If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious: >>7695923
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>>7698283K-kino
so having some fun before i have to go outafter the master study now coloring iti want to do a sunrise type scene but idk how so ill just be messing around, lol
THREAD CHALLENGELast thread I asked, but I would like for you guys to design a thread mascot(s) for /beg/ and/or /int/. It'll be included in most OPs and will hopefully give a sense of cohesion among this insane community.No running jokes only regulars will get either, so make them appealing.
I'll is "fun" process 19238923
>>7698301miss*
Working on animation of Tifa getting double slapped and put into leaping triangle hold with leg stretching by Nina from Tekken
ey yo
I can't help but think the "permabeg" anon would have long surpassed most ppl here if he had the same ""moral"" ""standards"" than people tracing, copying and using other crutches.
>>7698321If you mean permabegschizo, he just needs to pratice and study, he barely draws 1 hour a day and when he does he just draws the same thing
>draw for 5+ years>practice fundamentals>copy>gestures>linework>construction>still can't make breakthrough>still feel anxiety>still drawings look amateurish >only time drawings look good is when they are copied for observationI am permabeg and i don't know how to learn myself out of it. Every day i forget things, basic things. I remember when i could draw in perspective, now i don't. I forgot. I remember when i knew how to draw faces, now i don't. When i try to recollect the fundamentals of it, the construction aspect, my memory fails me and i just eyeball shapes, except now i am at least aware why i am failing. But i can't fix it. I don't know what i am missing and it's something core, something that's not related to "just draw" and practicing. My brain literally refuse to give the knowledge i knew i have.
>>7698321ughg even permaschizo had a point even tho he is a clinically insane man>>7698299i nominate thelittle vilppu blob
>>7698299best I can do
>>7698331the pink ones on the left are great
>>7698299>running jokes only regularsso no crabs allowed?
How retarded am I for doing this shit?
>>7698339you do you, I already get anxiety and tired from watching this fucking spectacle of lines man, its the math of drawing at that point
>>7698338Crabs is fine, I'm mostly talking about when anons constantly reference old posters like Pawell or the other guy I don't remember the name of.
>>7698327Try taking someone else's sketch and polishing it to whichever level you desire. Fix any mistakes, turn it into line art, shade, color, or all of the above.Note: I don't know if this will actually help you get good, I just think that trying a different approach might help you get unstuck.
diminishing returns on polishing this turd. still not very realistic,but better(?)
anyone wanna play gartic phone
>>7698349Do more poses, no need to become fixated on one sketch
Can /beg/ recreate this masterpiece?
>>7698349Just trace over a 3d model anon, no rules just tools xd
Sometimes you see a piece of art on social media and it changes something. Featured is a succubus designed by BasedBinkie on Twitter.If I were to guess, I'd say the biggest problem is that I tried drawing such small figures on cheap printer paper.
>>7698357>check artist to see if he was famous for something else>became famous precisely because of this shitso what's the obsession with buying schizo scribbles?
>>7698346I would hate doing that. I need different mindset altogether. I can't function like the way i do now. It's been months since i completed a work and i have no idea how to do it now, because i just can't get the exact style i want, i can't get exactly what i want. I literally back to square 1 trying to draw boxes and i can't even get exact 1-1-1 square box in perspective. I have no idea how people do it. Then i open twitter and i want to kill myself, because i can't draw those "warmups" posted there. And finally, i have absolutely nobody to talk to, i am right now, asking upenai, to advice me, because i am so scatterbrained and irritable i can't see myself finding discord art group where i would probably just call everyone talented to cope with my failure. I will probably just vanish after these posts, been years since i was posting on /ic/ and i hate the fact i am going to be forever.
>>7698350why isn't there a general for it anyways. seems like it'd fit the board and get people to actually draw
>>7698370yeah unironically it is a very good game for testing your imaginationthere's threads here and there but sometimes they don't get enough people, maybe i can try and make one
>>7698349biggest problem here is that she is falling, you need to keep your characters balanced.If you want figure to lean in certain direction you need to also counterbalance it.
>>7698299something simple anyone could draw :3 excuse the crabby shapes, i'm exhausted.
>>7698394Do morel like this and keep your extreme fetish snuff to yourself
ok, i def want to add details latertrying to do the sky was a process, lol
>>7698402came out very cinematic dare i say
>>7698403tnx! i saw the motion w/ the breeze & stuff, thought that the sky has to be a bit epic
>>7698398How about keeping your opinions to yourself as well
why are you guys so fetish negative all of a sudden
>>7698366Idk, maybe people buy those to feel better about themselves. I saw a snipped from some interview with the guy who draw this, it seemed like he was held in a very high regard, so I decided to check what he's famous for. Just to see this.Apparently he made it big by drawing a bunch of hideous graffiti with progressive messaging in the 80s and ODed on heroin at 27
>>7698407i dunno but i noticed it lately too
>>7698408Grim.
>>7698381kek anon good catch wow ty i knew something was weird with her leg but not what
>>7698406>>7698407Gore is a bannable offense btw
>>7698402I may actually repaint this, cause i also imagine the robe as being white with red detailing
>>7698414I see unpunished banable offenses all the time, your point?
>>7698402holy fuck is this birdstacy?what's the ref?
>>7698421My point is you don't have to see them and there's recourse for saying something about it
>>7698321Lol no. He is POSSESSED by the antitalent entity.>>7698327Look at the nigger there he is!>>7698324LOL. LMAOOOO
>>7698432yea. and ref is https://x.com/tama00001234/status/1952692107958980653
I'm really gonna do it this time
>>7698434Different schizo. Did not post for like a year. I would still appreciate if you took the "bait".
>>7698432and to clarify, it was a master study that i just had fun with afterward
>>7698432lol I knew it. " I only drew eyeballs on muh notebook during class, now and then.."Just another /int/ mocking them gullible begsTALENTED RATS ARE THE WORST.. it never fails.
Still working on my VN about 12 identical sisters. I have two versions of Blue, not sure which is a better perspective for her? I wanted her face to be unclear while her emotions still being obvious, and to integrate the cards somehow.
>>7698335>>7698387These are cute
>>7698444wait no!! seriously thats all i did!this is literally a master study, its not like i came up with the design myself im not mockingas for coloring, idk... i just used a watercolor brush. and doing photography, i know shadows are cooler & such
>>7698445Second one is better but I still think you should just have her cover the lower half of her face with a fan of cards.
I want to sleep so much.
Is there a collection of "easy" to copy pieces to train accuracy?
>>7698445the sheer amount sovl contained in this aged me down 10 years
>>7698445You must be 18+ to post on this website.
>>7698444its only a copy of another drawing. you should draw more and do the same. whats stopping you?
>>7698445Just commission art
>>7698455check out some gag manga
>>7698445>>7698452Second anon is right. You'll get a lot more emotion and options from showing eyes rather than the mouth
>>76984021 week vs 12 years
>>7698466doing a master study of already done work vs constructing a 3d form from scratchits not the same. i havent even learned perspective/3d forms yet
warm up sloppa
>>7698480because im still technically in the line section of proko. after today ill prob move onto the shapes section
>>7698481oh no retard forgot their image award
>>7698480like, this is the general sections of proko.i was focusing on lines the past 2 weeks. doing references, imagination, & masterwork studies
>>7698339at this point using 3d is less cheating
>>7698283Gardy
>>7698299I'm against the creativity stifling thing that is a mascot*snip**snap*
Hi all. I'm back for my daily humiliation ritual. Picrel is what I worked on today. You may notice that its unfinished. That's because I wasted several hours trying to reverse engineer this guy's thought process for picking tones for the shadows only to realize that he's cheating by using a multiply layer. I did ultimately learn a lot about rendering so I suppose this was a useful exercise. Now to see if I can apply any of these new skills to my own original work (lol)
>>7698408if it makes you feel better: I assure you the scribbles of a gay schizo leftist nigger are all the hype now, but will be worthless when people grow tired of this culture (and they are already not very enthusiastic about it anymore).
cock>>7698464whats it called when the victim is dead inside tho?>>7698402amazing :D>>7698337:DDD thanks>>7698387perfect>>7698394i like how the cloth folds>>7698483very cool!but i dont want to imagine the pain when she has to wipe her butt
>>7698499Hey learning is always progress.I'd say learn a bit more of his anatomy and where he takes liberties with it. Places like the stomach and the traps suffer from this in your version. Maybe making a skeleton over the original can help find his process
Shitty skull
>>7698509That's a man
>>7698509if you suggest at least make it high res
>>7698509you can't call this the actual thread challenge and have it be worse
>>7698496How is it stifling if you get to design it yourself
>>7698520what about those who come after me? It's a one off thing. May as well just do a thread challenge
>>7698523Elaborate please? I actually can't make sense of what you just said.
There he is!https://wbkr.com/rat-that-paints-in-indiana/
>>7698526Well, artists aren't known for their intelligence.>I would like for you guys to design a thread mascot(s) for /beg/ and/or /int/. It'll be included in most OPs and will hopefully give a sense of cohesion among this insane community.Me, I like how creative the OPs are and I'd hate it to be just rehashing Mr. Mascot in different situations.
rough drawing before bed
>>7698527keked
>>7698402If this is really something made by someone who has 2 weeks of drawing i think we are seeing a generational talent like the famous painters
>>7698543Do you like to praise talented people? When I see their drawings, you just get angry and whine "schizo schizo!!!!"
>>7698543 i have to remind you, this is a master study based on >>7698435i have a LOT of work to do. being able to do 3d forms, anatomy, perspective, painting more complex things instead of just soft simple watercolor... its just differenti need to keep pushing cause if i stop here, i would be pretty bad
Again everyone praises the talented, without helping the races, vile, you don't want others to draw
>>7698543to be fair, we've had generations raised behind the screen looking at pictures, they ought to have some skill based on visuals.
>>7698549You are a talented scumbag, you can copy like that in a short time, scum, look at this shit
>>7698550this post is based on no facts at all. i cant reply to every single post and i try to help anyone who needs help. funanon now drew two references based on what i told him, anyone else is just lazy. just draw.here i helped you. now turn of your computer and grab some paper and copy some manga pages. by hand and pencil, not with a tablet.
>>7698555you did that in 5 minutes at best. you didnt take the time, you didnt erase mistakes, you didnt redraw it five times in a row. its all your own fault. i want to see this copied five times by tomorrow, if you post it again i will be extra vile once i recognise your shitty posts
>>7698555hahaha
>>7698555human form is much harderthe thing i did was simple shapes & flowy forms for the robe. there is more room for differences & looking acceptable, where for human faces you have to do it properly
uh oh another meltie incoming
and you even forgot the pigtails you stupid piece of crap. do you even have eyes dumb motherfucking retard
a lot of you are actually retarded if you think being able to copy is that unusual
>>7698402>>7698313These are good
honestly talentschizo has a point with this oneshe literally hasn't studied color once and can already color better than most people
>>7698556"Just draw" to get this shit >>7698555and these shitty faces
>>7698576>photographer>being surprised they can colorwho knew different types of art can overlapyou are all fucking retarded
>>7698576i do photography, i know color decentlyi know shadows are cooler & such
you are fucking idiots of course a photographer has a good sense of colorwhat the actual fuck is wrong with you people's brainsphotography is also artyou learn aspects of art from photography
>>7698576being into photgraphy gives you a clear advantage regarding light, shadows and colours, dont be stupid.
>>7698580>>7698581>>7698585>>7698586photography doesn't teach you value, how light falls on 3d form, color relativity, how to pick colors, and how to pick colors that look good together
>>7698586people here are too stupid to understand or respect photography as an art form or understand in any sense that it teaches you things, these people have the intellect of subhuman neanderthals no one sees photography as an art formit is an art form, she's learned from doing photographyeveryone here is more retarded than ever
>>7698590It does actually, observation is a skill
>>7698590yes it absolutely does what the actual fuck is wrong with you photo editing, understanding what makes a photo look good, how to enhance photography include almost all of these thingsshut the fuck up about shit you don't know anything about
>>7698594you didn't say anything that proves what i said wrong you just said the opposite of it with a bunch of ad hominem
>>7698577i gave you an assignment. copy the girl five times. twice upside down till you get it. actually concentrate and take your time. otherwise you have no rights to complain. after youre done you do it by memory without reference.
>photography is an art form guys, I swear!Lol, I guess words really are empty vessels after all.
>>7698590photography does teach you how light falls on 3d forms...we literally use light angle map app thingies and then imagine our subject so we can choose what time of day may be best to go to a location.it does teach you color. also for what colors look good together. i also like looking into interior design stuff & prefer earthy colors. so i have general ideas.
Why people deny talent? It's just a biological stuff, like there's always that runner that runs more, that's talent. >b-but hardworkYeah that has a part too, but hardwork + talent is what makes you better than the rest
>>7698603but consistent hardwork >>> unharnessed talent
>>7698603why are you still here, you should be drawing. by now you shouldve been done with one face copy.
>>7698577MOGS permabegschizo TO DEATH.
>>7698601you don't draw 3d form and understand it to the level that you know how light hits it in photography and you don't manually pick the colors of a photo, you change them with different camera settings or filters
>>7698604Yeah >>7698611I'm not talentschizo, he thinks you can't draw without talent, i just aknowledge that talent exists, but you can draw without it
>>7698597Before this I was constantly drawing her fucking head, and there were other attempts, I can't draw her better, maybe even worse, here are the previous attempts
You can claim that the russian schizo only needs more time to draw but THE PERMABEGSCHIZO is proof that anti-talent is real
>>7698615>>7698604>>7698603>Talent drawing two days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent hardwork > talentfag who does jackshit
>>7698603Talent is a meme word that means the same as magic to permas and nodraws. It really just comes down to mental acuity which is what the word should be replaced with. Some of these guys are functionally retarded when it comes to picking up abstract art concepts like rotating spheres or seeing form. Doesn't have to do with magic talent you weren't born with.
>>7698620People make fun of that, but i think the Anti-Talent is a real entity, and it showed its face to permabegschizo >>7698466
>>7698614i image the 3d form in my headi cant really draw 3d forms properly. but i try to imagine it, rotate it, etc. its the same thing i do w/ photography>>7698622thats not true!!again, drawing a cartoonish like character with simple lines, following a reference (as its a master study) its different than drawing humans & more complex thingslike twitter just showed me picreli would not be able to do that rn. what i did was pretty simple
>>7698575Take a break from arguing and tell me if you like my drawing of Suika
>>7698618now do it five more times, twice upside down, then from memory.
>>7698626This is talent, to perceive all this abstract crap, I don’t understand how to draw the correct angles and perspectives when drawing heads, that’s why my heads are the same
>>7698626Explain Tyson, Messi, Phelps and Bolt>b-but art is differentIt's not
Alright I finished Lola, and I think that's it for her for a while. Kinda decided to do my own take on her head shape (well taking influence from another artist's design of her) hence why that looks very different. Any critiques welcome, probably won't post on here for a little while.
>>7698644thats mixed with the modern one, eh?
4 years >>7698644A couple weeks >>7698402
More shitty heads, no one will tell you how to draw them normally, loomis and other crap don't help, on YouTube artists just draw abstractly, outlining lines and everything comes out fine,
>>7698641Good genetics, mental acuity (quick thinking/strategy/adapting), and a lot of hard work.You talent seething knobs act like it's all magic beans.
>>7698648idk how to explain it but the lola bunny one is more complex. where a rounded portion at the wrong spot would look offits different.
>>7698603yes, some people will naturally be better at picking up drawing than others. but unlike running, evolution has not selected for art, ever. so while being retarded is a disadvantage, whatever advantage someone has over average people is not likely to be too important.
>>7698652>Good genetics, mental acuity (quick thinking/strategy/adapting),That's talent
>>7698402Very cute, anon. The cross-hatched shadows on the rabbit were quite nice. Keep it up, don't listen to the permabegs
>>7698189Thanks, I've been working on something completely different to my usual stuff as a side project but kinda hit a roadblock to make everything look cohesive. The artist is going to be a great help with this.
>>7698659You think rotating shapes in your head is talent you dumb retard.
ok, so i did this last night. this is a good example when im not doing a master study its not as good. the eyes arent quite right + other issues
Damn Shirahama is kicking my ass
>>7698666You're the dumbest motherfucker itt and that's saying something, please refrain from accessing the internet from now on.
>>7698678I refuse to subscribe to the definition of "talent" that you people have created, not when it touches everything from heaven to hell. You can keep arguing with me about the technicalities of the word while crybabies use it as their excuse for why their pencil is up their ass instead of their hand. Enough.
fun fact: if you follow a cake recipe to the letter, you will have a cake at the end.your brain has a manner it's used to drawing. that manner might be shit. if you don't make an effort to change how you see and create art, either through thinking or seeking out information, don't expect to end up with anything other than shit when you're done.
>someone decides to learn correctly by following a guide and doing exactly what they're supposed to>entire thread calls it talent copying isn't talent. it's copying. she's doing exactly what she needs to do and following instructions and that's why she's moving faster than you
>>7698697no guide taught her how to color thoughever
>>7698651Have you tried starting with a cube and carving away from it?
>>7698700its not that hard...
>>7698697So why can't russian schizo and permabegschizo copy a fucking anime head?
>>7698700i didn't need to learn to color either, a lot of it is aesthetic sensewomen are generally much better at it because we wear makeup and style outfitsmakeup has a lot of color and shadow/lighting theory
>>7698704>>7698708no idea which of these is the real one but both basically convey the same message and equally piss me off so fuck you
>>7698704You're better off just ignoring anything that isn't genuine comments on your art. Don't let the filth drag you down to their level. Let them fester on their lonesome.
>>7698651End yourself
>>7698705Because they're pretending to be retarded, most probably.
>>7698709sorry that you're male and don't have the advantages women do from feminine socialization. sucks to suck. should have transitioned and learned makeup if you wanted to be ahead of the game
>>7698705maybe they are indeed retarded, idk. copying is literally following instructions. you can do a million things, erase over and over, use a grid, try multiple times, overlay, turn it upside down, block it in, measure the distance between landmarks, and other methods. i sincerely get the feeling most of those haven't been attempted, but hey, who knows.
>>7698705because faces need a level of consistency & proportion greater than what i did>>7698709i should have added more. when i said its not that hard, i meant in that i used watercolor where you layer the colors. where i could layer a cooler color for shadows & add warm light colors for light>>7698710i guess :\ >>7698714lmao, imagining someone transitioning to try and improve in art is hilarious
>>7698714kek>>7698720kys
>>7698720its true tho lol. i feel like men don't realize makeup requires a concept of color theory and understand of values at all. you remember the insane magic contour we were all doing in 2016 lmao, we were basically rendering ourselves
Some quick Bridgman hands before I have to head out for the day.>>7698675Based and Atelier pilled.I need to do some studies of those pages. Her hatching work is beautiful.>>7698509Wife material.>>7698672Keep it up, friend. How'd your interview go?
Russianschizo you should transition, maybe they're onto something.
>>7698712Do you want to give me some drawing advice?
>>7698731No, i want you to keep being bad so i can laugh
Russian schizo would learn to draw faces if he transitioned
>>7698732Nit, I'm tired and want to draw normally, give me some advice, I don't like it myself
painstakingly studying to figure out a way to color that i like just to get told it's not hard by someone that hasn't studied color once and can already do it better than me is gonna send me in a joker-like talentpill spiral desu
>>7698723yea, i didnt even think about it like that when it comes to painting my stuff. but like, i guess i have some practice in that department
>>7698736they said in this very thread they've got multiple sources of experience with color. is this some elaborate troll?
>>7698739they've never studied how to color art
>>7698715Copying is hard when you're trying to achieve similarity, I copied this head>>7698640that's considered normal copying
>>7698736depends on what you are coloringif you are coloring human skin with a certain finish, whether matte or dewy, all the shades, lighting, etc. its insanely hard. i couldnt do it rn.what i colored in my piece is relatively simple. can you not put down green for grass? cant color a rock? cant make a white bunny & brown robe?like these are all pretty simple & uniform fabrics in a cartoon style. it would be different for realism, human face, etc
>>7698732NTA but why are you being a nigger about it? Many anons have made it out of apparent permabegness like funschizo and lolilizardrapechizo.Russianschizo has shown more potential than permabegschizo
>>7698715>>7698705>>7698697
Only had time for two figgies today. Feel like the rust is properly shaken off, might try some figures from imagination tomorrow.>>7698575Cute Suika. Do a Yuugi next, she's my favorite 2hu.>>7698675I need to pick that manga up again. Those panels are kino
>>7698749ivan has frequent melties and usually fills the thread with hostile whining. the kiwitards obsessed with "permabegs" suck too though.
>>7698736do you have experience wearing makeup? if not, that's your problem
>>7698575Your stuff is always good, chad. I would critique things like the chains but it's clearly just a sketch. Do you have any piece you want to go further with?
>>7698715>>7698705>>7698697>Why cant everyone do what I CAN do.This is how you find out you are talented.Ever seen those articles about people without internal dialogue or who cant imagine an apple?Same deal. They have no talent.
>>7698738Sorry to hear that friend. Fingers crossed it isn't as as you think.Still, congratulations.
>>7698760following intructions is talent in the same way putting on your shirt is talent
>>7698749Russianschizo is annoying, permabegschizo at least is funny
>>7698727S*n*x broh what are you doing here? Big fan!!! Such an honor!
drawing
>>7698760>without internal dialoguehuh?! Does that really exist?In an unrelated note, I finally managed to draw an ear that feels cute to me. Making them bellow eyes seems to work well. Now I need to decide wtf I want to do with the chin later.>>7698705Idk about this shitty talent or not talent discussion, but if there's something that I can say after so much work is that "Learning" is also a skill. For some, there's a skill issue of literally not having the essential education or never having the proper "learn to learning" phase in life. It's not really talent because it's a solvable issue, but generates a lot of difficuties as long the time passes and one grows older. That and a lot of other factors of course.
>>7698779look at this>>7698555
lovecraft would be 135 today, my niggermans. how about some shadow practice?
>>7698547>schizo thinks he's talented and everyone is just seething>>7698402I thought I made decent progress, but if this is the work of someone 2 weeks in, I'm inspired.... and really need to get to speed.
>>7698693yes, but following a recipe to the letter is the killer of soul
>>7698402kino
>>7698782Okay...First. Actually buy a 0.5 or smaller mechanical pencil and draw bigger. It's physically impossible for you to do a copy of this image with the current range you are working on.Second. Fuck me, your arms are better constructed/positioned than mine, my dear.
>>7698783tomorrow.Instead I did a facial impression study.It looks traced, unfortunately.Also trying to figure out hatching for shadows, but it doesn't quite work as I envisioned.Alas, time!
>>7698794expressions can be hard. check out some comedic ones, they might be easier (jim carrey etc)
>>7698779how to learn?
Am I to late? Old sketch
From above comment
>>7698793New heads, I don't know how to make similarities>>7698793This is shitty arms and head
>>7698779But if I don't know how to learn, how do I learn how to learn?
Just copy and just draw and also this>>7698804
>>7698720You don't draw faces, you draw feces
>>7698794some minor corrections that irked me. But now I mustn't look at it again and go to sleep.>>7698796good idea!
>>7698684The meaning of a word doesn't change because you don't like it.
>>7698804compare the ref and your own drawing and correct what doesn't seem to match.It takes more effort than what you put into. I bet this didn't even take you 10 minutes.Even my trash takes an hour and I should put in 3 at least.
>>7698804fix them nigga, they're right in front of you still... except you're drawing them small as fuck for some reason so you probably can't erase shit. you spent like 5 minutes making these, what do you expect?
>>7698798>>7698809That's kinda philosophical and whatever I answer is probably bullshit, but learning to learn is something that happens mostly during our childhood, specially at school. It's more of a tacit knowledge than one that could be passed to you. You're supposed to test it a lot when younger and figure it out how to best yourself at that. But since profile comes from a lot of different circumstances, adults are broken down everywhere and prune to have difficulties in learning as a whole.It's still solvable as an adult though by the mere logic of trying things differently until something works. You just can't try to do the same things the same and expect them to look different. So discard stuff as you go trying to improve, discard methods that didn't work, discard thoughts that took you nowhere, and continue trying until it works.Later comes the part where we try to maintain what we learned. But that's another hole and another anon said I'm starting to have symptoms of dementia and I got scared for real yesterday.
>>7698804Don't be retarded, just trace them and add minor deliberate "imperfections" to avoid people from finding out.
>>7698705Unironically anti talent, have you ever seen that kid that is just too bad at sports?
>>7698788the point of the analogy is that doing things the same way leads to the same results. so if your current conception of drawing leads you to making shit, you need to change it radically, not keep doing the same thing hoping that eventually something else comes out.
>>7698815>good idea!i take a lot of caps form movies and shows, just for reference reasons. look at the cool shadows here on tia carerre (my waifu)
>>7698827cheating
Give me your best circle you can draw free hand.
what's a good pencil sharpener that doesn't suck and let's me engage as much of the side of a pencil as possible?
>>7698836Lol who cares xD
>>7698831in my defense i was younger than everyone and a skinny bitch
>>7698838Hmmmm.....
>>7698854Looks corporate af my nigger, as if taken from a pamphlet trying to sell me shared time in some ski resort
>>7698509
>>7698858
>>7698846A shaving blade, or one of those 20th century ones Will Weston recommended when one of his students mentioned shaving blades.
>>7698499Try doing just a section and bringing it to the same level of finish as the reference. As for choosing shadows, just darken and hue shift the color in the light. you may need to saturate or desaturate depending on what's around it. Color can get more complicated depending on what you're doing, but keep it simple for now. I'd say you're better off concentrating on your observation skills. Drawing will carry your paintings and painting is just drawing with a bigger brush. Use bigger shapes when painting. When the shapes are placed correctly, you only really have to mess with the edges. Proko and many other youtube channels cover proportions and observational techniques.
>>7698874don't you need some sand paper for that as well?
For some reason I really like drawing clothing>>7698725>>7698753Yeah Shirahama is one artist I want to leech some style off of
just draw whatever draw whatever the fuck you want. the more you draw the more free you become, the more free your mind, the easier the ideas flow, fun is the key, fun is the keyyyy
>>7698848Are you still skinny?
>>7698299Behold, the mascot this thread deserves but not the one it needs
>>7698902Kilroy was here
Meme indie game goat doing a kick.I attempted to construct a complex pose and to draw an upturned face.
>>7698892no
>>7698920use ref
tama is actually such a good artist to reference for beginners, the endproduct may seem daunting but the actual lines are very easy to analyze because you only have a few overlapping lines or blacks, you guys sperg out for no reason, someone who is in the middle of line lessons in an art course should be able to replicate similar results.
First time doing painting portraits studies! I’m learning from Marco Bucci. I know the head in isn’t a tilt and has no jaw. LOL. But any other pointers? Also, I really love Marco Bucci’s course, recommendations is much appreciated! Thank you
Dont mind me, just posting actual artwork. I liked the corporatefag's idea, I'll just draw whatever for today
>>7698920Use AI and trace the result.
>>7698933try to fix it firstask for pointers once you can't see what's wrong
>>7698902i look like this
GOD MADE ME TALENTLESS.
>>7698881All you need is hard work.
>>7698783Really wish the guy went to a doctor sooner. Could have had 2 or 3 more decades of kino from him.RiP.
i'm making sum animation
>>7698953>are you winning sun?omfg
>>7698775beaner my beloved
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7698925>tamait does look like something i would likedo you have their socials somewhere?
>>7698960>theirPretty sure it's just one person
>>7698960>>7698189birdgirl posted them last thread
>>7698965their, she, her, himwhatever>>7698967oh thanks, imma look there :3
>>7698958WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Can you give me your opinions and advice?
>>7698972MOGS ME
>>7698972My opinion: you mog him.My advice: keep mogging him.
Thet say you can master color theory by cutting your dick off
>>7698990you can always just ignore color tho
Bros. I am not making it.
>>7699003post art
>>7698999I believe I will
>>7698972She's looking a bit too long and her face looks a bit flat.Other than that it's super cute and i love her clothes.
Bought a surface pro and clip studio paint. Decided to break it in with an /a/ drawthread request that I liked
What happened to deefag? Did wagecucking kill yet another artist?
drawing something new
>>7699036Get a refund while you still can
>>7698640fun study, thanks
>>7698942God made you exactly who you need to be for you to be who you want to be. (fax) ((tell me))
>>7699043love that weird purple thing
>Draw a doodle to get the pose down>Feed it to AI>Get a mostly complete drawing I can use as referenceI have cracked the code.
>>7699036Use it well, my friend.Make sure to draw highlights on the edges facing the moon.
>>7698934You won. You won because you created. You are free. Clap clap clap
>>7699037I think your studies are already paying off. That and consistently drawing are doing wonders.I actually really like the overall composition. Might actually do a redraw of this.>>7699041They posted earlier in this thread, didn't they?Speaking of missing regulars when did the Androgynous twink anon stop posting? I miss seeing their stuff.
It would appear that without Pawell to take on the yoke of /ic/'s Art sins, we are doomed to have those amongst us succumb to the pitfalls of begdom. And on the third day.... And on the third day.... And on the...
>>7698414I don't like seeing loli shit in here when they have their own containment thread, but it's not hard to ignore. Gore is a lesser offence in my book.
ALL I DRAW IS MOTHERFUCKING TRASH. FUCKING MOCKERY OF HUMAN LIFE.DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT NOT EVEN WORTH THE PENCIL IT IS DRAWN ON.GOD MADE ME TALENTLESS TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH HE GRACED THE TALENTFAGS.I have also noticed that fuckhuge canvases (9920,7016) respond nicely to brushes. Now i see why japs draw in fuckhuge resolutions.
>>7698445Rainbow is your worst design, she is not pleasant to look at. Her colors are really muted and adding browns in there is just plain ugly. I would overhaul her design if I were you.
Struggling to convert that low-opacity round brush into proper lines.I wonder if anything is wrong with this. I was happy to be able to draw this in just a few minutes, though.
>>7699075sculpt it baby
>>7699070Drink birdstacy piss to absorb talent
>>7699070You need an attitude change Mister!
>>7699082Hey, one man's trash is another man's garbage
>>7698972You're very untidy with your lines and painting. You have fundamental problems, but the first thing you should correct is the effort you're putting into painting and drawing things cleanly. A little bit of untidiness looks soulful, this much just looks careless.>>7699075If it's not already set, you could try putting the blending mode on the brush to multiply. This is good for a couple of minutes, low opacity brushes are good for sketching.
>>7699091Could you kindly pyw
>>7698366Money laundering
My Bridgman copies are atrocious but I think it is helping me draw and better grasp the forms of the hand.
>>7699105Those look pretty good. I'd be more worried if you didn't think your studies were bad. Practice is just structured failure. If you aren't failing you aren't growing. Keep it up, also have fun with it. Get jiggy with it. Make a character that has hands for feet ahaha get a lil goofy wit it naw I mean. Ahaha, make its fingers into hands, hands for teeth teeth. Make a cock into a hand so that penetration is just fingering.
Unfinished "study".5 fucking hours.But for the first time to try this type of stuff - it's alright I think. I see where i need to add more volume etc, but now I'm gonna sleep. What do you guys think?
>>7699114Your values on the mouth are the strongest part of the painting. Your values become kind of weak in other parts of the study. Pretty good overall. A completed study, is a successful study. Great job
>>7699110T-thanks. .You too.
>>7699107/l/ not allowed anymore?
>>7698283nice OP, what a clusterfuck last thread was
>>7698407they are cringe to look at
>>7698407Get with the times old man. Porn is out, Jesus is in. Christ is King!
>>7699092Of course, here's some recent stuff.
>>7699125This is the only board were loli and furry should be allowed if the images are actually made by an anon here. You'll have to catbox link it because these rules are so fiercely enforced on one of the slowest boards on the chan for some insane reason.
>>7699145You gotta keep the artists in line. They're a slave people after all.
>>7698455The Bargue Drawing Course was ordered roughly from easy to hard. First you copy the 2d plates, then you copy the 3D casts from life.
>>7699143I thank god everyday for letting me draw my own porn
>>7699150I second this. I personally know a professional artist who recommended these to me when I started. I'd don't do them, lmao, but I think it's a testament to how valued these are.
>>7699153Same, I just couldn't get into it. It's so fucking boring.
>>7699132cutethe head / neck placement feels kinda off, did you reference 3d ?but it might also be that there's just a lot of spine twists
>>7699114Really good for a first try, the mouth is beautiful. 5 hours isn't so bad either especially during the active learning process.
>>7699156>referenceHe traces 3d models (and it shows).
>>7698925yea!! i love his work, but it seems possible (which is why i tried)it also helps me imagine larger pictures with simpler lines. instead of getting lost in detailsthe bigger thing for actual skill is being able to actually imagine and create such pretty compositions. i hope to achieve his level some day
>>7699145I don't mind them at all, my grandmother painted a lot of african kids and we have paintings of them framed all around the house, never really thought about it as something that needs to be banned but i also don't like to draw stuff like that. Maybe it got deleted cause it was extremely sexual?
Post post art
>>7699156>did you reference 3d ?nah, the doll looked akward with the spine twisted in this way and I was too lazy to place the doll right, so I just referenced a bunch of "over the shoulder" looking back images.>>7699159hey anon, I see you came back for another humilliation ritual
How is this fanart
>>7699161Art shouldn't be banned full stop. I get the rule on other boards, and it's not a hill I'd die on but in my opinion it's still kind of retarded if it's actually a piece of drawing an anon made. Like 50% of coomers are gooning it to either loli or furries anyways but 4chan is scared people are going to post their fursuits or something.
>>7699037*sigh* mogs me...
>>7699166Yes, I will keep humilliating you as long as I see you here posting your traced garbage
>>7699174you will do anyhing but drawing, uh...
Fever dream type day
>>7699175I draw unlike you, though you'll never know who I am, lol.
>>7699114>5 fucking hoursDamn boi I know it's your first time but make sure to reflect on how you can improve your workflow. I mean this in a very broad sense: see if you can work faster by changing tool shortcuts, using layers effectively, spotting mistakes earlier (e.g. flip the canvas more often), removing distractions (no browser/discord/whatever), etc etc etc.
>>7699170>Art shouldn't be banned full stopDepends on the legality and the social reaction t b h , like that guy that got beheaded because he drew muhamed
>>7699161>Maybe it got deleted cause it was extremely sexualyeah probably because of that
>>7699179It's okay, knowing I'm living rent-free in your head thanks to you is enough.
>>7699079I don't know what you mean. >>7699091I'll try that out tomorrow, thanks. I just assumed people used an airbrush with a higher hardness setting. Was testing that out.
>>7699119Thanks, it's like 1/3 done. Posted it because i wanted to know if it any good. I will finish it after sleep with your advices in mind. >>7699157Thank you too! Mouth took me like a 1,5 hours cause i ruined it in a first place and redrawed it 50 times till I finally got it done. I'm pleased to hear that I didn't not failed.Goodnight fellas.
>>7699184I'm free to disappear whenever I want, you're not, you're in the spotlight.>living rent-free in your head thanks to you is enoughHurr?
I often see /ic/ blaming thirdies for undercutting firsties when it comes to charging art prices but can anyone name at least 3 notable third world artists? I play a lot of porn games and I seriously doubt they're made by some sweaty brown dude with a makeshift tablet drawing somewhere in the slums of Mumbai or Manila.
>>7699184You're replying to a schizo. It's best to ignore and let it seethe.
>>7699192Khyleri atleast.
>>7699192nekojira is malaysianbut ofc he isn't undercutting anyone, he can charge what he wants
birdgirl here (about to go to bed)but just wondering, i dont have any plans on going professional in the future. it doesnt seem like a possibilitybut when people say that artists struggle, how bad is it? like, how good does one have to be to be able to have it as their primary job? how many years of training & creating does it take to reach the level of a professional?also... what are the fields/routes that have the highest amount of professionals able to feed themselves?
>pick up pencil>begin shaking uncontrollably and frothing at the mouth
>>7699200>what are the fields/routes that have the highest amount of professionals able to feed themselves?NSFW.
>>7699192It's more of an issue in the broader commission market where the working artists aren't necessarily notable figures. Artists that are working primarily in projects rather than commissions tend to get those jobs through connections, so artists from places like mumbai or manila wouldn't be as common.
>>7699202wait really!?idk if i could do that. i never look at nsfw as isif i ever get to that skill level in the future... is there a way i can do it in a more artistic/romantic type way instead of overly sexual & it sell? like... a bit more tastefulim more than likely just going to draw for fun for the rest of my life. but if i take a path of art, id like to do it in a way that doesnt make me uncomfortable
>>7699192they undercut prices in the commission market. if they were notable and had cheap prices, they'd be flooded with too many requests. so it's the entry level where they take over. porn games are a bit too high effort for that.
>>7699167I like how elegant her porportions are, but the overly calm expression on her face seems incompatible with the dynamism of her body
I’ve missed multiple begint threads by now. I really want to draw, but I lost my cat. The door was left open while I was at work. She was my emotional support animal. I have paranoia, anxiety, and autism. It’s really hard for me right now.
>>7699221im so sorry anon :< i hope she comes back. dont beat yourself up
>>7699200Finding work as an artist is more about connections than skill. If you aren't good at cultivating a persona or know people, you have to be skilled or at least intriguing enough for strangers to take a chance on you. So very skilled.If you're good at social stuff you can get by with a lot less skill.Porn used to be another solid option for socially inept artists but the market is more saturated than ever so you'd either need a hook, or be very skilled.Another thing worth noting is online spaces are a lot more competative. You might honestly make a better living going trad and selling locally instead.
>>7699221The door was "left open"? What a weird way to say you left it open.
>>7699223oh ok, desu itll prob just remain a hobby for me. idk if i can pull any of that off
>>7699222Thank you. I’ve put her litter out, and a trap cage with fish flavored cat food at the back. Only time will tell,I believe she’s near home because she is shy. It’s still tough. But thank you <3
>>7699225I live with others. It was left open because the auto lock got jammed.
>>7699225Why would you assume they said it weird rather than the more obvious conclusion that they cohabit with 1 or more other humans?
>>7699225Living alone? In this economy?
>>7699229Because that's what people usually do when they're responsible for something.>>7699228I see, well at least you know who's to blame.
>>7699226It's easier than you might think, but you'd have to expand your social circle to include other types of creatives. Another option is to sponge off someone and being female would give you an advantage there.
>>7699200it's easyyou use your womanly charms to get a vgen invite, then start selling art assets to delusional kids that want to make it as streamers
>>7699231Evade responsibility? What?
>>7699192Magister_jp is brazilian and he charges these prizes for comms.On top of that he has the jewest subscription scheme I have seen (monthly subscription that only gives you the current month, all previous months are paid 15 bucks a month)And most big shot twitter artists are SEA or sum shit.
>>7699230What can I say? I'm waiting for societal collapse in the middle of nowhere, enjoying my early retirement.
>>7699232i wouldnt sponge off others. especially since i hate the feeling of reliance on others where my fate is left to them.i can try growing socials, idk, we'll see>>7699233idk what vgen is, but ill look into it in the future
>>7699234Do you want me to look those words up for you or do you have access to seach engines?
>>7699231Damn. Okay, and what would you though if they were responsible?
>>7699241Make them compensate you for all damages, sue the crap out of them.
>>7699212Thanks anon
Lines tomorrow, the faces are looking funny to me too so I might work on those more
>>7699221Back in my day, we called “Emotional Support Animals” pets. Go to the shelter. Get another cat. Not that hard.
>>7699200Post you art on twitter but pose next to it with your cleavage showing. Guaranteed likes.
>>7699239You can try socials but only do it if you think you'd enjoy it. It's a huge time and energy sink with very little monetary gain for the majority of artists. It can get you a lot of commissions, but unless you can charge obscene money for them you'll have to suppliment them with other work, and commissions have the worst ratio for time invested to money earned which can often make it impossible to actually do any other work.Commissions are the first step to making cash as an artist but they aren't sustainable long term unless your cost of living is very low. The end goal for a social media artist is always going to be something like a patreon.
>>7699240By all means, explain it to me.
>>7699251This, just make cosplay and post your art sometimes
>>7699225>>7699248Man, you guys suck.. at least birdstacy and monkey friend would have my back i hope.>>7699242Suing… haha what a joke. My coworker had someone destroy their back yard with explosives and he’s been trying to sue this guy a get him in jail for 2 years now. You do not sue people in America, it is a myth. You’re clearly a neet
>>7699037I definitely failed to capture the same charm of yours but it was fun to sketch.
>>7699253Sure: To evade responsibility means to avoid or escape your duties or the consequences of your actions. It's about refusing to be accountable for something you are supposed to do or have already done.Common ways people do this: * Blaming Others: Shifting fault to someone else. * Making Excuses: Using weak reasons to justify a failure or mistake. * Denial: Refusing to admit you did something wrong. * Procrastination: Delaying a task hoping it will be forgotten. * Playing the Victim: Portraying yourself as helpless to avoid blame.Why people do it:The main reasons are often rooted in fear: fear of failure, fear of punishment, or a desire to protect one's ego. It can also stem from a simple lack of commitment.In short, it is the opposite of taking ownership. While it may provide temporary relief, it ultimately damages trust, harms relationships, and builds a reputation for being unreliable.
>>7699221If you have a photo of your cat you might as well go out and look around, ask people if they've seen it. If it's an indoor cat it probably hasn't roamed very far and might even be with one of your neighbours.
>>7699258>You do not sue people in AmericaI'm sorry you live in a lawless shithole, anon.
>>7699233I've got a vgen invite, what do i do with it?
>>7699261Ok. Now explain to me why you think the usual thing people do when they're responsible for something is to evade that responsibility, and why you believed this to be the case in a situation with a more likely explaination plainly available.
>>7699263Not for long. 2026 will be my escape year. Hopefully my cat comes back by then. If not, I hope whoever finds her cherishes her.
>>7699269>more likely Source for this? You have the statistics I presume?
>>7699272No statistics I'm afraid, just common sense.
>>7699274Mmm, I see.
>>7699225>>7699231Honestly anon, what point are you trying to make? It could have been me, it could have been someone else who lives with me. It doesn't really matter. All I know is that she's gone and I've done a lot to help encourage her come back, and also the idea of suing anyone is ridiculous. instead of compassion, you decided to pick a fight over semantics. what a childish thing to do.
>>7699281Dont worry anon. Cats are very independent and she will somehow make it back.
>>7699281>It doesn't really matterIt does though. Perhaps you'll understand when and if your escape plan works.
>>7699281How long ago did it happen? Reach out to your neighbors, and look around if you can. Try calling out. I've heard that putting the cat's litterbox outside can help coax them back based on scent, but I don't know if it really works. Maybe ask /an/'s cat threads. Good luck anon. I'd be devastated if my cat was taken or lost somehow.
>>7699285Tf is wrong with you? In what way does it matter? I have a lot of people supporting me and a family in the country I'm getting a visa for. I bet that is something you don't have judging by that attitude of yours. >>7699284Thank you, it just hurts in the moment. I will try to draw regardless of the fears over this.
Live drawings while watching my friend's Uma Musume session.
>>7699294>>7699287MOGS MEEEEEEEEE
>>7699293>In what way does it matter?Well I guess that'd mean starting our exchange all over again, wouldn't it.
>>7699071She's meant to look like a more fantastic 80s exercise outfit, but I see what you mean.
>>7696874Page 25 done...>>7697319>Thank you. You are cool, your art is cool and your replies are cool. Gonna finish drawing her in dedication for you.Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!>>7699144AMAZING!!!>>7699114I love this so much, I could stare at her mouth for days..>>7699132WWWWOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!>>7698878I really enjoy this, the ref, your studies. Saved.>>7698789This is nice!!!>>7698402WOWZERS... Best in thread no doubt>>7698313I REALLY like her glute+hamstring line... ahhhhh! Saved just for that line curve!>>7698753EPIC FIGS!!
>>7699305>WOWZERS... Best in thread no doubt>Best in thread >Probably her 3rd drawing so farGod is mocking me.
>>7699290I'll thank you for him, he's probably ungrateful unintentionally due to his recent loss, thanks for your concern anon.
>>7698759I'm doing a "draw a piece every day August challenge" so I'm just doing sketches these days, I'll go back to colors in September. How would you draw the chains?
>>7698575It feels like a crime calling something this good a sketch. Blog?
>>7699290Thank you for the support, it means a lot!I put the litter out, there's a trap cage with food bait in it, she's microchipped. She is a senior cat so I don't think she wandered too far. I think it's only a matter of time, I'm just sad. thank u again >>7699298Soooo you're saying i'm> desire to protect one's ego > damages trust, harms relationships, and builds a reputation for being unreliable.> Portraying yourself as helpless to avoid blame.maybe I just wanted a little support from strangers in a thread I frequent every week. You are hardcore projecting your ego issues, but your replies are entertaining to see just how retarded you are.
>>7699305Have you tried checking how much organic attention your comic generates without the mass replying strategy?
>>7699314Wtf? Bro, you are fighting invisible demons. You are so braindead. Just shut up
>>7699319>You are hardcore projecting your ego issuesReally? Tell me more about myself.
>>7699236Man that guy improved more in the past 2 years than in the last decade :^)
>>7699325I don't swing that way, faggot.
I am starting to get depressed over my permabegness again.
>>7699327What? What are you talking about?
>>7699305If I can give a critique, I would say that the comic being horizontal is quite satisfying, but the amount of text is boring compared to the visuals. Especially for an erotica comic like this, you want to go for minimal text and let the story explain itself with the visuals. Not a hard rule, but just the advice I have for this. I like it so far though.
>>7699331I don't suck dick.
>>7699334Could've fooled me to be honest.
>>7699326It's really intriguing... wonder why that is.
>>7699336lmfao went silent after that, gottem
>>7699342Are you talking about anon or are you talking about anon?
>>7699318https://x.com/Goobdo?t=h8EEC-F2dgTXf3XPkBQ7xA&s=09Thank you, it means a lot
>>7699343baby boy is so eager, you stroking your meat right now? eagerly waiting for another reply from the sperg so you can cum?
>>7699305Your bodies are always wonderfully solid looking.The idea of giving the subject room to negotiate is very interesting, I definitely agree with the idea that it's unproductive to have them become hard and unyeilding. Are you pulling this material from elsewhere or just basing it on your own thoughts?
>>7699346You're disgusting.
Doodling
>>7699362Looks cool. Reminds me of a digimon.
this one needed more time but 20 min was all I could spare
>>7699091>your art is bad because it is badlol, lmao>>7699144work on your edges, it's blurry.
>>7699320>mass replying strategy?lmao! I don't have any "strategy" xD, since I'm just making barely one post per thread, the least I can do is to make the most of it, and give some (You)s. If I wanted "attention" I wouldn't be here. This place is for lonely people having some silly fun just for the lolz. People used to have hobbies, you know, like playing guitar, growing shit on a yard, fixing old things. This is just as fun.>>7699333Thanks anon! Yes, I know what you mean, but I really want to write those thoughts and dialogues as much as drawing the pictures. I think I managed to do both things and have fun doing it. It feels really nice and rewarding when I can fit all the text I wrote in one page. It's like solving a puzzle lol.>>7699350Thank you so much anon! Yes these are just my own thoughts. I spend more time writing down these stories, than actually drawing them lol. That's why asking me to cut away the text is useless, that makes no sense to me. I would prefer to cut the drawings and do just the text ultimately lmao.Maybe sometimes I come up with some phrases related to "The book of the new sun" in example, like in the previous page, the guy says that he feels like he can work out a way to satisfy everyone in that "demonstration", just like Severian says in the book when (Master Gurloes I think) told him that an executioner could please different interests at the same time depending on the way he presented the performance, one could work a visual illusion to please everyone depending on their subjective viewing angle.>>7698509CHALLENGE!!!
>>7698645No, I meant "Nu" specifically for me...I actually was thinking "People will think that's referring to the crappy new design" but didn't give enough of a damn to change the name. I meant this is how I'll probably draw her when I draw her without studying her, just prefer this head shape. Oh, and yes I forgot to draw her damn tail. >>76986484 years? No, 1 year and 11 months. Why did you say my pic is the result of 4 years? Just very confused you even said that unless you meant to tag a different picture altogether. >>7698653I'm confused desu what my crappy study has to do with that other person's superior art (hopefully I can do paintings like that someday).
>>7699409I don't mind the amount of text, but I understand the criticism of it in a comic format. Have you considered going for a more illustrated book vibe? Like several paragraphs with an illustration for setting the scene. You could try adding something around the challenge drawing that tells a story in a couple of paragraphs.
>>7699403I didn't say it was bad. Thanks for your critique.
in the past 11 months I've done 103 drawings and seen no significant improvement.
>>7699433Can you post the first one and the last one side by side?
sloppaguys be careful if you ever decide to update your PC BIOS, I can no longer log into my pc due to my TPM Key or something got reset because i update my Bios and the only solution seems to factory reset my whole machine
>>7699435pieces 1 through 5 were studies and random shit so here are 6, 25, and 100some anon a few months ago, when I was on about 50, said that it might feel like progress but it's really not, and I'm making the same mistakes again and again. They were right.
>>7699447My steam deck bios wont detect any of my USBs, ggs its over.
>>7699457yeah you should probably be getting better results by now.What's your process when you sit down to draw, what are you thinking about?
>>7698783Forget shadow practice, draw more eerie, creepy and weird art instead anons
Does using free assets provided by the drawing app considered as cheating?
>>7699504Using how?
>>7699515Something like background or texture assets
>>7699519Yes, you're not drawing them yourself
Finally got the actual Apple Pencil oh my fucking god the pressure thing?? I’m speechless but also jfc 100 quid ouch and the fact that it needs a specific fucking adapter? Ridiculous>>7699221I’m so sorry anon this sucks. I believe she’ll come back. Go look for her too
Is it just me or there has been like a hard turn to traditional among Japanese artists lately? Even hardcore "no rules just tools" artists like Hiroya Oku have been posting nothing but trad sketches nowadays.
>>7699564what adapter? my apple pencil is useable as is no extra thing neededAlso blog maybe?
>>7699573I have a cheap gen 10 ipad so I needed 1 gen pencil that needs a lighting to USB c adapter Don’t have social media
Niggas really take years to start being able to draw things that look ok
>>7699578ah I see, I got an old iPad which still got lighting portalso shame :( I really liked the girl you posted last time
>>7699572because if you use the computer tools, might as well let the computer draw everything. theres no value in automation besides factory tier production. going back to "handmade" is the only logical choice to stand out.
>>7699107fair enough >>>/b/938749170
>>7699600Kek
>>7698783this is a good reference, thanks
>>7699581R-really? Here's my first year compilation of stuff I drew, is it really that horrible?>>7699598Pretty much what I thought. Things really changed from last year, when all he did was spam AI generated videos of Chiho.
>>7699615>including bridgman studies in a progress compilation
Bedtime procrastination is such a vicious cycle...
>>7699564brush(es)?
>>7699619I liked how they came out :)Besides I was (still am) a nobody, so all credit goes to Bridgman sensei
>>7699041she unironically got fired on her first day of the new job lmao, she said it on discord
Gigabeg here.What's the benefit in doing gesture drawings in 2-3 minutes?(everywhere I read people say to do it quickly but they don't say why)
Practice
>>7699629The longer you take, the least gesture they become, naturally. The point is for you being able to quickly gasp the general movement of things and people without being distracted of structure. The more time you take, the more you start adding details that doesn't include the gesture itself. It's okay for you to take longer at start though if you are not used, but always try to get faster as you go on later sessions.
>>7699629>>7694811
>>7699629Quickly is 30'/1''. It just forces you to quickly capture the essential lines describing a pose, but if you only do that your proportions/anatomy will get sloppy. People usually recommend progressively taking more time as the excercise goes on, like 20 30' poses, 10 1'', 5 2.5'', and so on.
>>7699629>What's the benefit in doing gesture drawings in 2-3 minutes?none
>>7699425Yeah I did that before like in picrel. It depends, I do these on a whim. About the comic pages, I do them like that because it is much easier to finish them fast in that way. I can't afford the time it takes to do it in a more "user friendly" format.. lol>>7699615(nta)... Horrible? Your stuff is amazing, you can draw and render anything >>7699447Cool scribbles fren! Sorry about that technical nightmare
I did this super quickly, tried not to get too into the details. kept it sketchy
actually. felt it he needs a door
>>7699650cute
>>7699651tnx! im thinking about adding more to it. but maybe just moving onto new things would be best
>>7699650RAT
>>7699041I've been on a fanfic writing kick instead of a drawing kick I habitually hobby jump and I watched arcane and got jilco brainroti would draw them but I genuinely hate drawing silco lmao he's the least fun character to draw ever. he's so emaciatedbasically I need jinx pussy and I need silco as a vessel for it but my pen doesn't want to draw him he's too scrawny and angular so. writing it is >>7699648good work! your sense of observation is great for how early you on are especially! keep it up>>7699305i love how you did her thighs in that second panel, I didn't realize quite how muscular she was. enjoyed the vivid description of the restraints as well. sorry I missed your last few, I need to catch up
>>7699655well thats actually a mouse >>7699656tnx!!
>>7699660idk I just decided to be shameless and just indulge the worst aspects of my mindi got inspired by remembering inbred by Ethel Cain existed and it sparked my artistic intrigue for a subject I can't draw music helps a lot I just listen to inbred on repeat to visualize jilco because I can't fucking draw them to write instead
todays bullshit
so what do i title it? do i keep A.P. Lovecraft? i think its self explanatory. pls respond
>>7699613the shadows make it extra fun
>>7699646Thanks anon, I love how you convincingly achieve a sense of depth using just overlaps and value shifts, and also how you can so effectively depict certain 'complicated' materials with minimal marks, such as the stone in that pic>>7699650Adorable, could fit right as it is in a fairytale book
a quick sketch >>7699682tnx!! i love those styles
>>7699671the neck isn't a sphere
>>7699690cylinder*
>>7699690He's simplifying them obviously?
Do I have a chance at being an artist when my drawings look like this?
>>7699690drawing is really impressive to me. you literally need partial knowledge that doctors have, at least anatomically, but it doesnt stop with humans nor with living beings. the grind never ends~ so much to draw and so little time ~~
>>7699695Move on already, draw a lot more
ONE CHANCE IT'S ALL I ASK, PLEASE GOD, BE FAIR JUST FOR ONCE
>>7699695no
>>7699675Very nice anon, clean, defined shapes, aside from the achieved likeness ofc. What are you using to make these? Charcoal pencils?
>>7699690yeah it stops being a cyllinder when you add the larynx, the SCM and the traps, which i did?
>>7699702this one was a mix of 6b and 8b graphite. i crank up the contrast after uploading to achieve a closer look to how it looks irl. this one went a little beyond, because i thought it looks neat. i should really try charcoal sometime these days, an old cooking teacher of mine suggested it many moons ago.
>>7699696it's funny to name the sternocleidomastoid and sound smart.
>>7699707nta and kinda unrelated but what do you use to sharpen your pencils?
>>7699699okay, just logically, think about it. the "less" talented or smart one is, the more you need to subsidize it with hard work, no? as unfair as it sounds, you have to work twice as hard if not more than others do. but that cant happen if you dont do it and dedicate every morsel of free time to achieving that. i dont believe in talent either way, but i believe in intelligence, intuition and study/work. blood sweat and cum is what its going to need and nothing less. cum because you need to relax some more.
>>7699709its a sharpener that says made in china on the back and made in germany on teh blade lol. its similar this one, but an older make: https://www.staedtler.com/de/de/produkte/bleistifte-und-zubehoer/spitzer/staedtler-510-10-metallspitzer-510-10/ and then i use a knife as well if i need it pointythe blade on this one has been sharp for some 6-8 years or something, which is impressive.
>>7699468photo reference (or game screenshot but more recently always photo) plus some type of head construction. I don't think I'm able to do any of them right because the head and face comes out the same no matter what.
Dunno if I should finish this doodler or not
>>7699715are you ending above the knees because you're afraid to draw the full limbs?
>>7699715i like the stern expression and the protruding belly. like she is judging my knob size but she isnt sure if its good or bad. suckable at least.thats what the drawing is telling me
>>7699716no my reference is a statue of a cherub that cuts off at the thigh it's from the Roman statue thread>>7699717so true actually
>>7699711> I don't believe in talent, just draw, just put 200% more effort than the rest...Easy to say for talented rats like BirdStacy, or Favela. My effort output is already over 300% and I just can't anymore... so easy to say when you just move your hand and shit happens...
>>7699719can you show the ref?
>>7699722ofc, I didn't follow it closely tho and stopped looking at it after I got a few lines down >>7684896
>>7684896knew it, the torso cant bend that way
>>7699724ye I just realized what I did also lol symbol drawing issue, I'll fix it
>>7699724its a stylized drawing, you dont have to be too realistic, thats boring. also, its a demon, how would you know what they can and cant do? huh?
>>7699728i feel like whenever I try to draw something more cartoon I forget my anatomy altogether
>>7699675i forgot, i snapped a picture to show some of the kouhai's in here how to approach a shadow heavy drawing, which is actually quite easy. now beware, this one is before some major fixes in size and shapes, but thats what your first sketch should look like. form here out you can actually do a lot with it sylistically, i went the most boring way and just filled in the blanks after correcting some of the sizes (take breaks even at this point). you could stipple this one, do hatching or something completely funky like a chickenscratchy shadow approach, you only need to beware of the values to achieve the likenss after having the correct outlines. its a lot easier with black and white pictures, because you dont have to analyze to heavily, but concentration is still key.
>>7699720Why don't you move on to another hobby then? Why do you keep coming here to waste your time?
>try doing digital>looks like shit>draw the same thing trad>significantly betterevery fucking time
>>7699751>try doing digital>it looks like shit>try doing traditional>it looks like shit>try following lectures and tutorials>it looks like shit>try practicing more>it looks like shitevery time
>>7699760permabegschizo...
>>7699760i don't do lectures and tutorials because I'm ADHD and also I think basically every tutorial makers art is ugly for some reason I wish someone who's art I actually aspired to be like would make a fucking tutorial
>>7699695seeing as you are still posting and stuck on the same piece you posted 6 weeks ago, no
>>7699776i prefer Lana and the other indie girls more I just like some of Ethel's songs because of the lyrics
Skong work doodle
meme doodle
Yasashii anon-kun wa doko ni iru no kana... benkyō shite iru no kana..?Tonikaku, ganbatte, anon-kun!! Benkyō x 100!!
>>7699816i cant read moonrunescaptcha: S0RYA (me striking my dick to the image)
starting to paint directly with color since i mainly worked with grayscalecolor temperature is the answer
>>7699824:)Stuff from memory after studying from N.O. Chachamaru sensei, master of the soft roundish milf type!How are your studies going anon?
>>7699830ive been doing hands lately, mostly drawing my own left hand and then from memory since i havent saved many hand pictures (yet) and all the art reference image packs make me horny, despite having good hands. the lovecraft with the pods earlier was mine as well, getting some shadow work done.>>7699675also, look at those puffy nipples! jesus lord help me
>>7699830are you the one doing a comic
so i got some gucci ass sumi ink after months of thirsting after it on digital, >>7699564100 quid?jesus thats a beautifull eye tho >>7699221im sorry to hear that>>7699627i love the horse>>7699646damn this is really good>>7699783silksong when???nice honret
>>7699843one monking, to rule them all.... stop making me want to watch it tonight. dumb.... APE! the left one is supercute. you're really getting the hang of this style i think
>>7699837Wow, I didn't know you were 6b kun, I think you trad mog everyone itt mate! I was actually the first comment on that post lolI'll try replicating your process with that portrait later on, I really liked it>>7699842I left it on standby for the moment, I want to make a tanko with some of the many unfinished stories I had laying around that I just passed to digital>>7699843Thank you monkefriend, I see great composition potential with those pieces
>>7699843omg the deer so cute frem
>>7699847>6bRoku-B would be a cool penname if it wouldnt remind me of the slugmonster in naruto. very kind words, /ss/-chad
>>7699852she cute
>>7699846HAHAHAH XDno i wont, now go watch lord of the rings >3and thanks :3youre right tho, i really enjoy this particular style so im happy others enjoy it too>>7699847> I see great composition potential with those piecesnow only left to figure out how and where thank you :D and no problem :3i havent seen you around here for a while, what have you been up to ?>>7699849thanskies frend :DDD
>>7684896what the hell, why is this angel so sexy?? I thought cherubs were supposed to be angel babies, not stacked twinks
>>7699859stacked twinks are biblically accurate thoughalbeitever
>>7699859
>>7699856Studying mostly, I got a whole lot of captures from an Eiken rewatch that I want to study from, also reading Mahoromatic for the 1st time, some huge but inconsecuential changes from the anime so far but very nice dynamic panelling by Bow Ditama sensei, mostly because I wanted to study the simple yet elegant hair solution he comes up with (and also the teacher ofc lol)
muscle study
Finally bought a drawing tablet and started drawing again after like 1.5 years of inventing excuses not to. These are 1 minute gestures from yesterday (top half) and today (bottom). I did them without reading Vilppu, opened the book today and found I was doing them completely wrong lol. It's not a lot, but it is better than doing nothing. I forgot to save references to post them, they are from quickposes and sketchdaily databases.Drawing on the tablet came surprisingly intuitively. There's the difficulty of drawing precise lines, but I think it will go away with experience. The only real problem is the workspace before the screen is impossible to organise in a way that doesn't tire out my hands or make it uncomfortable to draw while allowing me to utilise both the keyboard and the tablet. I hope stretches will counteract this.I want to draw again tomorrow after watching the first Vilppu lecture. Ganbarou, anons!>>7699783Clean and simple. I like it. Brings back good memories of playing through Hollow Knight.>>7699739Thank you for the advice.>>7699671Good practice. Keep it up!>>7699132Ero... I agree with the other anon about the neck, though.
I tried to draw but as soon as I picked up my pencil I blacked out and woke up in a pool of vomit and piss, am I gonna make it
>>7699878did you end up figuring out with your back grounds issue? or was it placements?(i dont remember fully if it was you or someone else so correct me if im wrong)>Bow Ditamaahh i see what you mean with the hairvery nostalgic ';3>>7699859i dont know but i would >>7699783>>7699843i knowi said ''silksong when'' but then i got jumscared by that it might be in two weeks...
sketch of layla tripping over herself>>7699884>tabletmake sure you have at least the most basic stabilization turned on>>7699859this is actually a great example of good speech bubble placement
>>7699925wait, should i be using stabilization on my ipad? i just kind of assumed its cheating
>>7699925it is?
today's practice, making me reconsider my approach to my daily practicing
>>7699933unless it has a very coarse screen surface, yeah. It's your paper friction replacement, just use the basic mode.>>7699939yeah because according to the text your intention is to get us to look at his willie. After initially looking at the hand/head, reading the bubbles placed like that leads the gaze downwards, the space there is open so we fastrack further and flick towards his peeper.
>>7699949>leads the gaze downwardsthats some meta shit right there.
>>7699933No cheats only tools. The only forbidden thing here it is prompting your shit.Using a pencil is not the same as using a brush, or a stick of charcoal, or an airbrush applier. Trad tools have that handling diversity, and digital tools also should have that same diversity. Stabilization is just a simulated "drag and weight" characteristic, which all traditional tools have. A pencil has a certain weight, it causes a certain amount of friction, a digital pen needs to replicate that too.
help can somebody fix the stanky leg :(>>7699947lookin good keep it up
eh, i dont like this face>>7699963sec
>>7699971kino
Call me retarded but i dont understand how long i should draw a flat diagram
I erased and redrew the head many times, but nothing works out, I'm tired of it all, tired of these senseless attempts
I'm tired of everything, all the heads are crooked, wrong, flat, no matter how I watch, no matter how many times I try, this is not a joke or trolling, I'm fed up with everything, I want to draw at least something a little normal
>>7699900Must've been someone else friend (though I suck and always will suck at bgs too lol)>>7699991As long as you want it in principle, the longer it is the nearer the figure is to the observer, however, the "normal" cone of view is generally said to be 60°, you have to find your station point and project from there a such a cone to find out if the rectangle of the figure should "normally" fir in or not. This is very technical so you should study station points and how to find them (it's easy once you know the real measurements of your rectangle)
>>7700015AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I need some advice frens. I've been loorning to draw for a while and I've developed some skills, I can more or less draw stuff proportionately, I can draw a sketch of a full body with all the limbs attached and the proportions roughly match the reference with varying degrees of accuracy, I can even use gesture to make the drawings less stiff, but there's an issue: all my drawings look like absolute shit. I studied from Brent Eviston who preaches confident flowy lines, yet all my lines are just ugly as fuck and I end up going over each line a bunch of times and everything looks like ass. Pic related for some examples, note that these are supposed to be "volumetric" which is why they're so geometric and less naturalistic, but the issue is that I can't seem to control my lines and every drawing looks so dirty. I look at other people's drawings and they don't look like shit, so I've come to the conclusion that I'm doing something wrong. I don't know if the solution is obvious but I'm retarded so I figured I'd ask for help.
why do i suck at painting so bad anons. where do I even go from here
How do you zoom in really close and draw in Krita? I’m trying to learn how to use a Wacom and sketching fine details but the brushes are all big and diluted when i zoom in close. I like starting a drawing from a very small zoomed in point when im doodling
>>7700024USE REFERENCE
>>7699971this is peak.
>>7700028bitch where of what. a real devil girl?
>>7700031of a real grill and then add your own details
>>7700031DON'T ASK FOR ADVICE IF YOU DON'T FUCKING WANT IT
>>7700024You just keep drawing and watching other people’s art streams, use references and try to copy poses or other pieces
>>7700033I want advice but saying " use references " is thr most unhelpful non-advice ever. its like saying "use an eraser" no shit
>Why shouldn't I doodle while watching it?>After all, i've seen it hundreds of times. it's mine.>my own.>my crabness....~
>>7700037HAHA I KNEW YOU WERE GONNA ACT LIKE A PERMABEG FUCKIN FAGGOT
>>7700027??? i have no idea what you're asking. i think most brushes are gonna look shit zoomed in. zooming in is not the greatest of habits anyways.
>>7700027Use a vector based app such as Concepts
>>7700035okay now what about actual pointers on this specific piece instead of generic advice
>>7700051just about everything is wrong with it because you don't know how to draw or paint what you're drawing or paintingfind a reference of a similar pose and use it, find a reference of a demon tail and use it, etc
>>7698783
>>7700008
>>7700045>>7700047I'm trying to learn how to use an actual drawing tablet for the first(ish) time, I like starting from a small point and working outwards from a wide space. I'm not sure why, it's just a function of my autism. It helps me to have lots of open extra space because I like having empty room in a canvas for more ideas later. But when I zoom in, the brushes look worse. I'm still learning how everything works. Is there brushes that are good for being zoomed in or is there a setting or function that can help me with this?
>>7700022How long have you been drawing? You develop line confidence over time, so don't worry about it. Plus those lines aren't actually that bad at all.
>>7700059that lovecraft fella sure was a proto-chud. look at that deformed nose. i noticed while drawing myself. i like your style, very dreamy almost
>>7700027Larger canvas?
>>7700061I had the same problem of drawing too small, I still struggle with it, I think its a bad habit you need to force out of yourself instead of trying to work around it
Why does every permabeg hates references?
>>7700024did you search up the art fundamentals at all? if you don't have a specific inquiry i'd say you're better off reading a generic how to paint guide.>>7700061the pixel art brush is the only one that's gonna look the same unless you use a vector program
>>7700072I want to draw the specific pose from my imagination not some random reference that only kind of looks like the pose
>>7700079But you don't have the skill to draw it
>>7700077That's why you should have physical copies of your books! I will look the other way if you print them, because even that helps, but once you make it buy them to properly thank your masters!
>>7700079use 3d models or yourself
>ask for advice>get advice>only reply to the parts of the advice that you disagree withnever change permas
>>7700076I guess i should have been more specific, i was hoping for pose/anatomy advice, and how to make it look less flat, more like a painting
>>7700094the problem is that there's no idea behind it, so you can't really crit it, because it's not going anywhereIt's like asking if you're going the right way when you're spinning in circles, obviously not but how the fuck am i supposed to give you directions
Did it.
>>7700098what do you mean there's no idea behind it, its a devil girl pinup, shes going to be poking an angel cloud with her pitchfork. shes going to have clothes and hair and whatnot. there's lots of things you could critique like anatomy, or rendering skin or something
>>7699714What do you mean the head always comes out the sam way, even when you draw it from different angles?
>>7700107>shes going to be poking an angel cloudwhat the fuck is an "angel cloud"?? Her pose doesnt suggest she's poking anything either>shes going to have clothes and hair and whatnotThen where are they?>there's lots of things you could critique like anatomyDifferent things for different purposes, I would have never thought this was supposed to be a pinup if you didnt mention it because there's nothing titilating about it
>>7700094well there are no light/shadows, those are part of the visual understanding of form. the devil is being seen from an angle, but there are no noticeable vanishing points. as for the pose and anatomy, it depends on what you were going for, you don't need to copy it, a ref would be useful in at least giving you a clearer picture of what you it want to look like.i still think a generic look at fundies would be helpful, or some basic studies if you already know them.
>>7700106Beautiful, well done.>>7700094Adding shadows is generally the first step to making something look 3d. The tail is an extension of the spine so mind the sharp angle there.
>>7700111angel on a cloud* I assumed angels lying on clouds was a well known symbol, like devil girls holding pitchforks. also I didn't draw the tines of the pitch fork yet but shes holding a bar and there's writing that says poke poke. "where are they" im not finished yet I wanted the pose and anatomy to be correct first, because I know it is wrong, there is something wrong with the arms and back, I've done studies, i draw, im not a total beg, like i dont understand saying draw fundies over and over like an npc. "there's nothing titilating" its not really supposed to be porn, but her whole ass is out.
>>7700121so youre gonna draw angels on the cloud? How tall is this fucking image going to be? Start from scratch
>>7700124I was going to draw stab holes radiating light and the fluffy bottom of the cloud, and leave it implied that shes tormenting some angel up thereyou leave my vertical canvas alone
>>7700121>i'm not a begbruh. if you know the fundies use them. maybe post something further along next time. yes, the pose is awkward and there's no perspective. you're only gonna fix that by either already having the knowledge or pulling up a ref and actually checking what's up, nobody is gonna be able to tell you what lines to set down in what coordinates to fix it.
I will get better at drawingi will get better at drawingi will get better at drawing
>>7700121if you can’t recognize that you are a beg there’s nothing we can do for you
Drawing on keto is torture
>>7700129
>>7700133you shouldnt take drugs!
>>7700129I'm not too Beg for this shit!I'm not too Beg for this shit!I'm not too Beg for this shit!
his tit wants to escape>>7700018ahh well, no backgrounds needed when TIT>>7700027look for custom krita brushed, i also like drawing zoomed in as a loon and that helped somewhat>>7700039m̷̢̧̮͈̭̭͈̝̜͙̑͆ỷ̷̘͙̫̭̖͚͈̼̒̈́̚ ̷̦͙̆̑̋͝ ̶͚͔͖̙̳̞̤͂̾̔͆͘p̷̢͔̬͎̝͙͇̱͋̃̔͊͠r̵͖̥̹̱͉̐͂̒̐ẻ̴̼̈́̌͆̇͝ç̷̣̯͔̃̊̂̽̐̇̆͠͝ī̸͈̯͍̣̩̩̯o̶͕̳͎͍͙̝̾͗u̶̖̞̞͇̺̖̜̩͎͑̇͊̏͂́̈̄͒̒ș̵̜̹̦̫̱̻̹̈́͆̓͝>>7700106really nice
>>7698283bridge feet
>>7700137Pretty sure that means ketosis, anon.
>>7700159i know! on that note, as of recently, i've been getting incredibly hungry after a concentrated session. it wasnt as bad before. therefore i can feel with diet'ers having a rough time. i couldnt do it personally, my brain hungers for energy.
>>7700145Mogs my own Bridgman studies.>>7700156He cute tho.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7700141What's the lore behind the tit monkey, anon?
No cat yet. Finally got out of depressive slump to draw this. Thoughts? I can post ref if needed
>>7700179i love sad saggy titand wukongs
>>7700190Thanks monkey friend<3Do you think if genderbend Merchant tried to seduce genderbend Leon, who would put on the strap? :thinking:
>>7699847w-whats your opinion on hung shota?
>>7700139im too sexy for my shirttoo sexy for my shirttoo se-xy>>7700189nice but.. the composition leads you to look at a blank space? weird
>>7700193merchant no doubt, that body just screams topdont you think?but i think if you put leon in the right state he can be a power bottomnp friend x3
>>7699156>>7699884how about now
>>7700199fuck
>>7700199Who is this character?
>>7700206Isn't she Asuka?
>>7700206>>7700207its an original design from some artist, it got a figure.https://asahiwa.jp/f/original_x-10.html
ok so being that ive never done actual figure drawing, 3d shapes, etc... but tried creating a little character in a night type scene ill def have to revisit this, not that good...
lol
>>7700194I love em! They're the majority in my stories, though I honestly don't want to pick, I think certain scenarios work better with poorly developed ones, most of Otochichi sensei's for example
>>7699600https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6W7_Aa8JUMhttps://files.catbox.moe/9aemmo.png
>>7699882>muscleThat's weird, to my /beg/ eyes everything looks correct but it also looks like shit. Chat is this real?
tenten studies
More Half Hour Bridgman. Just the hands. The armless figure was another 10 minutes.>>7700226I Kneel
>>7700209God damn it... She got us good bros.The game's up sis, you can stop now. People here are in enough pain already, we don't need any extra mockering.
>>7700232???there are so many more skillful things here... I literally used the robe because i havent gotten to anatomy yet so i wouldnt be able to do a lightly clothed raven person
And they say rats aren't real
Delusions while cloud watching
>>7700209Boid with a knoife
>>7700236Not only rats are real, but also smart as hell. My cat was supposed to get them but the rats gave her dog food and now she's weird.
whoever drew today im proud of u
>>7700252Thanks anon
>>7700094The pose is kind of stiff but maybe something like this? If you're not using reference it might be easier to get some and start over if you have issues with the pose and anatomy.
>>7700189>>7700196Ohhhhh yeah I would love to see fem Leon power bottom on fem merchant’s strap-on ;) maybe I’ll draw it
>>7700141I like it
>>7700263
All the women in this general are weird.
>>7700269im not weird!!
Brain no work goodAlso I think I need to get something a little better than these dollar store 10 pack pens, I've gone through 2 of them since last night and they skip constantly
>>7700263You have mental retardation.
>>7700273That >< smile at upper right is my objective of life.Good job, anon.
>>7700235I can believe the quick progress. But the claim that you never look at nsfw but for some reason chose 4chan to learn to draw is starting to smell of bullshit.
>>7700275>underrailYou know what Anon? You're pretty based.You should draw the Rathound King some time.>tfw still haven't completed my first playthrough
>>7700269Sex with them
>>7700280so i received a tip to check out /p/ in the past for photography tips/ideas/etc & found they were very helpful. so i just assumed that here may be helpful too when it comes to other artsand desu, i do try and avoid the nsfw art in these threads
Today’s life drawings
>>7700288
>>7700271no exceptions
>>7700280>the claim that you never look at nsfwShe never said here that I remember.
>>7699207>>7700293
>>7700262can't make a horse drink manfor all we know he's going to reply to this cussing you out for trying to give you art to reference
Chipping away. I think my faces are getting better.
>>7700301fmgl
>>7700302the 10k yard flouride stare...
>>7700276My shitty scribbles aren't a worthy goal
does she looks stiff?
>>7700305kek. right, the teeth.>>7700303hot>>7700308very nice, anon.
>>7700309not at all but im beg so idk if my opinion can be trusted
>>7700309On first glance, no. But i can see why staring at this for a long time would lead you to believe it is. It doesn’t need to be less stiff unless you’re trying to go cartoonier. This is good enough. Not beg or low in btw. With more improvements to your already great rendering skills you’re well on your way to pro if you can replicate this quality faster and faster each time.
>>7700308Don't say that. I'm trying to get exactly that cute expressive faces you do for almost a year without any consistent success and you do it precisely as I wanted to.Just confirm me, are you doing these by imagination only or are you using refs?
As always, no one answered what to do with this crap >>7700008, I drew it for a long time, constantly erased and drew again, but in the end I got tired of it>>7700331Look at this shit, no one cares about it no matter how hard I try
>>7699207This >>7699202 is not true. The Safe for work mainstream normie market is an OCEAN and it will always be. While nsfw options on the other hand, are just isolated rivers and many times niche opportunities.Your style can have a huge appeal for mainstream (if you're birdstacy), you could do well, but "making a living" out of it, it's a whole different story, that depends more on the artist's business mindset. Look at Proko he doesn't make a living out of his art. Art is just a sub-product of another business. Either Marc Brunet, the guy made his own e-commerce platform, selling all kinds of stuff already sold in other places but, he's the one collecting payment on his platform. Others are art teachers, or have a career in art restoration, or interior design, or whatever other than making actual real "art".Then, other artists are just too mentally and artistically wired to do nsfw, and that's a curse rather than a blessing.The best advice any anon can get here, is to secure an income outside of the artistic path, so you don't end up ruin the one thing that gives you happiness. Having to do art you hate all day for other people, with a miserable pay on top of that, is one the most painful experiences a person can have. Cleaning floors will feel more healthy than bleeding your heart out on a drawing desk all day, hating your work. That's the catch, people want to pay for what THEY want. But if you create something that comes entirely from you and people love it, then that's a golden opportunity, but it won't last forever though... Your love for art will outlast people's love for it. So you need to prepare to protect what you love: "doing art for the heck of it". You need a job that pays for your artistic time. It is extremely rare to have it the other way around. Specially in these times when being an "artist of reference" seems to be an obsolete concept. Being a "famous artist" can't secure an steady income anymore.
>>7700334based anon
>>7700332>Look at this shit, no one cares about it no matter how hard I tryWhat do you mean quoting me, exactly?>>7700008>I erased and redrew the head I think your issue lies in there. If you're erasing the head, you won't really see what's wrong. Draw it softly with the pencil and go fix it in multiple interactions to better understand what's wrong. Or just repeat it a lot, but never erase the former attempt.In any case, the neck is too small or the skull is too big. You can start from there.
>>7700331Most of these scribbles are either imagination or refs that I loosely follow. I can't remember for that one. If you like expressive cutesy faces @abara on twitter is one of the artists I study.
I am seeing wips abandoned from earlier in the year and noticing that I am still permabeg or owrose is fucking me up.
Does anyone have a method or know a formula for drawing 3/4 faces from all angles? I feel like I can draw faces from the front decently, but the 3/4 ones look weird
>>7700372>>7700365>>7700364mogsme
>>7700372I eye my body kun to see if I messed up
>>7700372I'm trying to figure that out as well. Anime heads are notoriously subtle with how much the face position effects the look of the drawing. I don't think things like the Loomis method for traditional heads helps with the stylized heads but I could be wrong.
>>7700372there's no formula for it, you have to build an intuitive sense for a specific anime style by drawing it a lot.
>>7700372Aside from that, if you wanna get really technical, draw a cube and carve a perfect* face from it*it will depend on the specific character. I mean if you're autistic enough you create planes for all your characters. This shouldn't be an issue
>>7700372just memorize it
>>7700372i do it like this and for me 3/4 is far easier than the front view as i can actually use construction tools there
>Another year being permabeg garbage>While talented anons go from 0 to pro in monthsI am not feeling all that well.
>>7700387You can use construction for front view too, you just have to switch from 3pp/2pp to 1pp
>>7700388source
>>7700391it's much more difficult to eyeball depth when you are looking toward vanishing point, in 3/4 view it's kind of similar to isometry which you slightly adjust to follow vanishing points
>>7700063thank you. Yea I haven't noticed the nose either before drawing him ...
Eyes are fun to paintHow is it
>>7700106which software do you use?If Krita: which brushes do you use, especially for shadows?Values are the one thing I prefer in trad, can't get it right at all in digital
>>7700111not that anon, but I think if you need everything spelled out for you, maybe you shouldn't give crit.Unless this is an attempt to have him put more time into his pieces + background
>>7700226added some values, just for fun
STOP MOGGING ME I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>nobody replied to my drawingThat's it I'm derailing the thread again
>>7700444I hate when people does that. Go nuts bro
25 minutes better than last night's drawing? no...
>>7700269>All women are weird.fixed that for you, champ
theres been a lot of drawings posted. i wonder where this rejuvenated work spirit comes from. i'm proud of you, my nigs. and a little off-topic here, its amazing when ones dreams are so damn lucid it almost plays out like a movie, but that one situation you dreamed grabs you by the balls right when you wake up and you cant help by jot down the perfect outline for a little story. i essentially made C.H.U.D. a good movie in a matter of seconds. thank you for reading my blog.
and to not be completely off topic, here is a little strider doodle from last nights screening
>>7700199why dont you just prompt it, you're arleady tracing a 3d model and still don't know what you're doing
even logically, nodraw jeet, this doesnt make sense. prompts are full of mistakes, anatomically and artistically. and they all look.... generic. its the worst cheating tool there is. now back into your hole you little goblin. not even giving you a (you) for your pathetic derail attempt
>>7700475>prompts are full of mistakes, anatomically and artisticallyThis is how it goes>drawing made by hand is FULL of mistakes oh it's just his style it's not meant to be realistic it's fine!>ai generated image has one small blemish on itFUCKING UNWATCHABLE, looks like shit, ai exposed!This is why despite art "aficionados" always being able to find some "mistake" in ai art it still rakes in views from normies, it's because they aren't biased against it
take your meds my good dude, who cares what normie cattle think. they eat up the worst shit ever. we've just come out of a 15 year MCU garbagedump because of them and movies and shows still havent recovered.
>>7700479>who cares what normie cattle thinkYou ARE drawing for the normie cattle you moron, who do you think you're trying to impress? Billionaire are enthusiasts? No. You're trying to impress the everyday person on social media, sorry to deliver it to you like this but dont shoot the messanger
>the nodraw has only money and fame on his mindthe race of men is failing.
>>7700485>drawing is done only for twitter likes and never any other reason
>>7700488recognition is the main reason 99% of you are drawing, easy way to check is if you have any online presence at all, then you're doing it for recognition, there's nothing wrong with it, it's only wrong to deny it because its annoying >>7700487you do too, but you're in denial about it
>>7700489you should draw more instead of projecting your shallow philosophy onto the rest of us
>>7700491i draw more than most of you, i draw everyday for hours at a time
>>7700492pyw
>>7700412amazing
>but you're in denial about itnaw. i love films/tv and mango. most people that draw animu grills just happen to love animu grills. wu kang anon loves his monkey and china designs. twinkanon loves his faggots. they all draw for the passion foremostly. youre nothing but a cog in a jewish money machine, we are free and we love it. you should try it some time.
>>7700500>they all draw for the passion foremostlyif you locked them on a desert island they would stop drawing pretty quickly just so you know, even with all supplies for drawing they would kick it if they couldnt show it to anyone>they all draw for the passion There's nothing impassionate about wanting to connect with people, people who seek glory are usually the most passionate>youre nothing but a cog in a jewish money machineNothing to do with capitalism, it's a faucet of human nature which was and would be present in all types of societies
>>7700308excellent expressions as always niggy
>wanting an audience as an artist must mean you only draw porn and want twitter fameIf you genuinely believe this, maybe you never were an artist to begin with
the 4 building blocks of drawings, they can be used as guides for other building blocks or exist in and of themselves1. LinesLines connect things together, they can also be drawn arbitrarily if they reference some culturally established symbol (i.e a heart). Their simplicity makes them excellent guides for the most complex objects (i.e folding clothes, hair)2. Planes Planes are the second easiest to draw3. Hard formsThe most difficult to draw, they are multiple planes bound together4. Soft formsTheir form is not defined by their outer shape, rather it's how things are placed in relation to them (or on them) that they start to make sense in 3d space
>>7700503i filled my notebooks with schizo doodles i didn't show anyone as a kid. to this day i still doodle for fun and throw the paper away even if i have much less time and opportunity to do it. even if you're not denying that it is possible to enjoy drawing for the sake of it, at least don't act like you know what people are thinking because you're "just that smart".i don't have a problem with people doing it for the cash or fame, but when trolls and anons come here to whine about x having y followers or making money, that's a problem.
>>7700516>drawing>I doodledThere we go, thanks for agreeing with me
>he's not having fun with a pencilyou're doing it wrong!
>>7700521NO FUN ALLOWED
>>7698299How about a maoi? I will post one tomorrow but now I must sleep.
>>7700519i mean, if you mean making elaborate things, i made some comics and works i put a lot of effort into too, but i've never had too many trad materials. people online sure love their gotchas! can't have a discussion like a normal human.
>>7698640Use construction you fucking mong. Make him a stick figure so you get all the angles right, check the angles, then draw the details.
Feedback? Ideas to make her more interesting?
big dick is back in town
>>7700538Nice HammondIm so glad I stopped playing that heap of shit years ago though
>>7700537>Ideas to make her more interesting?a cape perhaps
>>7700537A little bland. Nowadays witch characters need a second gimmick to be interesting. Bunny witch, sea witch, etc.
>>7700465I agree, that's why I sleep right by my notebook: to write/draw the vestiges of my dreams before they vanish>>7700469Super cool, are the marks to his right (not the smoke) deliberate? They give the impression of a complete outdoors bg. You were able to suggest a whole scene so economically, gj anon
>>7700555>are the marks to his rightthats teh backside of an old drawing lol
>>7700475Nta but even published artists make anatomical mistakes all the time. Aside from obvious stuff like the number of fingers and such, I don't think it's a good criteria to determine if something was AI made or not
>>7700503>if you locked them on a desert island they would stop drawing pretty quickly just so you knowMm not at all anon, as that other anon said, I've never posted the vast majority of the stuff I've drawn, and the things I have posted were here as anonymous
>>7700348>If you like expressive cutesy faces @abara Thanks! He also have some good construction refs for body that feels cute too. >>7700488>>7700489I believe that the only at the "only for twitter likes" is the key there. There's no wrong in seeking recognition in general. People want it at job, and want it at art. However, there's also the internal satisfaction aspect of what you do. If you live of just being someone who seeks external validation, it turns out not healthy and harmful. >is the main reason 99%Depends. I think it's relative to mood and intent of a specific art. Currently, I'm happier letting my most recent drawing at my side while working. It brings me joy and motivates me to keep going. That said, I couldn't resist and bought a Brush Pen and a new Sketchbook too after what other anon said me. I'm just too curious to test those stuff that I'm not even drawing digitally for a while.
>>7700510I had 3 and 4 in the same mental category. Regardless, I agree it's useful to think of them as bulding blocks/elements of the next category. Sometimes you'll have a hard time picturing, say, a pyramid in a certain scenario, but imagining the planes its made up with is easier. The cune is the king though, absolutely everything fits and can be depicted inside it precisely
>>7700564*it's, cubeFfff
>>7700537Think about who your character is and what she needs, wants, likes and is important to her.maybe the hat and staff are worn but she cherishes them because they were a gift from her grandfather so while they show wear and tear they remain well kept and have a more unusual or interesting design than others. is she on the road, does it get cold at night maybe she has a scarf to keep her warm or a full cloak, also some type of satchel or small backpack. Does she need the book to cast spells like a codex of some sort, if it's really important that should have a place on her like a bookstrap that is easily and readily available, maybe it's impossible for most to cast spells in her world without an actual book, if so the book might be reinforced or have accessories on it itself to empathize its importance. Maybe she likes pretty clothes and while she does understand that her clothes need to be useful for traveling she can't resist to have some vanity details on them like a large bow with ribbons hanging off her skirt or puffed sleeves or whatever you can come up.
>>7700496Thanks
>>7700456That's way too much time, especially considering the style. Just draw a lot more, do an hour of timed gestures per day
roundhouse kick talented rats into the concrete
>>7700596well good luck with that. one can't just perform an impactful roundhouse kick by merely training for it, there are people who dedicate their life to martial arts for years and are never able to deliver, you need to have a certain degree of natural inclination or it will just not happen.
>>7700492and its probably garbage because you never pyw so you never receive feedback
>>7700603Kek
>>7700603i am one such person... i tried doing a roundhouse kick the last day and accidentally hit the wall. i just don't have talent i guess fml... meanwhile i see babies moving objects with their minds and teletransporting picoseconds after birth... might as well kms
Doodled this at work under duress and no refs.Just the usual trash. All proportions are wrong.
>>7700615MOGS ME
>>7700615soul
>>7700615I implore you, Urabefag, to at least draw another character that has two eyes on it. It's for your own good.
>>7700615why did you break her hand? poor girl
Is there a point in going for an 'abstract' stroll for a while? Is there something to learn from studying the Kandinskis, Kleins, Mirós, etc. out there if your main purpose is storytelling?
>>7700632to develop a sense of aesthetics, I suppose
The fuck is a master study as opposed to a normal study?
>>7700642It's when you play study at ranked!But seriously. Master study is when you study a master, literally. Therefore, another artist, and not only an individual subject.
>>7700334i don't doubt you but every time i see some on anon mention he's getting comms he makes nsfw. i've yet to see any sfw artist mention they get comms.
>>7700648i got an sfw commission recently (deerfag) the rest have been NSFW though but I did get an sfw commission as my most recent one
>>7700652wait nvm I've had one other sfw commission I forgot, it was something of.spamton and tenna as Steven universe characters I probably posted it
>>7700644thx
ok, so this is def something to revisit in the future when i have done anatomy, shading (esp metal), etcdef not great...
>>7700658sovl
Any tips on how to convey weight and height?
>>7700664draw references of people with weight and height
>>7700665I'm talking about bigger not-so-human things. Like the joints not being able to support the frame
>>7700615>20 years for this>No hands>No face>Fucked up proportions>Leotard makes no sensen>No soul>>7700620Tonee made it drawing only Mordred>>7700658>3rd ever drawingBIRDQUEEN I KNEEL
>>7700666draw references of not human things with height and weight
>>7700669Any recommendations about not human things with height and weight ?
how do i draw reflections in glass
>>7700666imagine the physics of it bro. how would it keep itself from falling? would it lean to one side? weight is physics. height can only be shown with perspective and comparisons eg. showing tiny buildings around a mech or drawing it seen from below
>>7700632no.I spoke to a pro concept artist once and he even recommended me to not bother (too much) with life drawing.Learn the skill you need, all else is procrastination. Unless your goals are a bit fuzzy and undetermined.
Again the locals don't help but insult others>>7700668, shitty and useless thread
>>7700683hes insulting himself you fucking retard
>>7700672>>7695183
>>7700679In all fairness, concept artists mostly photobash and now, use AI to develop concepts. Their job isn't illustration, it's cohesive idea generation. Anything other than learning how to do that efficiently is pointless for them.
>>7700675with a value much lighter than the surrounding valuecopy these
>>7700694the value here is lighter because its reflecting actual light sourcesIm curious, can you pyw?
>>7700694if you know reflective surfaces you know why these values are there. where it gets confusing is when you have multiple layers of glass
>>7700697>>7700431
>>7700689Thanks for the actual reply, heavy machinery with gigganigganium for the joints and supports, of course derp
any tips to getting used to screenless tablet faster, is it worth doing line exercises etc or "fun" ? pls helpeverything keeps coming out proportionately fucked
>>7700707make your drawing area on the screen ratio same as the tablet ratio
>>7700707simple line and ellipsis exercises can help, but just having fun sketching is the best way. just takes time to get used to it.and like >>7700709 said, turn this on if you haven't already
>>7700709>>7700712if I have an XP pen is it in the pen tablet app?
>>7700702don't get uppity at people trying to help you faggot
>>7700648I believe you're basing your "survey" on the niche interaction with people you can personally reach online in the circles you use. What I'm saying is that ALL of the content-creator user base of IG, DA, YT, FB, Tumblr, Twitter, etc, ALL of them are working in the sfw field. None of them can dare or risk to do porn and blow up their online scheme, but the point is, they don't need it.You can say, ALL of the pixiv artists do nsfw! But pixiv itself, is a niche social platform. Any random xerox machine doing a 2 minute tiktok video with a sequence of trendy drawings of whatever, will have their DM box exploded with requests 24/7. Of course I understand that going down that route will require for a level of exposure that maybe you want to avoid, but doing nsfw opens the same door. Once you start doing commissions you gave your personal information anyways to collect that money. If you're gonna open that door, make it worth it.
>>7700714Hey BRO thanks for the help BRAH we GMI KEWABOBYlmao Breh sure have you tried to open youre eyes bruh the HEAVYNENah, no thnks. Failure of a generation.
>>7700620he won't, he has severe autism
>>7700707Bro try using the pen on the tablet surface
>>7700686>>7700683No it isnt.>>7700717The CWC of our generation.
>>7700712>>7700709i think turning that on helped, thanks. I'll do some ellipses. the proportions are what's screwing with me rn as you can tell but I guess that's a learning curve
>>7700620You can find several other characters that are drawn just as bad.
>>7700720Damn.. keep practicing little bro that's awful
>>7700722I'll just say it's not my usual thing to draw, was just random scribbling to try to get my hand eye coordination in check
>>7700720Deersis? Where have you been? I havent seen obese deercock spammed every 5 mins for a while
>>7700723it shows
>>7700725I'm still kicking around just haven't been drawing as much because I've been fixating on other hobbies, also haven't drawn the deer in a bit really
Are there any tips for getting the hang of basic proportions beyond "keep practising"? Most advice I find just says to pick out basic shapes and just make them look right, but it feels like everything I do comes out wonky no matter how much I redraw it.
>>7700730perspective
Any good tools for custom poses? Manually searching poses sucks ass, and only some get some aspects of what I want, not enough for me to be able to simply modify it.
>>7700713Sounds like you got it, but for anyone else:XP-Pen calls it Proportion.Open the XP-Pen driver app (called PenTablet)Go to Work AreaGo to Pen TabletSelect ProportionWacom calls it Force ProportionsWacom > Wacom tablet propertiesLaunch Wacom Tablet PropertiesUnder the Mapping tab, enable Force Proportions Huion calls it Screen Ratio.Launch the HuionTablet appGo to Working Area On the bottom left there is a drop down. Switch the dropdown to Screen Ratio.Gaomon calls it Screen Ratio.Open the Gaomon driver appGo to WorkspaceSelect Screen Ratiohttps://docs.thesevenpens.com/drawtab/guides/customizing-your-experience/match-aspect-ratios-with-force-proportions
>>7700733https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-x_JwZAn7wstoryboarder's shot generator is used by indies and big studios
>>7700584I think you are correct. I spent half the time erasing and redrawing. Still, I think I am slowly getting faster over time..
>>7700739Looks sick, thanks
>>7700756mogs me
>>7700730Use your pencil as a straightedge to check what should align with what, take rough estimates of angles, and measure things. If you can, printing out the reference will make it easier when drawing traditionally but you can still do it with digital reference when drawing trad, it's just annoying.You'd probably benefit from doing some line control practice as well, the wobbliness of your lines isn't doing any favors for your accuracy especially on the long prism.
1h doodle. Free nipples or covered?
>>7700786considering you specialize in goon material I am guessing the first option
Everyone, Stop gooning please!
>>7700786>1h for this
>>7700797fuck off crab
>>7700796I must goon once a day to keep the loneliness at bay anon
>>7700801I’m not a crab you just suck and aren’t mature enough to handle criticism.
>>7700770Thanks for the advice.
>>7700797someone actually takes time and effort drawing? weird, when he couldve just done this >>7700615and then cry the whole rest of the thread about it
>>7700786I would like to see you try torpedo tits instead of fake looking orbs.Although I guess that the fake looking silicone its is on purpose since it seems that most of your girls are robots.If you dont want to free the nipples you could just draw very prominent nipple bulges like Ellen Joe's official artwork.
upper left is me trying and failing to make leafsi have alot of failures laying around bc unfortunately you cant erase ink stripesso if anyone wants to see those just lmk>>7700264im really happy :3>>7700263>>7700303BASED>>7700308I like thatspider thingi like chaotic scribbles>>7700469i like how this came out x3>>7700796god no>>7700771woman of my dreams x3
>>7700807taking time to do things is no critique lol. its not a race mongoloid
>>7700786>>7700797>>7700801>>7700811that's pretty bad for a 1 hour copy
>>7700810>My GOAT Nemojona proclaiming himself as the new king of /beg/ while shitting on the permabegschizosKeep drawing my KING.
>you must be the fastest sketcher in the west to have any chance of getting those sweet sweet twitter likes and instagram updoots you crave, because whether you are admit it or not you are only into drawing for fame and money because fame and money are the only things I care about!
>>7700815>>7700807blah blah blah crab crab crab
>>7700756
>>7700818FavelaGOD could and he has 12 times more followers than nemo and everyone else here combined.
>>7700815also read retard he said it's a doodle
>>7700821Make her head taller, it looks squished.
why did the comment about drawing speed trigger so many peoplehit too close to home?
>>7700825the thirdie that redraws slop and adds fotm anime foid faces? yikes. seriously can he actually draw?
>>7700828Any dummy can spend their entire life practicing something to be good at it, that's why the world values speed. Someone who can master or do something quicker than everyone else.-Monokuma, probably
>>7700828its not a critique dumbass, nor is it a negative. taking your sweet ass time makes you stand out. its why permas and nodraws like you fail in life, impatience, non-commitment, monkeybrained decision making
Lol are the crabs in the room with us now?
>>7700828Tbf for totally counterintuitive reasons a drawing that'd usually take you no more than 20 minutes in trad takes a lot longer in digital, not the first gesture, but the detailing phase. A paralysis by analysis by having more tools at your disposal? No idea, but that's just how it is for me at least
>>7700832>>>""impatient""How is someone who spends more time on a drawing considered impatient?Don't bother answering because we both know you'll make some bullshit up, but it'll be funny watching you try.
hackjob lineart
>>7700847you arent even patient enough to read right
>>7700827
>>7700850>he doesn't just draw conclusions about peoples posts based on reading one or two words and extrapolating based on how he feels about the words and their placement in the sentence.lol ngmilol
>>7700825>everyone else here combined.Never seen anyone here making good feet, if you want followers just draw feet
>>7700860favelamonkey can draw feet
>>7700431
>>7700865that's the point
>>7700865Does he still suck at faces though?
>>7700870Do you think foot freaks care about faces?
Ugly ass warm up cats
>>7700870>Permabegschizo or Nemo shitting on anyone else about faceslmao.
>>7700815What an odd thing to sayAnyway please post your work which you did in under an hour that mogs anon his doodle
>post a doodle and go to lunch just come back to this...stop giving (You)s to the nodraw squizo
onto the shapes section of proko!will do rooster next
Something i noted about permabeg thinking>you have to draw really fast>references are badI wonder why they don't get better lol
thoughts on doing studies on random files on wikimedia?
>>7700889theyre usually high res, right? the randomnesy gives you more versatility
>>7700888when did /ic/ forget you can't draw what you don't know? you don't need to straight up copy refs like some youtubers but they need to at least inform your thinking
still struggling with arms/neck/back region. I hope the pose of "banging on ceiling with broom" comes across
>>7700902Proko won
I WILL repost on the new thread
>>7700902You're very smart anon. Have a (You)
>>7700909
>>7700902>you can't draw what you don't know"You're right, and how do you learn to draw what you don't know how to draw? Mnnn?"
ok! roosters done!
>>7700914>and how do you learn to draw what you don't know how to drawTalent
>>7700888it's the arrogance + laziness combosprinkle a bit of autism on top and you're well on your way to permabegdom
>study material>use references almost all the time or at the very least as inspiration to work with what I have in my mind>take my time cause I am not on a payroll Damn I may not be ever truly good but at least I am not that kind of permabeg
>>7700927high paying professionals also use references all the time. its just some retard being stupid as always
>>7700899i like the eyes. shouldve made them red for effect, like that outdated meme we had some years ago
>>7700927>>7700940Also reminder, she literally talked about this whole drawing fast thing barely a year ago
>>7700941
to no one's surprise the permabeg has completely ignored the kind anon's edit and paintover
>>7700946>when he gets asked what the name of his cat is
MAKE A NEW FUCKING THREAD ALREADY
>>7700947if youre talking about >>7700262 yes I did forget to mention them, it was actually very helpful but I dont want to copy it exactly, and wanted it to be more of a mischievous gesture.
>>7700952>he says on a thread that will remain perfectly usable for at least 2 more days
>>7700943she smelly
>>7700946very cool
>>7700913this reminds me of shaman king
Ohh?Exclusively grinding le fundies doesn't work you say?
>>7700966Sovlmaxxers always win in the end.
>>7699051>>7698640I got inspired, recently I’ve dived into Marco Bucci’s head series. And I really like this oneee!
>>7700966pawell...
End of work day gestures. All 60 seconds except the top two.Top left most is like 3 mins, the one to the right of it a full fuckin 10 mins.
>>7700986I like the finished ones, but for the others it seems to me you're trying to construct them rather than capturing the action. Whatever your approach to gesture is, construction comes later
Tried something new, a mural from a very significant panel in a certain manga. It's probably the largest drawing I've ever done, had to put my hand as far as the distance allowed! Translating the hatching from the original puzzles me still, because whatever I do with the pencil comes out too thin. Only the elite among you will know what panel this is btw...On an unrelated note, what's the image limit in /ic/ nowadays?
>>7700952>>77009572 MORE WEEKS
>>7700966>>7700927>>7700888>>7700615Does this mean that permabegschizo is FUCKED?20 years with no improvement is brutal.Just look at this shit >>7700615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru-INQANBb0
>>7700975>>7699051the reference image isnt really good to begin with, its a slightly lower res crop from a mid cowboyshot and it obscures patmans face, making his likeness appear slightly different. a lot of "artists" use this promo shot for some reason while there is better stuff to pick in the movie
>>7701023had to split it for the filesize
>>7701005this joe looks really cool. i still have that on my backlog, maybe i should attack it (heh) this weekend. good job anon. i guess the limit is 300?
why are most anime artists incapable of creating an aesthetically pleasing face
a little frog simple shape project
>>7701029define aesthetically pleasing
>>7701034i should correct myself to western anime, it seems effortless for easterners, but most of the anime faces made by westerners don't compare
>>7701029facts (anime art is supremely popular, which is /ic/'s standard of quality)
>>7701037people praise the shittiest anime art here even if it's aggressively mediocre
>>7701033frogs and lizards are really fun to do. if you need references, there is some good images on /an/ and its archives if you actively look for them
>>7701044>praise>mediocrepick one.to be fair i do get you, even if they get praise, they're hardly on the level of actual 300 million masterpieces like this, so i suppose they're a still mediocre in a way.
>>7701047tnx!! i feel like for rn i dont need anything crazy cause im on the shapes section of proko, the project im on right now is an attempt to simplify them down to like 9 shapes
>>7701047reptiles and amphibians
I drew a few heads, I need to be more attentive to the composition
>>7701053these dont look too bad. these are from statues i reckon? the bigger one on the right turned out somewhat neat
>>7701055Yes, I drew statues, I needed to somehow compose the entire structure of the head and convey it correctly
>>7701057all you need is to do it for a while till it clicks and is ingrained. just keep at it
>>7701053>Russianschizo making it out of the permabegpit.Will permabegschizo also make it out or remain THE KING OF THE PIT?
>>7701071no
what other hobbies commonly have people considering suicide and having mental breakdowns over the fact they're not instantly good at them, before they actually get experience and drop the drama like nothing happened?
>>7701079Painting miniatures, speaking from experienceSomehow not as much as with drawing for whatever dang ol reason
>>7701079/fit/
>>7701079/fit/ and reading :3and playing gaem
>>7701086vidya would only make you suicidal if you consider playing anything new and online. i have a stack of roms packed away on multiple drives that will last me for eternity while i draw and i hardly even play anymore after drawing more. its just not as fulfilling as it used to be.
>>7701088fuck it seems i cant read correctly/fit/ still fits>anything new and online.those combined arethe seventh circle of hellbut any competitive sport is also a great contender
Reality is that I'm so lonely that if I would draw pretty anime girls I'd just get mad depressed so instead I just draw abominations for the Hell of it
>>7701097I understand you, I don't really enjoy watching anime and fapping...
>>7700998Yeah I'm trying to ignore the form, but I can't seem to envision the flow of the body. I'm not sure how to do gestures "properly" I guess; I've watched videos and read portions of books on it and I understand it conceptually, I'm just not sure how to practically apply it.
i got fed up with hands, so i did another thomas to try and put me moneh where my big fat mouth is (>>7701023) and i think i got close enough
>>7701026Thanks mate, and yeah, you totally should!
>>7701079Jesus christ, /fit/ too, gardening, playing the piano, the flute and the guitar, mmm, and also being a prebeg in sculpting; I want to make life size sculptures of my ocs to put inside fountains in the small 'plazas' at the crossroads between the trees in my farm
ok final shape project for tonightthis one it was hard to think of other variations since the bird i used as reference is so simple & round
>>7701132spread wings birds mightve worked better for exercise purposes, but i still like these in an abstract kinda way. the top middle square one is neat
>>7701137tnx, yea the proko project is about simplifying the animal into a limited amount of shapes. but this one may have already been a bit too simple
>>7701116Great job anon, 100% likeness achieved, I like how convincingly you solved the problem of the beard with an impressionist approach (this would've been a nightmare for me and I'd either have ruined the portrait or choose to leave him beardless, lol), and it seems you were able to plan succesfully and scale the drawing to precisely fit the width of the page. You could be making mad dosh irl drawing portraits of people and families, you know 6b-kun :), people pay a lot for trad portraits these days
>>77007862h
>>7701174looking forward to hour 3
>>7701164>people pay a lot for trad portraits these daysi've seen some insane price ranges, especially as soon as youre established and somewhat sure. but i really like doing it, especially if i like a person/movie and whatnot or the image looks cool, drawing boring people from shitty photos could prove bothersome lol. i was also very warmed up today from 4 pages of hands.
>>7701174so you covered them up, huh? could we have some pokies at least? best of both worlds, as they say
>>7701131>>7701131Lol, I misread too how embarrasing! I assumed from the replies people were listing their other hobbies...
>>7701174the arms (especially her right) look off
>>7701023my fat ass only now realises this dude is robert pattinsonhe looked too handsome to pass up>>7701116this looks really great>>7701191same XDD
>>7701195monkeman doing stylized portraits. thats pretty awesome. right when i shoo'd you away from the studies thread. thomas, in the movie is troubled, angry, lonesome and thats why he has that stern look. if you ever get a chance, its a pretty cool film, one of the best of the last decade and lots of cool imagery for us doodlers to rip off from
Road to 1000 lets get it
>>7701208Easy piecy
>>7701195This is pretty nice as well monke chan, charmingly stylized with a frugality of strokes, I'm getting the impression this style would look really good being animated
>>7701189didn’t feel like it rn.>>7701194hard for me to see it right now, but I might tomorrow when I:>whip out a 3D mannequin>do an img2img gen>ask my mom to pose for meFeel free to redline in the meantime
>>7701218>>ask my mom to pose for medo you reallynaked? i can't imagine it'd help that piece if you don't mean naked
>>7701203> thomas, in the movie is troubled, angry, lonesome and thats why he has that stern look. my kind of movie x3> thats pretty awesome. right when i shoo'd you away from the studies thread.hihihhi thanskies :3thought i give it ashot, > lots of cool imagery for us doodlers to rip off fromwhats the general opinion of the movie ''300'' here since it has quite a dramatic flair thats pretty good for multiple practice stuff,see pic related>>7701213:DDD thanks > I'm getting the impression this style would look really good being animatedi didnt even think of that :o
>>7701212>to checkB-but if you're not tracing I won't be able to call you a cheater anymore....
>>7701222>whats the general opinion of the movie ''300'' here since it has quite a dramatic flair thats pretty good for multiple practice stuff,>see pic relatedoh yeah, that movie is very stylish, especially for a zack snyder action movie. i dont think he ever has done something close to that after 300 except watchmen, but that was received mixed, by fans at least (i like it)
>>7701208we're not gonna make it bros
>>7701111Just choose an approach and stick to it, some people swear by Proko/Watt's CSI but I prefer the one in the Famous Artists Course, it's intuitive, easy to follow and modify as you go along, and (most importantly for me) it doesn't force the models into a procrustean set of lines which might not necessarily describe their movement
>>7700786>>7701174good work.
>>7701174That's bad for 2h loooooool i bet you take like 24 hours to finish it ;)
>>7701269Close. More like 15–20 hrs, depending on how much I want to polish. Pic related took me 19 hours. I don’t know if that’s too much, and at this point I’m afraid to ask.
>>7701271looks great. its better to get it right than rushing it
>>770120850 ish more......>>7701226its i think, the only movie that i have seen that has that particular stylei really wish it was more often,
>>7701271Not that much if you have a life
>gaming drunk>become a pro>drawing drunk>become a permabeg
>switch from big brush to tiny brush>sketches instantly start coming out betterNo... was it really that easy... wtf
>>7701280I find this difficult to believe, playing what? Turn strategy games maybe, but alcohol screws your reaction time, which is pretty much vital for success in virtually every other genre. For drawing, otoh, it might actually suggest other oath and ideas you normally would be too lucid to recognize and/or too afraid to implement.
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>>7701289league of legends, i got a pentakill
>>7701223i tried the cyberpunk game finally i kissed a dude in it.also i curently reselmbe one of ur castrated boy doodles at this time currently due to surggicalk issue lol gonna just lay down for now ok ow ow pw ow ow ow ow ow ow ow och ouc ugh daddy etc
>>7700957I don't think I've ever seen a /beg/ thread reach 1,000 replies.Did OP get shot?
I don’t want to waste my time trying when there no point. When is is safe to conclude you have no talent
