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What is thucydides trap?
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>>18479207
A mentality among rival states that war between them is inevitable, because they see themselves in zero sum competition instead of potentially partners for cooperation. The inevitability of war then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

If you want to understand this better I recommend reading the book "on the origins of war and the preservation of peace" by Donald Kagan.
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>>18479207
Modern psuedointellectual term to basically describe "dominant power acts agressive to rising power"
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When unc bumps into a zoomiechad
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>>18479207
All action is motivated by fear. Thucydides is wrong about honor and self interest. Shame is a form of fear. Basically, any nation is afraid of being weakened and being made the bottom bitches and having to spread their cheeks so they avoid that by launching disastrous wars. This isn't a meme trap, its just how it is.
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>>18479298
retarded take
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>>18479720
It's just a term coined to sound really smart/complicated to describe a basic scenario. Plus, it's further limited because Sparta won vs Athens.
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Something that a head of state who has declared a "people's war" against America for multiple concurrent decades (long enough to be on topic btw) mentioned because the prospect of actual hot war with America, contrary to their bluster, is terrifying to the current regime because it could go badly and be the biggest embarrassment ever.

Oh trust me, we can actually work together America instead of fighting.
Ignore our continued mass intellectual property theft, export of fentanyl precursors, invasive species, constant antagonism of your allies in the region, support for North Korea, etc.
Please just open the strait. Don't actually start redeveloping your domestic arms production and other industrial capabilities, it's not necessary because we can just make everything you need.
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>>18479207
It's what the boondocks called 'nigger moment' but for states
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>>18480125
one thing people aren't talking enough about either is the current revolution in naval warfare we are seeing in the black sea, red sea, and the persian gulf, where drones have made sea denial by a force without a navy far easier and cheaper than sea control by a force with even a powerful navy. I'm not sure that China actually could take Taiwan now. At the very least the potential for absolute disaster even in a situation where America does not directly intervene is higher now than ever before.



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