So how did these states “function” and what’s the primary lesson here?
>>18466970They functioned under a iron but fair fist. At first sight of weakness, issues-a-comin'. The lesson is not to unite states.
>>18466970Comparing either of those to Yugoslavia is incredibly cringe, but you couldn't name why if you tried.Austria-Hungary functioned as a dual Empire and Kingdom, and was a retarded concession made to the Magyars, when they should have just had their teeth kicked in.The Empire (Holy Roman) functioned as an extremely decentralized near-confederation, and was kino and basedpilled.
>>18466970Yugoslavia is what the united states was and is. A tyrannical government ruling over countless ethnicities with an iron fist, eventually the government becomes more lenient, the people inside no longer see themselves as Yugoslavian (or american) civil war and balkanization occurs
>>18466970>A dictatorship kept together by everyone being too exhausted from the last war to start the next>A constitutional monarchy where most people where just too uneducated to revolt>A loose confederation that mostly just didn't function at all
>>18466970>the primary lesson hereIncest is only attractive in fantasy
>>18468043>>18466970>The Empire (Holy Roman) functioned as an extremely decentralized near-confederation, and was kino and basedpilled.The HRE was everything but kino. Just a decentralized patchwerk of smaller states. Which doesn't mean it wasn't successful - quite the opposite. The economy did well.
>>18466970its simple one was lead by one man and an army of 2 nations (it could only fight italians and rebels) the other was a commmune of weak litle states being together to not be eaten up by other big powers and the third is just held together by a strong respected leader and fell apart when its leadr died the leson is dont form a nation out of more than 3 other nations its stupid
>>18468043>was a retarded concession made to the Magyars, when they should have just had their teeth kicked in.The Austrians tried existing without that concession and they got their own teeth kicked in by Germany, France, and It*ly of all things. It was necessary. Either that, or co-opt the Slavs and Romanians, but Hungarians were a larger single group with an actual claim to a historic kingdom. But, that’s kind of disingenuous framing because a Kingdom of Hungary didn’t necessarily mean a magyardom. Hungary was multicultural and accommodating to other groups for most of it’s history. The kingdom only became indistinguishable from greater Magyarorszag after 19th century nationalism.
>>18468191North German Confederate and German Empire were kino
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The Austro-Hungarian Empire had it's own version of nothing ever happens.>The situation is always dire, but never urgent.
>>18468191>efficacy determines kinoAbsolutely not. Kino comes from spiritual virtue, not material success.>not successfulBy what metric? The Empire faced little external threat after the Viking Age and the economy, as you said, flourished. The weakest point of the Empire was its lack of coordination when it faced Napoleon. Let me guess, you think Colonial France was the peak of mankind?
>>18468043>Austria-Hungary functioned as a dual Empire and Kingdom, and was a retarded concession made to the Magyars, when they should have just had their teeth kicked in.Troglodyte tier take, I don't know why you dumbfuck keep repeating it. They tried that in 1848 and they couldn't do it. The Habsburgs had to beg Russia to save their asses. In the next rebellion without a foreign intervention the empire would have imploded, hence they had no other choice but to concede.
>>18468336>The Habsburgs had to beg Russia to save their assesWas helping Russia during Crimean war good idea?
>>18468256For me, the scenario of Hans von Seeckt assuming the chancellorship instead of Adolf Hitler is a classic example of how Germany might have been steered away from ideological fanaticism towards a more calculated and professionally authoritarian path. He was known as the "Sphinx" of the Reichswehr, a figure characterized by his commitment to order, his keen intellect, and his profound Prussian values. His leadership would likely have resulted in a Germany quite distinct from the Third Reich, perhaps resembling models such as Francoist Spain, Kemalist Turkey, or Vichy France.
>>18468436Hold on, did Seeckt ever even consider that? He doesn't seem the type.
>>18468442He was secretly pro-Kaiser (semi- constitutional monarchist), kinda the type
>>18468256Anyone with a brain should reject nazism because it was an economic failure that forced Germany to go to war and continuously annex and loot more productive European territories just to survive. It was a literal ponzi scheme.
>>18468750I just don’t want to live around brown people. What political philosophy is that?
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>>18468756That's just right wing without being a nazi.
>>18468756Racist libertarian
>>18468756Aestheticist
