Why do y'all like the pretend that Native Americans were "primitive" and "uncivilized"?
>>18471341>be white>go to whatever God forsaken hole of hell dark people live>get eaten by dark skinned cannibal demonsWhy does this always happen?
>>18471341Weren't Amerindians in the chalcolithic? Why did that guy even change the goalposts?
>>18471341>>18471349
>>18471341Because they were primitive, literally didn't even reach the bronze age
>>18471341If they weren't they wouldn't have lost.
>>18471341Metallurgy?
>>18471375Meds
>>18471341>AgricultureBC>PotteryBC>AstronomyBC>Democratic systemBC>Trade hubBC>Empire (which subjudated the other Native American tribes)BCQuite literally everything achieved and lost in Europe and AsiaMissing cannons or any artilerry, advanced metallurgy or lacking superstition to think of Spaniards as Gods. But they had child sacrifice which was perhaps their most modern day invention.
>>18471349>be a /pol/tranny>lack an ethnostateWhy does this always happen?
>>18471341they usually fall into two categories nowadays - 1. alcoholics or 2. rich off paleface's money owning casinos.
>>18471569very jewish comment. slow news day in Tel Aviv I assume?
>>18471341they lost lmao
>>18471576/pol/tranny cope
>>18471585
>agriculture and plant domestication>potteryStone age technologies, not refuting anything.>confederacy, complex democratic systemMaking a LOT of assumptions about how this worked, but even this is still within bounds of being stone age.>astronomy and accurate solar calendarsOnly truly impressive thing they had.>trade hubStone age people traded too.This guy is a midwit who doesn't understand what "stone age" means. He could have just said "Mayans and Incans had simple metal-working technology, technically not stone age"
>>18471569Your christovagina blog is retarded
There was no Mayan empire, they were a collection of small kingdoms and city states, he's thinking of the Aztec Empire. And if his plan is to refute the claim that they were stone age people why didn't be bring up the fact that they had metalworking?Also kill people who repost reddit memes
It's pretty crazy how people still don't understand what the word Neolithic means.Yes, you can have agriculture with plant AND animal domestication, ceramics (which are as old as the paleolithic in Europe at least, where the oldest ceramics are found), astronomical knowledge (stonehenge and other megalithic sites) and still be in the literal stone age.You can even have cities and complex social hierarchy, and still be in the stone age. Many such cases.
>>18471341Why yes, the mayans were clearly neolithic
>>18471341desu, aren't those different native americans , as far as I know americans only cared about the ones that they are responsible off.
I am sympathetic to the spirit of OP's pic, but they picked bad examples>>18471358>>18471385>>18471565>>18471809The Mesoamericans and Andeans smelted bronze (also for >>18471445, much of the rest of what's now Latin America had gold, silver, and copper metallurgy, and the Great Lakes region cold worked copper)Can't comment on it in depth for the Andes, but in Mesoamerica, copper/bronze was used not just for ceremonial and decorative items but also for some tools (such as hatchets adzes, fishhooks, sewing needles, burrins/styluses etc), and there are accounts which describe copper or bronze weapons, namely metal axes being used by the Huastec(?) and maybe the Mixtec, as well as morning-star like maces with metal spikes/tips used by the PurepechaThis: forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/119652/ is a great overview about Aztec bronze metallurgy, tho it dismisses those examples of metal weapons I mentioned, for various reasons I don't agree with but can clarify onAlso, for you all and >>18471616 & >>18471779 , Stone/Chalcolithic/Bronze/Iron ages aren't even a real thing: They were just ways for 19th century museums to sort their artifact collections from Europe and the Near East before they had proper dating methods, it was never intended to be a set of stages all societies progress through linearlyThe Mesoamericans are an excellent example of why using that way is dumb, as as Teotihuacan (pic) rivaled large Roman cities of the time despite it predating ANY metallurgy in Mesoamerica, while on the flip side there are some African societies that smelted steel without ever touching Bronze and still lived in simple villages.>superstition to think of Spaniards as GodsThis is probably a misconception, the accounts which claim this are recorded decades after the fact and are suspect. At the very least we know that Cortes for sure was not mistaken as a god by Moctezuma II, contrary to latter accounts asserting it, as Cortes's own letters dispute it1/?
>>18471859>Stone/Chalcolithic/Bronze/Iron ages aren't even a real thingThey are though.It's like saying "industrialization" or the "internet" isn't even a real thing simply because windmills and the postal service exist.Technological process doesn't really happen gradually. There are breakthroughs that happen which effectively demarcate eras, recognizably.
>>18471349skill issue
>>18471341>injuns where I live getting to claim achievements of incans and mayansThat's like giving Russia credit for the Pyramids
>>18471341this is funny because it represents natives as shat diapers hahaha :p
>>18471859>>18471358>>18471385>>18471565>>18471809>>18471779>>18471616Cont:>Only truly impressive thing they hadHardly.There's tons of examples to give, but to keep it (relatively) short, I'll limit myself to the 3 most impressive areas of achievement I think the Mesoamericans had: >First, their cities exceeded the size of Eurasian "Bronze age" cities and rivaled Classical and Medieval European cities in size, even before the Mesoamericans got any sort of metallurgy. Notable examples include Tenochtitlan (~200k people), Teotihuacan (100k, not counting extended suburbs), Angamuco (100k+, with extended suburbs I think?), Cantona (90k+, I assume including extended suburbs), Tula (60k, unsure how it handles extended suburbs) Tikal (40k+, 75k+ as a megalopolis), Caracol (60k with extended suburbs IIIRC?), Cholula (40k, 80k with extended suburbs), Tlaxcala (36k, unsure how it handles extended suburbs), Tzintzuntzan (30k, unsure how it handles extended suburbs), Texcoco (24k, 60k with extended suburbs IIRC?), and other cities like Calakmul, El Mirador, Chichen Itza etc also had populations within these ranges. As evidence for some of the figures see >>>/tg/98031061 and pic related>Second, Mesoamerican hydraulic engineering was very impressive, with some notable examples being 5+ mile long aqueducts, switching mechanisms for them/channels, giant reservoirs that could hold dozens of millions of gallons of water, filter systems, toilets, drainage pipes, pressurized fountains, massive 16km+ long dams and dikes, and in a number of cases cities had dozens of such systems networked together over much of the city center or beyond. For some specific sites, see here: desuarchive.org/his/thread/17713702/#17720077 and the rest of my posts in that thread, and here: desuarchive.org/k/thread/39546199/#39562213 and the next few posts after which talk about Palenque, Tikal etc. Note more shit about Tikal's waterworks was discovered since I posted all that.2/?
>>18471595The difference is Europeans actually conquered America and Jews just blackmailed a bunch of corrupt fags in the government to let Rasheesh and Abdul through customs. Literally didn't conquer shit, they're being used as a biological weapon
>>18471341What a load of bullshit
>>18472205>used as a biological weaponThat's funny because euroshits were such subhuman streetshitters back then that they were quite literally walking biological weapons against native americans, also there's no rules in any conquest faggot, jews own your race and browns will replace every white country, I just wish white genocide was actually real
>>18471859>>18472195He's big mad
>>18472562>posts a thumbnail for antsRetard
>>18472562You're big stupid for saving the thumbnail.
>>18472570>>18472581gish gallopers are unworthy of pixels
>>18472497Native cuckies died out because they never domesticated animals lol. Closest you had was dogs which they literally inherehted from their asian ancestors when they walked over the land bridge.
>>18471341When people say 'Native Americans' they are invariably referring to the inhabitants of what is now the United States. Those people were, demonstrably, much less advanced than both contemporary Europeans and their own neighbours to the south in Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Peru, etc.Also, the Iroquois were an incredibly violent tribe and it is their behaviour that coloured perceptions of Native Americans collectively for many generations.
>>18471341The injuns wouldve been wiped out by anyone who had found them. The Chinese would ve killed them if they found the Americas first. The Muslims would’ve killed them if they had found the Americas first. If Africans could have reached them they would’ve killed them if they found the Americas first.The only timeline that doesn't result in total native death is if they were the technologically superior ones, which in that case they would've genocided the Asians, Arabs, Africans, Europeans, etc instead after being the ones to make contact. But they werent, and the most wealthy most advanced indigenous tribe still lacked steel and guns.
>>18472589And what's worse is that North America had native horses and camels. Indians ate them to extinction because they didn't bother to imagine anything beyond their next meal
>>18472589>>18472595natives domesticated llamas, alpacas, turkeys, guinea pigs, ducksmeanwhile all of the domesticated animals in europe came from the middle east just like all the crops and just like european civilization is a copy of brown MENA civilizationsAlso the Botai culture that domesticated horses were brown Asians that were ironically more genetically related to native americans than euroshits
>>18472643>natives domesticated llamas, alpacas, turkeys, guinea pigs, ducksWorse even than Africans, they got cattle"oi that would have required finding bison" yes they lacked ambition and the explorer spirit
>>18472658>Worse even than Africans, they got cattleso Africans domesticated one thing more than europeans, who literally didn't domesticate shiteurotroons = abos confirmed
>>18471341What level of metallurgy did Native North Americans have before Columbus arrived?Copper age? Bronze age? Iron age?
>>18471859>This: forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/119652/ is a great overview about Aztec bronze metallurgy, tho it dismisses those examples of metal weapons I mentioned, for various reasonsYour only source is an obscure forum and even THAT disagrees with you kek
>>18472660>He says speaking the white man's language and on the white man's internetEverytime you post, you BTFO yourself. Now take some of the white man's meds and you stop sperging
>>18472858writing is a brown inventionmath is a brown inventionthe numbers is your post were invented by brownswhites are a race of infertile cucks that will go extinct soon and be replaced by browns and there's nothing you can do about it :)
>>18472889Clozapine is a white man invention that you should take to soothe your brown mind ;D
>>18472902is that the name of your tranny pills?
>>18472909>Doesn't know basic schizo meds>Doesn't even know how to look it upPut the cow poo down. It is not for eating and it will not treat your obviously abherrant mind
>>18472660I never said a word about Europeans, I'm criticizing American Indians
>>18472497>I just wish white genocide was actually realEdgy boy.
>>18472946Your race didn't domesticate animals independently or even crops for that matter and didn't kickstart civilization independently unlike native americans, glass houses, stones, etc>>18473336snowtranny genocide is based doe, they don't even breed anymore lol
>>18473495obsessedand for good reason toosad reallyjust sad
>>18473336>racism is bad now that I'm on the receiving end of itMany such cases with /pol/trannies.
>>18471341Curious choice to portray native american achievements as shitty smelly diapers.
>>18473511You never thought racism was bad either, you just hated Whites. I'm glad that you're finally going mask-off now. Waayyy too many Whites got lulled in with that fake race-blindness kumbaya stuff over the past few decades, and have been suffering miserably for it. Please be as racist against them as you can.
>>18471341because they were nogunz and got btfoed by the most retarded countries in europe
>>18473545>2 more weeks until we become Nazi and start killing niggersNah you'll just keep posting on /pol/ til you're 45 and realize you wasted your youth.
>we have westerners unironically beliving we wuz kangs n shieeti expect this from /pol/ but here holy fuck its simple as if browns were so advanced theyd be like wakanda theres a reason why people arent sellin their anus to get i to africa or anywhere in the middle east
>>18473715Keep epic owning that strawman, lil guy. You've got him on the ropes.