In ancient rome, there were children who were born to be slaves and sent to the mines to die.Do you know how horribly brutal this was? Imagine being taken from your parents and sent to a mine, being barely able to breathe, scrapes and sores on your body that would never heal, 14 hour days, being beaten if you cried.It blows my mind to think that slavery was a real thing that existed.That you can be born into slavery and be forced to work to death while being treated as property and physically abused.Your master could kill you if he wanted to. You weren't even seen as human.Even slaves who tried to kill themselves were shackled to make it impossible to do so.
>>18545104>In ancient rome, there were children who were born to be slaves and sent to the mines to die.I understand that they would be used as onaholes first. You can't make a baby dig rocks, but you can put a dick in it - the Romans were efficient like that.
>>18545104>That you can be born into slavery and be forced to work to death while being treated as property and physically abused.>Your master could kill you if he wanted to. You weren't even seen as human.>Even slaves who tried to kill themselves were shackled to make it impossible to do so.If you think about it for a bit, this literally describes your current situation. The kind of physical abuse they subject you to is more subtle (after all, it needs to generate profits, not resentment) but everything else is self-evident.
>>18545296>If you think about it for a bitsorry, we're all not economic illiterate marxist retards like yourselfyour "solution" to this "problem" is having the state literally enslave you like OP said happened to the romans
>>18545318Notice how this particular slave is enslaved not just physically but mentally. Observe how it lashes out psychotically against imaginary enemies (totally in the room with us right now). How is this not a product of systematic abuse?
>>1854532795% of marxist bootlickers support stalin and north koreayou were saying?also workers taking over the means will not grant them less working hours or more resourcesplease read bohm bawerk
>>18545104>FOOK NORF!>SOUF FOREVA!>NOD RACIST JUST DON´ LIKE U!
>>18545104Mining always fucking sucked, even with gunpowder it still sucked and even now with robots and safety equipment if fucking sucks. Also still better than Capri or Baiae if you were a child.
>>18545104Being a slave in Rome was still less bad than being a slave in Sparta because most slaves in Rome belonged to citizens, while in Sparta they belonged to the Spartan state itself. Roman slavery had a great variation in treatment, as the quality of life of the slave depended on the temperament of each citizen and the function performed, alternating between extreme cruelty and social ascension and manumission, while the negative side for Sparta lay in the total lack of individuality of the helots, who were all equal before state control, suffering institutionalized massacres and collective oppression without a chance of liberation. Therefore, most of the slaves in the Roman mines, one of the worst fates, belonged to the State. What strikes me most about Roman slavery is that there were gladiators of citizen origin who, because of the great phenomenon that was the Colosseum, could participate and be killed by gladiators (who were mostly owned by wealthy citizen businessmen called lanistas, but unlike the common slave, who only received only food, a place to sleep, a bit of medical care and time off on religious holidays, they gained training, weapons, fame and a share of the lanista's money if they won, to buy their freedom or be hired as bodyguards for wealthy citizens and guarantee privileges with the Roman nobility fanatical about competition in the Colosseum) who enjoyed impunity if the people or emperor allowed it.Also: In Ancient Rome, supreme authority over slaves belonged exclusively to the pater familias (father of the family). He held absolute power over the slaves. Women could only exercise this control in his absence or if they were unmarried. This is why, not ironically, the modern word Family derives from famulus (slave), because of the Father of the Family and not his wife.
>>18545361Goes to show how cucked the modern time is in regards to men and their worth.Who the fuck agreed to this modern "partnership" with a woman is beyond my understanding.
>>18545365Men were under the pater familias too.
>>18545371I know, I'm talking strictly about the modern partnership between men and women. I can't imagine a roman citizen being so humiliated and emasculated by his wife as many modern men are.
>>18545104i wish i could have a nice white slaveboy
>>18545332>you were saying?I was saying you were abused so badly as a child that you've developed psychosis.
>>18545104I don't remember that source, maybe somebody smarter than me could find it again, but I found an account of agricultural slaves and it was even worse.Basically, they belonged to some rich sob who also owned a villa. The slaves spent most of their time in some dank basement, chained, and let out only to toil the fields. Otherwise, they spent their time in complete darkness and with no ability to move around. The man who recorded that encounter said that they looked like rabid animals and they were chained for a reason. I pressume because they all went crazy and would maul anyone to death if they had a chance.>>18545296Yes, sitting on your ass and playing video games, smoking weed and eating your mother's tendies is as bad as being a Roman slave in the mines. Sure, buddy. Let me guess... You were a bright kid but school mind broke you with its brainwashing so now you have to flip burgers for a living? Or whatever lies you tell yourself to explain why you are such a failure.
>>18545394>ya bro I know I support north korea, but YOU are the sycophantic bootlickerunreal
>>18545104>Imagine being taken from your parents and sent to a mine, being barely able to breathe, scrapes and sores on your body that would never heal, 14 hour days, being beaten if you cried.But enough about XIX cent. England
>>18545411Black slaves in the US had it pretty good compared to the Caribbean where they were worked to death on sugar plantations and died at huge rates. They were all male too, no women so they couldn't even get laid.
>>18545458>so they couldn't even get laidBussy
>>18545411> Otherwise, they spent their time in complete darkness and with no ability to move aroundThis is definitely bullshit, because it would ruin their muscles and render them unable to work the fields
>>18545411>You were a bright kid but school mind broke you with its brainwashing so now you have to flip burgers for a living?No, you had it right the first time, he lives with mom and eats tendies, no work. School actually broke his mind with brainwashing because his communist stooge teacher taught him this horseshit, and the public indoctrination centers taught him to regurgitate the correct opinions back at his authority figures.
>>18545458>Black slaves in the US had it pretty good compared to the Caribbean where they were worked to death on sugar plantations and died at huge rates.I don't think anybody has yet figured out why US slaves were breeding at replacement rates, actually. It's apparently something unique for generational slavery-systems and we can't claim that others hadn't been trying to get there while the US certainly hasn't lacked for trying to get theirs to perish either.
>>18545104Wait till you learn that for most of history that same shit happened to freeborn kids as well.
>>18545458in Brazil they selectively bred slaves to be physically powerful but also really dumb so they wouldn't question what was going on. they had one guy fuck and impregnate 20 women at once. after end of slavery in 1880s the blacks all fucked off to the countryside to inbreed themselves further over more generations--a few women went down to the cities to be prostitutes.
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>>18545327You just compared yourself to a roman slave. You might actually be retarded.
>>18545296>literally
>>18545384Then read A History of Private Life. Ancient Rome had a cucking epidemic because getting gifts from their illicit lovers was the only way for respectable married women to get money. Fathers of girls also wrote strict marriage contracts that severely curtailed their son-in-law's authority over the wife. These contracts superceded the pater familias prerogative. Plus the wife didn't usually belong to her husband, she and her husband were both the property of the husband's father, so the husband had even less rights than his wife because he didn't have a marriage contract to shield him from his dad's unlimited power the way she did.
>>18545589It may simply have been a matter of good living and working conditions in the US compared to anywhere else. If you look at Jamaica, Hispaniola, Guyana, Surinam, the Antilles, basically any other slave society at the time, the work there was much worse than in the US, particularly on sugar plantations, molasses rendering plants, rum distilleries and salt-panning sites. Picrel is called Witte Pan (White Pan), a salt field on the island of Bonaire worked by slaves until the 1860s. The slaves had to wade, six days a week, through shallow, repeatedly reflooded sea water, find large deposits of salt, hammer those into smaller pieces and load them up for transport. If the sun was shining, they'd work in extremely high temperatures from sunup until sundown. If there was a storm, the only place they could hide was a series of tiny shacks, too small to stand up straight in, right on the coast. In any case, their legs would become a mess of oozing, half-healed sores from all the sharp salt deposits and the sea water basins so salty they were pink. That, I think, was quite enough to make sure they had trouble getting their slaves to reproduce.The US South, for all its faults, also had better infrastructure and a more steady food supply, so slaves had a better diet than they would have had on the densely planted riverbanks of Guyana or on the smaller islands of the Caribbean. Imagine a situation where a local harvest failed, for instance. In the US South, the plantation owner, not wanting to lose productive slaves to hunger, could simply travel up the Mississippi or down to a local Gulf or Atlantic harbor and buy corn, wheat, potatoes or whatever in bulk. But in Guyana or Jamaica, for instance, the plantation owner would need to send a letter to the nearest mainland, hope that letter arrives without too much delay, and even then wait several weeks for a shipload of overpriced food to come into the local harbor, by which point the slave population would be starving.
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