>Manchukuo was immediately infamous for its high crime rate, as Japanese-sponsored gangs of Chinese, Korean, and Russian gangsters fought one another for the control of opium houses, brothels, and gambling dens.[117] There were nine different Japanese or Japanese-sponsored police/intelligence agencies operating in Manchukuo, who were all told by Tokyo that Japan was a poor country and that they were to pay for their own operations by engaging in organised crime.[118] Is state-sponsored organized crime a net benefit to the society that conducts it, or a net loss? It seems to me that no matter how much treasure organized crime can bring (as a substitution for direct looting), it inevitable imports that criminal culture/imperial corruption back to the homeland.
>>18482322You're really asking if organized crime is good for society?No anon, organized crime is not good for society. Gangs, drugs, and prostitution are not good for society. Glad I could clear that up for you.
It's called Manchuria and always will be. Fuck you, faggot Jew.
>>18482322Organized crime is great for corrupt politicians looking to line their pockets but terrible for everyone else
>>18482341It's not even good for them either, really. You'll be even richer and your life/wealth will be more secure if you control an orderly system rather than a chaotic one.
>>18482322Define 'benefit', please. The general population certainly doesn't benefit, if that's what you mean. But it's very useful for divide and rule in a situation were there are no comprador elites.>It seems to me that no matter how much treasure organized crime can bring (as a substitution for direct looting), it inevitable imports that criminal culture/imperial corruption back to the homeland.Not really, any state willing to directly endorse and sponsor organized crime is certainly already corrupt, and Japan had a longevous and well developed culture of organized crime long before Manchukuo was even founded. And regardless, you could probably do much better with normal governance if mere wealth extraction is your goal. This was an operation meant to neutralize the population and its minorities.
>>18482350I have to add: The situation of inter-war Manchukuo is obviously very particular and special and doesn't carry over to other cases.
>>18482334The -kuo was a suffix in Chinese dialect for -sovereignstate.Nihonguo = JapanZhuangguo = China.At the time Manchukuo was the Manchu state, still under the legitimate heir to the Manchu kingdom whom Chinese used to call the Qing. Japan had troops there to protect it against Russia and China, but as OP notes Japan didn't control it. It's not Japan's fault the Manchu dynast was too weak to do his job
>>18482469Iirc the Manchus themselves named it the Great Qing. It's not omethign the Chinese called it. It was what it was called.>>18482469Japan controlled it, for all intents and purposes. It was a puppet state, it did whatever Japan needed.>It's not Japan's fault the Manchu dynast was too weak to do his jobPuyi being able to put on his own shoes was a minor miracle in on itself. And regardless, by the thirties whatever reserve of loyalists the Qing might have had at the beginning of the civil war (and it wasn't that small an amount, believe it or not) was long depleted.
>>18482322Functional countries vastly prefer regular taxation to state sponsored organized crime, but Imperial Japan was a clusterfuck and Manchukuo doubly so.
>>18482523"Regular taxation to state sponsored organized crime" those are the same thing.
>>18482523>but Imperial Japan was a clusterfuck The political side fared badly as they didn't stop the military takeover. War escalated in China over a missing Japanese soldier.
>>18483185My favourite death cult, Imperial Japan.
>>18482334its womanchuria you stupid fucking chud
