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I did this shit for 20 years, it ain't that hard bro.

What to use for it:
-GraphicsGale Use this if you want something good and free. been using it since the days it was a paid program.
-Asesprite. desu I don't like this thing the UI is dogshit but everyone swears by it so it's probably fine.
-ProMotion NG. uhh, lmao? I guess if you like photoshop this is cool but it is a gigantic pain in the ass to use for animation.
-Photosh- no, get that shit outta here. garbage.

THINGS TO LEARN WITH:
LOSPEC:
https://lospec.com/pixel-art-tutorials
I don't personally think these are the best tutorials out there but they're good to start out with and it's a bunch of stuff in one place.
The Pixelogic book is actually good atleast.
OLD THINGS:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130501035641/http://pixel-zone.rpgdx.net/shtml/tutorials.shtml
Some of the things I learned from as a teenager are here.
ABOVE ALL YOU NEED TO GRAB THINGS AND STUDY HOW SPRITES ARE DONE.
I cannot stress this enough. go grab screenshots and try to draw on them. use spriter's resource to look at things from the masters. I had to learn that way too, we all tend to reverse-engineer in this field and then build our own from the skills we learn.

Also feel free to ask me questions. Don't be a dipshit.
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>pixel art is easy
>want to animate the rotation of a large detailed object without rixels
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>You are just lazy
Story of my life, breh
Anyway post some more of your art and maybe share your process
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>>7686512
here's a really really old example I did of the very basics of color theory and hue shifting in palettes.
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>>7686520
a thing I made to teach how to do sub-pixelling
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>>7686521
a small guide I made for a project I was working on. a bunch of the info still makes common sense too.
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>>7686521
I should try this. I've never done it despite being into pixel art. brb
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>>7686528
*erm I don't know how to apply it. this guy for example, I have 2 frames, if I want a 3rd using some sub pixelling, how do I begin to do that?
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>>7686533
build extra in-between colors for the knees so that you can blend them.

You also would likely need to do 4 frames so the arms lag up and down slightly to alot for the extra blend tones to go along the top of the shoulders.

it's worth noting that you don't have to do the subpixelling EVERYWHERE, just on the spots where the movement is most obvious. In this case there's alot, but anything that's NOT changing in the up and down motion can be largely left alone.
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How do you think sprites like this one from arcana heart were made? From what I could infer, they were drawn digitally in black and white, although I'm not sure if they are downscaled or they drew them in this resolution. After they applied some shadows they converted it to a 7 color grayscale palette (because each color zone in the final sprite has 7 shades). Then they colorized somehow the different areas and touched it up a bit.
I have no idea what software they used. Asesprite doesn't have a way to colorize it quickly.
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>>7686554
Thanks. ok, so here's a rough attempt. I can see some places that are too contrasty that should have less movement(near hands). am I on the right track?
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>>7686598
*whoops transparent pixel on his shoulder
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>>7686595
If I change the indexes you can see the original lineart better.
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Hm, wasn't there another thread just like this? Did it die?
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>>7686599
yeah, you more or less got it!
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>>7686651
There were two other threads that were just people complaining or saying full-on misinformation, so I decided to make a proper thread because I'd rather be an old fart giving actual advice than see another dumbfuck saying stupid shit.
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>>7686595
>>7686616

You're pretty much on point, though I'd say that by this point digital tablets were slowly becoming actually useful, so it's possible they were drawn digitally from the start. given it's from 2006, I wouldn't be suprised if it's that.

Though honestly, if some of the folks who worked on it came from one of the old arcade companies, it is very possible that they even had some funny custom hardware for that purpose. IREM (and later when the teams formed Nazca and merged with SNK) they had a ton of purpose-built drawing devices for pixel art.
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I have not done anything with pixel since ehhh 6 months I do believe. And I never touched for more then a dozen of times
Rate my best work
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>>7686731
I'm gonna be real, I can't tell if this is a bit or you are a time-travelling teenager from 2004
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>>7686491
>disliking Aseprites UI
You can download addons that change it but agreed: default sucks. Aseprite only has an edge over GraphicsGale if you're making games from scratch, really. For more general pixel art use I find it kind of overhyped
>>7686595
The JP pixel artists I used to see while browsing in the 2000s rarely bothered drawing something just to downscale it, and as far as I know that was more or less how most pros working under big companies operated: just drawing digitally on top of a digital sketch, in the scale you wanted the final product to be. There's a few known exceptions where they did (like Ace Attorney), but it didnt seem that common until around the nintendo DS era rolled around. and even then many sprite artists continued working as they always had.
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>>7686769
the problem with Aseprite that I can't really justify retraining myself for is that you cannot move the buttons around, and I also really, really do not like them shoving frames and layers into the same space. It just eats up an entire third of the screen real-estate if you work with more than 3 layers. (HINT: You will nearly always have to work with more than 4 while animating characters.)

At the end of the day, I just really really like the customization of the space Gale allows for. This is what my Gale setup looks like. very pretty and organized!
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>>7686823
also here's the thing from the screenshot.
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>>7686498
>spending time on things i care about is hard
>I don't want to try new things
>so I have no idea what I actually care about
>why am I so depressed and directionless
>oh well time to go back to wasting time on /x/ and 4ch
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>>7686491
I still don't understand why you come to this site and put up with these dumbasses
I know socmed is bad and our dead gay comedy forum is quiet but it can't be that bad surely

nobody here is worth your time unless they decide they are worth their own time
being on here is kinda proof they don't think they are worth their own time man
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>>7686491
anyways idk you're more patient than me
hopefully at least one user here like, idk, is kind enough to themselves to actually try the stuff you're recommending
i'm gonna go fuck around w/ level code and watch more masshole miku
later
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>>7686855
>>7686861

Hello rabbit friend!
I'm not here for clout or anything else. I have my funny NASA lady sure, but I'm here because I wanna teach and this place is sorely lacking in this field.

That and the Pixel Art Discord is really just not a fun place to be or to teach in, because it's filled to the brim with blind leading the blind.
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>>7686864
Oh hey apple friend
fr if they actually follow your advice and aren't weird bitches about it that would actually be cool as fuck
some of my favourite project participation back in the day was working on flash videos for this community, group-projects on /m/ or fucking with them on /x/ with pranks granted i did tripfag a bit hard back then

actually... what's the median age of a 4chan user now? like are they young-folk or did they go to more extreme sites so only like 30somethings (like us) are left? genuinely curious about the demographics of this place
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>>7686872
in every 4chan related art community I've gone to I've almost always been the oldest person in the group. :[
We're probably some of the few oldheads still around at this point.
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>>7686835
blog? if that's okay to ask
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>>7686752
I don't understand
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>>7686875
yeah i'm now realizing like they won't know where a lot of their assumptions come from. descartes, irony, company, etc. its like goodhart's law crossed by way of sturgeon into shitposting.

skimming the board i do like that their opinions are super unfiltered still and that aspect hasn't gone away

>>7686752
lol u tk him 2da bar|?
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>>7686876
https://x.com/ApplefatGov
https://bsky.app/profile/appleheck.bsky.social

>>7686878
what I'm saying is it feels like something I would have seen 20 years ago on a sonic the hedgehog fan forum by a teen girl really into Evanescence.
I wasn't really meaning this as a bad thing, it's just what it reminds me of.

Being serious, it's not great, but everyone starts somewhere. my oldest stuff was terrible.

Here, this is my old Sonic sprite edit from when I was like 13 or 14 lmao. We all kinda start simple.
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>>7686888
in 1992, you booted up Sails the Fedgehog and was given an adventure in christmas coloring by way of jackson pollock
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>>7686888
Nah it's fine you gave me a nice giggle.
also nice trips
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>>7686823
wery nice, wery sleek. And yes, I'm not a fan of using Aseprite for animations either, it's a far better time doing it in GraphicsGale. Aseprite wins out for me when doing very small old-school GBA overworld sprite sheets and fonts, but for practically everything else it's Gale. Will say though that the modding and asset community centered around Aseprite is a big plus and can be quite inspiring in its own right.
>>7686835
loving the sheen btw. I want to poke her legs
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>>7686864
Basically you got kicked out from the discord and got lonely? This is sad, anon.
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>>7687037
Far from it. I just got really bored because there's no other oldheads there. I wanna talk shop and all they talk is beginner stuff. Nobody taking it seriously.

>>7686957
I too would like to know how the cool touch of the funny hover legs feels on my face.
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>>7687050
>oldheads
Where did everyone go after B&G shut down their forums? I admit, by that time I was out of the pixel art community and I've only recently gotten back into making pixel art. There seems to have been a long period where no one really cared much about pixel art once sprite comics died.
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>>7687619
god, yeah I got my start on the B&G forums too. I went by 'geona' or 'foxalpha' or something like that in those days.

As for where the community went after? no real clue. I drifted over to pixelation.org and polycount where I learned advanced stuff as well as getting good at 3D. eventually all those skills came around to me doing illustration as well, so it's hard for me to say.

A bunch of folks scattered over to pixeljoint, pixelation, joined the sonic fangame community or went to TIGSource forums, or kinda just vanished onto their own thing. A shame really, as I would have loved to keep up with the folks that kept learning around then.

Personally though if I could find a place where folks ACTUALLY talk shop and don't just share around the same awful Saint11 tutorials like they're gospel, I'd be way more interested in getting back into it all.

Speaking of, anyone got some techniques they'd like to ask about? I'm all ears!
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(same anon as >>7686957)
>>7687050
>I wanna talk shop and all they talk is beginner stuff.
Havent bothered going to discords yet but I feel like sometime around 2013 things started to change and more and more oekaki styled art with non-pixel overlay effects began filling up websites and tags. That, and indie games using the same overlay technique on extremely simple beg tier sprites.
With how popular it got it led to an influx of beg tutorials from "big names", with people copying it over and over, and now it feels like it's a seperate "style" of pixel art that has become synonymous with what beginners hope to create, because that is what they've seen doing well online. Theres very little incentive for them to learn more.
also the lack of hardware restrictions probably doesn't help.
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>>7687728
It's not really a commonality anymore but I often attributed this to Cave Story initially and called it Cave Story Dilemma, where a ton of newbies started out BECAUSE of that game and never really understood WHY it's aesthetic decisions exist.
It's obviously different things now, but you don't see anyone really saying their inspiration is something really complex like OwlBoy or whatever, it's always something far simpler.

I wonder what ways there might be to get people interested in getting more ambitious with work? It would be really interesting to find ways to get folks to be more ambitious.
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>>7686491
Does GraphicsGale allow for layer-specific indexed pallets? I have an entire canvas I use for pixel art but I can't use index in aseprite to stay system-legal because it applies to the entire thing instead of individual layers
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>>7686888
thanks!
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>>7687825
>Cave Story Dilemma
Thats actually a pretty good observation desu
These days I guess Undertale and Deltarune have taken up its spot, but the effect remains the same: people going for a simple style with little to no awareness of the methods and self-imposed restrictions behind. Kinda like skipping foundational training for traditional art I suppose.
>I wonder what ways there might be to get people interested in getting more ambitious with work?
I think if it goes the way of low-poly 3D it might be possible as the result of developers wanting to make games and mods for retro consoles again. That, or some sort of rise of a new piece of hardware with very limited specs or screen size (neo smartwatch gaming? programmable customisable tamagotchis? i dont know, but something like that)
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>>7687846
okay that's a particularly weird thing. I know that Gale supports per frame palettes, but I don't think it supports per layer. it DOES however count the colors per frame as well as total, so you could in theory use that as a way to check it.
>>7688061
I don't wanna get started about the current lowpoly craze but that has seen so much progress and evolution that I'm honestly super impressed with what folks are making now. Pixel art though? not so much.
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>>7688240
colors per layer, I meant to say.
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>>7687728
>I feel like sometime around 2013 things started to change and more and more oekaki styled art with non-pixel overlay effects began filling up websites and tags.
That sounds like it might have been the after effects Super Brothers Sword & Sorcery EP more than cave story, if we're talking about the mixing of pixel art and none pixel art - It was definitely influential (and beautiful, mind you) visually, I think many people cribbed its unique character art visual style, which were very simple human figures, but didn't crab the very complex background art that contrasted that.
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I recently made a pixel art game and got really burnt out near the end. I have trouble getting traction on any social media posts I made but I'm confident my work was pretty good, especially for a solo project.

I definitely empathize with some anons here who think that pixel art recently has lost its purity. I very quickly went to the dark side when using 360p canvases and started to downscale linedrawings and use halftone effects in CSP to save time. Towards the end I was using glow dodge effects too.

That being said, Aesprite changing common shortcut keys across painting software was a tragedy and if it wasn't for the onion skinning. I would have stuck to CSP
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I've only very recently gotten interested in trying pixel art and I've been having issues finding answers to certain questions and I'm left having to analyze the sprite work I want to emulate and maybe guessing what their workflow was
For example, two things I'm looking at are 1.) the comic panels from EBA/ Ouendan and 2.) character sprites from AA. I can kind of tell the EBA comics are just downscaled from full-res art but I can't tell for sure if that's what they did for AA as well. It feels more likely for AA4, since that was the only one fully built from the ground up for the DS
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>>7688477
AA is downscaled but I suspect the pixels are cleaned up manually a little
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ProMotion NG is great, non destructive dithering for control. I can move palettes easily and make my own dithering patterns.
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Also Grafx2 if you are a hobbyist and need a free lightweight program
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>>7688240
yeah it hasnt hit pixel art at all, just tossing my guess at what it would take to make it happen
>>7688296
There were a lot of indie games doing it at the time, so I can't say I'd confidently pin the blame down on one or two. The Cave Story thing other anon mentioned kind of seemed to exist in tandem with it, I feel.
Theres also just a bunch of not so beautiful yet very popular indie games that may have inspired it
>>7688477
yes, AA is downscaled. The concept artist almost exclusively did traditional pencil sketches and ink at the time afaik, so it was likely done more out of necessity than anything else. AA4 just let them do it with more colours and space
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Finally a thread.
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>>7688842
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>>7688847
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>>7686491
Do you draw? As in, do you draw normally and then use that to overlay with your pixel art, or do you directly start with pixel art?
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>>7688857
whatever I feel like really. sometimes I just start, sometimes I sketch out first, sometimes I do a 3D layout to get the composition right. It really depends on how simple or complex something is.
In the case of the banner image for the thread, I did that entirely pixels from the get go. but in the case of this rainy cafe, I used a ton of different tools. Mainly designdoll for layout and SpriteMancer for the rain effect and the steam off the coffee (which was SUPPOSED to be transparent but the deadline meant I couldn't fix it.) I then composited everything together in Davinci Resolve while mnanually adjusting the animation of the guy drinking the coffee for proper timing, then exported as a GIF.

There are a ton of things I wanted to do with this piece, like add extra characters waitress bobbing to some music, a car driving by, all sorts of things. The boss man was obsessed with me adding a laptop and asking for a dozen small changes, so by the time I got it this far I just wanted it done.

Maybe someday I'll come back to it and finish it proper for myself though.
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>>7689014
reference collage for this piece
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>>7689021
early starts scribbling the characters in on the designdoll layout I built.
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>>7689024
Oh, huh. I have an early test of the rain effect in Pixel Composer that I recorded a gif from! didn't even realize that this existed.
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>>7688857
For a different example, I worked with someone on a character mod of Lina Inverse for Rivals of Aether, as there was a anime jam going on with a cash prize. So to do the win/splash screen I started drawing the character in CSP over a designdoll pose (again to make sure composition would work) and then pixelled over that.
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>>7689038
and the final sprite
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>>7688842
>>7688847
>>7688853
btw these rock.
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>>7688841
>>7688484
I see, I'll have to experiment with a workflow that works for me
Thank you
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>>7688328
Picrel screenshot.
I will say I don't think I'll ever be able to drop my boomer perspective grids. I think the original size of the line drawing for this was over 6000 pixels before I shrunk it and began painting.
UI and stuff were made by me too but they're part of the game itself. You can definitely see where I got lazy on dithering.

>>7689038
This absolutely slaps. God damn you're good.
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>>7689284
First test using this method, lineart and color was in Procreate and I added shading after plus clean-up (missed a few places but oh well, next time)
Next test is doing all the shading before importing.
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>>7686491
I've been getting into making pixel stuff, it's fun. The downside is that I fucking suck at coding and even the simple stuff is tripping me up, there always seems to be something these video tutorials say to do and then GML Code says "nah something's missing from the create event" and then I don't know whether to cuntpaste the code or what. If I could just fucking HELP someone else that's good with programming but sucks at sprites, man.
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>>7689014
Cozy! You've convinced me to try DesignDoll
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>>7689394
That's really impressive regardless! the scanlined dithering appraoch always looks particularly stylish anytime I see it. I hope you weren't doing all of those by hand, you can use a pixel brush/pattern to do that stuff really quick.

>>7689441
Good first try! I'm assuming you already draw your lines pretty thick, so this method can work well for artists with heavy line weights.

>>7689522
I know a couple people that do gamedev butI myself am not that smart. I'm pretty much the guy that handles art direction, QA, and making pretty things as a whole.
Quick question though, what is the right most sprite supposed to be? I'm having a bit of trouble reading the... head?
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Felt like sharing another fun thing today cuz I'm getting ready for a trip and the laundry is gonna be anotther couple of hours.

A rather large amount of the time you can get away with basically not animating pixel art by just having tons of rotatable chunks. While this is pretty "duh of course you can" sort of thing, the levels of tomfoolery you can get away with doing this are really fun!

So for this boss, I wanted to give it an interesting death animation and intro, but doing all of that would be a pain if I actually hand-animated given how big the sprite is. So, the entire top-half is a bunch of separated chunks parented to the body.
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>>7690448
by separating everything out, it can allow for some really impressive looking animation without needing to do the harder parts. The final chunks were then pieced together using Spine and animated with bones. (You can probably use a different program for this though!)
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>>7690459
the final death animation is one of my favorite things I've ever done. I really wish I could have seen it with proper explosions over it, but that was something the programmer would handle.
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another thing you can do with this is change the palette of a section to fake motions, such as this with the 'leg lift'. there is no extra animation, just changing the colors to make it look like it is!
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>>7690118
It's a little bit of both, I did a second pass on the outline after importing
With this second test, I think I understand the workflow enough to try cranking out more poses
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Havent lurked IC in a while, finally a pixel art post to pmw, ignore the BG, it's more of a filler cause i was too lazy to actually detail it.

>>7690464
Nah, learn to use PixelFXDesigner
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>>7691053
Forgot to post the image, bruh
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>>7691054
Ciri from Witcher
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>>7691056
Dressed up
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>>7686491
lua scripting, palettes, tagging, tile maps, pixel perfect, are all reasons aseprite is better than graphics gayle. that and it's actually actively developed.
if you choose not to use aseprite because of some non-issue like UI (it's highly customisable, you can even script together your own), you're severely hindering your workflow.
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>>7687656
>awful Saint11 tutorials like they're gospel
Why is he awful?
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>>7686491
Here's a pixel art course for you guys
>GameDev.tv Team / Pixel Art Characters: 2D Character Design & Animation
>https://files.catbox.moe/08z8yb.torrent
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/beg/ here, i made this, can you tell what it is?
what can i do to improve it?
(using gameboy palette so only 3-4 colors)
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>>7693471
If I had to hazard a guess it's some sort of lobster? Personally, I think you need a better ratio of light vs. shadow to make it read better, more light than shadow. Traditional wisdom is a ratio of 70/30
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>>7693524
is this better? i feel like i over did it
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>>7686491
Having to clean up an animation is miserable with how pixels get scattered after every rotation

I don't hate that I have to do it, I just hate how long it takes.
Should've gone into 3d animation...
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So I wanted to try working in Aseprite for a change but the colors in the Aseprite window specifically are messed up
Despite the color picker showing a full #ffffff white, it's displaying as this cool white, pictured here
Am I doing something wrong? I don't have indexed coloring on. I'm gonna try saving the file and opening it on my iPad and seeing if it stays like this
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>>7693806
OK yeah on my iPad (Resprite), the colors are all displaying fine, It's just an issue of how Aseprite is displaying them
This is my first time really opening Aseprite since buying it years ago so I doubt it's a setting I messed with
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>>7693806
It looks bluish to me
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>>7693848
Correct, that's what a cool white is
I just learned Resprite also has a desktop version so if I can't figure this out, I'll just use that
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>>7691311
can i finally right click to color pick with it like graphicsgale fucking hate these 2 color layer things all the programs do
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>>7688477
>>7688484
What’s downscaling in this context? I googled it and found nothing. I’ve been looking for a method to convert my drawings to pixel art.
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I am finally home from my trip, so I can check on the thread again.

>>7691311
I'm an old fart and I don't like change okay?
Also, I've yet to see anyone mod the buttons to the left side of the screen, the one thing I want them to do more than anything else.
I also find most of the defaults in the program to be kind of asinine, among the fact everything is menus, nested menus, with very few buttons for actual tools you would use often. I'm sure this wouldn't be so bad if you enjoy keyboard shortcuts, but I'm not really a huge fan of doing that unless there's alternative methods or better tooltips
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>>7693287
I find the tutorials to be incredibly simple or they teach things just downright wrong, like the one about gems and shiny things. They're alright for what they are, but I feel they create some bad habits with both animation and stylistic choices, erring on the side of overly cartoony and simple.

>>7693884
there are a couple of ways, but you're pretty much guaranteed to have to do manual cleanup no matter what.
Pixatool/SpriteMancer/Pixel Composer are all tools specifically for downscaling and palettizing, and would definitely be the quickest method, albeit a bit scuffed. The method I tend to use when downscaling first is open in the image editor of your choice and downscale with Lanzcos-3 Non-Seperable, then bring it into a palettizing tool or draw over it from there. I use this method for texture work on 3D models, as shown in this image.

>>7693546
I will try to go over this myself tomorrow before I start working on job things. I'm still really exhausted from the trip, so not doing it today.
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I made this in case I need it. (I probably will lmao)
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>>7693806
I missed this last time, but it sounds like a similar problem to photoshop where it's reading a monitor's color profile for export instead of generic SRGB. This sometimes happens if the color profile from your monitor is corrupted somehow, but it can also just be windows being stupid.
It's a fixable thing in photoshop, but I don't know if there's a setting for that in Asesprite or not.
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>>7695791
I'll mess around with the settings later when I get home, I think I may have seen something there to that effect
For now Resprite is doing me fine in the interim
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where is the ic wplace zone, the jannies on v are suppressing any wplace threads cause i guess we need more pornbait or we
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>>7696002
no idea. I haven't really bothered with wplace. I was going to, but I ended up just making something too complicated. Now the thing I wanted to make on there became the image header for the thread.
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>>7696002
If anything someone should make an alliance
If I'm being completely honest, wplace is what sparked my recent interest in pixel art
I got tired just copying sprites from existing things and wanted to try making "new" stuff
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thoughts on color cycling ?
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>>7696548
it's really cool, but its also one of those things that is really annoying to set up. You can technically do it in Gale and Asesprite, but the two programs best at it is Pro Motion and Grafx2.
I personally haven't tried it because usually it needs a shader to do it in game engines, (and no game team has really bothered to implement that when I've worked on something) but I'd love to give it a shot some day.
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>>7697187
why would a shader be necessary? What exactly would you like them to implement
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>>7697267
color tracking in most engines is not an inherent thing. To do the cycling in it's intended method (static image that has the palette shifted to save memory) you need a shader in modern engines. It's an annoying factor of everything being done on the gpu these days basically. In software rendering you could do palette calls a bit simpler.
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>>7696548
>>7697187
I'm not a pixel guy, so excuse the possibly stupid question, but can the colours that are being cycled be the same as other colours within the image, or are they slightly different?
I'm assuming that cycled colours are considered a different thing from the static colours, and thus there can be 'two' of the same colour but only one is cycling?
Limited tech stuff can be rather confusing sometimes.
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>>7698479
http://www.effectgames.com/demos/canvascycle/
click show options and you can see the palette cycling in real time.
multiple colors can be cycled at once.
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>>7698479
yes there can be two of the same colours, but only one zone is cycling,
basically it works through indexed colors, usually each pixel having their own individual color independent from each other, instead, the pixels refer to an index, color 1, 2, 3 etc, you can paint a zone that returns 5, another zone with 29, and while they might have the same hue, saturation, and value, they are different on the palette, and thus one color can be changed without affecting the other
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>>7698842
Thank you. I had assumed that's how it worked (especially after looking at the site >>7698512 mentioned), but it's hard to be certain with older tech/tricks and going solely by eye. The colours could have been a smidge different and thus been 'different' colours in the palette.

It seems like a headache sorting out those areas for cycling, but the result is quite lovely.
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>>7686491
How is this person getting so much smoothness out of the Deltarune sprites?
I asked them if it was subpixel animation and they said no, though I did specifically link this
https://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/give-your-sprites-depth-with-sub-pixel-animation/
so it might be subpixel animation just not that specific way of subpixel animation
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>>7701990
This should help
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>>7701991
and this
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>>7701990
Same way as regular animation; lots of tweens. The whole thing is over a hundred frames for what, 4 or 5 seconds of animation?
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>>7702032
there's software for tweening sprites like this?
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>>7702086
Not that I know of. it was probably all done manually.
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>>7694388
How are they wrong/bad?
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>>7703155
uuugghhggh okay so I have a bone to pick specifically with the way they teach lighting because it's at times OKAY but in others flat out wrong.

This gem tutorial I think is the one that stands out the most to me as "pls don't" because the light control is just changing shades for the sake of it mostly, when you can get away with doing alot less and upping the contrast in areas it's important. it also straight up doesn't factor translucense and depth on gems, which would give it a much deeper color towards the middle. (I'm over-simplifying here, there's a ton of factors to take into account, but these are the ones you'd pay attention to in pixel art the most.)
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>>7703190
I forgor my name woops

To give a bit of an idea, here's a magic spell for a puzzle game I worked on last year. the wave itself was meant to be a gem, then the spell effect would cause it to swirl, making deeper areas swirl around a bit before the explosion.

This is just one of my complaints in regards to them, but it's the most egregious.
I also think they realy too heavily on the black outline and their way of defining effects is far too simple, but that's alot harder to critique in a paragraph or two.
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>>7703198
I forgot the image, really not on the ball today D;
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>>7686700
They worked on Samurai Shodown 5 earlier, but you gotta keep in mind that much of their work in that game was derivative or straight up copypasting older sprites.
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>>7686491
rare quality thread
thanks OP
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>>7701991
looks like he's doing smth kinda like smear frames as inbetweens ? if you zoom on the second animation, you can see that the motion's smoothed over by having it progressiveley happening, instead of having it jump from one sprite to the other
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Finally, a pixel thread for me.
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If I never done pixel stuff where should I start? Kinda want to try for fun.
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>>7706216
the tutorial I swear by and was the thing that hjelped me get better is "So You Want To Be a Pixel Artist"
http://www.petesqbsite.com/sections/tutorials/tuts/tsugumo/

This tutorial teaches alot of good habits right from the get-go, especially how to learn by analyzing the work of others and how to best utilize shades when starting out. I consider it the holy grail of early tutorials.
If you want something more comprehensive (albeit a more long-winded) there's the Pixelogic book, which is very comprehensive.
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>>7706197
this is very good palette control. not necessarily 'pixel art' but hell, oekaki style art is fine too!

>>7706034
desu I kinda think they're a bit too smoothed out. I don't really see the need to go that far? Like as a thing to post to a site to go "woah that's so cool!" sure, but in a game environment that would be miserable to work with.
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>>7690464
Hey anon you want a job? I've been doing the character and enemy animations, but I'm too lazy (Really skill-less) to do bosses
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Any tips for isometric walk cycle animations? I've made a few but they're quite sloppy
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>>7706305
Hit me up, name is the same as on discord. I was feeling like getting back on the horse proper anyway so I wouldn't mind having a job lined up. I love making bosses!
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>>7706393
I'll save your name and give you a shout in a couple of months. I have to finish up with the projects I'm currently helping out with, but I'll be sure to reach out to you eventually.
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Not enough free time to animate the body
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>>7709217
I do like it though I feel it would be better served if you did a downscale on the effects part of it to match the resolution of the figure.
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>>7706404
Might wanna just go ahead and add me so we can shoot the shit etc. I like hearing about stuff early so I can get an idea of whether I'm the right person for the job ahead of time anyway.

Anyways, I'm probably not sticking around this thread anymore cuz there's not as many folks interested in doing this stuff as I thought would be here. A shame really, but them's the breaks sometimes.



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