was this a valid crashout?
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>>18480402>kills less people than the firebombing I'm tired of you low IQ shitskins thinking this was the worst thing ever because it LOOKS LE SCARY11!1!1
>>18480421We actually don't know what the long term death toll of the atomic bombings were because deaths were still occurring from radiation poisoning well into the 1960s.
>>18480421In both cases (firebombing or nuclear bombing) the goal was to kill as many civilians as possible in order to blackmail the Japanese government to surrender. America had given up a conventional invasion of the Japanese isles knowing the Japanese were a proud people who would fight to the end, so they hoped to target civilians in order to exert pressure on the government. It's the same logic Islamic terrorists use I suppose, by killing innocents you're able to achieve a desirable political outcome, and thus the ends justify the means.The difference is that nuclear bombings are a particularly grotesque instrument of mass murder, similar to or worse than the chemical weapons of WW1, due to long term health problems they cause targeted populations and the completely inhuman form of death it brings, disfiguring human bodies and burning the skin off children, mutilating people beyond recognition in a kind of Lovecraftian horror.In theory of course none of this would matter if America was willing to forego any claim to its alleged Christian moral superiority. After all, I'm not naive enough to believe objective good or evil exist in this world. But there is always something particularly offensive about moral hypocrisy and no one represents that better than the Whore of Babylon, god-forsaken America!
>>18480661Acting as if Japan didn't do the same shit across China and Southeast Asia and were poor victims just because they were too retarded to surrender when their entire navy was in the bottom of the ocean and the US was at their doorstep. They fucked around and they found out.
>>18480402Start shit get hit. Why did Japan start a war they knew they would lose?
>>18480678The nuclear bombings of Japan are obviously not a reaction to Japanese execution of Chinese PoWs. That's an absurd claim to make. So I will assume the claim you are making, instead, is that the Japanese execution of Chinese PoWs is proof of the Japanese race deserves nuclear annihilation as some kind of abstract moral law created by the all-loving Christian God.Would your position change if I told you the Chinese also executed Japanese PoWs? Would you decide, they too, are subhuman and therefore worthy of nuclear annihilation? Or is killing PoWs only a big deal when the Japanese do it to the Chinese, but not when the Chinese do it to the Japanese?
>>18480722Japs also executed American PoWs and illegally imprisoned American expats living in the Philippines
>>18480728Not as a policy, they didn't. Of course it happened but it happens in every war.>illegally imprisoned American expats living in the PhilippinesThis is an absurd thing to whine about given the treatment of Japanese-Americans by the US, who were, ostensibly, their own citizens.But if you're willing to acknowledge objective good and evil don't exist, and everything is just a matter of in-group preference, then I'm happy to concede the point. This would require America giving up its alleged claim to moral superiority however.
>>18480743>treatment of Japanese-AmericansAh yes. Japan intentionally withholding medical treatment and food to American citizens is exactly the same as America forcing Japanese to live in camps and suffer nearly 0 casualties
>>18480759>During World War II, at least 1,862 Japanese Americans died while incarcerated in U.S. internment camps.
>>18480402should have accepted offers to unconditionally surrender
>>18480777How many were natural deaths and how many were due to executions and starvation?
>>18480777How many were victims of cannibalism? Since the Japanese numbers aren’t zero.
>>18480678>Acting as if Japan didn't do the same shit across China and Southeast AsiaWhy do retards always pull this argument? Do you also support mass murder of American civilians because of American imperialist foreign policy?
>>18481247I support their right to try, and get BTFO for it, sure.
>>18481247>Do you also support mass murder of American civilians because of American imperialist foreign policyYes, actually. 9/11 was the greatest justice of the 21st century.
>>184812889/11 didn't just kill Americans. Citizens of over 100 nations died, probably your own too.
>>18481247Because there was a world war going on retard.
>>18482063What does that have to do with anything retard?
I genuinely no longer see any issue with targeting civilians in war.
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>>18482069>What does world war 2 have to do with military actions during world war 2?Can't imagine being this retarded
>>18482217Anyone who pays taxes is supporting capitalist imperialism.
>>18482217>Hey you see those people falling to their deaths and being set on fire? Here is why they deserved it!Thank you, repugnant communist, for giving me a good chuckle through your complete lack of humanity
