Was it autism? Same goes for their comically large experimental tank and any of their Wunderwaffen
No, it was copium and delusions of grandeur. All fascist regimes do this btw
>>18469349>>18469352It was a siege weapon, same as the railroad cannons used by the Americans, the Brits and the French. The Nazis figured they would have to smash through the fortress belt of France and Belgium, so they got the guns that could do the job.Missile tech wasn't there yet, aerial bombing was primitive and autonomous guidance systems were less reliable than ballistic calculations for artillery, so they put warship cannons on the only system that could reliably haul them inland.They didn't use them because they were good but because they were the best system they could get for the job.
>>18469356So it was a plan b in case literally just going around didn't work out?
>>18469365It was the plan A until they figured that paratrooper and gliders could probably deal with the Belgian fortresses and they took the gamble of routing their armies through the Adrennes.
Rail cannons were WWI tech and at one point the Germans got close enough to Paris to shell the city with one. I’ve seen photos of postwar captured rail guns on a U.S. base. I’d think by WWII they’d be too vulnerable to air attack and even the Nazis weren’t retarded enough to invest heavily in something so archaic. They used what they had on occasion but they weren’t being touted as wunderwaffe.
>>18469349the wunderwaffen in general weren't autism but desperation, the hope that this or that new weapon would be enough to turn the tide and make up for the fact that germany was at war with britan, the soviet union, and america at the same time when it didn't actually have the ability to defeat any of them 1 on 1. This was the same desperation that caused them to cotinually pump out hundreds and hundreds of submarines after 1943, when nearly all of them were sunk on their first voyage with no 0 enemy tonnage sunk, and all hands lost at sea.Go look through the wikipedia articles for german ww2 submarines some time, it's crazy how like 2/3 of them were launched in the last couple years of the war and they accomplished literally nothing.
>>18469349That weapon was an engineering marvel and a testament to German intellectual supremacy. If America had joined the correct side, or at least stayed out of it, then humanity would currently be colonizing the stars instead of wasting our potential on trying to raise up subhumans to human status.
All anons have to agree that the damage PARADOX AND HOI4 have caused to world history and specifically the white washing of nazis is the greatest crime in modern historyYou have adults right now sincerely thinking Hitler was a good guy and the Nazis had wunderwaffe and alien tech and agarth exists and actually Goebbels would have been the gommie leader of Germany and Savinkoc would have been Russia's Hitler and american industrial capabilities were shit and Germany would have won because their industry was just so much better!Fuck Paradox
>>18469349>>18469352>>18469369The railroad gun literally worked and served its purpose. It was able to one-shot the cavaliers of Sevastopol and make it possible to break in using Stormtroopers.It was immune to everything but battleship caliber shells and the Railroad canon solved that problem.Do you guys like not know how WWII even went down?>>18469527>nearly allnearly all? German subs had a positive KDR in tonnage sunk.>2/3 did literally nothingnot even close.
>>18469534>White washingwhat do you mean? The Nazis WERE the good guys.They were fighting a defensive war against the British Empire in defense of their national interests - defending Danzig from the illegal Polish occupation, defending Germany from the parasitic influence of organized jewry which we now today know was much worse than American/Soviet-mediated history let on, and they were objectively speaking the most likely to accept a surrender and to treat a nation that submitted with fairness.>but what aboutPoland did not submit to Germany, Poland had to be forced down.Denmark submitted to Germany, Denmark's occupation was very soft.Contrast this with the Soviets brutalizing everyone friend and foe alike and the Americans allowing jews to carry out White genocide.
>>18469534I remember playing HOI1 as a kid and making a post on the paradox forums asking why when playing as Germany there were no events related to the holocaust where you were given the opportunity to follow the historical route which resulted in diversion of resources and loss of manpower, or you could choose to rethink such policies, which resulted in a major spike of dissent. Similar to what you could do as the soviet union where there were several events about Stalin's red army purges where you could go through with them and lose a lot of generals, or not go through with them and gain dissent. A mod rather rudely responded saying basically that it was outside the scope of the game, that the game was never going to talk about things like that, and then locked the thread.Very weird interaction overall.
>>18469592intentionally starting a world war does not make you the good guys
>>18469592>Denmarks occupation was very soft Ahh, yes, the old ‘rapists are good guys as long as they give the victim that old easy way or hard way option’ argument. Hey. I’ve got an idea. How about just not fanfic gooning to a shitbox tier genocidal mess like Nazi germany. Only tankies get this retarded and revisionist and at least Stalin didn’t start the war and still won it.
>>18469527Wunderwaffen were the only logical choice given Germanys armament industry's inability to replace materiel losses after Barbarossa turned into attrition warfare. The Germans were never able to replace sufficient numbers of destroyed tanks or aircraft so Hitler decided to pivot to making smaller numbers of more powerful/overengineered weapons that would rack up higher kill counts. A lot of people criticize his intervention in the design of the Panther from a medium T34 clone into a heavy tank but Germany wouldn't even have been able to produce large quantities of smaller medium tanks by thar point in the war.
>>18469349Wasn't it built specifically to breach the Maginot Line before the Nazis realized they could simply walk around it? At the end of the day, the Maginot Line still succeeded in at least one of its goals which was to waste Germany's time and money and massive, hard to transport superweapons that never got to see use. In fact the whole thing makes me realize that maybe Nazi Germany really did just suck at tactics
>>18469352>>18469527>>18469787Siege artillery was the exact opposite of wunderwaffen, it was a well thought out and widely used weapon system from the early war that gave Germany a valuable asset for breaking forts.
>>18469423iirc it had 2 permanent AA divisions atatched to it
Karlgerat 600mm and 540mm seige mortar.
>>18470032>At the end of the day, the Maginot Line still succeeded in at least one of its goals which was to waste Germany's time and money and massive, hard to transport superweapons that never got to see useExtreme French cope
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>>18469533Naziboos are hilarious
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>>18469349>Was it autism?yes, same as Maus, or gas chambers (just shoot them ffs)
>>18469349I give the Germans the benefit of the doubt that nobody really understood how mechanized warfare was going to look like. It was still relatively new, not even half a century old. At first glance, it looks like building bigger guns with more fire power would be a sound strategy for victory.
>>18469592Wow so true, I want to work as a slave in a German factory now
>>18469352so it was marketing basically?
>>18470728Railcannons had a point, but where overtaken by air force development and the surprising weakness of the enemy in the west. "Just shoot them" is not that simple at scale. One of course is a lot of bullets that are needed somewhere else, but also killing defenseless prisoners, women and children one by one eats what is left of the soul of even most SS-personnel. Gas chambers were designed to minimize resistence for the victims and bringing the bodies to the crematorium or mass graves was done by prisoners who got extra rations. There are reports on the difficulty of the army and SS when conducting mass executions of partisans etc. So partially autism, but also necessity at scale. as most autism is.The Maus was a bad idea, but the Landcruiser projects were fucking hilariously insane.
>>18469349It helped against Bagration.
>>18470773>Gas chambers were designed to minimize resistence for the victimsthat may have worked at the beginning, but new inmates seeing piles of bodies and no alive people coming out of "showers" certaily had to figure out what was going on immediately. it was german overengineered autism at that point, at least the "shower" part.
>>18470791the point was to sort workers from the new arrivals and bring them into one part of the camp and move the others straight into the gas chambers from the train. the working inmates had no way of warning new arrivals. the people on the trains had no way of seeing who is coming out (or not coming out) of the buildings. and even the people already off the train but in the previous building (for sorting and getting their stuff taken away) did not see what was happening in the building with the deatch chamber.
>>18470797>others straight into the gas chambers from the train.the "shower" capacity was not large enought to gas all selected from every transport. but I do not know if some parts of the camp were dedicated to "non-deloused" to buffer those transports, it is possible.
>>18469349A lot of nazi innovations were adopted by everyone else pretty quickly, like jet planes, assault rifles, rockets, night vision, helicopters. Yes, some of them didn't work out. It's easy to point and laugh at failured innovations when you don't innovate yourself.
>>18470814the train does not arrive and everybody gets out, the train stands for a bit. first group gets out, goes to station 1 "we take your lugagge, here is your receipt", station 2 "sorting", station 3 "additional paperwork" , station 4 "some other bullshit", station 5 "please undress for a quick delousing". then another group as soon as station 1 is empty and I assume some holding area close to the trains for additional buffering.The holocaust museum in LA had a nice diorama on one of the camps.
>>18470773>>18470540>>18470530>>18470526>>18469356They need make more artillery reserves on the eastern fronts instead wasted that and super-heavy tank
>>18469534People changed their minds on Hitler and the NSDAP because of the behavior of jews. Not because of a video game that probably less than 1% of people have ever heard of.
>>18469349The first world war is this like daimonic catastrophe and the second world is a more catastrophic more daimon filled repetition of that earlier action, and most of the individuals taking part in the second are horribly scarred from the first and shell shock and influenza and ptsd and the way in which germany handles that trauma and shell shock is to go to war again and that trauma and dysphoria is made manifest because the second world is more catastrophic and daimon filled then the first as mentioned earlier
