>White Americans will deadass pretend that there's no Spanish influence in a state named after a fictional place in a Spanish medieval chivalric romance and whose 3 most populated cities are named Los Angeles, San Diego and San JoseYou lost, chud.
>>18787406There wasn't in 1960 except for some old architecture. That was before 100 million people crossed the border illegally in the span of 50 years.
>>18787423the gates of heaven were thrown open and demons from the bowels of hell spilled through, destroying everything with their corruption.
>>18787423I don't care about Mexican immigrants. You're so mind raped about them that you see a thread that has nothing to do with Mexico and start seething about them. Literally rent free.>>18787424Based Reagan
>>18787406The golden question to shut down this larp is to ask when a specific Mexican’s family came to America. Overwhelmingly it is post 1960s. Do people from Gualajara have some sort of special claim to California, beyond both the Old Mexicans living there or White Americans.
>>18787546>MexicanThe thread is not about Mexico. Go back to /pol/ with your deranged obsession.
>>18787549You brought up a retarded question, most people don’t deny Spanish influence in California. Usually those who make this sort of nonsensical point use it as political justification in why California is Mexican.
>>18787406It was virtually empty land at the time of the Mexican Cession. Most of the current Mexican population are 1st-2nd generation
>>18787573>most people don’t deny Spanish influence in CaliforniaThey do. Most americans republican voters ie white supremacists outright deny that Spaniards ever set foot anywhere in the modern US and that they built anything there. Even in Florida!
>>18787680Given how lazy moorberians are thats not surprising
0/10 bait, try better
>>18787680They're directionally correct, even if they're wrong
Spanish named a lot of places. They didn't bother to settle most of it though.
Proto-Mexico (which Europoors call “Espana”) has no influence on American history except through Real Mexico o algo. Deal with it chud.
>>18787757thermonukular trvke
>>18787682>>18787732>>18787753>>18787757>>18787761White americans are already a minority in their country, btw.
>>18787763and spicniards aren't?
>>18787765>y-you're not whiteExpected answer.White americans are the default ethnicity in American.White americans are already a minority in the USA.If we only count WASP then it's even more grim.You can't recover from this.Spain is still 80% Spaniard and remigration is starting in, literally, two more weeks.
>>18787791>ackchoally if you count moroccans as ibeirian-shut the fuck up and get me my paella, manolo
>>18787406Lmao you are seething from this thread.>>18786864Why do you cry about a war your people lost over a century ago?
>>18787799I'm not Mexican and I didn't even saw this thread.The topic is about American pathetically negating that Spaniards were controlling most of the present day USA.
>>18787406So you're saying that Americans should've renamed the random monastaries and haciendas they later turned into cities? Good argument, actually. It's not like there were much more than perhaps 10,000 proper Mexicans in the entire territory annexed by America in the Mexican war, so there wouldn't have been much opposition. I'd wager there were more Comanches alone in the entire Mexican cession than Spanish speakers, be they White Mexicans or Mestizos
>>18788008Comancyes were literally dying en masse from smallpox and were buckbroken by like 200 spanish settlers.Btw if majority rule much of america don't belong to white people as they are a minority there.
>>18788021I can see why moorberians were seething about the comanche BVLLs
>>18788043Nobody seethe about indios dying of smallpox
>>18788021Comanches were raiding Mexico, actually.
>>18788046You're seething because Spain/Mexico somehow didn't manage to beat any of the New Mexico and Texas based indios you've been fighting for almost 300 years. Almost like Spanish colonies were completely incompetent at anything because of miscegnation
>>18787406Spanish literally got btfod by mexicantsWe btfod the mexicants and got their cities
>>18788046You mean indians.You killed indians.
>no influence on the legal code>no influence on cuisine>no influence on genetics>no influence on holidaysAny kind of Spanish influence on American culture died with the cowboys
>>18788096We're talking about Spain. Stop with yoyr Mexican derangement syndrome. We're talking about two different period, prople and government.>>18788098Spaniards, who were real Spaniards and not mixed or barely so, even with a few hundred men repeatedly raped the comanches no matter how much you cope about it and try to rewrite history.>>18788126>no influence on geneticsKek not any longer
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>>18787406Citation required.
>>18788211I thought this thread was about Spaniards
>>18787680Kek I wish repulibicucks were white supremacists. They're as much NIGGERS and faggots as the other team
>>18787423The Californios who were there before the Americans never left and people always moved across the border for work, the US sometimes cracked down (Eisenhower deported a bunch) but sometimes just let it happen or even encouraged itdo you think Cesar Chavez was organizing Anglos?
>>18788194impossible, there's no way it was zesty lithping in cathtilian peninsulares that defeated the comanches
>>18787406Nova Albion
>>18787406Spaniards are white btw
>>18787406Well, there isn't really. It's Mexican influence, so I guess Spanish by 3rd degree of separation, but actual European Spaniards were never numerous in the region, which was a desolate frontier outpost to them. Sincerely trying to argue that California has extensive *Spanish* culture in it is like trying to pretend that Namibia is still very German just because the capital city was founded by Germans. They were always a miniscule population and didn't really bother much with the place which they regarded as unimportant.
>>18787427>Nothing to do with Mexico>Literally discussing California bro it was literally part of Mexico
>>18787406>Race commies want "decolonization" and thus import more Spanish speaking Roman Catholics headed by machismo dads
>>18788228>I thought this thread was about SpaniardsHispanic means from Hispania. Hispania is now Spain and Portugal.
>>18788363>>18788194>We're talking about Spain. Stop with yoyr Mexican derangement syndrome. We're talking about two different period, prople and government.
As a Texan, I figure it's easier to handle because part of our own mythology is that we were a Mexican province that rebelled in the context of a wider Mexican civil war because that sounds more righteous than just snatching it from the Meh-hee-cans, although there were also Tejanos who fought on the same side as well, and this is how it's taught in school. Also if you're a politician including a conservative Republican one, being able to speak some Spanish can be like a flex and it helps if want to LARP as the great empresario Estephan F. Austin as well, you want to sound all digno y sereno o algo:https://youtu.be/yBBpJGLuZ6o
It's kind of cool to LARP as Spanish though. I need to study the language more. Also a lot of the anti-Mexican stuff is a social class thing, because the Mexicans that come to the U.S. do so as the hard physical labor force. But if these chuds who don't like this Spanish stuff got rich then they'd be like hell yeah let's go to La Isla Bonita or had the chance to navigate some fancy upper-crust Latin stuff, they'd love that, it's a cool language.https://youtu.be/xiWtqVtd1Oo
>>18788438its some tsundere moorberian, spics are either sons of hispania or indio mudblood mutts depending on whether the spic(s) in question make spain look good or bad
