>Africans sold each other to slavery to the Arabs for centuries before Europeans arrived on the African coast And yet it is white people who are evil for colonialism?
Stop asking questionWhitey bad, simple as
>>18472198Nigga, is that Khoekhoe being pictured? A bit too prognathous, but I see the resemblance. Silly if so.
Colonialism was just rebranded slavery, they even forced comfy self-sufficient farmers to work in the money economy to pay taxes to their exploiters. Plus introducing corvee.
>>18472198That pic only shows how much a total ahistorical retard the creator is. The Cape colony explicitly went out of it's way to fuck over the Khoi through land grabs, violence and slavery.
>>18472193Man, white fragility is a hell of a drug. Colonialism and slavery aren’t the same thing, and even so, white people put them both into practice with a scale and brutality that was unmatched. Congratulations. White people are the best at slavery and colonialism! Winning!
>>18472263based
>>18472193First of all, leftists only seek to subvert white, european culture, so right off the bat they are not acting in good faith. Also, soft bigotry of low expectations dictates that blacks don't know any better, so they can't be held to the same standards as whites.
>>18472303>First of all, leftists only seek to subvert white, european cultureLol>"bigotry of low expectations".That's just bullshit passive aggressive losera say when they want to be racist but are too pussy to be overt about it or just shout nigger in a public environment. No need to demonstrate to the world how much of a total loser you are to recycle talking points from a shitty speech by Bush.
>>18472263Isn't it odd how in America the black population is 15%, but in Arab countries it's 0%?It's almost like it was way worse than American slavery.
>>18472311Or white people just took more slaves and made it impossible to escape or integrate. Are your feelings hurt because you identify with the enslavers?
>>18472316My feelings are hurt because your so stupid. Americans allowed slaves to copulate (ie enjoy the greatest pleasure there is in life), while the Arabs worked them to death or castrated them and you are still making excused for them.
>>18472193>And yet it is white people who are evil for colonialism?yes, because if not for whites, there would be no negroes in Americas
>>18472318That’s a nice fanfic about the Arabs, but white people farming black people like cattle isn’t a point in your favor.
>>18472316Arabs castrated blacks and circumcised black women because they didn't want a single drop of nigger blood contaminating their lands. They buy an African, work him to death, then buy another.
>>18472305tranny breakdown
>>18472230The pic sums up and mocks the ridiculous claim that Subsaharan Africa is poor and primitive because of colonial rule, even though it already was before it even started.As bad as whitey fucked over the local negroes in Cape colony, they were already a bunch of naked retards in huts before white people even arrived, so blaming their civilizational failure on them is ridiculous.
>>18472598Or they just let them convert to Islam and that was it. They’re a huge number of Arabs with black ancestry. The scale and brutality of the white mans trade in his fellow human beings is staggering and unrivaled. Shouldn’t you be proud of that superlative cruelty? It’s still so strange to see someone whine about others recognizing the pinnacle of exploitation that their ancestors reached and still insisting on using slurs. You want to take credit for those acts, and to dehumanize all those people who your ancestors savaged for fun and profit. Something you people are still doing by the way, and yet you clutch the hem of your skirt and wail about Arabs. This is why people sometimes think whites are demons. Actual demons. What else could terrorize so many for so long while claiming they were helping their victims, their victims deserved it, and crying about how mean it is for others to talk about the harm done to their victims? Then to top it off? When some white people say they think this is wrong and should stop? You call them self hating liberals. Is white fragility not even conscious? Some kind of immune response that keeps you from seeing yourself as your victims see you? Winning!
>>18472263So basically, what you're saying is that enslaving and conquering foreign people is okay, but only as long as you're not too efficient and competent at it?
>>18472629So what you’re saying is you don’t understand different degrees of severity?
>>18472638At the end of the day, if the difference is not intent but competency, I don't think the severity can define who is moral or not.Precolonial negroes wiped out entire tribes in their local tribal wars, but as they were never intelligent enough to cross the sea and conquer other continents, this somehow makes them less immoral?Nope, it just makes them less competent at being cunts, just like they are at everything.
>>18472193Ottomans and Arabs practiced Roman-style pre-modern slavery. Euros practiced chattel slavery. The idea that these practices were identical is rightoid punditry and not serious history.>but muh le africans sold their own people into slaverynot in dispute>but arab slavery was also badnot in dispute>but it was the le jews if you really believed this you wouldnt be defending chattel slavery, if this is true than every confederate soldier was a raped goyslave.
>>18472656>slavery? Meh. Chattel slavery? REAL SHITLet's face it, it's not because of "chattel slavery", the reason why American slavery gets so much attention is because it had the element of racism and that's it. Race shapes people's entire conception of themselves which is why it gets so much attention and lives in peopl's heads rent-free. Otherwise nobody cares about slavery. Millions of people are enslaved right now and nobody gives a shit
>>18472664True, chattel slavery wouldn't exist if West Africans looked like Europeans, who were also subject to slave-like conditions of permanent bondage to a master (picrel is a serf collar from scotland in the 1700s). Blacks were branded as slaves by their skin color and could easily be distinguished by it, so a racial caste system developed across the Americas. Transatlantic slavery has cultural purchase because of the precise ways in which reconstruction was implemented in the aftermath of the US civil war. In particular the blacks stayed in America and remained disenfranchised rather than resettled or put on an equal footing with rights either by federally-enforced civil rights or land reform.
>>18472316>white people just took more slaves and made it impossible to escapeWrong on both counts.You're remarkably ignorant and know nothing about this topic beyond the agitation propaganda you've been conditioned with.
>>18472193Whites apologized, Arabs didn’t. If you guys had bragged about it like Arabs no one would care nowadays
>>18472316>Or white people just took more slaves and made it impossible to escape or integrate.Uh?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_people_of_colorhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas
>>18472780>>18472819Grasping at straws for exceptions to the norm doesn’t change the norm. Check out the lifespan of the average sugar plantation slave if you want the norm for the background Dumas came from. Then of course you might ask what happened to his statue.>>18472651>I don’t think the severity can define what is moral or not You’re entitled to your opinion, just, well, let me direct you to every modern legal code. Pushing someone rather than stabbing them. Stealing a candy bar versus stealing a car, etc.
>>18472882>Grasping at straws for exceptions to the norm doesn’t change the normNo shit niggaSlaves escaping slavery has literally always been the exception in every single society that had slavery
>>18472230>the KhoiOh, you mean the people who were genocided by the Bantu?
>>18472316>It was whyte pipos fault!>you're the one who identifies with literally Satan!You are the one engaging in ethno-collective guilt.
>>18472882>Check out the lifespan of the average sugar plantation slaveCompare that to Europeans in the same year.
>>18472947>the people who were genocided by the Bantu?Lmao the Dutch killed the Khoi in two wars and then enslaved their people in top of importing slaves to the cape.
>>18472598>Arabs castrated blacks and circumcised black women because they didn't want a single drop of nigger blood contaminating their lands.They didn't castrate most of them and African ancestry can be documented allover MENA. Why are so many kids/feds so unhinged in this site?
>>18472917Escaping by means of escaping the status. Emancipation being one of the core methods of that in any other system but European chattel slavery in the colonial era. Compare that to the Greek/Roman model for example.>>18472957You’re the one trying to minimize what happened and continues to happen. Maybe stop bombing nonwhites at will?>>18472968European expectancy was five years? That’s what an African got when they went to toil on a sugar plantation.>>18473072It’s because it hurts their feelings to talk about the shitty history of the shitty things they continue to support.
>>18473203>Escaping by means of escaping the status. Emancipation being one of the core methods of that in any other system but European chattel slavery in the colonial era. Compare that to the Greek/Roman model for example.Dude, I perfectly understood what you meant by "escaping", we're discussing social elevation, not running away in the wood.Still, being freed from slavery has ALWAYS been the exception rather than norm in every society that practiced slavery.Yes, even in Rome and Greece the vast majority of slaves died as slaves.Exceptions existed, just like they existed in European chattel slavery.
>>18472193When the Romans sold the Gaul on slave markets were they selling Europeans?No, because back then, similar to back then in Africa- there was no pan-Continental Identity. Only hated tribe next door waiting to be conquered.In any case, no need to angst about this. Benin, the present-day successor to Dahomey, even made any official apology themselves. They were still called Dahomey when the French conquered them. They must have hated their ancestor so much that they changed their name.
>>18472193I mean, so did Europeans. Venetians were infamous for their habit of kidnapping Christian to sell to the muslims.
>>18473265So....when is Benin gonna pay reparations to the blacks of the Americas?
>>18473265They actually renamed it to Benin because it was a geographically neutral name, Dahomey would likely upset all the other ethnic roups unrelated to the kingdom of Dahomey.
>>18473203They averaged 36 years, while Whites averaged 40 years.Today, Whites average 80 years and Blacks average 70 years. Hispanics live longer than Whites.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_health_on_plantations_in_the_United_States
>>18472193Here are related articles:https://web.archive.org/web/20200523100641/http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/colonialism-did-not-make-africa-poor/https://web.archive.org/web/20200516004821/http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/the-wealth-of-colonizers-or-lack-thereof/https://web.archive.org/web/20210421034453/http://thealternativehypothesis.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/AltHypeReader.pdf
>>18472193it’s specifically anglo-dutch slavery that is uniquely evilhispanics were similar to romans that they allowed a chance for emancipation
>>18473356>Left: South America>Right: United States of America
>>18473365Both kind of suck right now desu.
>>18473203>Maybe stop bombing nonwhites at will?You're just rehashing the ethno-collective guilt stuff again. Obviously, I haven't bombed any brown people.
>>18473368>BothOne is a whole lot worse. Stop the cope.
>>18473341>Alternative Hypothesis Holy shit people still shill that total degen's slop?
>>18473258>Still, being freed from slavery has ALWAYS been the exception rather than norm in every society that practiced slavery.Again that's false. Many societies woth slaves had many be freed through various legal processes, work contract or punishment expiring, and more. It wasn't exactly "rare". It wasn a fluid dynamic.
>>18472263Indeed. We ought to be proud of ourselves.
>>18473425>that total degenNot a counter-argument.>slopEven less of a counter-argument.
>>18473068>Lmao"The Bantu expansion[3][4][5] was a major series of prehistoric-migrations of the original Proto-Bantu-speaking group,[6][7] which spread from an original nucleus around West-Central Africa across Central Africa, Eastern Africa, and Southern Africa. In the process, the Proto-Bantu-speaking settlers absorbed, displaced, and possibly in some cases replaced pre-existing hunter-gatherer and pastoralist groups that they encountered."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_expansion"Long taken as slaves by the Bantu tribes that dominate sub-Saharan Africa, Pygmies were also sold to foreign traders for export."https://web.archive.org/web/20250215142510/https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/02/24/pygmies-in-congo-condemned-to-life-on-the-outside/a203a90e-9e7d-4b90-9cb2-70a0f1bbd8c5/
