How come communism never really took off among Black Americans beyond a few outliers like Assata Shakur that socialist intellectuals like to so yface over? By and large despite Jim Crow and Segregation Black Americans overwhelmingly seemed to prefer entering American capitalist society to building a communist one.
>>18476770Because black americans are actually very integrated, despite what hoteps or /pol/chuds bleat about.
>>18476780So Blacks are the brothers of Whites? Is that what you are saying? Racists were always wrong and the lives of Black people are worth more than the lives of White nationalists?Thank you for clearing that out
>>18476780>black americans are actually very integratedHow does that even tie into the OP?>Black Americans overwhelmingly seemed to prefer entering American capitalist society to building a communist one.People got tricked into thinking that "entering capitalist society" would be a shortcut in attaining the much needed reforms and changes in the system by being a part of it. All it did was just give us poltician ghouls who just happen to be black too.
>>18476770Because Black Americans are capitalistic af. Pretty much the entire civil rights movement was about them wanting to enter the capitalist system and way of life but being prevented by the state. They are also tribalistic af so they like programs n shiet as long as Black people need them but once they become rich in an area, like certain suburbs in the south, suddenly it’s all about making money n shiet.
>>18476770Communism was never going to be the mainstream view of any U.S demographic and the reasons for that should be obvious. Even then, you're underestimating how popular it was. Communism was/is super popular among Black Nationalists. Blacks who weren't communist were just the ones who weren't politically radicalized.
>>18476795>They are also tribalistic af so they like programs n shiet as long as Black people need them but once they become rich in an area, like certain suburbs in the south, suddenly it’s all about making money n shiet.That's being classist, not tribalistic.
>>18476796Even then they follow the third worldist anti white version of communism not the actual ideology.
>>18476786So Blacks are the brothers of Whites?Kek. They only hate Western whitey.
>>18476800Well yeah, because they were attracted to it for the same reasons.
>>18476793>How does that even tie into the OP?Because extremist faggots like communists can only shill their ideology to the downtrodden and especially during times of economic crisis.
>>18476800>anti whiteDon't complain about racism if you actively promote it, retarded /pol/tranny.
>>18476803Are you retarded? God these BRs are obnoxious as fuck.
>>18476800>third worldist anti white version of communism not the actual ideology.Nigga what the fuck are you on about?
>>18476806If they're promoting racism then they don't follow the colorblind universalism that would make being racist hypocritical. Please actually think about what you're saying.
>>18476812What the fuck is a BR? And how am I wrong? You losers can only shill your utopian retard ideology to people when they're desperate. You cannot convince a well off person under liberalism to give everything up to go live in a cuck bunker with a bunch of discord trannies writing "theory". That goes for trannazis too.
>>18476823>racists are moral relativistsHence why they are subhuman and barely worth the skin they were born in regardless of its tone.
>>18476806I don’t promote racism, hence why I call out anti white racism.>>18476822The tribalistic form of communism in the third world based more on nationalism and hatred of whites and hardly anything to do with Marx’s 19th century philosophy. Basically just nationalism with commie aesthetics.
>>18476828Racial tribalism isn't moral relativism
>>18476786Yes. Whites taught blacks everything they know. Black Americans have practically nothing in common with the cultures they originally came from, they are almost entirely Europeanized.>the lives of Black people are worth more than the lives of White nationalistsNo one said this, meds.>>18476793>How does that even tie into the OP?If you weren't a brain damaged communist, you could figure it out. Black Americans want to get rich and become ballers. The vast majority want nothing to do with bolshevik stuff.>le people got... le tricked into capitalism, yeah that's it!Or maybe they just looked over there and realized it was stupid gay shit and said "no thanks".
>>18476770You realize that's a wig, right? Her real hair is about 2 inches of frizz. She doesn't look like a real woman if you take the wig away.
>>18476770you need high jewish admixture to be able to internalize communism
>>18476770those socialist intellectuals were a handful of elite college educated mixed-race activists
>>18476871Yes tranny, women who shave their heads aren't real women. Just like you become a real woman when you grow your norwood 5 hair out, right?
>>18476806Ableist bigot.
>>18476770Communism is a jewish scam, but blacks don't into empathy or selflessness because they never evolved either. Whites foolishly believe blacks have those qualities, until they learn better from exposure to black people.
>>18476976Retarded /pol/tranny.
>>18476986Your christovagina blog is retarded.
>Retarded /pol/tranny.
>>18476988>he's been correctly called out so many times he simply announces his gay self at this pointKek. Mind broken.
>>18476991Your entire personality is calling anonymous strangers on the internet poll trannies... its not hard to spot your mentally ill posts.
>>18476995Yes I'm sure the retard who posts the 1790 immigration act as a theological backing for his racist version of Christianity is the paragon of mental health.
>>18477000Christianity has changed a lot in the last couple centuries... I prefer to live in reality and acknowledge the changes in stead of pretending like the past was exactly like the present.
>>18476770just like in white communities, its an ideology which only really proliferates amongst the highly educated and well-to-do members of the population. there were major marxist/communist movements amongst black americans (see Black Panthers), but their popularity was more to do with the things they did to help the community rather than the actual ideology behind it.
>>18476793> How does that even tie into the OP?Last I checked, capitalism was an American value.
Commies use long words. You think blacks are into that?
>>18476770Because black people are greedy and hyper-materialistic. They have no interest in equality, they want to win. This is why black people will at the same time they're calling out whitey's alleged oppression, throw down hatred towards Asians, Jews, and Mexicans. They don't want equality, they want a world where the black man comes out on top. That's why they'll scream "racism" at the top of their lungs when their guys aren't DEI'ed into the good jobs, but don't give a fuck about the representation of other races. .I mean 90% of rap music is just about bragging about how much money they have. Communism will not appeal to people like that. They're hyper-materialistic and fully determine a man's worth based on how much money he has. They just want to be the respected top dog with the money and hos. But paradoxically, this precise philosophy that underscores all of their psyche, make them more like crabs in a bucket trying to advance, they're all so busy trying to cut each other's throats that they never climb out of the gutter.
American's are very good at murdering communists there first domestic intelligence agency were created to root out communists. Karl Marx considered moving to Texas until the communist community there were killed off. The government hates black people so the few black communists so they were called unamerican, so during the cold war it completely died out.
>>18476770Four reasons:>Military serviceA lot of Black Americans felt attached to the United States because they fought for it. During the Civil War, Black Union soldiers helped save the Union and gained pride, recognition, and a sense that America belonged to them too, which made them reject the Back to Africa Movement. That feeling only grew after World War I/II, Korea, and Vietnam, where Black soldiers served in huge numbers. Because of this, many Black veterans rejected separatism or anti-American politics completely.>The Great MigrationThe Great Migration moved millions of Blacks from the rural South to Northern and Western cities, where there was no De Jure Segregation and Jim Crow, which made them more successful than their relatives who remained in the South. If the South still had majority-Black states and counties in the 1950s and 60s, they would still be miserable there and White Southerners probably would have resisted integration even more violently and for much longer.>The postwar economic boomAfter World War II, industrial jobs, unions, and government programs allowed many Black Americans to improve their living conditions, especially in cities. Racism and poverty still existed, but there was now a visible Black middle class growing in places like Chicago, Detroit, and New York. Because reforms seemed possible, many African Americans preferred civil rights, voting rights, and economic inclusion over communist revolution.
>>18477518>MaoismThe Black activists who did move toward socialism usually leaned more toward Maoism because of its emphasis on anti-colonial struggle (Russia, despite supporting independence movements in Africa more than China, was never a colonized country, so it wasn't their perfect ideal for that), Third Worldism, guerrilla warfare, and the revolutionary potential of the lumpenproletariat rather than the industrial working class emphasized by classical Marxism in traditional Soviet communism.The maoist Revolutionary Action Movement, who has tied to figures such as Malcolm X and Robert F. Williams, whose book Negroes with Guns became hugely influential among Black militants and advocates of armed self-defense, helped inspire the later Black Power movement and influenced groups like the Black Panther Party.But Maoism also weakened the broader communist movement in the long run. The split between the USSR and China divided communists worldwide, including Black radicals in America. Then, in the 1970s, China moved toward rapprochement with the United States under Richard Nixon, a politician deeply unpopular among many Black Americans because of his law-and-order politics and hostility toward Black radical groups. Once Maoist China began cooperating with the U.S. and opening relations with capitalism, it became harder for many Black activists to see China as a truly revolutionary alternative.
Most people btfo at jonestown were afro
>>18477530Jonestown was communist? I thought it was just some fringe cult of personality.
>>18477532They called it "apostolic socialism", it was supposed to be (or perhaps just marketed as) one of those left-wing Christian sects inspired by early Christians holding everything in commonbut it wound up as a cult of personality
Che went to Africa and basically said communism would never work there because they're nogs. the end
Communism demands a cohesive high trust society with cooperative self sustaining capabilities.That is just a fact. It literally cannot work if you do not have the social fabric necessary for it to.People try to make communism work from the top down, with the state using force. Which always results in failure and massive death.Nobody seems to realize you need to collectively remoralize an entire culture for several successive generations for that kind of project to even be possible.And you can't force people to be better.They have to want it, and that requires sacrifice.In short, I think their opposition to religion is actively sabotaging their ultimate goal.And their attempts to wrangle people who want nothing to do with their system also discredit them. Realistically, they have to start by building a parallel society. Not by conducting a hostile takeover of a society that already exists, which has been the typically destructive mode communists have historically attempted to do.
So many people who want socialism of communism want daddy government to take stuff from other people and give it to them. Their entire mentality is essentially extractive and self oriented.You don't really find them asking what can I personally give to other people, how can I work with other like-minded people to work out a functioning independent system of collective ownership and cooperative effort. Even if it's just on a community level, shit just doesn't really exist.Because that's actually hard and requires you to actually deal with other people in a meaningful way, it's far easier to vote for people who let the money printer go brrrrr and take out the loans from bankers so the gibs flow and then pretend as if that's really the same thing.
>>18476770you need to read books to get it
>>18476770Black panthers(biggest black militant group) were literal maoists you stupid fuck
>>18476917Stop doing bestiality
>>18476871she'd look better with natural hair anywayI need a black gf bros...
>>18479087Wow, third worldist race ideologues who became actually less relevant to their people than drug dealing street gangs a long time ago now.Surely they represent black Americans as a whole, for reasons.
Black Americans are extremely consumeristic them niggas love shoes and jewelryAlso black woman sexo
>>18479100>natural hair>niggersUm, hate to be the one to inform you...
>>18479087Malcolm X too.>Revolutionary Action Movement (RAM) was a Marxist–Leninist, black nationalist organisation that was active from 1962 to 1968. It was the first group to apply the philosophy of Maoism to conditions of black people in the United States and informed the revolutionary politics of the Black Power movement. RAM was the only secular political organization that Malcolm X joined prior to 1964. The group's political formation deeply influenced the politics of Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, and many other future influential Black Panther Party founders and members>RAM was the first group in the United States to synthesize the thought of Marx, Lenin, Mao, and Malcolm X into a comprehensive theory of revolutionary black nationalism. They combined socialism, black nationalism, and Third World internationalism into a coherent and applicable theory that called for revolution "inside the citadel of world imperialism", meaning the United States.>Malcolm X became a RAM officer in 1964. Max Stanford has claimed that Malcolm X's Organization of Afro-American Unity (OAAU) was intended to be the popular front organization to RAM's underground black liberation army>The Organization of Afro-American Unity (OAAU) was a Pan-Africanist organization founded by Malcolm X in 1964. The OAAU was modeled on the Organization of African Unity, which had impressed Malcolm X during his visit to Africa in April and May 1964. The purpose of the OAAU was to fight for the human rights of African Americans and promote cooperation among Africans and people of African descent in the Americas>On July 17, 1964, Malcolm X was welcomed to the second meeting of the Organisation of African Unity in Cairo as a representative of the OAAU
>>18476770>>18476780Except the Soviet Union saw them as a separate nation within the borders of the USA.
