No matter how much nordapes cry, Tyre and Athens were always closer in every single aspect than Tyre and Oslo. All western civilization ultimately sprang from the mediterranean and it belongs to mediterranean people not you barbarian ape pretenders, levantines, egyptians, north africans are more kin to Italians and Iberians than you all ever will be.
>>18481524Why do the "chads" al; have hooked noses anon?
>>18481529Very common mediterranean phenotype
>>18481524Thanks anon for this weekend redpill. Nordcucks really need to understand that without Mediterranea they would still be stuck in stone age and ironically in the same civilisation stage that all the people they like to mock.
>>18481524>north africans are more kin to Italians and Iberians than you all ever will beTry telling that to moden day Italians lmao.
>>18481524>principal components>haplogroups>what are those? :DDDDD
>>18481524you seem to believe that brown skinned people are not squatting in the ruins of white civilizations they destroyed... you are both incorrect and retarded. The idea that greeks, north africans, etc., were not white is historically inaccurate, because non whites were slaves in those civilizations until the whites race mixed with them to become brown arabs.
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>>18481566.
>>18481566>>18481570>you are both incorrect and retarded
>>18481560>>18481546>>18481554 Nordcuck seethe lmao. Every single DNA paper proves that Greeks and levantines are mostly neolithic anatolian, and the culture speaks for itself, the mediterranean is the heart of civilization,always were, always will be, not your mudhut in Ostrobothnia
>>18481576Uno biero y pronto puta :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>18481524>I helped you do your homework back in highschool!>If not for me, you would never have become a successful man, you'd have become a bum like me!Obvious cope is obvious. Barely even worth replying to.
>>18481524Based and Talebpilled
>>18481560Unfortunately for you DNA, science and history is on our side. Mediterraneans from today are litteraly the descendants from the mediterraneans of the ancient times. You can cope as you want but here we are speaking facts and not some stupid conspiracy theory about Pltaon being a sweedish blondie.
>>18481593You are the coping one Nordsimian, go crawl back to your frozen fjord you relict archaic abomination
>>18481596>literally the descendants fromthat is what I said, they became brown from race mixing with their black slaves, well blacks and south east asian abbo blacks like native indians are
>>18481606This is outdated and has been disproven by quite literally every DNA study lmaaao
>>18481600I'm not the one who spends his time making pics like that.
>>18481606Usually, when you know nothing about a topic, it’s best to keep quiet. However, I am convinced that from your high scientific background, eventually you will be able to publish a paper about your theory instead of posting bro-science memes.
>>18481629That person is so obviously a troll and mfs are taking the bait lmaaao
Romans were Brown lime me Saar, so pls let me into your country!
Nooo Saar! Southern Europeans are Brown like me! That means I am allowed to receive welfare in the EU!
>>18481644This very same chart shows greeks are closer to levantines than they are to Germans, yoir circle is arbitrary >>18481637This must go hard if you never seen levantines in real life, pic related could easily pass as italian
>>18481656Random palestinian christians, again undistinguishable from Greeks.
>>18481644another one of those gay graphs that means nothing lool
>>18481637Damn, false flaggers aren't even able to do handmade memes anymore. I am italian and spanish and nobody is saying this about southern mediterraneans or levantines. The only critic is islam and still we know how to recognize a true enemy/parasite than a strugglin' bro in his islamic shithole
>>18481576>muh DNAyeah well every single bust of the roman emperors proves otherwise
>>18481662He looks pretty swarthy anon....don't know what you mean
>>18481662Yeah bro, fuck your like...Science and established tried and true methods, look at this aishit slopped reconstruction! It surely disproves a serious peer reviewed paper published in a serious science periodic! My god it absolutely baffles me that people like this exist, these people look at cold hard scientific evidence and just ignore what they don't like...
>We wuz civilizedGets conquered by romans>Not like you northernersGets conquered by literal steppe nomads>Unwashed barbariansHas to get saved from turks by said barbarians>You stole civilizationCan't pay debts like a literal nigger
>>18481673whites have been enslaving dark-hell spawned demons since the dawn of civilization, and the existence of mixed race brownoid bones in white lands only proves that is the case
>>18481662Levantines can be blonde as well btw, its rare, but so are blonde italians and romans
>>18481658Anyone and I really say ANYONE who went to different mediterraneans countries know how local cultures from totally different places share a lot of things in common. The perfect example is the traditionnal dresses for women. Same colors, same shapes for most etc...
>>18481677If you say si bro, I guess every single historian, archaeologist and geneticist is wrong and your schizo ass is right!
>>18481682They are the crystallization of cultural, historical and genetic connections that existed ever since the bronze age, they are quite literally one people and nordoids can never admit that.
>>18481658>>18481656This is the race Jesus belonged to btw.
>>18481678The former princess consort of Morocco could also easily pass as Galician
>>18481682>archaeologist and geneticist is wrongI am sure they did find some brownloid slave bones in southern europe dating from the bronze age, but that doesn't do anything but prove they were enslaved there. Would you dig up a nigger bone in America and claim they were the founding fathers and that America was always a black country? What you are doing is equally retarded, but maybe you are too retarded to understand how retarded you are.
>>18481694Checks out.
>>18481702Elite Burial grounds and noble burials in multiple places disproved this time and time again, there's quite literally a decade of research by serious names in academia patently disproving this claim, all elite samples were indistinguishable from the commoners. You're just proving you are too low IQ to read a scientific paper
>>18481709show me the elite nigger burials that show niggers were really greeks
>>18481524>>18481538>>18481576Northern Europeans have more Neolithic Anatolian than MENAmutts.
>>18481524>All western civilization ultimately sprang from the mediterranean and it belongs to mediterranean people not you barbarian ape pretenders, levantines, egyptians, north africans are more kin to Italians and Iberians than you all ever will be.WrongWestern Civilisation is the former frankish empire plus England. The accomplishments of the West have nothing to do with med-dogs. The Romans have exerted no influence whatsoever onto the West. The West is the creation of Anglos, Franks, and Germans.
>>18481560>curly hair>long faces>aquiline nosesThose are meds, they don't have your ugly germoid features my dear mentally ill spammer
>>18481744claiming Achilles was a jeet while calling anyone else mentally ill is retarded
>>18481576*seething Hue noise
>>18481529Cyrus the great, Egyptian pharaohs, and Greek royals according to Plato had it
>>18481752A light featured Greek is still a Greek, not a Germ/Anglo. Asiatic-featured Germoids were the jeets of ancient History, Roman soldiers even lamented having to serve alongside them because they smelled like shitNobody looked like a Germoid in ancient Greece
>>18481744Make your own movies if you want to see your countrymen playing in them greekboyOh wait, you're too poor for that. Sucks to be you.
>>18481524Most actual Greeks today hate Nafris and Arabs.t. Just traveled round Greece and Athenian taxi-drivers would randomly start sperging out about arab and black migrants
>>18481600Oh nononono, Medsissies our response?
>>18481842How do you even gather this data? Sounds like bs
>>18481524This board would be ten times better if we just removed every greaseball shitalian from posting here.
>>18481845Sorry argenmonkey, but it’s real. Your country isn’t and never will be majority Italian
>>18481662the Julii were an ionian family that stemmed back to the founding of western-mediterranean maritime greek cities, paricularly IOL,- but the name ended up in Rome.Octavians adoptive brother Juba II renamed IOL(/Cherchell) into "Caesarea Mauritaniae" to honor Julius Caesar, as well as the familys connection to the site and their shared philohellenism.Juba II's first book was on Roman archaeology.
>>18481783The geographic distance between "germans" and "southern europeans" is like 200 miles. They are the same people, and they're white. You want to claim brown skinned, race mixed detritus is indigenous to the European continent but that is asinine.
>>18481910>Brown Skinned Levantines are olive skinned, some even light skinned and light featured, just like greks, and are closer to them in a PCA "white" is a made up american bullshit identity
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>>18481931>american bullshitgo back to hell, brownoid
>>18481936You're gonna tell me none of these people could easily pass as Sicilian or Greek?
>>18481937Curiously, according to you, Napoleon would be non white, as he was much closer to Sicilians (Corsican) than to Nords. It's an arbitrarily co structed identity, while meds share a common culture and race
The people calling Levantines "Arab" or "Brown" have never seen an actual Levantine.
>>18481947>according to you, Napoleon would be non whitetake your meds, your strawmen are becoming worse than usual
>>18481910I rejoice in the fact that you want to be me because you are a self-hating Germoid (who wants to be an ugly Germogre?) but I'd never in a million years want to be you. That's why you don't see southern euros wewuzz the vikangz while you see the opposite from ''Nords'' with Rome and Greece 24/7, because we are fine with what we are, unlike you, self-hating inferiority complexed GERM
>>18481937>The race that founds empires CORRECT, he was med. Nordcucks on SUICIDE WATCH
>>18481947Yeah he's a mentally ill amerimutt obsessed with demons, complete mental case, I can only imagine how monstrously fat and hideous he looks irl
>>18481953So long as you aren't trying to claim brown skinned people are European then I have no issue with your retarded nationalism beyond the fact that such balkanization is a weakness.
>>18481910Saar ignore the smell, we are the same saar, kindly open the border so we can flood Rome saar I shouldn't even make fun of Indians because unlike Germs they had civilization and writing thousands of years before them
>>18482006So long as you aren't trying to claim brown skinned people are European then I have no issue with your retarded nationalism beyond the fact that such balkanization is a weakness.
>>18482015>>18481967Nobody is claiming "brown people are european", the fact is "European" is a fake made up identity and levantines are not brown lmao
>>18482015>>18481967These ain't brown people m8
>>18482387>"European" is a fake made up identity>"levantine" and "Arab" are not fake made up identitieslol, you brown skinned people are retarded
>>18482406Arab I agree, yes, levantines are not arab (Or Brown). But levantines, southern europeans and north africans are part of the same genetic cline yes and closer to eachother than to G*rms
>>18482413Nassim Nicholas Taleb, is this you?
>>18481535>two cocktail waitresses at a time
>>18482006I always found it funny that Indoor plumbing and sanitation were invented in India.
>>18481947He came from a Tuscan family that migrate to Corsica, he was central italian
>>18482406Europa was a phoenician princess, illiterate nordnigger...
>>18481524There is no such thing as "mediterranean people". Spaniard are more closely related to Germans than to Moroccans ffs. There are white people and middle easterners not meme categories you made up because it makes you feel better.
>>18482413no they aren't
>>18481744it's funny that whoever made this pic didn't realize what a self-own they were making >so you think greeks were some cool looking chads every woman fantasizes about? actually they looked like small chubby swarthy incels with oval chubby faces. Get it right pol trannies!!okay, if you insist achmed lol
We are kings and such
>>18482941Brad Pitt is ugly, only in Muttmerica could someone with that pitbull-like horrid visage could become a sex symbol. Even low level med actors from trashy soap operas mog him. Germoid features in general are really ugly, tiny quasi-asiatic eyes, short potato noses, square face, fivehead forehead. There's a reason Germoids are so self-hating and wewuzzing, their hate at being Germs
>>18482942Unironically ancient egyptians were meds, yes.
>>18482966>Brad Pitt is ugly,your women think otherwise
>>18481678>>18481697phoenician genes
>>18481600there's no mediterranean race
>>18481870still no source for the data
>>18482387>>18482413levantines are brown as fuck>But levantines, southern europeans and north africans are part of the same genetic cline yes and closer to eachother than to G*rmsthis is not even true, especially not true for north africans
>>18483226meds aren't a real thing tho>>18482966>>18481744he's right, the guy on the left (fresco) looks absolutely like shitbred pitt looks masculine, are you the worthless terrone that believes looking like an effeminate homosexual is a good thing?
>>18481953iberians and north italians are europeans, you should only speak for yourself you calabrian terrone
>>18483264There's, if you have more ANF than STEPPE/WHG you are mediterranean and you have the classical ''med'' look. So the ancient Etruscans were med, the ancient Romans were med, ancient Greeks were meds, modern Italians/Greeks are med. Spaniards/southern French I believe they are a borderline case, depending on the region they might be more ANF or like 50/50. I'd still argue that they look more ''med'' than anything
>>18483288>if you have more ANF than STEPPE/WHG you are mediterraneanthat's nonsense, that's not the definition of mediterranean, and that makes no sense, is someone with 51% anf and 49% yoruba ancestry mediterranean? there's no mediterranean identity, why do losers always bring up irrelevant negroes from the neolithic or mesolithic when they lose an argument?>you are mediterranean and you have the classical ''med'' lookthere's no "classical med look", it doesn't exist, it can't be defined>So the ancient Etruscans were medthey were more related to a finnish person genetically than to someone from lebanon or algeria, and the etruscans never called themselves "mediterranean">the ancient Romans were medsame, they were more related to a finnish person genetically than to someone from lebanon or algeria, and the latins never called themselves "mediterranean">modern Italians/Greeks are medmodern greeks and italians aren't "med", and they're the 2 most heterogeneous nations in europe, a thracian greek and a venetian are more related to germanic than to someone from lebanon
>>18483299not to mention that greece is a fake nation of hellenized bulgarians (thracians and macedonian greeks), albanians (rest of continental greeks), anatolians(cretese), levantines (cypriots) and georgians (pontics), a british guy literally came over there once and said: "we need a a buffer state between europe and the ottoman empire, so now you're greek"
>>18483325that's true, ancient mainland greeks may not have been white but they have basically disappeared completely, no i'm not talking about hellenized anatolians but actual greeks
>>18483343They were part of the levant anatolia continuum
>>18483343Ancient Greeks were undeniably White.No one scoring +80% European Farmer are non-White.
>>18483392nope.They were Entirely on the European side of Anatolians and any shift eastward comes from CHGs, not from Basal demijeets.West Asia was a failed retard state with violent apes running around stacking rocks and killing each other.not civilization.>b-but many mudhutsmudhuts dont make civilization, Greek philosophy makes civilizatioin.MENA still lacks a functional legal system, let alone anything resembling the Greek systems.Are pajeets Mesopotamian? They are closer to the Levant than to Anglos.They are closer to the Levantines on the levant anatolia cline.
>>18483393in a bronze/iron age sense they weren't fully european, they were drifted towards neolithic iranians and chgs, they were probably the least europeans out of all ancient europeans
>>18483392>They were part of the levant anatolia continuuma continuum is arbitrary, you may decide it stops at anatolia, fact is, modern greeks don't have much actual greek ancestry, hellenized anatolians were not originally greek, they were hellenized populations
>>18483299Why are you bringing Lebanon up? Did I say Lebanon? I clearly enunciated what are the countries that have more ANF and the people from those countries tend to look similar. here's a clear med phenotype, you can immediately tell a group of Greeks or Italians (regardless of where they come from) from a group of Scandinavians. Your germoid features are completely different, and I'm sorry that they plague your face but that's no reason to claim us as being ‘’tote the saaame maaan’’, maybe in another life you will be the mediterranean you so desperately crave to be, until then fuck off and do not drag us into your germoid self-hating misery
>>18483288>You are looking at 'em, asshole
>>18483395>Greek philosophy makes civilizatioin.Greek philosophy came from the Levant (and a little bit of Egypt)
>>18483431>Why are you bringing Lebanon up?they border the mediterranean, they are therefore mediterranean>I clearly enunciated what are the countries that have more ANF and the people from those countries tend to look similarthat's not true, anf is irrelevant shit from the neolithic and unrelated to any mediterranean concept>here's a clear med phenotype, you can immediately tell a group of Greeks or Italians (regardless of where they come from) from a group of Scandinavians. that's not "med phenotype", there's no "med phenotype", you can't define it. that's not the definition of a phenotype. greeks and italians are themselves not real groups, they're both meme nations of different peoples>Your germoid features are completely different, and I'm sorry that they plague your face but that's no reason to claim us as being ‘’tote the saaame maaan’’, maybe in another life you will be the mediterranean you so desperately crave to be, until then fuck off and do not drag us into your germoid self-hating miseryno one knows whatever the fuck you're even talking about, there are not mediterranean features, they don't exist, it's a non existent group, your definition of mediterranean that excludes lebanese literally clashes with the definition of your ally in this thread that includes egyptian, it's the most bullshit fake identity ever that no one ever adopted, the greeks and romans didn't call themselves mediterranean
>>18483444he's from bergamo, in his case he has preserved a high percentage of italic IA ancestry, can't say the same for many terronis
>>18483448Nope. Not a single levantine or Egyptian produced a Plato or an Aristotle.
>>18483447I didn't make a geographic argument, I made a genetic argument (the populations who have the highest ANF tend to look similar, which is something anyone who's not delusional and with functioning eyeballs can easily see). So you are just arguing against a straw-man of your own creation, not against my argument
>>18483413nope.They had 10% more CHG than modern Northern Europeans.They had less CHG than Yamnaya.They were an 80% European Farmer people.They are completely within the range of European genetics.Simple fact is browns want to claim them, Whites dont mind losing them.That's how you know theyre White and not brown.
>>18483486Pythagoras (who Plato worshipped) was literally half-levantine and spent most of his adult life studying in the Levant. He's not even the only one. All Greek knowledge either came from, or was developed on top of knowledge from, Lebanon.
>>18483288Italians share more ancestry with Germans than with Palestinians. Mediterranean race is a myth
>>18483494Those wignats are retarded and they need to follow a white supremacist view of history, so they draw imaginary lines where below that line people are all subhumans and above that line they are all ubermensch. They have no ancient history and they started writing like 2 weeks ago comparatively speaking, so they need to cope somehow with their lack of ancient history and appropriate other people's history as ''uhwhite'', it's pathetic but then again they are deeply insecure mentally ill rejects
>>18483489>I didn't make a geographic argumentso am i, there are massive genetic differences between southern europeans>(the populations who have the highest ANF tend to look similar, which is something anyone who's not delusional and with functioning eyeballs can easily see)delusional nonsense, there's no mediterranean phenotypes and ANF is irrelevant shit from the neolithic, the last refuge when everyone loses an argument is mentioning ANFs since they're an irrelevant useless population why can't you define the med phenotype? not even southern europeans look like each other, even just focusing on greeks and italians , they are themselves not real groups, they're both meme nations of different peoplesthere are no mediterranean features, your definition of mediterranean that excludes lebanese already clashes with the definitions presented by your allies in this thread that extend it to the egyptians, it's the most bullshit fake modern online identity ever created, no ancient civilization ever called itself mediterranean, not the romans, not the greeks, not the punics, not the phoenicians not the egyptians, none of them did
>>18483506I already told you that I don't make a geographic argument, retard
>>18483448>Greek philosophy came from the Levantlolthere isn't a single recorded precursor to any Greek philosopher
>>18483506mediterranean race is less than a myth, these etruscans from these frescos were genetically closer to a scottish person than an ancient greek and never called themselves mediterranean, mediterranean for them was purely a geographical term
>>18483490ah no you are being dishonest, context is important, yamnaya have chg ancestry but it's different from additional non yamnaya chg ancestry that greeks obtained during the bronze age
>>18483515ancestry is not geography
>>18483510The whining of a self-hating Germoid on 4chin do not matter, the Mediterranean label exists for a reason and it's widely used by historians to designate ancient Greece and Rome, you can cope and seethe as much as you want. Maybe you should've built a civilization in northern Europe instead of shitting in mudhuts for thousands of years unable to write or read until the Middle Ages, just going on raids to steal other people's shit like ancient lumpenproles
>>18483541i'm not germanic, you did not answer any of my points, of course, because they're all correct and you're wrong>the Mediterranean label exists for a reasonyes to define a body of water, it was never meant to be used as a race or ethnicity and that's why no civilization ever did that, please find me a source were romans or greeks call themselves racially mediterranean (spolier: it doesn't exist)>and it's widely used by historians to designate ancient Greece and Romebecause they're in the mediterranean, not because they belong to some special race, IA italics were genetically closer to an irish than to IA greeksdefine this "med phenotype" that only italians and greeks supposedly have
>>18483552It's the features you can commonly see in southern Euros but you very rarely see in self-hating Germoid ogres like yourself
>>18483564i'm not germanic>It's the features you can commonly see in southern Eurossuch as? name them>>18483564>winckelmannnot an ancient greek or roman, find me a source where ancient greeks or romans call themselves racially mediterranean, also define this "med phenotype" that only greeks and italians haveyour ridiculous definition of mediterranean that only includes italians and greeks is literally unique to you, no one thinks that
