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If God (Love) is not anything perceived, then when you point to a plant, what you're pointing at is not God itself, it's a form, an image within perception.

So where is Love in that moment?

Not in the plant as an object. Not in the pointing. Not in anything the eyes report. Love is the reality that makes the whole experience possible, but is not contained in any part of it.

Think of it like this: The plant is a perception (a form, changing, temporary). Your seeing is a process in the mind. But the capacity to be aware at all, the quiet, unchanging presence behind it. That's closer to what is meant by God.
You never actually see Love the way you see a plant. You are aware because of It.
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>>18485950
You're aware because of the thing inside your skull
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>>18485950
>Love
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>>18485950
Digits and Jesus loves and forgives you.
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>>18485971
Protip: the definition your ego gives to forgiveness is not its real meaning.
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>>18485950
And that's exactly why universalism is the only moral theological position to take.
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>>18485978
Protip: The flesh melting off your rotting body in hell is real if you don't repent. Jesus loves you.
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>>18485981
If he'd love me, he wouldn't condemn anyone to Hell. ECT is morally bankrupt however you look at it, and there's nothing about "love" in that.
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>>18485979
Universalism, especially Christian Universalism, teaches that ultimately all souls are reconciled with God.

Truth teaches that separation from God never truly happened in Reality, so awakening is inevitable because God's creation cannot be permanently lost.

Both therefore move away from fear-based religion and toward restoration, healing, and ultimate salvation for all.
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>>18485990
Protip: the definition your ego gives to love is not its real meaning. Jesus loves you, but if the Father wishes to thrown your sinful carcass into hell to be ripped apart by demons and destroyed by the hot flames that's your choice. You must embrace God's love or be condemned. In your mundane life you accept physical laws and realize how life is full of risks, and you plan accordingly. But you spit in the face of your creator and pretend as if he doesn't exist. Jesus loves you, and if you would just get on your knees and beg him to save you from the fires of hell, that you confess Christ is Lord and God raised him from the dead, it would be done. You'd have sincere faith.
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>>18485979
>>18485995
Universalism usually says: God created the world, humans sinned or became estranged from God, the world is real, salvation restores relationship with God, evil and suffering are real conditions though temporary.

In most forms of Universalism, creation is fundamentally good but fallen.

Truth says something far more radical: the separation from God never actually occurred, the physical universe is a projection of mistaken perception, the world is not ultimately real, sin is not real in the ultimate sense it is only error or misperception, salvation is awakening from illusion.

The difference is enormous. Universalism usually heals the soul within creation. Truth questions the reality of the entire perceptual framework called 'the world.'
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>>18486003
No it does not, it creates an false God that does not care if his creations become slaves to sin, since in this theology, is impossible to sin even to exist after the resurrection. Nothing matters in universalism, it's not reconciliation with God, since in order for that to happen you need to follow his laws, and if anything I do can't condemn me, there's an absence of law, there's anarchy, meaning it is actually a satanic belief to have. I could somewhat understand someone embracing some sort of partial universalism (like the idea that you can get out of hell, and that you can actually repent in hell), but still has the problem that there's no way to follow God's law in hell since you're already dead, and there's no way to show real repentance there.
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>>18485999
>Christ
What's the definition of Christ?
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>>18486500
I AM THAT I AM
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>>18486527
And thats all that I Am. I'm popeye the salty man. Toot toot.



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