>POV - You just tried to turn Poland into a homosexual multicultural capitalist slave state and jaruzelski's boys are gonna have a word with you
>heh, wow, we once fought for our continued subjugation by a foreign power over another foreign power>we're so heckin' based
>>18480099Romania is proof that Warsaw Pact nations fully had the ability of self determination The DDR, Bulgaria and Poland just preferred full Soviet support so they placated more >inb4 muh Hungary and Czechoslovakia If a Soviet sponsored coup/revolt happened in West Germany NATO would have done the same Self determination is one thing, allowing anti government lynch mobs to go around murdering people in an allied state is another
>>18480080It's admirable how hard you try to make your country look cool
>>18480136This is a historically illiterate take.By the time Romania started doing it's own thing the USSR had abandoned the doctrine of treating the Warsaw Pact as puppet states, which ultimately led to the complete collapse of the bloc.If you want an actual example of how the USSR used to treat the Warsaw Pact look at the Prague Spring and the 1956 revolution in Hungary.
>>18480155>your countrynot his country
>>18480080Slavic Bolshevism is the mortal foe of degenerate liberal plutocracy
>>18480229Whose is it then?
>warsaw pact politicians when they find out the ethnic/sexual backgrounds of their most ardent western simps in 2026
>>18480099they fought themselves too, the Soviets didn't need to send in the tanks like Prague and Hungary
>>18480251mine>>18480247bolshevism is jewish and so are you
>>18480282needn't? they shouldn't have had. eastern block would've fallen apart and the greatest tragedy that befall europe would've been over in the 50s
>>18480080It's really a tragic comedy how nobody considers the USA and NATO to be on the same level as the USSR and the Warsaw Pact purely because the former allowed wealth to be acquired. If signs were made bilingual Russian instead of English there would be outrage. This chess board needs to be flipped.
>>18480312Bolshevism is Baltic
>>18480136Except Nato didn't sponsor those uprising. They were natural and those nations didn't want to be under Soviet influence. Can you prove Nato funded them?
>>18480387>>If signs were made bilingual Russian instead of English there would be outrageProbably because that would only happen if Russians actively stamped out the Polish language and attempted to force the population to learn and use Russian. Whereas Poland wasn't forced at all to adopt English signage as a NATO member, it did so to encourage more American and British investment in Poland.
>>18480276lmao
>>18480716Ah, the myth of organic revolt. It gets the funniest because even when you go back to the medieval period it wasn't real(revolts during the reign if Henry the VI were most likely organised by Richard, duke of York) but totally nowadays with far greater sociopolitical organisation the amorphous mass of human shit just blobs and revolts. Nonsense.The poster is wrong though. In case of Poland they weren't organised by NATO but by elements within the communist party itself. Just like the USSR didn't collapse because of some popular movements but rather because the leaders(a couple of people, including aides and secretaries less than 50) of the soviet republics met and decided politburo is dysfunctional and it's time to go their separate ways or DDRs political class willingly joined the FDR initially thinking they'll be allowed to have their own satrapy in the east. It's however just as stupid to believe that there are some blobs of people with autonomy that doesn't come without leadership. It's the most idiotic when Poles say it because it proves that they've became homo sovieticus mentally and haven't cured it despite 30+ years, their interwar elites were anything like that. They were full blown paretians and would never in 100 years believed "uprisings just happened because people didn't want something".
>>18480387>If signs were made bilingual Russian instead of English there would be outrage. This chess board needs to be flipped.Good luck, there are Poles who cosplay as Americans and have 4th of July parties. They don't get everything right but they do a pretty good job (this pic is of Poles in Poland). Looks like a Hard Target video.https://youtu.be/d9gKPfYw2Yk
>>18480769Right, Americans are very good at making coercion stealthy. (And then there's the fact that American "culture" is like rot, a destructive force you need to actively resist.")
>>18480247>>18480312Bolshevism is Aryan.
>>18480080>homosexual multicultural capitalist slave stateits a shame hilter lost, because if hitler had won then Pooland would not be a homosexual multicultural capitalist slave state today
>>18480769>Russians actively stamped out the Polish language and attempted to force the population to learn and use RussianThe only difference here is that the Russians were far more simple, primitive, and brute force in their methodsThe USA and NATO were far more insidious, you won't realize you are being assimilated until it is too late, the USSR at least told you about their plans in advancePure evil
>>18480080Endokomuna chads get in hereRodacy Kamraci declare themselves Stalinists, and expressed admiration for the NKVD Commissar Ivan Serov.[25] Olszański claimed that he joined the Motorized Reserves of the Citizens' Militia (ZOMO, communist paramilitary police) in 1980 and beat the anti-communist protesters from Workers' Defence Committee in defense of Polish nationalism. He stated that he takes pride in the possibility of having personally beat up Tadeusz Mazowiecki, the first prime minister of post-communist Poland.[111] He claimed that he joined ZOMO specifically to maintain the communist rule in Poland,[112] and glorified the Polish People's Republic.[68] Olszański made Bogdan Poręba [pl], a prominent member of the Endocommunist Patriotic Union Grunwald [pl], as well as Albin Siwak, a national communist who considered the anti-communist opposition in Poland a Jewish conspiracy, frequent guests during his streams. He also declared his support for the leader of North Korea Kim Jong Un,[113] and has praised the Red Army,[114] calling them the liberators of Poland.[35] Olszański stated: Poles, poisoned by Americanism and a sense of invincibility — believing that the Virgin Mary will save them from everything — think they’re players in the game [of the Western powers], but we’re just cannon fodder. Piasecki knew this; he said that we Poles truly love the Soviet Union. I love it too. Really. I’m not being cynical.[35]
>>18481179>>18482360The basic problem with communist Poland is that it was a broke military dictatorship that suffered a massive decline in quality of life by the 1970s (i.e. in only 20 years) with a constant outflow of the population, and now it has a rapid increase in income and life expectancy and one of the most dynamic economies in Europe. Like it's sort of debatable for the Soviets or even East Germans but in Poland communism was a straight-up rolling basket case from the beginning to the end. So now you get America LARP, sorry that it doesn't "look" or "feel" the way that appeals to you but that's because you're lunatics who have no idea what you're talking about and hate well-performing countries that make progress in human welfare for some bizarre reason, which is amusing.https://youtu.be/5EYN-u6NTiQ
>>18480387It's really telling how fucking autistic you are if you can't tell why Poles hate one and not the other.The USA doesn't hate the US but hates Russia for the same reason it doesn't hate France but hates Germany.
>>18480136>sponsored couplmao Son, we literally have the Stasi transcripts of a Mielke and Andropow meeting where they discuss Poland and literally neither of them say anything about the Polish protests being astroturfed or anything. Andropow's explanation for them is actually purely that "Polish people are peasants with no industrial proletariat consciousness!"
>>18481179It's utterly astounding how tone deaf Tankies are about why Poland hates you lot.All these non-Russian Tankies genuinely buy the party line, that's why they literally just don't understand that the Soviet Union = Russian Empire and that rule from Moscow is still rule from Moscow regardless of what flowery language or which decorations they're using. You spergs really operate on the logic that "if the official party line is that we aren't the Russian Empire and are anti-imperialist then that must be true because the party line says so!"Russian soldiers stationed in their countries, Russian Premiers being consulted before any major decision is made, literally had a full blown fucking Russian (Rokossowski was as Polish as JFK was Irish) installed as 'Minister of Defence', Russian designed tanks with Russian crews storming Budapest and Prague, etc... Yeah no shit nobody in East Europe buying your Workers of the World nonsense, they were only getting flashbacks to the Gendarme of Europe and Tsars. Then American lefties on the assburger spectrum scratch their heads and act baffled by this because they can't solve the real world experience vs rhetoric conundrum
