>>18480069
He was my past incarnation

fighting dirty, home field advantage, & galvanized conviction. thread over, everybody go home

He wasn't powerful. He died over 1.1 million times only to kill less than 60k guys.

>>18480122
>muh K/D
Every fucking thread

>>18480069
Nothing. Vietnam won politically, not militarily.

There is no solution for asymmetrical warfare that isn't genocide and/or ethnic cleansing. The US had to give a shit about its reputation and couldn't possibly ethnically cleanse Vietnam, so it was untenable from the start. See Israel's recent ethnic cleansing of Southern Lebanon or Azerbaijan's ethnic cleansing of Nagorno Karabakh back in 2023, counter insurgency relies on actually countering the insurgency by removing it. Now of course you might say that this is monstrous, and you'd be right.

>>18480150
What are you smoking, the commies weren't an "ethnicity", if you ethnically cleanse Vietnam there's literally no one left and the point of the war was for the non-commies to have a country, who happen to be from ethnic Vietnamese just like the commies. The real reason for the loss was the the US didn't want to invade the North because it could have dragged China into the war, and they didn't want a massive escalation like in Korea. So the North just kept chucking suicide attacks into the South over and over not giving a shit about how many of their own men died because they were communists and thus didn't care about the value of human life. They simply kept the war going indefinitely until the US suffered from political fatigue and the population demanded an end to the conflict, regardless of the fact that North Vietnam couldn't secure any actual clear victory in battle.

>>18480084
everyone fought dirty whole villages were being annihilated

smaller hitbox

>>18480161
Yes. Ethnically cleanse the Vietnamese.

>>18480150
>There is no solution for asymmetrical warfare that isn't genocide and/or ethnic cleansing
wtf are you talking about, the simple fact is most insurgencies fail but midwits just laser focus on the handful that are a success.

South Vietnam didn't fall to an insurgency, it fell to North Vietnam actually invading with a conventional military using conventional tactics.

>>18480370
How does that accomplish anything? Why would the US randomly invade a country across the Pacific just to wipe out everyone?

>>18480390
To win the war. In a roundabout way, this is acknowledging the war was bullshit. Why commit at all if you don't want to win?

>>18480150
>The US had to give a shit about its reputation
germany didn't give a shit about theirs in ww1 and still lost

>>18480069
Communist use third world bug people to zerg rush the capitalist machine until it shuts down because its gears are gunked up with gore.

The Vietnam War is a perfect example of it.

>>18480450
Cope.

>>18480442
>Why commit at all if you don't want to win?
It's not like they decided to start the war on a whim, the escalation was gradual and they realized they were in too deep too late. They ended up in a situation in which they got stuck in a conventional war which the military was fighting competently, but there was no political will to invade the North out of fear of bringing China in which could be another near-WW3 scenario like Korea. So the result was this half-assed commitment where they just sat on their asses playing tower defense against endless waves of Northerners.

>>18480454
Its reality. Communist cant fight for shit, they get their asses kicked in every engagement and then just play the sympathy card on the international stage in the hopes the UN punishes their enemies to the point of giving them a win condition.

The current Israeli-Palestine war is a perfect example of this.

>>18480472
>Israeli-Palestine war
There are scarcely any commies involved save for some tiny literal who Marxist guerrillas in Palestine. Hamas and PIJ are both Islamists.

>>18480126
Why does that anger you?

>>18480150
it doesn't work for Israel, Germany or the US, wars of extermination do not end well you have to give the people you rule over something

>>18480538
War and conflict isn't a CoD lobby.

>>18480450
>Communist use third world bug people to zerg rush the capitalist machine until it shuts down because its gears are gunked up with gore.
The US gave up because there was no more support for it back home, they were forced to use shitty recruits to feed the war machine, and the war lasted two decades with no real progress and still propping up a shitty regime that couldn't even hold itself up at the bare minimum.

>>18480161
>they were communists and thus didn't care about the value of human life.
Did you totally forget about the GWoT?

Why was bombing so ineffective at shutting down the Ho Chi Minh trail? IIRC the US dropped more bombs on Laos alone during the war than they had in all of WW2, and yet more supplies and men kept pouring across the border right until the end of the war.

>>18480592
And throughout all that time, the Communist had a much higher causality rate and won no real significant battles. They won the war because they held out long enough for America to lose interest and abandon South Vietnam

>>18480614
>bomb a trail on a mountain
>people on mountain go around
It wasn't exactly the same as bombing a logistical hub full of trucks and trains in Europe.

>>18480614
A lot of the trail went through extremely dense jungle, so they could simply change the routes through it at will and it'd be impossible to detect cause of the canopy cover.

And as for the mountains that separate most of Laos from Vietnam, they aren't so much an impassible barrier as they are a maze of narrow passes.

So trying to shut down these logistical routes via air power is playing whackamole with extremely expensive hammers.

>>18480614
>>18480725
tbhfam, bombing campaigns never really work. Even in Germany in like the last months of the war, the few remaining industrial centers for the war machine were still working without issue and Germany really only collapsed because they ran out of oil

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>>18480126
>guy gets tired of kicking your ass and goes home
>"heh... fucking rekt..."

>>18480161
Viet Cong weren't exclusively commies, they were a coalition movement of Buddhists and nationalists in addition to commies. The Catholic Diem regime cracked down on Buddhists leading to that RATM album cover of the monk lighting himself on fire, most of them probably had no idea what communism was they were just nationalists fighting for their country.

Also they couldn't invade the north because they signed a treaty saying they wouldn't that was guaranteed by both China and the USSR. There's zero chance an American administration would have risked an invasion of North Vietnam because they would've feared both Chinese and Soviet nuclear retaliation.

>>18480069
The Vietnamese had been fighting a war of independence since the Japanese invaded in WWII and continued against the French until they were expelled, and then again against the US puppet regime and US forces. When the French came back Japanese officers and soldiers defected to them and helped train them further in assault tactics. They were the most battle hardened troops on the planet by the 1960s and had built up a complex organizational structure as well as one of the biggest logistical feats of military history, the Ho Chi Minh trail.

>>18480764
>bombing campaigns never really work
you are a retard

>>18480687
>They won the war because they held out long enough for America to lose interest and abandon South Vietnam
>>18480776
That's still a loss.

>>18480816
It doesn't make them better fighters than American troops.

>>18480807
The Nazis were still producing war materials in all their factories up until the end of the war anon.

>>18480816
Yeah no shit. The point being made is that they suck militarily and got their asses kicked in every engagement and only won the war due to international political circumstances and not due to their prowess as fighters.

Youre just coping hard.

>>18480069
He was fighting 60 IQ rednecks who were beta testing shit gear.