troglodytes pretend as if every war's goal is to kill as much people as possible? Soviets did the bulk of the damage but also lost the most. America is the true winner because despite joining the a few months later than the Russians they had better grand strategy and was the uncontested world superpower after Germany fell.
>>18466301> Soviets did the bulk of the damage but also lost the most.No they didn’t. Stalin achieved his goal of restoring Tsarist borders, and much more. It was a total victory for the Soviets > America is the true winner because despite joining the a few months later than the Russians they had better grand strategy and was the uncontested world superpower after Germany fell.Wrong. The Soviets were the first to become a superpower as the US still hadn’t consolidated its gains in Europe. Also Soviet grand strategy was genius and prevented the WW3 from breaking out (Operation Unthinkable)> Also, why do you troglodytes pretend as if every war's goal is to kill as much people as possible? Nobody is saying that. We’re just saying the Soviets sacrificed the most. Also I bet you think Iran lost because “muh 6 gorillion generals killed!
>>18466273No one won, Russia currently get bucked in Ukraine.
>>18466307>they didnt lose a ton of soldiers because... I said so!Most intelligent argument on /his/. I'd lose braincells arguing with you I'm just gonna post some ancient Injun erotica and remain answerable to the consequences.
>>18466380who cares, their 1946 population was already higher than 1941
