Sumerian texts say the first five cities came before the flood. The flood was ~9,700 BC. So why do historians say sites like Eridu and Shuruppak are only ~3,000 BC? Eridu was found buried under a thick layer of mud, pic rel
>no bitesGuess that’s a win for conspiratards
>>18484637>The flood was ~9,700 BCWAS IT REALLY?Honestly I doubt all dates, dating and chronologyAlso probably you want to look for old Summer under water of Persian Gulf
>>18486102not reacting to obvious trolling like "the flood was in 9700 bc" is now a win for conspiratards?hang yourself.
so where did you get the date for the flood
>>18487120>>18484637The Greco-Babylonian historian Berossus dated the flood to have happened 1,809 years before Cyrus conquered Babylon, roughly around 2348 BC, which is interestingly around the same time the biblical flood would have happened. However, I find that odd considering Gilgamesh (who would have realistically lived around 2800 to 2500 BC) lived long after the flood according to the Epic of Gilgamesh.Besides, there is no evidence of a global flood happening around this time period.
>>18487156take corrections for phantom time
>>18487156>>18487159>However, I find that odd considering Gilgamesh (who would have realistically lived around 2800 to 2500 BC) lived long after the flood according to the Epic of Gilgamesh. >Besides, there is no evidence of a global flood happening around this time period.Berossus' dating is also far too late for the flood to have happened since it's right in the middle of the Akkadian Empire.
>>18484637No, based on the Sumerian King List, the flood would have happened around 2900 BC>>18487156>>18487176This, the Sumerian King List actually dates the flood to have happened around 2900 BC and interestingly there's actually evidence to suggest a devastating flood happened in the Mesopotamia around that time.
>>18487193>interestingly there's actually evidence to suggest a devastating flood happened in the Mesopotamia around that time.tell me more
>>18487193>>18487205There was no flood of any kind. Certainly not of the scale proposed by mythologyThe tide in the region has decreased throughout the years and there's no way of supporting a flood theory
>>18484637The first legendary king of Sumer was Alulim, who ruled the city of Eridu. According to the Sumerian King List, Eridu is considered the first city in the world founded by the gods before the flood. The carbon dating of Eridu's founding that we know of is 5400 BC, so this flood would have been between 6000-5400 BC, or 5400-4800 if we consider that the city actually managed to survive the flood. The first historically proven king from the Sumerian King List was Enmebaragesi, who ruled the city of Kish around 2700 BC.Ziusudra, the Sumerian Noah, lived 7 generations after Alulim. The nine antediluvian kings of the Sumerian succession are:>Alulim (Eridu)>Alalngar (Eridu)>En-men-lu-ana (Bad-tibira)>En-men-gal-ana (Bad-tibira)>Dumuzid, the shepherd (Bad-tibira)>En-sipad-zid-ana (Larak)>En-men-dur-ana (Sippar)>Ubara-Tutu (Shuruppak)>Ziusudra (Shuruppak)Ziusudra is frequently cited as the son or descendant of the eighth antediluvian king, Ubara-Tutu of Shuruppak, the king after En-men-dur-ana of Sippar and the penultimate king before the Flood. Interestingly, there were 9 patriarchs in Adam's lineage before Noah, and excluding Adam, there were 7 generations between Adam and Noah, just as there were between Alulim and Ziusudra. They form the group known as the "antediluvian patriarchs" (who lived before the flood):>Adam>Seth>Enos>Cainan>Mahalalel>Jared>Enoch>Methuselah>Lamech>NoahThe apocrypha say that Lamech was not Noah's biological father. When Noah was born, he was an albino child, his skin was as white as snow and as red as a rose, his hair was as white as wool, and his eyes were so bright that, when he opened them, they illuminated the whole house like the sun.
>>18487229>There was no flood of any kind. Certainly not of the scale proposed by mythologyLLMs are telling me that rivers shifted their courses and that was probably pretty much a devastating flood for the locals.
>>18487336Terrified, Lamech confronted his wife, Bitenosh. He believed the child was not his, but rather that of one of the rebellious angels (Watchers), as he thought the baby resembled an angelic being. Not knowing what to do, Lamech did not visit Enoch personally, but instead asked his own father, Methuselah, to travel to the ends of the earth to speak with Enoch, who would become the angel Metatron.In any case, the antediluvian patriarchs more closely resemble the Apkallu, especially Enoch. The Apkallu were semi-divine sages sent by Enki to bring civilization, arts, and knowledge to humanity before the Flood. They are often described as having hybrid characteristics (such as half-fish/eagle, half-man) or possessing an intelligence and connection to the divine far above normal mortals.>Uanna (Oannes): The first sage. Associated with Alulim of Eridu and Adapa, the first human created by Enki. Corresponds Adam, the first man>Uannedugga: Second sage. Associated with Alalngar of Eridu. Corresponds to Seth, the son of Adam who replaced Abel>Enmedugga: Third sage. Associated with En-men-lu-ana of Bad-tibira. Corresponds to Enos, who in the Bible is the first to know/invoke the name of YHWH>Enmegalamma: Fourth sage. Associated with En-men-gal-ana of Bad-tibira. Corresponds to Cainan>Enmebulugga: Fifth sage. Associated with Dumuzid, the shepherd of Bad-tibira. Corresponds to Mahalalel>An-Enlilda: Sixth sage. Associated with En-sipad-zid-ana of Larak. Corresponds to Jared>Utuabzu: The seventh sage. Associated with En-men-dur-ana of Sippar. It is the direct parallel of Enoch, as the Bīt mēseri says of him: "Utuabzu, who ascended to heaven." (ša ana šamê ilū). The Bible relates that Enoch "walked with God and was no more, for God took him" (Genesis 5:24)According to the Bible, Adam was created around 4200-4100 BC, more than 6,000 years ago. This is not so far from the Sumerian King List.
>>18487336>carbon dating
