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Why do y'all like the pretend that Native Americans were "primitive" and "uncivilized"?
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>>18471341
>be white
>go to whatever God forsaken hole of hell dark people live
>get eaten by dark skinned cannibal demons

Why does this always happen?
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>>18471341
Weren't Amerindians in the chalcolithic? Why did that guy even change the goalposts?
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>>18471341
>>18471349
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>>18471341
Because they were primitive, literally didn't even reach the bronze age
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>>18471341
If they weren't they wouldn't have lost.
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>>18471341
Metallurgy?
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>>18471375
Meds
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>>18471341
>Agriculture
BC
>Pottery
BC
>Astronomy
BC
>Democratic system
BC
>Trade hub
BC
>Empire (which subjudated the other Native American tribes)
BC

Quite literally everything achieved and lost in Europe and Asia
Missing cannons or any artilerry, advanced metallurgy or lacking superstition to think of Spaniards as Gods. But they had child sacrifice which was perhaps their most modern day invention.
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>>18471349
>be a /pol/tranny
>lack an ethnostate
Why does this always happen?
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>>18471341
they usually fall into two categories nowadays - 1. alcoholics or 2. rich off paleface's money owning casinos.
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>>18471569
very jewish comment. slow news day in Tel Aviv I assume?
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>>18471341
they lost lmao
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>>18471576
/pol/tranny cope
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>>18471585
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>agriculture and plant domestication
>pottery
Stone age technologies, not refuting anything.
>confederacy, complex democratic system
Making a LOT of assumptions about how this worked, but even this is still within bounds of being stone age.
>astronomy and accurate solar calendars
Only truly impressive thing they had.
>trade hub
Stone age people traded too.

This guy is a midwit who doesn't understand what "stone age" means. He could have just said "Mayans and Incans had simple metal-working technology, technically not stone age"
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>>18471569
Your christovagina blog is retarded
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There was no Mayan empire, they were a collection of small kingdoms and city states, he's thinking of the Aztec Empire. And if his plan is to refute the claim that they were stone age people why didn't be bring up the fact that they had metalworking?

Also kill people who repost reddit memes
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It's pretty crazy how people still don't understand what the word Neolithic means.

Yes, you can have agriculture with plant AND animal domestication, ceramics (which are as old as the paleolithic in Europe at least, where the oldest ceramics are found), astronomical knowledge (stonehenge and other megalithic sites) and still be in the literal stone age.

You can even have cities and complex social hierarchy, and still be in the stone age.
Many such cases.
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>>18471341
Why yes, the mayans were clearly neolithic
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>>18471341
desu, aren't those different native americans , as far as I know americans only cared about the ones that they are responsible off.
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I am sympathetic to the spirit of OP's pic, but they picked bad examples

>>18471358
>>18471385
>>18471565
>>18471809
The Mesoamericans and Andeans smelted bronze (also for >>18471445, much of the rest of what's now Latin America had gold, silver, and copper metallurgy, and the Great Lakes region cold worked copper)

Can't comment on it in depth for the Andes, but in Mesoamerica, copper/bronze was used not just for ceremonial and decorative items but also for some tools (such as hatchets adzes, fishhooks, sewing needles, burrins/styluses etc), and there are accounts which describe copper or bronze weapons, namely metal axes being used by the Huastec(?) and maybe the Mixtec, as well as morning-star like maces with metal spikes/tips used by the Purepecha

This: forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/119652/ is a great overview about Aztec bronze metallurgy, tho it dismisses those examples of metal weapons I mentioned, for various reasons I don't agree with but can clarify on

Also, for you all and >>18471616 & >>18471779 , Stone/Chalcolithic/Bronze/Iron ages aren't even a real thing: They were just ways for 19th century museums to sort their artifact collections from Europe and the Near East before they had proper dating methods, it was never intended to be a set of stages all societies progress through linearly

The Mesoamericans are an excellent example of why using that way is dumb, as as Teotihuacan (pic) rivaled large Roman cities of the time despite it predating ANY metallurgy in Mesoamerica, while on the flip side there are some African societies that smelted steel without ever touching Bronze and still lived in simple villages.

>superstition to think of Spaniards as Gods
This is probably a misconception, the accounts which claim this are recorded decades after the fact and are suspect. At the very least we know that Cortes for sure was not mistaken as a god by Moctezuma II, contrary to latter accounts asserting it, as Cortes's own letters dispute it

1/?
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>>18471859
>Stone/Chalcolithic/Bronze/Iron ages aren't even a real thing

They are though.
It's like saying "industrialization" or the "internet" isn't even a real thing simply because windmills and the postal service exist.

Technological process doesn't really happen gradually. There are breakthroughs that happen which effectively demarcate eras, recognizably.
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>>18471349
skill issue
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>>18471341
>injuns where I live getting to claim achievements of incans and mayans

That's like giving Russia credit for the Pyramids
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>>18471341
this is funny because it represents natives as shat diapers hahaha :p
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>>18471859
>>18471358
>>18471385
>>18471565
>>18471809
>>18471779
>>18471616
Cont:

>Only truly impressive thing they had

Hardly.

There's tons of examples to give, but to keep it (relatively) short, I'll limit myself to the 3 most impressive areas of achievement I think the Mesoamericans had:

>First, their cities exceeded the size of Eurasian "Bronze age" cities and rivaled Classical and Medieval European cities in size, even before the Mesoamericans got any sort of metallurgy. Notable examples include Tenochtitlan (~200k people), Teotihuacan (100k, not counting extended suburbs), Angamuco (100k+, with extended suburbs I think?), Cantona (90k+, I assume including extended suburbs), Tula (60k, unsure how it handles extended suburbs) Tikal (40k+, 75k+ as a megalopolis), Caracol (60k with extended suburbs IIIRC?), Cholula (40k, 80k with extended suburbs), Tlaxcala (36k, unsure how it handles extended suburbs), Tzintzuntzan (30k, unsure how it handles extended suburbs), Texcoco (24k, 60k with extended suburbs IIRC?), and other cities like Calakmul, El Mirador, Chichen Itza etc also had populations within these ranges. As evidence for some of the figures see >>>/tg/98031061 and pic related

>Second, Mesoamerican hydraulic engineering was very impressive, with some notable examples being 5+ mile long aqueducts, switching mechanisms for them/channels, giant reservoirs that could hold dozens of millions of gallons of water, filter systems, toilets, drainage pipes, pressurized fountains, massive 16km+ long dams and dikes, and in a number of cases cities had dozens of such systems networked together over much of the city center or beyond. For some specific sites, see here: desuarchive.org/his/thread/17713702/#17720077 and the rest of my posts in that thread, and here: desuarchive.org/k/thread/39546199/#39562213 and the next few posts after which talk about Palenque, Tikal etc. Note more shit about Tikal's waterworks was discovered since I posted all that.

2/?
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>>18471595
The difference is Europeans actually conquered America and Jews just blackmailed a bunch of corrupt fags in the government to let Rasheesh and Abdul through customs. Literally didn't conquer shit, they're being used as a biological weapon
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>>18471341
What a load of bullshit
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>>18472205
>used as a biological weapon
That's funny because euroshits were such subhuman streetshitters back then that they were quite literally walking biological weapons against native americans, also there's no rules in any conquest faggot, jews own your race and browns will replace every white country, I just wish white genocide was actually real
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>>18471859
>>18472195
He's big mad
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>>18472562
>posts a thumbnail for ants
Retard
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>>18472562
You're big stupid for saving the thumbnail.
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>>18472570
>>18472581
gish gallopers are unworthy of pixels
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>>18472497
Native cuckies died out because they never domesticated animals lol. Closest you had was dogs which they literally inherehted from their asian ancestors when they walked over the land bridge.
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>>18471341
When people say 'Native Americans' they are invariably referring to the inhabitants of what is now the United States. Those people were, demonstrably, much less advanced than both contemporary Europeans and their own neighbours to the south in Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Peru, etc.

Also, the Iroquois were an incredibly violent tribe and it is their behaviour that coloured perceptions of Native Americans collectively for many generations.
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>>18471341
The injuns wouldve been wiped out by anyone who had found them. The Chinese would ve killed them if they found the Americas first. The Muslims would’ve killed them if they had found the Americas first. If Africans could have reached them they would’ve killed them if they found the Americas first.

The only timeline that doesn't result in total native death is if they were the technologically superior ones, which in that case they would've genocided the Asians, Arabs, Africans, Europeans, etc instead after being the ones to make contact. But they werent, and the most wealthy most advanced indigenous tribe still lacked steel and guns.
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>>18472589
And what's worse is that North America had native horses and camels. Indians ate them to extinction because they didn't bother to imagine anything beyond their next meal
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>>18472589
>>18472595
natives domesticated llamas, alpacas, turkeys, guinea pigs, ducks
meanwhile all of the domesticated animals in europe came from the middle east just like all the crops and just like european civilization is a copy of brown MENA civilizations
Also the Botai culture that domesticated horses were brown Asians that were ironically more genetically related to native americans than euroshits
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>>18472643
>natives domesticated llamas, alpacas, turkeys, guinea pigs, ducks
Worse even than Africans, they got cattle

"oi that would have required finding bison"
yes they lacked ambition and the explorer spirit
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>>18472658
>Worse even than Africans, they got cattle
so Africans domesticated one thing more than europeans, who literally didn't domesticate shit
eurotroons = abos confirmed
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>>18471341
What level of metallurgy did Native North Americans have before Columbus arrived?
Copper age? Bronze age? Iron age?
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>>18471859
>This: forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/119652/ is a great overview about Aztec bronze metallurgy, tho it dismisses those examples of metal weapons I mentioned, for various reasons
Your only source is an obscure forum and even THAT disagrees with you kek
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>>18472660
>He says speaking the white man's language and on the white man's internet
Everytime you post, you BTFO yourself. Now take some of the white man's meds and you stop sperging
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>>18472858
writing is a brown invention
math is a brown invention
the numbers is your post were invented by browns
whites are a race of infertile cucks that will go extinct soon and be replaced by browns and there's nothing you can do about it :)
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>>18472889
Clozapine is a white man invention that you should take to soothe your brown mind ;D
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>>18472902
is that the name of your tranny pills?
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>>18472909
>Doesn't know basic schizo meds
>Doesn't even know how to look it up
Put the cow poo down. It is not for eating and it will not treat your obviously abherrant mind
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>>18472660
I never said a word about Europeans, I'm criticizing American Indians
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>>18472497
>I just wish white genocide was actually real
Edgy boy.
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>>18472946
Your race didn't domesticate animals independently or even crops for that matter and didn't kickstart civilization independently unlike native americans, glass houses, stones, etc
>>18473336
snowtranny genocide is based doe, they don't even breed anymore lol
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>>18473495
obsessed

and for good reason too
sad really
just sad
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>>18473336
>racism is bad now that I'm on the receiving end of it
Many such cases with /pol/trannies.
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>>18471341
Curious choice to portray native american achievements as shitty smelly diapers.
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>>18473511
You never thought racism was bad either, you just hated Whites. I'm glad that you're finally going mask-off now. Waayyy too many Whites got lulled in with that fake race-blindness kumbaya stuff over the past few decades, and have been suffering miserably for it. Please be as racist against them as you can.
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>>18471341
because they were nogunz and got btfoed by the most retarded countries in europe
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>>18473545
>2 more weeks until we become Nazi and start killing niggers
Nah you'll just keep posting on /pol/ til you're 45 and realize you wasted your youth.
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>we have westerners unironically beliving we wuz kangs n shieet
i expect this from /pol/ but here holy fuck its simple as if browns were so advanced theyd be like wakanda theres a reason why people arent sellin their anus to get i to africa or anywhere in the middle east
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>>18473715
Keep epic owning that strawman, lil guy. You've got him on the ropes.



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