Right so God is 3 beings but one God and that's somehow monotheism even though the trinity never mentioned in the Bible and Augustine himself couldn't explain it.He created the entire universe a few thousand years ago but faked evidence to make it look billions of years old just because.He condemned the entire human race to sinfulness and death because a woman who had been alive for hours or days with no knowledge of morality ate a fruit at the behest of a talking snake and gained self awareness as a result which is apparently evil.And despite being all good and all powerful God can't just forgive us himself but rather everyone has to go to Hell because of this incident.God then lives as the Judean storm deity for a few centuries, genociding people in a giant flood, torturing Job for a bet, losing fights to metal chariots, appearing as a talking bush here and there.He confuses the entire planets languages for building a ziggurat too tall but he has no problems with space travel or skyscrapers today.He then impregnates a 14 year old girl with himself to be born as his own son to die so he can forgive us for a sin he knew we'd commit under the conditions he placed us in.But even then you're only saved if you eat a bread wafer every Sunday believing it's literally human flesh and believe fully in his tales without requiring any evidence.And you can't have evidence because the all powerful God can't show himself because nobody can see God yet live except Moses and few other old testament people who did that.And now we're waiting for the world to end but before that can happen Israel needs to genocide the entire middle east or algo.Does that about sum up Christianity?
>>18479822>Does that about sum up Christianity?No. You sound confused.
>>18479837How so?>>18479840I count at least 3 distinct sins in the language used in this post alone.
>>18479822>He created the entire universe a few thousand years ago but faked evidence to make it look billions of years old just because.Yes creationists are retarded, 99% of Christians outside the 3rd world agree would agree with that statement. You're not exactly being edgy here.>He condemned the entire human race to sinfulness and death because a woman who had been alive for hours or days with no knowledge of morality ate a fruit at the behest of a talking snake and gained self awareness as a result which is apparently evil.The story is an allegory for the fact that our awareness of Good and Evil makes us capable of sin, unlike animals to whom morality is N/A. This makes us spiritually flawed in a way animals aren't.>He confuses the entire planets languages for building a ziggurat too tall but he has no problems with space travel or skyscrapers today.My understanding of the mainstream interpretation is that God wasn't mad about the height, but rather the fact that humans were trying to challenge his authority. Space travel and skyscrapers aren't about that. Tricky part is, the Bible never actually says this.I agree that everything else you listed ranges from nonsensical to evil.>>18479837Perhaps you'd like to clear up the confusion?
>>18479948>The story is an allegoryAre you saying Jesus died for an allegory? Or do you think Jesus is an allegory too?
>>18479948>99% of Christians outside the 3rd world agree would agree with that statementThe USA is a 3rd world country?
>>18479822That's the way most Christians understand it yes so you're spot on. Now if you want to see how their theologians explain it then it's more like this and it's not much better
>>18479948>>18479954This. If Christians claim the talking snake and the fruit etc was allegory or metaphor then it means Jesus died for a metaphor, not for an actual sin committed by humanity.
>>18479957If you walked up to a random American and asked them, they would almost certainly agree Young Earth Creationism is idiotic unless maybe you're balls-deep in the most fundie parts of the Bible belt.>>18479962>That's the way most Christians understand it yes so you're spot onThat's the thing, I think people who spend time arguing about theology online have a massively warped understanding of what everyday Christians know and believe. They dunk on atheists for not really knowing the Bible or theology, but fail to realize that most Christians don't either. My mom used to be a church-going Christian but she's only vaguely aware of the Trinity as concept. My dad was raised by deeply religious rednecks and he thinks the soul is supposed to be a literal physical object that you can see and touch.
>>18479948>creationists are retardedIf you agree that the universe obviously wasn't created 5~6000 years ago because it looks impossible for that to be the case, then why do you believe in the other magical and impossible stuff like immaculate conception, walking on water, resurrection, etc?>God wasn't mad about the height, but rather the fact that humans were trying to challenge his authorityWhat exactly are the conditions to piss off god in a way that makes him directly intervene in the world? It's not like people don't do shit to challenge his authority every day. Like Nikita Khrushchev saying something like "Yuri Gagarin saw no god from up there", that's pretty representative of a large powerful nation defying god, yet nothing happened and the USSR lingered on for 30 years longer, with Khrushy dying in his old age.This whole notion of god "directly punishing" people who are currently alive on Earth is pretty fucking weird too. Isn't the whole point of Christianity that you need to have faith and believe in it without proof to make sure you're doing it out of "free will"? If god starts derping around and directly punishing or rewarding people in the present world, that will clearly create a bias that overrides the whole faith thing. If you pray for god to do X, and he does it, doesn't that make you pretty fucking certain that he's real and eliminate the lingering risk of doubt, making it not a faith thing anymore?
>>18479994>If you walked up to a random American and asked them, they would almost certainly agree Young Earth Creationism is idiotic unless maybe you're balls-deep in the most fundie parts of the Bible belt.Something like a fifth of all Americans believe the Earth is young. Around 40% would tell you they didn't come from no goshdarned monkey.
Just the fact that the trinity is so hated proves it's true. Whatever is hated the most is always the truth. Every single time. They hated Jesus Christ while he was on this earth.
>>18479822>God is 3 beings3 persons, one God. If you can't understand how multiple people can be the share the same God, then you are polytheistic.
>>18479822>He created the entire universe a few thousand years agoOne verse. One written record. The written record is about 6,000 years old. It's not the entire verse. Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
>>18480367>If you can't understand how multiple people can be the share the same God, then you are polytheisticwell yeah because polytheists don't subscribe to these kinds of incoherent self-contradictions
>>18480376Multiple people share the same truth.
>>18479822>self awarenessIts a commentary on subjective morality, vs objective morality. Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil means that the humans are creating their own morality, rather than seeking true, objective moraility. This leads to hubris, which leads to nemesis, which is why it is a degenerate practice for a culture.
>>18479822>forgive us himself I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, take your mat and go home.”
>>18479995>then why do you believeYou are not addressing what he believes. You are arguing against a straw man.
>>18479995>faithFaith is about effective semantics and persuasion, not being gullible.The simple believe anything, but the prudent give thought to their stepsDo not rape your good judgment by ignoring the etymology of words.
>>18480323A man loving the asshole of another man is also very hated, well then I guess it's a valid form of love according to you christkeks
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6xcj-bZb-LgJohn 1:1-2: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."John 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”Philipp 2:5-8: Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."Matthew 28:19“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”1 John 5:20“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”Matthew 4:7: “Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.”---Salvation is by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9, given by God, Romans 10:8 & 17) only in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in your place (1 Cor. 15:3-4) as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). His blood atonement made for you is finished, so if you have received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in your heart, you're forgiven of all your sins and are saved, once for all; finally and forever! (Rom. 8:38-39, Romans 4:5)Confess the Lord Jesus in prayer: Dear God, I repent as a sinner who wants to be saved from hell. I believe Jesus is God who died, was buried and resurrected so that his blood can wash away my sins. I only trust in that alone to save me, not my good works. I pray in the holy name of Jesus, Amen.
