If the Nazi plan all along was to kill all Jews, why didn't they just shoot them?
>>18473146To keep it under wraps. Most Germans did not know about the holocaust until the war was over. People hated Jews and wanted them gone but most weren't so blatantly bloodthirsty.
>>18473150Man you are so fucking dumb, the british and americans have always been openly bloodthirsty and celebrate killing civilians with the most inhumane methods. Yet for some reason germans were just too noble to murder them quickly and openly?
>>18473162Except they didn't, pajeet.
>>18473146Weren't all the alleged death camps founded by the Red Army?
>>18473146They did have jew hunting death squads in the east.
>>18473146Stop asking antisemitic questions, goy.
>>18473232Yes, the jewish communists are the only ones who found any "evidence" of jews being genocided.
>>18473146They needed the free labor in their munitions factories first
>>18473323Strange
>>18473146Kikes always lie. Also they want to enslave all humans and kill the ones that resist. Humanity is fully justified in exterminating them as an act of self defense.
>>18473323Be that as it may, American films keep showing US troops liberating death camps. What explains this?
>>18473146Actually that's the mainstream "theory" now. It's called "the Holocaust of Bullets". I'm not kidding. They got around glaring issues and physical impossibilities with the gas chamber mass murder theories, and switched to the idea that the Germans really did shoot most of the, buried them in mass graves, then dug them up to incinerate them later.Now for the public, they allow them to generally believe the old narrative. But for the intelligent lay person, they trot out the Bullet Holocaust theory.
>>18473146I am once again begging, BEGGING you fucks to read a book about the holocaust. Walk into Barnes and Noble or Waterstones or whatever and just pick off off the shelf and read it.
>>18473569What physical impossibilities?
>>18473576You name it. Between the "gas chambers" that would not have worked to the Jewish bodies spontaneously combusting to form their own kindling in open air burn pits to the lack of sufficient fuel ever transported in to approach the number of bodies burned to the lack of cremulators to the instantly-vaporizing impossible HCN canisters, so on.
>>18473580Why would the gas chambers have not worked?
>>18473596Can you tell me, in your own words, how you think the gas chambers were constructed, and what mechanism was used to vaporize, deliver, and contain the HCN to a sufficient concentration to kill dozens of adult humans at once?
>>18473598You're the one claiming they wouldn't work. So tell me how they wouldn't work.
>>18473600Explaining in great detail why they would not work is way, way too much information. I need to know first what you have been told about how they worked, so I know what level to approach it at.
>>18473146>why didn't they just shoot them?they did. then the ss troops assigned to shoot the jews started killing themselves because the human mind can't handle murdering dozens of women and children every day
>>18473614>miggers actually believe thislol
>>18473569>mostno it's about 1/4th, then they switched to the gas chambers
>>18473603Lol what a fucking copout.
>>18473975>why didn't they shoot them>they did>MIGGERS!!!!!Fucking deranged.
>>18473569>jews can't be gassed it's physicaly impossibile>jews can't be shoot it's physicaly impossibilemaybe they were the master race after all
I'm convinced that the Jews are behind Holocaust denial threads. The Holocaust is so obvious, so well documented as a historical event, that the only reason to troll history boards with Holocaust denial is to get people to reply and denounce the persecution and genocide of Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. Sympathy for Jews may lead to sympathy for the Jewish state of Israel, and people may find excuses for the Israelis' own oppression of Arabs because "just look at the Holocaust, there are people who still deny it happened". So online Holocaust denial is most likely a Mossad operation. tl;dr don't argue with a Holocaust denier on /his/, he's definitely a Shin Bet agent posting from Tel Aviv
>>18474241That would explain why they're so retarded and reparative. Judea declares war on Germany thread just popped up. Again.
>>18474241Usually if something is illegal to question, that means it's a lie.
>>18473146If I were a Nazi, I would've just push them down the stairs. That way they're very likely to die AND it would look like an accident.
>>18473230>Except they didn't, pajeet.
>>18474271Indeed, which is why the Jews didn't starve and murder 10 million white Christians in The Ukraine.
>>18473975Except these are notes and complains made by SS officers THEMSELVES to higher ups. So your faggot ass can't say "Muh Joos" on this one.
>>18474287Can we see these SS officers complaints?
>>18474284Well hey I'm glad you agree the Holocaust is fake at least. The Jewish people can only start to heal when they give up the most horrible fiction of the 19th century.
>>18474287SS officers complained about 6 million Jews being gassed using self-vaporising rat poison in secret hidden showers? Those documents I GOTTA see.
>>18474293Indeed, whites must also do the same. Noone wants to kill you. Noone has ever tried to kill you. Anyone who said 10 million white Christians were genocide is an illegal liar.
>>18474289>https://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/documents/451134-extract-from-a-speech?“I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people.It is one of those things that is easy to say: ‘The Jewish people is being exterminated,’ every Party member will tell you, ‘that is very clear, it is part of our plans, we are eliminating the Jews, exterminating them, a small matter.’And then they all come along, the upright 80 million Germans, and each one has his decent Jew.Of course, the others are swine, but this one is a first-class Jew.Not one of those who talk this way has witnessed it, not one of them has had to go through with it.Most of you know what it means when 100 corpses lie side by side, or 500 or 1,000.To have stuck it out and at the same time — apart from exceptions caused by human weakness — to have remained decent fellows, that is what has made us hard.”
>>18474294>stormtranny reading comprehension
>>18474298That's not an SS officer complaining his men are killing themselves because it's just too horrible to kill Jews.
>>18474271It's illegal to deliberately deny it in some countries, not to question it, and most countries in the world don't have genocide denial laws, but you already knew that and you're just looking for a place to spam stormtard delusions.
>>18474297White people mostly don't care about that story, and no one devotes part of their identity to it, and no one cries on international tv about "me mum was a lampshade an' me da' was a bar of soap" almost a century after the fact. So yes, if Jews are willing to say "the Holocaust didn't happen" that would be only a good thing.
>>18474307You don't care about Jewish Bolsheviks murdering 10 million white Christians?
>>18474305Yeah his men didn't kill themselves but they did complain. You lost stormtroon stop the cope.
>>18474309Why did you lie that SS officers complained their men were killing themselves >>18473614
>>18474306>its not illegal to question it>you just can't come to any conclusions the government doesn't wantThe fact that the people who control all relevant sites for archaeological and critical investigation are the same ones who will imprison you for drawing the wrong conclusion should really tell you something. If you ever even conclude that less that 6 million Jews died, you go to prison.
>>18474311That wasn't me, it seems I didn't explain what my position was. SS officers complained about their men getting trauma from shooting people. That is my position
>>18474271So Holocaust is real as long as you live in USA (where it's not illegal to say it didn't happen)?
>>18474308No, not really. It's just a story. I certainly wouldn't imprison anyone for denying it. History is a collection of stories. It must always yield to evidence, and if it wants to claim to be what actually ocurred, it must prove itself on an evidentiary basis.
>>18474319>Jews murdering 10 million white Christians is just a storyWow.
>>18474312>If you ever even conclude that less that 6 million Jews died, you go to prison.that's exactly right, that's why the whole Yad Vashem administrative board is in prison since they only have about 4.7 million names in the Hall of Names
>>18474319You know that it's illegal to deny holodomor in Ukraine? According to your logic, holodomor didn't happen and not a single Ukrainian or Russian ever starved or was killed under USSR
>>18474318No, as I said, the peoppe woth control over the essential sites for archaeological and critical investigation all have laws that will see you in prison for drawing any conclusion they don't like. It being not illegal in the US is only because A) different fundamental laws of the land and B) the US has no sites critical to the story.
>>18474312As if "le holocaust didn't happen" isn't a mainstream opinion at this point lol. When will stromniggers realize that holocaust denial isn't some sort of fringe position anymore?
>>18474323This but with the Armenian genocide which happened and also didn't happen depending on the country you're in
>>18474322Yad Vashem has publically stated that 6 million Jews were not killed by Germany in a secret extermination campaign that was hidden from the German public, and primarily used self-vaporising rat poison in secret trick-showers?>>18474323As I said, it usually means it's fake. So it needs to be investigated. I'm neutral on history.
>>18474326why won't you visit the sites and then draw your conclusion after you leave the country in order to not break the law?
>>18474328Fair, times are changing. Eventually the Holocaust will be seen as a weird group-delusion or some form of foundational myth for Jews , like the Exodus story.
>>18474332>Holdomor is fakeWhy did Hitler wanted to destory Bolshevism? It's not like Bolsheviks genocided anyone, was he just a warmonger?
>>18474336Eventually holocaust denial will be the mainstream position and le epick contrarians will start preaching about the crimes of Nazi Germany.
>>18474334Ever heard of Ernst Zundel? David Cole? Go check it out.
>>18474336>saar nazi revolution soon! 2 more weeks
>>18474343Well that's their problem because I'm not a contrarian.
>>18474344some german neonazi who was senteced to being assraped in prison for spreading totalitarian ideas? what about this trash?
>>18474338Because Bolshevism was an enemy ideology. Its not like the US wanted to destroy Communism because they were upset about starved Ukrainians.
You all owe your thanks to Pole Gods for not only causing WW2 (that destoryed nazi trannies) but also exposing nazitrannies crimes to the whole world If not for Pole Gods, nazism would still could be a living ideology
>>18474347Go learn about his case yourself. My point is that people have done that, and are hunted down internationally. David Cole had a bounty put out on his head, even. And hes a Jew himself!
>>18474348why was it an enemy ideology? it's not like they were killing anyone
>>18474351If you break a law then your home country might decide to hunt you down, it's a normal things to deal with criminals like that
>>18474345>Based, the nooticing must continue >Account based in Karachi, Pakistan
>>18474353The question is the legitimacy of such laws, especially over what allegedly happened to a foreign people.>>18474352An enemy of Hitler, and Germany. Politically and ideologically. That's what I said, yes.
>>18474352Because East Europe was perceived as "living space" by the Nazis.
>>18474356but why? Bolsheviks never killed anyone so why hitler wanted to invade them? there has to be a reason, unless he had noone and was just a deranged warmonger who wanted more land
>>18474344>Ernst Zundel? Freed because Holocaust denial was covered by free speech laws in Canada. Then arrested and jailed in Germany because Holocaust denial isn't covered by free speech laws in Germany.>David Cole?Never arrested or jailed for denying the Holocaust. stormfags don't even understand their own points
>>18474357that's what I thoughtsomeone told me that Hitler was a good guy and wanted to save the world because Jewish Bolsheviks were genociding christians in Holodomor but since it's illegal to deny Holodomor in Ukraine then it means it didn't happen, so he was lying
>>18474332>Goalposts moving at light speed
If the american plan was to invade germany why did they leave in 1918? Why didn't they just keep occupying germany so they wouldn't need to do D-Day?
>>18474359I already told you why.>>18474363My point is that the opposite doesn't seem to happen. Are there any cases of a Jew denying the Holodomor, or even denying most of the story, and being hunted down internationally? David Cole's situation I highlighted because he had his life threatened for publically exposing flaws in the story presented at Auschwitz, by organs of the Israeli government. The point behind his case being that certain Jews use the myth of thr Holocaust for their own power.This will be the last reply I'll make to this thread. Though, there will be more holcaust threads again I'm sure.
>>18474379>I already told you why.repeatwhy was Bolshevism an enemy? what was wrong with it for Hitler?
>>18474379Does that mean that neonazis try to use the myth of thr Holodomor for their own power? To frame Bolsheviks as the bad guys of WW2?
>>18474271>>18474284but wait, there's more>As of 2026, several countries—primarily in Eastern Europe and parts of Asia—have banned or severely restricted the propagation of communist ideology, symbols, and political parties. Key examples include Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Czech Republic, Hungary, Georgia, Indonesia, and South Korea.Comunism as a good ideology confirmed? If it was evil, why make laws that forbid saying that it was good?
>>18473162>germans were just too noble to murder them quickly and openly?This is what Nazis actually believe.
>>18474402Communism is based. Communism was always based. It's literally the law.
>>18474402Beating the stormtrannies in their own game
>>18473146but they did. the current score is that only 3 million jews died in the camps, the other 3 million were shot by einsatzgruppen. also, you are an antisemite for asking such questions.
>>18473402>an explanation is needed for american films lying
>>18474298so, you have nothing? also, in before "ausrotten".
>>18473614this was the standard reply to OPs question before Auschwitz got downsized by 3 million jews, who therefore had to get shot by the einsatzgruppen where found.
>>18474466literally gave you the record mate did you even read it?
>>18474405Do they? Who? Where?Are you referring to the Himmler admission at Nuremberg where he said Hitler would have released the prisoners or diverted supplies from the front if he knew about the status of the camps?
>>18474241>well documentedExcept it has no evidence.The holocaust is a complete fiction.The Partisan war theory better explains what we see and it has predictive power, which the holocaust does not.Any threshold of evidence for a modern Western court would find the holocaust does not even have a fraction of the evidence necessary to convict.The holocaust simply did not happne.If you disagree, please prove that gas chambers were used as a method of mass execution using hard material evidence.If you can not do this, I can not trust anything else about the holocaust myth.
>>18474494saar
>>18474385Cleary hitler was just a crazy warmonger since there is no proof on Bolshevik or Jewish genocide against europeans or Polish/Czech genocide aganist Germans
>>18474491bullshit.
>>18473146The holocaust only sounds retarded if you follow a strict intentionalist interpretation of it. If you follow the functionalist interpretation it makes way more sense but that interpretation is also more nuanced and spreads the blame to more people than just le evil nazis so people would much rather prefer the interpretation that Hitler pressed a red button that ordered all Jews to be killed.
>>18474241The reason there is so much Holocaust denial is ironically due to the actions of historians and politicians. 1. Outlawing the denial of the holocaust looks like a concession or abdication of some sort to denialists, that they’re correct and the only reason governments outlaw their speech is because they have no argument against it.2. The way the holocaust is taught and used by historians as a propaganda device for the liberal order makes them say a lot of retarded shit to hype up the holocaust and strip it of all nuance and scrutiny that would be afforded to other historical events. Denialists then use this to their advantage.
>>18474508>he's saying something we don't like, sir!>calm down special agent, just imply he's a jeet. our think tank determined that they really hate that.
>>18473978>stunlocked retard
>>18474696saaar
>>18474696These threads are always created in clusters of 2-3 at the same time, and populated by 3-4 anons who all unanimously agree on something and coordinate to dogpile anons who post in said thread. It feels like some discord group. Really artifical.
