What would be the global attitude of the time if Nazi Germany wasn’t expansionist but it became public knowledge they were killing their Jews? Obviously it’d be frowned upon but would they face any repercussions or would the world at large be afraid of pissing off a militarised Germany and escalating the situation. Would they just become pariahs and the world at large would forget in a few decades? They went through a great deal to cover it up so they knew it’d be a hard sell to the powers of the time what they were up to.
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It would be absolutely abhorred, but considering how weary everyone was of WWI, I’d highly doubt that it would result in a war as long as Germany remains geopolitically passive.So, Germany becomes a pariah nation and when the power inevitably shifts away from Nazis later on, no matter how it happens, the killings will slowly fade and become history instead of acute political matter.
>>18479462I think no nation ever in human history invaded another nation simply to save certain people inside it. The idea is completely retarded. Nations are just selfish bastards who care only about their own interests as individuals.Americans didn't attack Germany to save Jews. They did it to add it to their empire and to steal all their stuff.
>>18480713>american imperialism>only there's no empireYou all are no better than the smoothbrains who call everyone Nazis and end up devaluing the term.
>>18480727>20 bases in Germany will full American staffing all year round and American nukes and plans that talk about how Germany would be sacrificed in a hot war against the Soviets just so America can be safe>not imperialismIt is you who are the smoothbrain. Imperialism isn't just importing spices and slaves from shitholes.
>>18480755I had a friend in the Army who was at one of those bases in Germany. He said everyone was an alcoholic who fucked around out of boredom. Wow. Such imperialism. It's worse than the the Opium Wars!
>>18479462Ngl I think it would just be a very lessened version of post WW2 attitudes towards the Nazis. They'd still be considered distasteful, but distasteful in the sense the Young Turks or the Interahamwe are distasteful rather than the uniquely distasteful position of the Reich. Assuming those things (like Aktion T4) ever come to light, I mean.There would probably be no Invasion but Germany would have probably become a pariah, it's economy would cave in on itself eventually. It probably would have stimmied the liberalization of attitude we saw in the later 20th century, maybe Eugenics would today be a controversial but still mildly accepted discipline.
>>18479462Well they only started killing Jews after the war had already began, but if we must entertain your stretch of a counter-factual, I would say that they would absolutely get away with it as the Turks, Soviets, and Israelis did, with naught but a couple Youtube essays uploaded decades after the Fuhrer's death to "educate" and "spread awareness" on the topic.
>>18480713USA didn't invade Germany because they wanted bases there lmao, Germany threated global maritime trade system by attacking France and UK
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>>18479462>>18480890>>18481221The historical memory of the Holocaust has been telescoped a bit as well because it wasn't as much of a widespread thing in terms of knowledge / awareness / belief among non-Jews until years after the war, like the 1960s/1970s, because Jews themselves didn't like to talk about it because it was really upsetting. My sense is there was definitely a widespread belief that the Nazis were mass murderers but what was really pronounced in hostility to German things was Germany's association with aggression and war. It was seen as just a brutal, militaristic and threatening hostile nation that was very different from Germany now.
>>18480713>I think no nation ever in human history invaded another nation simply to save certain people inside it. The idea is completely retardedThe U.S. also didn't really let Jewish emigres from Europe in at the time, wasn't trying to "save" them. Some did make it, but it was difficult. The U.S. had restrictive immigration policies at the time which tightened up in the 1920s. There was talk in the U.S. about persecution of Jews in Germany with American Jews bringing attention to it through the newspapers where they had influence, but it wasn't a decisive thing from everything I've read about it. Didn't really figure at all in pro-war propaganda once the U.S. and Germany were at war. More this:https://youtu.be/LL1fVdyIlCw
Also the last thing is that GERMAN Jews comprised a small percentage of Holocaust victims, around 3% of the total, and a lot of German Jews were fleeing by the 1930s, roughly half got out before the Holocaust really started. The vast majority killed were in occupied territories to the east because that's where most of the Jews lived.
