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From finance to science would Enlightenment be achieved in Europe if it was not for the Jews
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>>18476978
It's funny when wignat associate jews with muh brown people despite the fact that the entire age of white people colonizing browns was funded and backed by jewish mercantilist classes.
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>>18476978
The modern world exists in spite of Jews who at every turn have tried to destroy white christian civilization.
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>>18476978
Jews contributed almost nothing to European civilization for centuries, they were irrelevant people pushing a vegetable cart around a shtetl in between occasional massacres and expulsions.
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>>18476978
The Enlightenment occured before Jews were accepted into society and when they were themselves hostile to it. It is funny how everything the far-right blames Jews for in Europe actually came from ethnic European Enlightenment ideas that Jews were pressured to accept. Even Jews in finance was due to Europeans forcing them into it.

But to answer the question, yes, Europe would still have made their achievements without the Jews but the Jews still made many great achievements that have benefitted Europe and the world at large.
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>>18477007
Bingo. You may have had some wealthy Jewish families around, but for most of the history of Europe, Jews did basically nothing of consequence in grand historical scale. Not good, not bad, they just existed.
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>>18476978
Considering the fact that Christianity came from Judaism, the deep relationship between Christianity & Europe, and how for literal centuries Europeans saw the Near East as more sacred than their own countries; history would legit be unrecognizable if there were no Jews in Europe.
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>>18477391
Interesting take
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>>18477050
>>18477007
so "le history iz just le grand secret Jewish conspiracy" is a myth?
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>>18476981
For their own ends of spreading the jewish word.
>>18477001
Saul judaised White civilisation. Jews should've been expelled permanently.
>>18477027
The Enlightenment secularised jewish christianity.
>>18477806
Christians view it as holy to destroy themselves to please jews and browns.
>>18477826
After a certain point, no.
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>>18477828
>Christians view it as holy to destroy themselves to please jews and browns.
Lying is retarded
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>>18477828
>Saul judaised White civilisation. Jews should've been expelled permanently.
Let's see what St. Paul has to say to your claims:
14For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
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>>18477007
There were many learned, accomplished Jews in the Islamic empires but European Ashkenazim did basically fuck-all prior to emancipation in the XIX century.
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Jews were only a tiny proportion of the population and white Christians developed the vast majority of technological advances and innovations. There is no logical reason to presume that the renaissance and industrial revolution would not progress without the jews. One might speculate that without this or that Jewish innovator or scientist progress might have been slowed by a small fraction, but there is nothing substantive to this.

The same could be said of the British or the French or some other country, if there was no Britain it would have probably had a much more significant effect, since Britain was at the heart of the industrial revolution and produced scientists like Roger Bacon and Isaac Newton. However I expect Europe would progress to the industrial revolution anyway, it would be delayed no longer than a century since Britain's progress depended on mathematicians, scientists and various artisans and innovators in the rest of the continent.

It seems fairly obvious you posted this to stick it to the "antisemites", but demanding people accept falsehoods and accusing them of antisemitism simply plays into the hands of genuine antisemites, so I would advise you to admit you are wrong, thank me for correcting you and apologise as a genuinely good person would otherwise you are treading down a dark path to dishonesty and racial hatred towards ethnic white Europeans.

note: I am posting this anonymously so there is no ego involved, it is more to prove what kind of person you are, if you are a good person the admission, the thanks and the apology will be nothing to you, it's more about you than me
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>>18476978
Jews aren't a race and antisemitism isn't racism.
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>>18478034
Das rite. High IQ jews didn't created this Abrahamic Aryan Alien pedofags retarded cannibal cult it must have been Niggerbrew bois.
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>>18478367
Kek
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>>18476978
Finance = usury
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>>18476978
Where is now Europe?
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>>18476978
Albert Einstein (General/Special Relativity, Photoelectric Effect)
Max Born (Born Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics)
Niels Bohr (Bohr Quantization Model of the Atom)
Wolfgang Pauli (Pauli Exclusion Principle)
Paul Ehrlich (Diagnosis of blood-borne diseases through gram staining)
Richard Feynmann (Quantum Electrodynamics, Feynman Diagrams)
J Oppenheimer (Born-Oppenheimer Formulation of the Wave Function)
Fritz Haber (Synthesis of ammonia, Haber's Process)
Sigmund Freud (Founder of Psychoanalysis, The Interpretation of Dreams)
John Von Neumann (Basis of modern computing aka Von Neumann Architecture, Fluid Dynamics, Mathematical Statistics, Quantum Logic, Game Theory)

It wasn't everything but keep in mind Jews disproportionately contributed to European sciences from the moment they were able to participate in larger society.
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>>18479865

>It wasn't everything but keep in mind Jews disproportionately contributed to European sciences from the moment they were able to participate in larger society.

No they didn't. The vast majority of innovations and scientific contributions in Europe are done by members of the clergy and amateur hobbyists, even to this day. Jews only occasionally provide something to the sciences, but the few that are over-promoted for their works because Jews control most of the finance houses and media outlets, and being highly tribalistic people they exaggerate the accomplishments of members of the tribe.
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>>18476978
everything would have been more or less the same up until ww1.



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