So was Mansa Musa actually not Rich?
>>18466665https://youtu.be/-MeYYOvRhyw?si=yxlpEv_n98ykGp7uhe was white, it was a kingdom established by a white tribe to harvest black slaves and use black slaves to mine gold
>>18466665It's obvious. Even before this video came out, I reached similar conclusions to the video's author. To begin with, Arabic sources are heavily supported by a somewhat fantastical and almost "mythological" bias, and many of these citations weren't even primary sources but secondhand accounts. There are even accounts of magical stones in Syria that cure diseases. These citations have the same reliability as Herodotus, at the very least. If anything, Musa died without paying his debts and didn't necessarily cause a massive "inflation" in Egypt as is recounted, and crossing the Sahara with such an exaggerated amount of gold is not only dangerous but unfeasible. He flaunted it.
>>18466665>>18466676Has anyone noticed an Uptake of Right wing adjacent "chud youtube" content in the Reccomended? It seems to be that YT guys are nudging it.
>>18466679Oh, one more thing: When some kangz or storyteller postulates cipher X or Y for Musa's fortune, you can disregard them and conclude that they are either stupid or biased, simply because we have no idea how large his fortune actually was. The figures cited by these Arabs are usually exaggerated. Ibn Khaldun mentions 12 tons of gold, but he literally doesn't go into any further detail. Literally. It's just a number thrown out there.
>>18466687Yes and you cry about it.
>>18466665No the legends of him having so much gold it made a literal mountain and he lost it all in the desert are totally true!
>>18466687Are YT guys crypto-chuds suddenly? Years ago they used to shill only breadtube
>>18466687Believe it or not, actually history isnt the gay jewish racemixing slop made for modern audiences that you watched on netflix
>>18466687Oh, the glowies are just salty that the Tataria psyop didn't work and instead it got people looking into the pre-Columbian new world enough to deduce that Asia/West Africa/global Islamic influence started colonizing first. It's just them fumbling an already tenuous narrative about the discovery of the Americas.Regardless to what extent Musa was wealthy there were definitely people in his kingdom who tipped their spears in gold and (according to Columbus who also described mosques on the Caribbean) who traded with the natives.Something to consider when getting some reddit lodge onions from nowhere making these WELL ACKTUALLY propaganda pieces: By the accounts of Columbus himself, Muslims were here first.I know that fact is inconsolable for some fake nations/religions.
>>18466708>Arab muslims discovered/colonized America firstGotta be bait
>>18466708Untreated schizophrenia
>>18466687Elites want people to be dumb reactive dopamine-seeking goyslaves and culture war slop content is their current means of doing so. The Epstein files reveal this.
>>18466676Canary Islanders weren't white, retard. The vast majority of their DNA comes from Iberomarusians and they are genetically closest to Moroccan North Africans. https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(17)31257-5Musa was also described as a negro with a brown complexion. If he was "white," then the numerous chroniclers at the time would have noted the oddity of a non-black ruling a kingdom populated almost entirely by blacks. Sepehr is a mentally ill schizo and nothing he posts is worth listening to.
>>18466676he wasn't, can't believe you actually reposted robert sepehir, that literal 70 iq mouthbreather that believes aliens and altantis are real, may as well post a fantasy movie as a historical source
>>18466721>the culture war is when right wingLiterally your side started all of this shit. For example Mansa Musa is a pseudohistorical myth promulgated by libs
>>18466715>>18466717Not my claims, just what Columbus, Corronado, Cortez all had to say.It's on you to refute them, not cuckishly argue in favor of your propoganda custodians.
>>18466721Epstein was a basic bitch #resistlib lol
>>18466729i'm as right wing as one can possibly be, unfortunately you're not defeating any left winger if your chud youtubers are straight up retards like Robert Sepehr, if youtube was promoting good right wing content that would be a different matter entirely
He was rich, but nowhere near as rich as people claim. The particular video you display is incredibly biased.
>>18466732>Columbus, Corronado, Cortez all said Arab Muslims discovered/colonized America first Lol, no, you are retarded
>>18466679>>18466690Estimates of Musa wealth aren't based on sources but on the fact that almost half of the gold in Europe during the 14th century came from Mali.I know this board doesn't care about history but reading a book once or twice wouldn't hurt
>>18466665Something rather fecal is amongst this video.
>>18466735Also, this is like, the third thread about Musa we've had this week.
>>18466727>may as well post a fantasy movie as a historical sourceThe more time passes the more one thinks that both sides just try to pull even a tinest crumb of stuff to venerate their points. I guess it's true that Every Historian is an unrealised Dictator.
>>18466743>reading a book once or twice wouldn't hurtNobody who utters this phrase ever names any book. Which "book" should we read? The Akashic Records? Paul Erdős' "The Book"?
>>18466747The tomb of Askia has no relation with Musa
>>18466747Yeah, it's incredibly biased and many things said are wrong. The guy behind it is a total chud; I recall him mentioning that he believed Sudano-Sahelian architecture was introduced by foreigners due to there being a 1% chance that the sites that predate significant MENA influence weren't made by nigs.
>>18466743>Books are written by Lefties bribed by the Jews since the firs written word. This Board propablyBut on a more serious note It's clear that History has always been pushed to further someones ideology. And I guess we are finnaly witnesing the end of a Fact Checking era.
>>18466747He's not an Indian, he's a crypto white nationalist but just "prefers" Indians to blacks because of his belief in Hamitic theory slop. According to their adherents blacks are incapable of creating higher civilization which includes great architecture thanks to their lack of "Eurasian" (read, white-similar) blood and the only reason there are successful African societies is because of the introduction of a Eurasian element.
>>18466740>hurrr I can't be bothered to read so I'm just gonna say nuh-uh la-la-la I can't hear you Bibi please give me another check I argued for your fake state like you asked
>>18466676>robert sepehropinion automatically discarded
>>18466758I believe this depiction is inaccurate; The "Walls" of Benin were/are, primarily, a big ass moat.
>>18466758>He's not an Indian, he's a crypto white nationalist but just "prefers" Indians to blacksIt's always some weird hierarchy of Asians with these People. If not indian then its either Chinese, Japanise or Persian. But noone bothers with I dunno...Thais. They seem cool with fascinating history(pre Cold War merry go round of Military Coups).
>>18466761>Benin were/are, primarily, a big ass moat.Not really, maybe the external defense, but the internal walls surrounding the palace were actually walls with a gate
>>18466760>>18466708Yes, that's why you have a mound of archaeological evidence to corroborate that, right. You're not just relying on the same people that said there were cities of gold and giants in patagonia lol
>>18466755A very unintelligent chud. At least his past contemporaries knew how to articulate themselves in a way that their ideas would spread faster amongst a general audience. This nigger on the other hand doesn't try to do this, and reveals himself too quickly as a faggot who probably jerks off in Sub-Sahara African related threads here on /his/. He will most likely end up canned within a year or two. Another nigger in the sands of time, to be forgotten as a fraud, like Mansa Musa himself.
>>18466715maybe he is a follower of Moorish Temple https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America
>>18466774What in the video is false info?
>>18466774>to be forgotten as a fraud, like Mansa Musa himself.Then why does this man live in your heads rent free ?
>>18466772Hundreds of years of written record, hundreds of years of atlases sanctioned by the Holy Roman Empire, most recently the Etzenoa megasite in Kansas which is a major population center several times the size of RomeIf anything the explorers downplayed the wealth and populations to diminish the crimes of raiding them. Would you really leave a city decorated in gold to stand? Or talk about it without claiming its riches? Or talk about it at all, knowing you're a target for now possessing the wealth?
>>18466783Going off memory:Blacks never inventing writing(you could argue that this is *technically* true, but to say so without context is disingenuous)Iron metallurgy not being widespreadAttribution to Sudano-Sahelian architecture and certain buildings to foreignersClaiming there were no mines in Mali (I believe Ibn Battuta literally mentions them existing for both salt and gold)Basically suggesting that Mansa Musa wasted all of his money in Egypt (pretty much impossible and definitely not true given further context).
>>18466796> Iron metallurgy not being widespread*and stone tools being more popular, should've added that.
>>18466796He also suggests that civilization in West Africa was due to foreign influence, which has been debunked for a while now; People started rising above simple villages prior to MENA influence.
>>18466793>hundreds of years of chinese whispers not corroborated by any archaeological evidenceFixed
>>18466747Taken out of context. He was referring to Arab travellers and writers in that segment iIrc.
>>18466796>Blacks never inventing writing(The funny part is that technically white people didn't invent writing either alongside metallurgy and agriculture Europe was basically riding off the back of the near East for most of its history.
>>18466732>Not my claims, just what Columbus, Corronado, Cortez all had to say. They did not. It is your claims.
>>18466819Look up Corronado's Quivira expedition. You'll find right away his account of a native he *for some reason* calls the turk. There are lesser figures who refer to natives as Turks in this time period as well.Look up Columbus's memoirs. He specifically mentions a mosque atop a hill in Cuba.Look up Cortez's description of Teotihucan, the houses of worship mentionedNot to mention the amount of explorers who brought Muslim interpreters. You're telling me some uncontacted continent knew these languages already? What?
>>18466777>MoorishNon whites arent moorish no matter how hard you afrocentrist jew faggots try to claim your hell-spawned demons are progenitors
>>18466817>agricultureDon't they primarily descend from people who did?
>>18466831They found brown people in south america and to whites all brown people look the same. There's no difference between a south American goblin and an Arab orc
I mean he was probably rich, but you telling me he was richer than millionaires or the people who colonized the new world?Mali's gold is not THAT valuable bro.
>>18466841>all brown people are the same and speak the same ooga-boogaThis is why the jews took over you retards so effectively up to and including now.
>>18466750People who say that have literally only read one or two books at most. Like woah, nigga, you read Guns, Germs, and Steel? Crazy. He’ll never cite us anything to read.
>>18466846>Mali's gold is not THAT valuable bro.That's one of the dumbest thing I ever read on his>>18466837No, it came through migrations from the near east and adoption from the local hunter gathers
>>18466848>jews took overProof?
>>18466857> adoption from the local hunter gathersDidn't the farmers basically just enslave and rape them? I've never heard about this.
>>18466831None of which is corroborated by any archaeological evidence. There's been almost a century of excavations at Teotihuacan, why haven't they uncovered anything indicating an Islamic presence?>Not to mention the amount of explorers who brought Muslim interpretersIt was the lingua franca from Morocco to Delhi; if the Americas were actually just the farthest edge of Asia it makes sense that they would cover their bases by having someone fluent in Arabic.
>>18466857>No, it came through migrations from the near east and adoption from the local hunter gathersAbout 1/3 of northern European dna comes from early european farmers, the people who migrated. Southern Europe has even more of their dna. So, strictly speaking, the ancestors of Europeans did invent agriculture, just not in Europe.
>>18466665He is right that we should be more skeptical of Mansa Musa being the richest man in history, but he kind of overdoes it on the CHUD aesthetics, it will scare away the casual pop history enjoyers, which should be his target audience if he wants to overturn this idea.
>>18466863>There's been almost a century of excavations at Teotihuacan, why haven't they uncovered anything indicating an Islamic presence?Because the entire archeological history of the site is muddled with fuckery>largely destroyed/abandoned>a strict condition of pyramid restoration efforts were to virtually change the entire design, to the point that people tasked with leading restorations quit>the entire Aztec history starting roughly in the 1400s as a confederation of warring tribes, almost certainly organized by Roman invaders>before you ask yes in fact very recently Roman artifacts 100s of years pre-official contact are being published in mainstream press decades after initial discovery >the lingua franca from Morocco to Delhi; if the Americas were actually just the farthest edge of Asia it makes sense that they would cover their bases by having someone fluent in Arabic.But they continued to do this for subsequent voyages. This means they either set up Muslim colonies themselves or were meeting other established colonies.
>>18466831>*for some reason* calls the turk.Because he looked like one. Whatever that even means to a Spaniard. Turkeys, as is the bird, also are not actually Turkish. El Turco was a captive slave that led his captors on a wild goose chase for a city of gold that didn't exist. This was a common practice for tribals dealing with gold crazed Spaniards who insisted an El Dorado was just around the corner. You keep telling them that it's that way off in the far corners, so they hopefully just get lost, die, and maybe at least leave your own tribe alone.
>>18466869He diluted this into a chud pop his video. He's not any better.
>>18466883How come Ottoman Turks had a more complete/accurate map of the Americas before anyone else? With named regions that imply connections to Al-Andalus? Specifically in coastal stretches.What about the festivals in the western states that honor Quivira? And the monarch of the region of Muslim tradtion?What about the Anderson Roll? The record of confiscated properties of Gulf State colonies full of Islamic naming conventions?Somehow I don't think they were referring to birds.
>>18466752It's still the third greatest monument in Mali after pic related and the fake mosque built by the French in Djenne in 1907
>>18466758Ugh...Benin City....truly Wakanda
>>18466729Mansa Musa was the richest man to ever live if you believe gold is a mystical, transhistorical measure of wealth and not a resource whose value is relative to its supply and historical context. There were objectively more wealthy and powerful polities contemporary with Mansa Musa, he just had a lot of one resource that's extremely valuable today. Since both chuds and libs believe gold is a mystical value store, you will argue yourselves silly ad infinitum.>>18466733pilpul
>>18466920>built by the FrenchAs far as I'm aware, they merely funded it's construction.
>>18466932This, gold at many points in history was less worth than amber stones or even purple pigment, because for royals gold came easy. People who know how to fabricate pretty regal outfits were rarer.I have to wonder if the Mali/west Africans had a reputation for flaunting their easy gold acquisition, thus the CIA pushing the gold chain meme in rap culture. Decorated bondage.
>>18466944The Musa's definitely had a reputation. I believe Mansa Musa's grandson gave away damn near the entire treasury.
>>18466860There were centuries of conflict going either way at whatever timesAt the end all remaining were farmers, but this includes hunter gatherers who adopted farming, and i've even heard archaeology indicates there were cases where hunter gatherers defeated and subjugated farming societies
>>18466907>>18466882Anon, you're not getting it. If the contact was that extensive then it would be reflected in the physical environment as well. Mesoamerican/caribbean/Gulf archaeologists should regularly be turning up anomalous artifacts in pre-contact sites like glass shards, discarded pieces of iron, cattle/sheep bones etc that clearly pre-date European contact. But they don't. Even that Roman artifact being pre-contact is heavily disputed.
>>18466966The Roman artifact in question was unearthed in the 30s and wasn't given official sanction until a couple of years ago.Also do you sincerely believe that Europe in a mad dash to claim the new world would have exhaustively preserved the artifacts and treasures of the people they conquered? Especially if they suggested that the enemy religion/world order was there first?Exactly who was in the Caribbean and came to arrive there? Are you telling me the islands were just stone age antideluvians for all of history? No one built boats? Again, Colmbus himself -- the guy -- said the natives traded with Africans and that there were mosques in the area.Yeah it's not like the whole of Olmecs right along the coast of the drift current route to Africa with obviously black-featured stone heads is a thing. Not like the entire west is dotted with architectural conventions the exact same as those in west Africa. Pueblo houses and old mud mosques are virtually indistinguishable.Nope just a happenstance that with all the other evidence and record hundreds of millions of natives were "accidentally" killed by diseases and then accidentally had all their major population centers burned down. Glowies are not going to be able to sway people on this anymore. History as curated =/= history as independently verifiable. There's more record to prove Muslims founded the Americas than the contrary. All they've got is begging us to believe the people who lie about everything and lost every war.Refute the evidence, it's there.
>>18466997The spanish brought with them livestock, ironworking, crops and a bunch of other old world shit that leaves tangible traces in the physical environment. Your ostensible migrants somehow didn't. You're telling me mesoamerica was extensively settled by west africans, yet not a single one bothered to bring over a breeding pair of cattle, sheep, or goats?
>>18466907>How come Ottoman Turks had a more complete/accurate map of the Americas before anyone else? With named regions that imply connections to Al-Andalus? Specifically in coastal stretches. Compiled in the 1500's *after* Columbus>What about the festivals in the western states that honor Quivira? And the monarch of the region of Muslim tradtion? Hippie shit. Nothing to do with an actual lost city. The legend of Quivira and Cibola stem from the legend of people fleeing Spain from Islamic invaders and establishing 7 cities on a distant island
>>18466997If Blacks were there before whites, then we'd DEFINITELY see it in the genetics of the natives brochacho.
>>18467024>Compiled in the 1500's *after* ColumbusStill with more regions named, more accurate understanding of rivers and formations than any other map at the time. Curiously, European maps beyond the mid-1600s omit or relegate the Pacific Northwest regions to "Terra Incognita" when the Ottoman maps and previous Latin maps show the area interchangably as Iesso/Yezzo/Anian. Notably, these are old names for Hokkaido, and there's native tribes in the Northwest that strongly resemble the Ainu. This is a whole other civilization/religion potentially but this is a testament to the "dude, come on" levels of implausible ignorance. You can deduce from that alone that the Ainu probably got to the Americas and controlled some of the Bering (since Anian regions are typically labeled as "regnum")So if you like Japanese people more than Turks then good news! And they're the white ones!
>>18466997>Are you telling me the islands were just stone age antideluvians for all of history?There were no antediluvians because there was no deluge. >No one built boats?Please show me the transatlantic boat in question>Again, Colmbus himself -- the guy -- said the natives traded with Africans and that there were mosques in the area. He thought he was in Asia>not like the whole of OlmecsYou know there are other Olmec artifacts, right? It's not just giant stone heads? But a variety of artistic styles? Yeah. >Not like the entire west is dotted with architectural conventions the exact same as those in west Africa.It isn't. Your thinking of Spanish colonial architecture which itself is influenced by Arab and Imazigh architecture from the Islamic conquest. >Pueblo houses and old mud mosques are virtually indistinguishable. You have no idea what a mosque is.>Nope just a happenstance that with all the other evidence and record hundreds of millions of natives were "accidentally" killed by diseases and then accidentally had all their major population centers burned down. "Look at all the evidence that isn't there!" Yes. Exactly. >Refute the evidence, it's there.It isn't
>>18467035Good news, you can readily see that in the native populations there, thus the first governor being black. Kind of strange that they kept the name California instead of going with Santa Cruz. I guess they figured it wouldn't be a big deal, this name that can be read as "Land of Decorated Califs".
>>18467040What do you think historical records -- verbatim accounts of the key figures -- and literal pre-Columbian physical objects count as? If you don't see that as evidence then I don't see the point in arguing this.It's not even a fringe take, fucking Erdogan openly claims that Muslims got to the Americas in 1178, citing some of the exact -- I'm sorry to say it -- evidence. So you believe everything Columbus said/stated/was said about him except for the that?
>>18466925Besides mesofag now we africalarp
>>18467024Quivira was an empire (as alleged in hundreds of records) and this is being backed up with the Etzenoa excavations in Kansas. The people leading it claim the area housed populations several times larger than Rome.This is a pretty recent discovery too, going back only to 2018.
>>18467059>What do you think historical records -- verbatim accounts of the key figures -- and literal pre-Columbian physical objects count as?There are no such records or artifacts>It's not even a fringe take>Erdogan openly claims thatErdogan, lol
>>18467037>Still with more regions namedNames only matter if they correspond to something that exists in reality>more accurate understanding of rivers and formations than any other map at the time.No. Just no. At least not in reference to the Americas. And again, it's a compilation based on other maps. >Curiously, European maps beyond the mid-1600s omit or relegate the Pacific Northwest regions to "Terra Incognita" when the Ottoman maps and previous Latin maps show the area interchangably as Iesso/Yezzo/Anian.No, European maps showed exactly what you're talking about and it's wrong. There is no Straights of Anian because California is not an island as the Spanish had previously thought. Long after Columbus mistook the Americas for Asia, people still thought they could sail through a Northwest Passage. That's what the Straight of Anian was about. And it doesn't exist.
>>18467099>Quivira was an empire (as alleged in hundreds of records) and this is being backed up with the Etzenoa excavations in Kansas. The people leading it claim the area housed populations several times larger than Rome. >>This is a pretty recent discovery too, going back only to 2018.Quivira was part a legend of Spanish Christians fleeing from Muslim invaders to an island in the west. Etzenoa is Etzenoa. Referring to Etzenoa as "Quivira" is using an exonym based on the legend of the variously named Seven Cities of Antillia, a phantom island that has in turn lent its name to the actually existing Greater and Lesser Antilles in the Carribean. The inhabitants of Etzenoa did not refer to their land as Quivira. That's a name the Spanish came up with, and they never even found Etzenoa, because Etzenoa was long gone by the time Europeans showed up.
>>18466932>if you believe gold is a mystical, transhistorical measure of wealth and not a resource whose value is relative to its supply and historical context.Pseudo economic mumbo jumbo. Gold was valued commodity in both Europe and the Islamic world
>>18466665I never quite wrapped my head around why this one particular guy being the richest ever or not mattered.
>>18467252He governed a state that supplied almost half of the gold circulating in Europe, and North Africa.
>>18466687Wakanda will never existYou will never produce a functional civilisation
>>18467268Ok but that has nothing to do with what I said.
>>18466925Artistic impression not meant to be 100% accurate still kino though
>>184671921800s reproduction of a 1600s map. Lower right hand section.>"a short distance inland from the Strait of Anian (now known as the Bering Strait) will be found the town of Xanadu, made famous in..."Awww. Sorry that's why this is such a bad psyop, you have centuries of authors to refute who argue the points wikipedia probably isn't going to tell you honestly.>hurrr the Ainu waterway is a mythical entity, cartographers just guessed a bunch, no association with the region readily accessible via drift currentsLol alright then
>>18466831Mosque was a term they used for any non-christian temple. It doesn't mean the Aztec pyramids were built by fucking muslims.
>>18467252The discourse around it is the usual wewuz + the usual "whitey stole our shiet"
>>18467421Even if Cortez was wrong the Corronado account is curious. As is Columbus, because he accurately describes the appearance of Africans who traded with the natives. At the very least it can be objectively argued Muslims were at the very least trading with native peoples before Spain.
>>18467505Different anon but as I said before, we would have material evidence of that exchange happening, like west-african-forged iron tools/weapons in pre-contact mesoamerican burial sites or settlements. But we don't.
>>18467528You don't think it's possible these artifacts weren't preserved? Especially when they were immediately useable resources by anyone who overtook them? They're not gonna build a museum honoring the natives they killed, they're going to take and melt down whatever metals they had.This is what the Western narrative hinges on, the absence of specific material evidence that would've been destroyed if not meticulously preserved. That combined with cherry picking which aspects of history to highlight.
>>18467576Because it's not just iron materials, it's any old world 'tech' that is very obviously missing from the pre-contact archaeological record. Even something as simple as the absolute absence of the bones of old world livestock like sheep or goats in pre-contact trash pits.
>>18467588Again, if a rival entity was there first and had claim, do you think Europe/American interests would diligently keep those records?The Smithsonian is famously known to have been entrusted with findings and never following up on the research. You don't think there's some possibility of foul play/propaganda?
>>18467313Here's a drawing made by a British soldier before invading the city in 1897Probably the most accurate depiction
>>18467626You are citing European explorers for your argument there was an Islamic presence in the Americas before Columbus lol
>>18467670Looks comfy honestly.
>>18467707Yeah it's a nice villageIt would make for a great "natural retreat" summer camp or somethingOnly issue lies with the fact it's supposed to be in the top 5 greatest megapolis of precolonial Subsharia
>>18467670Kino
I'm glad everyone else got this video recommended to them at the same time as me.
>>18467670The walls were already somewhat eroded from age and mismanagement. The city's sack got rid of the last vestiges.
>>18467917This drawing is fiction thoughIt was made by a Dutch guy who never set a foot there
>>18467719> Village is when I don't like the buildings
>>18466687Because believe it or not Chudslop is going mainstream. Normies are naturally attracted to larp and "le contrarian opinion actually true and based?"
>>18466766Its usually the Japs.
>>18466920>200kg of gold built THIS
>>18466920Why is the niglet taking a pic with him?
>>18466665These are the stupid ramblings of a man that does not know or understand history. If he was the biggest fraaud in history then why did numerous scollars write of his lands in the same way and talked about how rich he was, he was controlling a massive empire and had control ovel huge hidden from the public slave gold mines +he was trading a lot with the other muslims mainly gold and slave thru the sahara slave routes witch we know were very profitable. There is no way this guy was just a broke fraud as this retard is sayng
>>18468204You're basically right, but goddamn, learn to spell..
>>18466920This was constructed by an individual con of exceptional wealth??
>>18468204>If he was the biggest fraaud in history then why did numerous scollarsWhich ones?
>>18468204>why did numerous scollars write of his lands in the same way and talked about how rich he wasYeah dude, medieval and early modern scholars never exaggerated claims. Also, the few sources we have on him are discussingoin the video you are seething about.
>>18468204>numerous scollarsUh?The only contemporary source was Al-Umari, who merely recounted the allegations of people who had met Egyptians who had themselves met Musa and his crowd during their Hajj a decade prior.All other sources came later and are based on Al-Umri's account
>>18468613*discussed in
>>18468613>Yeah dude, medieval and early modern scholars never exaggerated claimsIs this the new cope?
>>18468792I hate the particular video being discussed due to it's blatant bias and many inaccuracies, but that is not a cope.
this was the best thing the richest man in africa can build
>>18468861meanwhile this was one of the many cathedrals built in europe during their darkest ages
>>18468861(This was funded by the French and built by a local guild; There have been several iterations of this building)
>>18468861>>18468863Retard, that building was rebuilt after being destroyed in the 19th century. There are far more grand depictions of Sudano-Sahelian architecture from the very same region (modern day Mali)
>>18466687The recommended is an algorithm designed for your own tastes (and therefore as a source of targeted advertising revenue), Big YouTube over in Palo Alto isn't really pushing it intentionally.
>>18468861This was built by the French in 1907The greatest building left by Mansa Musa is actually even less impressive >>18466920
>>18468883> built by the FrenchSource? As far as I'm aware, they merely funded it, not to mention that I'd doubt they'd be too familiar with abode architecture.
>>18468872The original Djenne mosque before the French reconstruction was smaller (and thus even less impressive).And btw your drawing looks good because it is that, a drawing.In reality it probably looked like (dried) shit and much less polished.
>>18468891Given how bad the Djenne mosque looks, I'm inclined to believe the French had very little involvement indeed.The buildings in local style they closely oversaw generally look much better.Pic related for exemple
>>18468900Djennne has sovl whereas this does not. > The buildings in local style they closely oversaw > Pic related for exempleAgain, source? I wouldn't be surprised if you were right, it has a different feel, but this doesn't seem to be true from a glance.
>>18466694>>18466698>>18466729>>18467283/pol/tranny meltdown
>>18468863That's not medieval at all
>>18468938Don't know about the specific church that dude posted, but pic related is from the 14th century (the same era Mansa Musa lived) and it shits all over anything the Mali "Empire" left behind
>>18466687I belive america is getting ready to leave Israel to it's own fate, due to midlle east no longer being a priority, after the conquest of Venezuela. The most expensive US military base, Israel, is no longer needed, and in order to let them go, and leave them in a situation with a strong possibility of Arabs genocidnig them, america has to create the narative in which Jews are seen as evil monsters that deserve to be genocided,to make the public backlash non-existant, hence the rise of rightwing content on mainstream platforms.
Having a bunch of yellow metal doesn't make you rich. What's the point of having mountains of gold if you are a bigger and you don't have a plumbing system, food or universities (real ones, not the faggotry we have today)Gold has value because it has many uses, if you do nothing with it what's the fucking point, a sandwich has more value.
>>18469358> universitiesMali literally had those, though I'm pretty sure they first appeared due to annexing Timbuktu.
