I really don’t get the appeal of Buddhism for homosexuals / atheists. I guess they slot it into their hedonistic worldview by thinking “hey reincarnation sounds sweet! The party never ends!” But the actual teachings of Buddhism are not being reborn ever again.

>>18474745
>atheists. I guess they slot it into their hedonistic worldview by thinking “hey reincarnation sounds sweet!
>the actual teachings of Buddhism are not being reborn ever again.
Weird how you flipped things around here. Not being reborn again is atheism.

>>18474775
Yes but the goal of Buddhism is never being reborn again.

>>18474772
>implying everyone opposed to Christianity is an atheist

>>18474782
Many immoral Westerners turn to Buddhism because it satisfies their religious instinct without forcing them to take accountability beyond meditating and being “mindful.” And no, I’m not talking about actual Buddhism.

>>18474782
This,
I believe in a personal god but I'm quite frankly against any Abrahamic religions as they are life denying

>>18474789
>embracing life is having sterile sex all day and spending most of your time plotting and scheming against other people
nietzsche was a retard and so are you. you are a human and cannot understand yourself outside of the collective. your goals are best met with some self restraint.

>>18474772
Because it has become a New Age "spirituality" and is effortless for the modern Western secular and materialistic (atheistic) mind, nor a quest for the transcendental.

PS: Obviously, Western Buddhism is not particularly faithful to that practiced in the East, so it is clearly a LARP. And I say this as a Christian.

>>18474803
This. Western Buddhism is practiced by white women and atheists who find materialism in its essence monotonous. The same goes for (e)-pagans it's purely aestheticism.

Putting a pagan symbol or a picture of Buddha on a profile gives you an internal feeling of being "spiritual" even if you don't believe in absolutely any of that. The retarded would be surprised at what Buddhists actually believe, lol.

>>18474814
That’s because Buddhism is retarded and nihilistic. It’s the complete and utter surrender of the Indian soul to its brutal conditions.

>>18474789
Buddhism is far more life denying however?

>>18474772
Buddhism doesn't scare you into not doing sin with an ETERNITY of NEVERENDING punishment. Buddhism teaches to not sin by rejecting attachments of the world, so you can end your suffering. It's far from any hedonism, and in fact teaches against it. Hedonism leads to suffering, because life is suffering, and many believe that you'll experience Hell proportionate to your sins for a temporary time before reincarnating. The reason why fags and fedoras prefer it to Christianity is because unlike Christianity, Buddhism doesn't tell them that their choices will lead to an eternal punishment full of suffering. Buddhism tells them that if they're wrong, they'll just go through the same thing every believer and monk who hasn't reached nirvana does, and they can try again in the next life. There's a very big reason, why so many people have been traumatized by Christianity compared to the people who were traumatized by Buddhism.

>>18474796
Big assumptions there brother, I'm actually celibate and love my fellow man
>your goals are best met with some self restraint.
I have big dreams, you wouldn't understand
>>18474847
I'm not Buddhist

>>18474788
>it satisfies their religious instinct without forcing them to take accountability

Sounds more like evangelicalism. Just believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you ca do whatever you want and still go to heaven.

>>18474820
Surrender to conditions would be to give into sensuality. Buddhism teaches you to mentally surmount your conditions.

>>18474914
>I have big dreams, you wouldn't understand
I do understand, and your dreams still require you to have some level of self control so that you don't destroy everything.

>>18474938
?
I don't understand?
Like I will ape out or something if I don't have self control? Isn't that for most people so I don't understand how thats a personal critic, also I have a strong will.

>>18474915
If you reduce any mainstream religion to how it's practically followed by low iq people that don't have the capability to critically analyze it you'll get exactly what you're describing yes. The difference with Buddhism is that it actively affirms that you have unlimited chances. It speaks volumes that homosexual athiests would take literally any punishment as long as they can keep taking penis up their poo poo hole as long as it's not "eternal"

Most religions are about coping with the fear of death by denying its existence. Buddhism is about coping with death by saying it's a good thing actually. Atheism with extra steps.

>>18474968
They're more scared of repenting of buttsex than 99999999999999999 years in exotic kawaii hell

>>18474968
Why do you find that so abhorrent?

>>18475003
You're closer to a feral animal than a human if you can't see why that's such a disgusting and evil way to live and think.

>>18475008
Why are so many pastors arrested for sex abuse?

>>18475013
Most pastors know they're lying and do it for money and power over other people. They can't be trusted.

>>18474907
> Buddhism doesn't tell them that their choices will lead to an eternal punishment full of suffering.

Yes, actually it does. In Buddhism, you’ve already failed, and are already in hell. It’s incredibly life denying.

>>18475013
How is that related to what that anon posted? Why are atheists so dishonest and pathetic?

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>>18475008
>two consenting male humans have sexual intercourse, which involves inserting one's phallus into another's anus
>this makes you a feral animal and a blasphemous creature in the eyes of God

>two consenting humans of both sexes have sexual intercourse, where the male will enter his penis into woman's poo poo hole
>a problem does not even exist

>>18475041
Why can't you guys just have some decency? You run away from God into the arms of a Hindu charlatan just because you want to fuck another man in his anus. That's disgusting.

>>18474782
I included homosexuals as well

>>18475043
You don't get to ask the questions here. Why do you find benis in anus disgusting? Why does it warrant an eternal punishment, when two consenting adult men put their peepee into each other's holes?

>>18475055
Stick your finger in your butthole right now, and then pull it out and lick it. If you don't find the very thought disgusting, then you are a wild animal.

>>18475041
morality isn't math. do you really think you're the first person to notice that a dogmatic system has dogmas? every part of your own statement is so unintentionally full of Christian logic and heritage . but you want a penis in your poo poo hole so much that you make the fact that you can't do it the point that you want to bring down the whole system on

>>18475057
Granted, I don't have a scat fetish, and I find the idea of eating poo disgusting. But as far as I know, most faggots don't have a scat fetish, and usually try to wash themselves as much as possible, and don't consume feces. And how is it more disgusting when opposed to sticking a finger up a woman's butt or vagina, when those two are still used to excrete feces and urinal? And what if the two faggots do not even have anal intercourse, when they have sex? And in the first place, how does eating poo warrant an eternal punishment?

>>18475041
Well obviously they aren't wrong because you don't have a strong emotional reaction to them. at least we all have a strong angry reaction to rape so we know that's wrong. In fact, I have a way yo streamline it, why don't we say whatever makes an individual person angry is wrong to them?

>>18475067
I do not get what you're getting at here. Could you be a bit more clear?

>>18475092
The two consenting adults meme completely fails as a moral model because you can't define why consent is important. If a woman kills her baby and nobody knew the baby existed would that be wrong? There's no net consequence to anything outside the relationship between the mother and the baby and yet you know it's an abhorent crime. You want all the benefits of assuming human dignity and a right to live and be to be respected but cannot articulate why other than it's the social consensus, in which case there really isn't anything wrong with a mother killing her baby unless the broader society finds out she did it.

>>18475072
Gays are aroused by the scent of feces. It's not even about them meriting eternal punishment, only that they deny Christianity for Buddhism because they don't want to face the consequences of their actions. They put praxis over theory.

>>18475102
I never got into the kink of fucking or playing with shit. Always thought it was nasty. But I must say that I recently was rimming a young bottoms ass, who apparently wasn’t as clean as he said, or thought he was. I experienced a sweet taste like a type of Hershy’s Kiss on the tip of my tongue , and immediately backed off a little nervous about the discovery. But I didn’t say anything. Instead , I decided to taste it again and when I pushed my tongue back deep in that ass I could certainly distinguish the taste now. And guess what …. i couldn’t believe it but I didn’t mind it. On the contrary, I started to taste it more and more and started to actually love it. The next thing I knew is that I couldn’t stop eating that dirty ass. And I really only stopped to fuck him hard. That same weekend, something else happened. I for some reason started watching rim job videos, couldn’t stop watching and remembering the taste of that sweet ass. Then all of a sudden, the site started showing scat rim jobs , which I decided to see for the first time ever. And after a few o those, there was a video showing a couple doing Scat Kissing. Fuck - I don’t know what that triggered in me, but I know think that “scat kissing” it’s the hottest stuff ever !! I can’t stop watching those vids over and over. And I guess I am now hypnotized with this new fetish! I haven’t done it , but I certainly look forward to meet an open minded dude, perhaps even experienced in the practice of scat, and willing to kiss me after. Lol. As I said, I would have never expected this to happen to me, but I can’t help thinking about my first scat and kiss job. I certainly wish it can happen soon!

>>18475096
A mother killing her baby is obviously abhorrent due to it involving active harm and murder of a living person. Two consenting men involved in sexual intercourse involves no active harm to either of them, nor to anybody else for the matter. A very clear moral crime has happened in the first example, but not in the second. This is a false equivalency, unless one of the fags was secretly harming the other.

>>18475106
They are literally fucking each other in the anus. That's doing harm. If I shoved a dildo up your asshole you'd call it assault.

>>18475106
>unless one of the fags was secretly harming the other.
Which they often are, it's well documented they intentionally spread terrible diseases and often just can't restrain themselves and "forget" to tell their sexual partner. But I know your two consenting adults example involves what is probably a statistical minority of gay encounters.
Do you think harm to a person is only harm when they acknowledge it as harm, or is it still really harm if they're brainwashed and consent to something that is in fact bad for them? I assume you think consensual euthanasia is OK although I could be wrong. You still haven't said why consent is important.

>>18475112
>They are literally fucking each other in the anus.
Literally what is the harm being done here? Millions of heterosexual men and women literally do the same.
>If I shoved a dildo up your asshole you'd call it assault.
Because I didn't give you a permission to. It's the same reason women call it assault, when you shove your penis up their ass without their consent. It's still a false equivalency.

>>18475119
>Literally what is the harm being done here? Millions of heterosexual men and women literally do the same.
Why are you trying to make an excuse? We're talking about homosexuals hating God and fleeing to degenerate oriental religions like Buddhism. This is irrelevant.
>Because I didn't give you a permission to. It's the same reason women call it assault, when you shove your penis up their ass without their consent. It's still a false equivalency.
No, it isn't. Even if you asked me to you'd be angry because it'd hurt. You still haven't fingered your butthole and licked the poop off like a faggot would. You know it's gross.

>>18475119
>Because I didn't give you a permission to.
And yet the result is still you getting a dildo shoved up your ass whether you consented or not. But because YOU choose to allow it it's moral, so really morality is the things anon is happy to have happen to him. That's great but it's not actually what morality is

>>18475041
Did you forget women have an actual hole meant to take a man's penis?

>>18475128
Homosexuals have had their intellects darkened because God is punishing them. No, he totally forgot woman have delicious juicy pussies to creampie and fertilize.

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>>18475117
>You still haven't said why consent is important.
Because it means that the person has given his permission to do something with the other person. When it comes to sexual intercourse, it's a permission to have sex with them. The same reason why it's assault, when the woman hasn't given her consent to be penetrated, it's assault when a man hasn't given his consent.
>Do you think harm to a person is only harm when they acknowledge it as harm, or is it still really harm if they're brainwashed and consent to something that is in fact bad for them?
Your argument relies entirely on homosexual intercourse being inherently harmful by its very nature. In the context of intentionally spreading terrible diseases, it would be harmful, just as it would be for a heterosexual to do so to his or her partner. However, as you rightfully saw, my example involves fags, where no direct or indirect bodily harm is being done. And moreover, consensual euthanasia is once again a false equivalency, as it involves ending a person's life. This is pretty much where you lose the debate, my friend, as homosexual intercourse is not inherently any more or less harmful than heterosexual intercourse.

>>18475123
>We're talking about homosexuals hating God and fleeing to degenerate oriental religions like Buddhism. This is irrelevant.
Your entire point is relying on homosexual intercourse being inherently more harmful than heterosexual intercourse, which is why it warrants eternal punishment, even though we've established that by it's inherent nature it's no more or less harmful than heterosexual sex. Unfortunately you too have lost the debate, my friend.

>>18475128
I see, so it's not gay sex, but anal sex in general is an immoral act that warrants eternal punishment? So two fags having sex not involving anal penetration will not get you condemned to eternal torture? Good news, indeed!

>>18475164
>Your entire point is relying on homosexual intercourse being inherently more harmful than heterosexual intercourse, which is why it warrants eternal punishment, even though we've established that by it's inherent nature it's no more or less harmful than heterosexual sex. Unfortunately you too have lost the debate, my friend.
I never said anything about eternal punishment. I'm saying that homosexuals are the ones who have abandoned Christianity because they are addicted to fucking each other in the anus.

>>18474745
>panadura
>pan duro
>hard bread
at last i see

>>18475164
>I see, so it's not gay sex, but anal sex in general is an immoral act that warrants eternal punishment?
Sodomy is bad, mmkay?
>So two fags having sex not involving anal penetration will not get you condemned to eternal torture?
How would that even look like? Blowjobs and mutual masturbation at most? Also regardless, its clear you are not supposed to lay with another man in the same way you would with a woman.

>>18474820
It's more popular outside of india, though.

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>>18475067
>morality isn't math

>>18475096
>babies can and do consent to being killed

>>18474975
Everything is LE COPE to you retards, isn't it?

>>18475041
Enjoy AIDS, reprobate.

>thread about Buddhism turns to fundamentalist Christians and western "atheists" fighting with each about gay sex
Another piece of evidence that anatman is contrary to the dharma. It's a philosophy that only breeds chaos. Sanatana Dharma persists

>>18475282
jai shiva jai rudra

>>18475282
You. Smell. Like. Feces. Enjoy hell!

>>18475037
Nope, you know nothing about Buddhism yet feel the need to post "Buddhism is X" "Buddhism is Y" in order to vomit out what you think is "intellectual" when in fact its just head cannons you made up. Samsara isn't hell, though it has hellish experiences, similar to how Christians believe how the world is flawed. The goals is to now liberate yourself from it and Buddhism isn't "life denying", Buddha initially starved himself and refused to contact with society but after that, he renounced such acts and returned back to society and proposed the "middle way". It is through the "middle way" that he achieved Nirvana.

>>18475102
>Gays are aroused by the scent of feces.
How do you know this anon?

>>18475500
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>>18475502
>Copy pasta proves all gays are into scat

>>18475515
There are countless examples of their fascination with poop. I honestly wish I hadn’t seen it. They are subhumans. I even heard the testimony of an African academic who said they get high on drugs and fist each other and eat the poopoo and rub it all over themselves.

>>18475503
How you know I’m Dominican, papi? That kind of prescience won’t save you from hellfire you stupid white sodomite.

>>18475520
>/pol/troon head canon
Pretty sure there are more hetero people into scat then faggots. You couldn't prove homosexuality directly being disgusting so you changed the goal post to all homosexuals enjoying scat.

>>18475532
You are addicted to poop and will burn in hell.

>>18475537
Neither of those things are true

>>18475541
If I get repeating digits then you are correct. But seeing as you are not, I also will not.

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>>18475532
>an entire sexual identity pridefully (their word) based around the shit-oriface
>NnnNNoooOo It'S not diSgUstiNG!

>>18475578
They are obsessed with anuses and poop and try to dignify it. They'll get what they want when demons shove a pitchfork up their asses in hell for all eternity.

Are you sodomy-obsessed freaks still going?

>>18475611
You fuck men in their anuses. You're the freak here.

>>18475578
Do you condemn Heterosexual Anal sex?

>>18475683
There is nothing in the Bible condemning a man fucking his wife in the ass. God hates faggots. Simple as that.

>>18475128
>>18475130
And stinky blood and disgusting shit also comes out of that hole too. Just say "I don't like faggots because I don't" lol no point in trying to justify it when all your arguments fall flat and you keep shifting goal posts.

>>18475684
That's a better argument.

>>18475189
>Also regardless, its clear you are not supposed to lay with another man in the same way you would with a woman.
Still does not prove it's somehow immoral or harmful, or a mortal sin for the matter.

>>18475124
>But because YOU choose to allow it it's moral, so really morality is the things anon is happy to have happen to him. That's great but it's not actually what morality is
Let me guess, it can't be moral, because according to you, morality only comes from the Bible?

>>18475684
Unfortunately, you lose the debate here, my friend. It's a sin, because "God hates it" does not prove it's harmful or immoral. It only proves your religious worldview sees it as a sin.

>>18475689
It's the truth.
>>18475695
I lose nothing. And when God throws you into the flames of Gehenna you won't feel so clever.

>>18475590
>They like (Insert the most comically disgusting and vile thing ever).
How do you know anon? Every /pol/troon seems to be hellbent on the idea that they specifically know what the other side is like and usually its some straight up looney toons attempt at dehumanizing. No anon, ALL faggots don't like scat, there's nothing that would suggest that they do, this is like saying every straight man in the world has a blood fetish because blood comes out of the vagina. You're making up a disgusting head canon so that you'll have an easier attempt at making fun of the other side. This is no different than a 1st grader saying "haha you eat boogers and you just farted!!!".

>>18475057
>appeal to disgust
The idea of transubstantiation is disgusting.
The idea of eating a blood clot or other discharge that comes out of a woman's vagina during her period is disgusting.
The idea of a woman performing fellatio on a penis that just got done urinating is disgusting.

>>18475117
Is boxing immoral?
Is gridiron football immoral?

>>18474820
Christianity and Islam are the truly most nihilistic religion.
They're entirely reliant on caterwauling to a distant deity to care about the speaker and to redeem their soul.

>>18475096
Why are Christians always so retarded?

>>18474772
>Christard’s understanding of Buddhism is completely wrong
Bro, you could just read the Wikipedia page at this point and you’d have an infinitely better understanding of what Buddhism is actually about…

>>18475902
At least Allah promises pussy in Jannah. What does the poopjeet religion promise? Nothingness?
>Saar the suffering must do the needful in this life, but if you do nothing and let other people trample on you then you will not come back to do the sufferings again
>>18475716
>>18475882
Why are you constantly making excuses to fuck anuses and lick buttholes and eat poop and get poop on your cock? You are disgusting. Don't you realize God is going to damn you forever?

>>18475189
>its clear you are not supposed to
Evolution has no 'supposed tos' involved.

>>18475927
>BUT GOD I WAS JUST DOING WHAT EVOLUTION TOLD ME
>"Enough! Filthy sodomite! No more fucking anuses or eating poop. You will burn for all eternity!"
That is if God even speaks to you, at best some lowly angel will have to break the news to you.

>>18475924
Your appeal to disgust already got wrecked.

Lot having sex with his daughters is disgusting.
The incest involved with the bloodlines of Adam and Noah, is disgusting.
Circumcision is disgusting.
Jesus fraternizing with the whores and the diseased is disgusting.
If disgust is a key part of why you hold religious beliefs, then you are going to become an atheist soon.

>>18475931
>putting words in the mouth of god
Enjoy Hell.

>>18475935
The only reason you're an atheist is because you're disgusting and hate purity. This is what we've been saying. This is what the Apostle Paul said. You hate God. Your mind has been darkened because you have rejected God, whose very existence is self-evident in the world. It's not that you have actual moral arguments or you even have a legitimate basis to disbelieve in the faith, you just want to fuck anuses. And you're willing to tear the whole world down to do it. I finally understand why God created Gehenna, and it was to dispose of wild ANIMALS like you.
>>18475941
>"Away from me you workers of lawlessness, I never knew you!"
No, YOU enjoy the inferno, rodent.

>>18475945
Do you think it is a good thing for families to have sex with one another?

>>18475697
Anal sex truly is a crime deserving of eternal punishment.

>>18475946
It is forbidden by God's Law.
>>18475948
When the skin melts off your flesh, and your flesh is charred, and your very bones turned to ash in the flames, will you to continue to speak with such arrogance? No! Even Aquinas says that seeing you suffer will bring joy to our hearts.
>Wherefore in order that the happiness of the saints may be more delightful to them and that they may render more copious thanks to God for it, they are allowed to see perfectly the sufferings of the damned.

>>18475953
>it is forbidden
So why does it happen multiple times in the Bible?

>>18475958
>So why does it happen multiple times in the Bible?
The Bible tells stories to warn you not to sin, and the consequences of them.

>>18475959
Lot's daughters were not sinful.

>>18475961
You are building Satan's case for him. You should just keep your mouth shut before the flames of hell burn hotter for you. This is nonsensical.

>>18475964
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019&version=NABRE
Where are they condemned for their sins?

>>18475945
Answer me this simple question
Faggorty is wrong because:
a) Hashem, Elohim, Allah, Adonai, YHWH, Jehova, Jesus, whatever whatever said so
b) Its disgusting because muh..poop

If you chose a I have no way to disprove your argument and concede. If you chose b then you are wrong because even hetero sex(the normal one) would be disgusting since the man inserts the penis with which he urinated into the vagina of the female which bleeds every month. By your logic this would imply that both people having hetero sex have a urine and a blood fetish respectively.

>>18476003
Hey bro with you want dick up your ass you do you man

>>18475945
>actually, if you’re not a part of my cult, you’re just and <insert everything I hate> ad hominem ad hominem
You know you lost an argument when you have to resort to this

>>18476033
No amount of the “disinterested, rational expert persona” posts are going to save you from hell.
>>18476003
All of this to justify getting poop and blood on your penis and in your mouth.

>>18475503
Kek this one my go-to meximutt

>>18475691
>Still does not prove it's somehow immoral or harmful, or a mortal sin for the matter.
It does because my holy book says so, you really cant ground literally anything unless it has a divine basis. Were it not for that then everything becomes a matter of opinion. I know its bad because God said so. Meanwhile your morals (if any) are rooted in what exactly?

Dalai Lama never called me a sinner.

>>18476175
Divine basis can only work so long as a person believes that this sense of morality has come from a divine source. If you don't believe in the divine source, or you believe in another divine source, then it becomes null. Eating pork is abhorrent according to Judaism and Islam, yet I presume you have no problem with eating pork or crayfish for the matter (unless you do, and I'll apologize for assuming). A Holy Book cannot be treated as any kind of objective fact in the face of public morals, unless all of the public subscribes to this book's morals. Most moral systems are based on the concept of harm.

>>18476970
Sent the message before I intended.
>Most moral systems are based on the concept of harm.
Which is what matters to most of the public. What counts as harm is often subjective, but so are religious texts. They can only be objective as long as someone believes in them.