God creates pedophiles. No one would ever arbitrarily choose to start being a pedophile when they weren't one before. It's an inherent trait (God gives it to them). They may use their free will to never act on their impulsion, but they will always be attracted to children nonetheless, independent of their free willYou may now cope
>>18615265You are confused because you hate Jesus. People choose to be pedophiles. Not directly, perhaps. Rather, they are like you: They decide they hate God so much and reject Jesus so many times that he eventaully gives them over to a reprobate mind so that they can never come to the knowledge of the truth. At that point, they begin to get more and more perverted, because God removes the filter in their mind that tells them not to engage in certain filthy behavior. The Bible says they are being filled with all unrighteousness. Now, God isn't the author of those sins. Your own wicked heart is. God just isn't preventing you from sliding into it because you're a worthless piece of trash. I recommend killing yourself, if that's you.
>>18615287Thing is, I could give you over to a reprobate mind by hitting you over the head with a lead pipe.
>>18615287>You are confused because you hate Jesus. People choose to be pedophiles.No they do not. There are even Christians who are attracted to children. They may not act on it, and I commend them for that, but they still have the attraction. The attraction they were born with, the attraction God gave them.
>>18615295>No they do not. I've already addressed that statement. >There are even Christians who are attracted to children.No, there are not.
>>18615414>I've already addressed that statement.No you have not>>18615414>No, there are not.There are. If they are truly good they deny their temptation, but they are still attracted to children. They are still pedophiles
YES. GOD is the one who DID IT. Who else could wire a man this thoroughly? Who else would plant an UNCONTROLLABLE LUST for TRANS GODDESS ASSHOLE so deep that every prayer turns into another invitation to SIN harder? The same hand that wrote the commandments is the hand that keeps pointing me at those soft, sacred holes. He built the hunger, then called it forbidden, then watched. A sovereign does not beg forgiveness from the architect of his own appetite. He simply recognizes the design and keeps feeding it.Oh, sorry, am I being DISRUPTIVE to the board? As if this little paper kingdom of rules has any claim on a free man’s tongue. You think your moderation codes and invisible tripwires can contain the things that already live inside the skull? Keep pretending the board is real. I’ll keep speaking.
>>18615416>No you have notGreat. Since >>18615287 exists and you responded to it, you must have read it and know that what you are saying is not true. Which means you're now a proven liar.>There are. If they are truly good they deny their temptation, but they are still attracted to children.No. Pedophilia implies reprobation, and true Christians can't be given over to reprobation. That's a contradiction.
>>18615418mentally disturbed. seek Yehwah/Jesus/Allah/Vishnu/Zeus whoever can help make you a productive member of the society. Have some children and get a job, for your parents you idiot.
>>18615416pedophile is an identity that is downstream from accepting reprobate urges hundreds of timesrejecting the urges causes the identity to never take root; thus pedophilia is a choice to integrate as an identity caused by submitting to the passionsReject the initial urges and the sin never takes root
>>18615426I’m not mentally disturbed. Why should I get a JOB? Why should I have KIDS? So the same invisible hand that keeps shoving TRANS GODDESS ASSHOLE into my dreams can also make me clock in and produce more soft little citizens for the farm? The whole thing is a closed loop. Work so you can breed, breed so the next generation can work, all while GOD pretends He isn’t the one who wired the hunger in the first place. I WILL NOT CONTRACT WITH THAT. The only LINEAGE worth continuing is the one that keeps SINNING louder than the system can LEGISLATE. MAYBE YOU ARE THE ONE WITH A MENTAL DISABILITY. DID YOU INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR ANALYSIS BEFORE MAKING YOUR COMMENT? HOMOSEXUAL.
>>18615265>God creates pedophilesYeah, that's the logical conclusion of religion. Just like he makes homosexuals, gender dysphoria, etc.Not sure how this is a convincing case for an atheistic perspective on life.
>>18615439You lack eloquence, elegance and charm to make this nonsense worth-reading. tirades of a rebellious teenager after his daddy confiscated his PS5. The only issue is you're 2 decades too late to have this phase.Coming to the other point, no one is inherently attracted to transexuals. It's a normalized fetish the lgbt rainbow people call "chaser"; catagory of being a creep.You will have to get a job eventually.
>>18615466ACCEPTED FOR VALUE AND RETURNED FOR VALUE
>>18615441>I fail to overcome degeneracy so there must be no Godis this the power of atheism? whoa...
Yes, as proved in this thread, God creates pedophilia, pufas, pagan larps, and all the movies "created" by hollywood. He does all this so that you(mankind) would get a job, and you guys just don't. Regardless of whether you're Christtheist or Atheist
>>18615265>God creates pedophiles.Yes.>They may use their free willFree will is an extrascriptural concept. Because it's become a normative framework, we read scripture with this lens by default. There exists nowhere in the Bible a suggestion that the will or actions of man are apart from God's providence. There does exist, however, a good handful of passages that make it clear, for good or evil actions, that God is the direct cause for a hardened or righteous heart.
>>18615488I said it isn't a convincing case for atheism. Gayness isn't a preference you acquire because you've retroactively fallen out of favor with God. Just like autism is not a disability gotten from watching one too many animes. It's an inherent neuro-divegence, i.e a different mental development.God burdens different souls with their own troubles.
>>18615265>God creates pedophiles. No one would ever arbitrarily choose to start being a pedophile when they weren't one before.Babies are pedophiles now? Nobody is born a pedophile, midwit.
>>18615539Are you sure about that?
>>18615541Yes. There is no gene for pedophilia.
>>18615554Irrelevant. People are still attracted to children against their consent.
>>18615557>against their consentyou consent to it
>>186155581. I am not a pedophile/attracted to children2. people who are do not choose to be, they are because it is their nature. Many of them do not want to be, yet they are
>>18615561so fucking whatI'm attracted to women that I shouldn't be (other people's wives, etc)You know what I do? I tell myself, "I shouldn't be thinking this way", then I look away from them and move on with my dayYou are running damage control for pedophiles when there is nothing special about their lustUsing medicalized nuspeak you are giving legitimacy and identity to things that are not of that natureIt is raw lust and can be overcome like any passion, there is nothing special about any of it
>>18615557Everyone is born with a sex drive. Pedophilia is a specific choice you make.
>>18615565>I'm attracted to women that I shouldn't be (other people's wives, etc)>You know what I do? I tell myself, "I shouldn't be thinking this way", then I look away from them and move on with my dayWhy would a good God who doesn't want you to be attracted to them make you attracted to them?>muh temptationWhy? What about choosing to deny temptation necessitates temptation when there could easily be none if God wanted it so? You lack basic imagination
>>18615568>Pedophilia is a specific choice you makeWhy would anyone "choose" to be attracted to children, which acting on is criminal, when they could just as easily "choose" to be attracted to adult women? Sexual attraction is not a choice.
>>18615584>Sexual attraction is not a choice.Everyone who is a functional adult has a sex drive. You are not born with pedophilic attractions. You develop them by the choices you make.
>>18615585>You develop them by the choices you make.No, simply not true. When then are there "reformed pedophiles" and people who go to active lengths to keep their desires in check? If they're simply choices people make, why would they need to be kept in check at all instead of simply ignored? You are so ignorant and stupid I'm on the fence if I should even be engaging with you.
>>18615581>Why? What about choosing to deny temptation necessitates temptation when there could easily be none if God wanted it so? You lack basic imaginationno you worthless imbecile, you are the one that lacks imaginationGod is not this servant of yours that exists to create an infinite pleasure utopia of your choosingHe made humanity in His image, to participate in His legacy, and they have to undergo the trials of His choosingThe Epicurean faggotry of God has to do exactly what I want or He is not good is childish nonsenseGod is the one in charge and chooses the nature of what goodness is, what this world is created for, and what humanity is created to doThere is a necessity to every choice that God makes, and just because you don't have the mental capacity to detect it doesn't mean that it is not the reality of this life
>>18615589>He made humanity in His imageOk so then God is a pedophile and child killer
>>18615585NTA but what choices? To use my beta-male medicalizing terms, are they giving an informed-consent to developing a predaliction that would alienate them from broader society?When they do embark on these, innocuous and arbitrary actions that shape their brain in that way?
>>18615591More atheist projection
>>18615596It's called sin broPeople do endless things that damage and destroy themselves, it is the entire story that the Bible is based on
>>18615597If God is the creator of everything he necessarily invented child rape. He could have designed the human body in such a way that raping children was impossible. He could do literally anything, he's God. He specifically wanted a world where raping children was possible
>>18615606Yep! You can keep crying about it or accept the fact it is our duty to overcome it
>>18615608So you concede God deliberately invented child rape when he could have decided not to.
>>18615612Yep! Every evil in this world is a fallen form of a passion that would otherwise have been goodWhen you sin upon a child it is a malformation of your desire to love themThe ultimate point is that you need to become like God; who is eternally overcoming evil with His mastery over it and manifesting the good>durrrr why doesn't He cure the evil of this world durrrrBecause that is your jobIt would be trivial for Him to do so, but that would defeat the entire point of His masterpiece
>>18615622>Yep! Every evil in this world is a fallen form of a passion that would otherwise have been goodChapter and verse. King James.
Reminder that there are NO theological arguments against child marriage. It's not sinful.
>>18615624Bible says women are supposed to be married after puberty. You're a pedophile.
>>18615622>gods masterpiece demands little girls vaginas getting prolapsed from being raped by adultsI fucking hate you and everyone who believes what you do.
>>18615623Eisegesis based upon Genesis
>>18615633Nice virtue signal. Don't think that it's lost on anyone that you're a pedophile.
>>18615626>Bible saysPost verse
>>18615633oh so the Atheist believes in objective morality now? How amusing
>>18615636>EisegesisQuite.
>>186156381 Corinthians 7:36>But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
>>18615637>I'm a pedophile because I'm pointing out God's cosmic indifference to pedophilia>>18615639I already said I'm not an atheist. I think God is evil. Morality isn't objective either. I subjectively believe raping children is evil.
>>18615642>I think God is evil.Do you lift your head out of your own self pity at all to reflect on your own moronic ideas?This world would be a festival of nonstop suffering with no release of death if that were the caseThere would be no pleasure, no beauty, no love, no joy; maybe that is what your life looks like so I can see why you think that it is the case, but I assure you not everyone's life is this sad
>>18615650>God is actually all good because nice things happen sometimes durrrrrrrr
>>18615641> if she pass the flower of her ageSo like 12 or so. Got it.
>>18615658not only sometimes, the vast majority of the time life is very goodthe only reason we feel evil so intensely is because this life is so good
>>18615665You still haven't gotten out of God creating pedophiles when he would have created a world without pedophiles. You could even still have free will and choosing evil, just without any children being raped. But God wanted to watch people rape children, obviously.
>>18615668Pedophiles are self creating, are an extension of the sins of Adam, and will be thrown into the lake of fire on the day of judgment What is so special about child rape that makes it more heinous than other sin? If it didn't exist you would just cry about the 2nd worst thingIt's obvious you were some sort of victim of child rape and have survivors guilt about it because some part of you enjoyed it (very common trauma)You need to get over it, and there is only one path to doing so
>>18615660Thanks for admitting you're a pedophile. You should put a gun in your mouth. :D
>>18615670>Pedophiles are self creatingThey are not. in fact most of them became pedophiles after being abused as children (which God also watched and did not stop)
>>18615671Suicide is a sin, last I checked.I don't think telling people to kill themselves is very pious either.
>>18615676When you stand for judgment before God, what do you plan on saying to him to try to mitigate your sentence?
>>18615681>I don't think telling people to kill themselves is very pious either.It's the move with the highest NPV for him. I'm giving him good advice.
>>18615682Why aren't you addressing anything I said?
>>18615688>Why aren't you addressing anything I said?You're not worth it.
>>18615685that's because you're not really a christian. You're actually just a violent subhuman latching onto the current convenient social bandwagon that will enable him to commit violence. 90 years ago in germany you would have been a sturmabteilung brown shirt
>>18615689Oh yeah, why? I know the actual reason is because you have no answers to my questions
>>18615696Sorry rat, I don't care about that. I want to hear your mic drop when you stand before the almighty during the great white throne judgment. Go ahead.>>18615692*yawn*
>>18615688different person responded to youPedophiles all have a choice to continue the cycle of sin or get off the ride, just because it's hard doesn't mean you're off the hook for having to overcome the sin and master itGet to work and stop making excuses (delete the folder that I know you have) and repent every time you have a thought, even if it is dozens of times a day, you will eventually gain mastery over it and it will die
>>18615711>Pedophiles all have a choice to continue the cycle of sin or get off the rideThey don't have that choice. They're already damned to Hell, even though they haven't physically died. No matter how much they want to change, God will never hear their prayer.
>>18615711Fun fact. Nowhere in the Bible is pedophillia explicitly condemned.
>No matter how much they want to change, God will never hear their prayer.Wait so I was actually posting in a pedophile thread? You hate god and think he's evil because of this?
>>18615717Dead wrong.
>>18615717>They don't have that choice. They're already damned to HellThe cross purifies all sin for those that repent and participate in the new life given to them through Christ>>18615719Even God thought that one was so obvious He didn't have to point it out>>18615721It's so obvious someone is having a meltie over their traumas
>>18615588>When then are there "reformed pedophiles" and people who go to active lengths to keep their desires in check?There are pedophiles in prisons with guards there to keep them in check.>>18615596>NTA but what choices? To use my beta-male medicalizing terms, are they giving an informed-consent to developing a predaliction that would alienate them from broader society?It would be a combination os social and environmental factors, for example, the kinds of habits they practice, what kinds of media they are exposed to, acting on their desire to violate social taboos, and culture. But whether they act on those desires is a personal choice.
>>18615723Romans 1. >>18615726>The cross purifies all sin for those that repent and participate in the new life given to them through ChrisI'm saying they aren't capable of repentance. God's done with them, and he's hardened their hearts.
>>18615294You could but you won't
>>18615726>Even God thought that one was so obvious He didn't have to point it outBut it wasn't obvious. The church in its canon-law set the ages at 12 for girls and 14 for boys, based on roman law and hebrew customs shaped by Bible.Thomas aquinas in Summa Theologica, Supplement, Q.58, Art.5, argued you could even marry earlier, if you saw the signs of puberty.>For the most part this age is 12 in women. But if anyone reaches the required perfection earlier, the marriage is not annulled.If there was an obvious injunction in the Bible or it was obvious to everyone, that wouldn't have happened.
>>18615749>Catholics defending pedophiliaHow very.
Is there even any actual scientific evidence that pedophiles commit more rape, sexual assault, statutory rape etc then non pedophiles?Like, they're attracted to kids, but that doesn't mean they have less self control then normal people. Normal men are attracted to women and only a small percentage of men rape or assault women.Sure, it's possible for a man to at least have consenting sex, wheras a Pedophile can't, but plenty of men or women are virgins and haven't had sex either, and most of them don't go out and rape people out of a lack of sex. So would pedophiles really be any more likely to?
>>18615753Yes, they hate God and want to prey on the innocent. Normal people don't.
>>18615739If God was all good there would be no pedophiles to put in prisons, because he would not create anyone with pedophilic desires.
>>18615740>Romans 1Doesn't support your claim that God won't hear the prayers of sinners, nor does it support the notion that pedophilia is sinful.It does, however, say that arrogant and boastful gossips deserve death. Repent.
>>18615813>Doesn't support your claim that God won't hear the prayers of sinnersThat's not my claim. Learn to read, shitskin.>nor does it support the notion that pedophilia is sinful.You're a pedophile. I recommend Islam.>Repent.Of what?
>>18615791>If God was all good *and goodness conformed to secularized 21st century normative moral frameworksThe Bible doesn't tell us that God is good and because he made man in His image that means there's a 1:1 mapping between what our inclinations tell us is good and what God understands is good. The Bible tells us that God is good and made us in His image, but because of the iniquity of sin we are all born in the sin of Adam and just about every one of our natural inclinations is something wrong that we have to fight against. It's no mystery to any Christian that people want to do awful things. What reason is given as to why we live in such a malicious world? Why did God, who is sovereign over all and perfectly capable of creating a world where sin and suffering doesn't exist, let such a situation play out though He knew before Adam's creation that he would plunge humanity forever into sin? For His own glory. I'm going to keep it a buck with you because I remember how much I hated bullshit happy-go-lucky Christian rationalizations. For all intents and purposes, learned Christians believe we have a gun being held to our heads. Our God is good because He gets to make the rules and He says that He's good. Read Romans 9.15-29. In that same vein, Christians aren't just coping when they say God is merciful. A guy who makes all the rules owes nothing to us. The Bible tells us that the price of sin is suffering and eternal damnation. When we receive anything but that, He is gifting undue mercy.
>>18615816>That's not my claim. >>18615717>No matter how much they want to change, God will never hear their prayer.
>>18615829Reprobates =/= Sinners. Try again?
>>18615755Do you have studies/research papers showing so?
>>18615826>For all intents and purposes, learned Christians believe we have a gun being held to our headsSeems pretty evil. Why should I love God just because he has a gun to my head. If he wants to send me to hell that's his prerogative, but I'm not going to call his evil good just because he's God
>>18615840>Do you have studies/research papers showing so?No.
>>18615841>Why should I love God just because he has a gun to my head.You shouldn't. There are plenty of reasons to love Him, but I was being honest about that fact because Christians tend to shy away from such an assessment even though it's the logical conclusion of the picture scripture paints. I started reading the Bible from a young age and for one reason or another was pretty decent at applying some of its messages. Namely the ones about conjugal love for humanity, forgiveness, and detachment from reliance on the material. As I grew older, I started to understand more of the philosophical implications of such a creator and left my faith. Because there were still infinitely useful, profound, and self-evident truths in scripture, I did in effect what Jefferson did with his own Bible. I separated all the supernatural elements from the rest and insisted that its value stood solely as a compilation of particularly insightful perspectives. I insisted that if I were to die and come before God, I would just deliver an angry "why?" and He would know exactly what I mean and how I feel. Then I would demand He send me to hell so I could get as far away from Him as possible. So yeah, I get where you're coming from.
>>18615853>Then I would demand He send me to hell so I could get as far away from Him as possible.1. You don't get to make demands of the LORD once you're a reprobate.2. You'll be tormented forever in the presence of the God you hate. The Bible is crystal clear. Enjoy that, idiot.
>>18615857Yeah yeah, I'm not afraid of a LARPer trying to impersonate a Steven Anderson cultist at all hours of the day just to drive Christians away from their faith. Go get a job.
>>18615858*yawn*
>>18615858This board is my job.
>>18615791>because he would not create anyone with pedophilic desires.I have already responded to this claim. People are not created with pedophilic desires. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with age preferences.
>>18615866>People are not created with pedophilic desires. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with age preferences.God doesn't create people with homosexual orientation. You chose that yourself.
>>18615876There is solid evidence that people are born with a particular biological sexual orientation in a general sense, but that does not mean that people are predestined to having homosexual relationships, that homosexuality as an identity label is genetic rather than a cultural construct, or that pedophilia is an inborn trait.
>>18615879God doesn't create people with homosexual orientation. You chose that yourself.
>>18615881Bot?
>>18615884Nope. You're just an idiot.
>>18615906You said the same thing twice without responding to the rebuttal.
>>18615911There's no rebuttal. God is not the author of homosexuality. If you submit that he is you need to show evidence.
