Previous Thread: >>7655470If you are a beginner or intermediate in art, please use the /beg/ & /int/ general.>>>/ic/begPost your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 2000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video
>>7705823ai?
>>7705857No but that makes me curious, what about it seems AI?
>>7705860I don't know, it looks realistic and clean, that color palette reminds me of something I've seen before.
>>7705860It doesn't look anything like AI, he's an idiot.It is kinda boring though. Feels pointless and unfocused like a lot of AI images. I don't really feel much of an intention here.
>>7705884I'd disagree. One of the more artistic and interesting images. I could imagine this one in oil, hanging in a gallery
>>7705823>>7705857Jesus I guess this is part of posting early.It doesn't look AI at all, and your colors are very nice.
>>7705770Yay my bird made it
where can i learn the fundamentals of how to draw sculptures like >>7680563i am bad but i try
>>7705860Just for the record, I've never seen ai art remotely similar to this style, it looks like a study done by a human artist
I stuck this in /beg/ but they aren't interested (read:able) to give advice.what's a good way of making this face less flat without overstyling it? I think I could've thrown some highlights on the right side of his head, but what else could help with that? Shadows on the temples?
>>7705860>No but that makes me curious, what about it seems AI?It's the colors, the cliche blue and orange is used a lot in AI because how well it makes everything look. That and it's a well constructed painting with a realistic style. Congrats.
Started practicing painting. This is hard.
>>7707111no way you are doing colors in trad my nigga?
>>7707116I did digital
>>7707121All? Cause your lines are looking cleaner than ever
>>7707111Perhaps you should practice basic anatomy first.
>>7707127Other than the hand sizes, looks fine. Unless you're talking about the torso drawing above.
>>7707125Yep. Well it took me two days to finish >>7707127Nah Anatomy is overrated
>>7705857Not the anon you're replying to but people like you are worse than AI jeets. It genuinely killed my motivation to share any art online when every time without fail some art illiterate pregbeg retard would ask if it was made by AI as if they've discovered a huge ploy that no one else is seeing. You really are worse than the filthiest ganges river AI indian.
>>7705910it looks generic. not bad just boring. if you get accused of ai there is an underlying issue you need to adress
>>7707080merc wip?
>>7707238It's your problem as an artist to create something new, you should know how to impress people, how to create a masterpiece. It's your fault if you draw worse than ai, or your art is boring as ai
Currenty drawing
>>7707368I love how if you draw girl in void everyone jerks off over it, but if you draw guy in void everyone thinks it's boring as fuck.
>>7707539It'd be a more interesting drawing if he had a huge cock :)
>>7707452Why is she allowed to walk around with a gun on the job?
>>7707553America?Good question. It's based off this image I saw
self portrait doodle
>>7707452>>7707720You like the bossgirl type didnt you?
>>7707735*Dont you
>>7707641pls be my gf
>>7707735>>7707737I like women who are strong enough to take on other women, but not strong enough to beat up men.
>>7707775not until u drop a self portrait then we can get married
Self-portrait (does tracing allowed?? )Combined my old photo (body part) and my newest photo (head part) Legs/shoes part trace from Pinterest photo
>>7705860Nothing. That anon is retarded lol. And I am pretty good at spotting AI.
>>7707641pls be european
>>7708201it's a tranny, most likely
>>7708131Why would you post a picture of yourself?>>7707539Drawings of men usually get less attention, but the guy being ugly doesn't really help.
Oh.. sorry was that not allowed? I put there just for reference Is there way i can delete my comment?
>>7708270You need a gold account to delete comments on 4chan
>>7708270One does not simply post their photos on a Bangladeshi fishing forumPlease let this be a troll o algo
>>7708131based beyond belief
I want some incentive to do more digital art more frequently so I can improve, and was thinking of telling my group chat that they can send me requests. However I am embarrassed at the thought of sharing my low effort amateur art. Should I go ahead and ask for requests anyway?
Animalito
>>7709941Oops
I can't emulate furDo I need to manually place white lines to make peach fuzz tier fur?
>>7709987Image for reference
>>7709987Update
woah nice to see my ork on the thread pic! here's a commission i'm currently working on
>>7705823it's great BUT feels a little... muddy? Lacks "punch"
Studies
>>7711045How would you add "punch" to it?
>>7711593It comes off as very purposeless. I get no indication of who this generic white woman is, what is the context, why is this important. Is she sitting by a fire? Why is the light so yellow? How did she find herself in this gaping blue void? Are we stuck in bluespace too? Where did her clothes go? You can ask all these questions, but it doesn't feel like you're meant to. But if you don't, you're not left with a whole lot.It just doesn't really make sense beyond the concept of 'picture of woman'. And it does that well I guess, but the concept itself is pretty boring. And it's uncanny if you try to delve into it further. It feels random.Like, this one: >>7707001This works better. It's clearly a pinup, the outfit and pose has a good amount of visual interest. I get a better sense that there were some wheels turning in the head of the artist and there was a goal being worked toward here. (Ignoring that this is probably a study, let's pretend you came up with the whole concept if it is)
>>7707080I like it. I think the rendering is great and I love that you used ingame physique/anatomy. Had a little chuckle when I realized.Dunmer best Mer.Blog?>>7707386Bitchin
Hands be the bane of me existence
stuck in low effort 3/4 bust hell award
Can you tell me what you think?
>>7712636No. These threads are more for silent judging.
What works about the designs, what doesn't? How would you adjust it?
Any comments?
>>7712929I like her, I can kind of read what she does by the outfits so thats good, apart for minor things, she looks like she is tucking her chin a bit too much, also the neck is brigther than her face, should be the other way around if you ask me>>7712621throw some darker shadows in there>>7714520her arm doesn't read well, maybe try a different poseany comments? I feel like there is something wrong with her face but I can't put a finger on it
>>7711593don't listen to >>7711611he will steer you towards drawing curvy ass, big boob lewd slop. Do what you do and improve where you feel like you want to improve.
>>7715161You don't have to go toward pinups if you don't want, but your art does need a defined purpose. Drawing random shit you don't care about will always look uncanny and unappealing.
>>7715167no it doesn't. You can achieve depth without adding layers of context, story and narrative, especially in portrait. Personally im of the opinion that defining "purpose" worsens the outcome and results in the work being forced and unauthentic.
>>7705823trace or reference?
>>7715182This is terrible advice, lol
>>7715206that's not an advice. My advice to poster of that woman face would be to start from scratch and not just redrawing someone elses studies.
>>7705823very nice, looks like a checkout girl
>>7705860https://x.com/okdzns/status/1366873261619863552
>>7715220Oh snap.
>>7715212I don't disagree with that. But that is also supporting my point that you should be drawing things you actually care about, not things you just think look cool or artsy.>>7715220Also, almost certainly not AI, look at the date. AI in 2021 was still complete dogshit.
>>7715220they just used the same photo ref. there are dozens of similar artworks based on the same ref if you reverse image search it.
>>7714946I understand the arm readabilityIdk what could be wrong with the face though
>>7715288Readability issue*
I traced the bat because I couldn't understand how its subtle curves went, am I ngmi?
>>7705770Drawing I did on a napkin
finally a fitting thread
>>7705770Not sure if this is a proper thread but is related to me getting back into drawing which even drawing traditionally requires me to use software to get it looking decent on a computer.Is there a way to use clip studio paint offline? I have the latest version but I want to turn my computer offline for a while so I get less distracted. I wish I knew that before purchasing it but I just assumed perpetual license meant actually owning it.(Related to the image but any tips on practicing symmetry would also be appreciated)
>>7716074I discovered that apparently the original version (1.0) is permanently offline while the other updates aren't. So thankfully me being a cheapskate paid off.
>>7716622This is insane, amazing work anon!
I have always been really bad at digital painting, and I would really like some critique.
>>7717880based negress
>>7717880Actually hard to find something to critique, it's really well made mate
r8
>>7717880You got socials?
>>7717889She's actually Taiwanese.>>7717966Not sure I agree, but thank you!>>7718079Nothing I'm active on. I have a webcomic, which these characters are from, that's on hiatus right now, but I want to get back to it soon. https://farstarss.the-comic.org/
Been staring at this for a while now, gotten utterly blind to it.How's the anatomy here? Any big issues with it?
>>7718249nice!
>>7718716Major frog toes.
>>7717880fix the perspective on the bottom of the glass and the vending machine slots it's an easy fix and very jarring as it is
>>7718721That's the one thing that's on purpose, aquatic vibes.
>>7718017Looks pretty good as someone who was just doing forearm anatomy studies myself. All the muscle groups look to be in the right spots with the right contours. My only nitpicks are that the perspective of the wrist ellipse doesn't look right to me, and that I would probably mark the styloid process of the ulna, since that's an important landmark that would be visible here even in a stylized drawing.
if i do inktober this year it will be these little ghostys
Hnng I don't want this to get shadowbanndhttps://x.com/VTCric/status/1964855843654082690?t=9fl5JbunzH0Tiy6ujyFw9Q&s=19
First thing I've drawn all summer. Been exploring other creative endeavors. Will render this later.
am I good enough to post here?
>>7717880Very static poses and stiff composition, otherwise looks sovlfvll
I tried rendering complex clothes for the first time, but it feels flat. Any tips?
new to chan. been at it since covid, trying different mediums and style, settled on graphite. i love graphite.
my bad, thought I could post multiple
>>7720584yes of course. Love how dynamic it is.That's the mermaid from blue sub no.6, right?Is the anime any good? I never watched past episode 2
>>7705884>>7711611You're the kind of guy that would deepthroat a basic anime artist because they drew the most plain looking character sitting on a chair (that's storytelling for you).
>>7722303I also never watched it(only a few clips on youtube), I drew it for a commission. But the fish is cute.
Eternal Beg here,How do I add more values and make the colored things look real?I mean, they look fine under flat lighting, but when I try to give them some volume or make them look more realistic, they just end up looking flat and muddy.I’ve read a few painting guides and learned some things about color and values, but I still can’t figure it out.How do I add more volume without making it look off?
>>7722674Try using more vivid colors, more highlights, different textures, folds, ambient lighting. You're pretty good, but you need to work more on the color theory part. >IchigangBased LAD enjoyer.
>>7722674Whoa sorry about the sprite post, I thought I was in /beg/
Mfw I drink water
>>7723025Stop using a white background
>>7723144It's not mine.
>>7723199Meant to respond to the other guy.But regardless to all, stop coloring on a white background, throw a solid color on there or paint over a photo. It shouldn't be surprising if lighting and color is difficult if you paint everything in an environment that deletes all the shadow and color.
>>7718716Adjustments and variants. How well do the designs work?
hopelessly pwned by the process of rendering
>>7705770any tips on improving construction skills?
>>7723944adding that i want to be able draw decently from imagination. as is, most my drawings look bad unless i have references. i don't want to have to get a bunch of references for every idea i want to draw
>>7723944Read the OP please>>7705770
i hope this is an alright place to ask but what exactly is wrong with the anatomy in this picture? the butt and thigh areas look really off but why do they look weird?
Lordosis.
>>7724093Is her left leg going foward? Maybe the left buttcheck should look different than the right one? >>7722155Check your values
>>7724152>Is her left leg going foward? Maybe the left buttcheck should look different than the right one?i'm not sure. it's not mine btw. i saw it and thought it looked cool but also very odd anatomically.
>>7720774>>7720778Kino
>>7724093Put boxes around the ribcage and pelvis and you'll see that they break perspective. Did you eyeball this?
I don't understand why /ic/ has so much talent yet so little ambition. Why aren't you guys putting your figures inside environments? Where is the storytelling? What is the actual purpose of all this technical skill?
>>7724183goon is the mind killer
>>7724183I draw out of spite, that's all.
>>7724183I'm 90% only interested in design
hi /ic/ what do you think abot my comic (adventures of potatoman and egg) this week: potatoman and egg meet the mummy like and subscribe
>>7723632Updated
>>7724397#1 In The Hood, G
>>7722259It looks great, but getting covid makes you a faggot, so...it looks terrible
>>7725327thanks broder.
>>7724183>doesn't understand why people use their skills in the ways they want instead of the ways some random nodraw retard wants.
Here is a collage of some of my more recent sketches. How do I make my art look less autistic? To elaborate: you know how Chris Chan, no matter how old he gets, his art always looks like an amateurs, like it was drawn by a kid? I feel that my art has hardly matured since i started drawing. It feels....autistic, so to speak. I mean, I am autistic, it's true but I don't want my art to look like that. Am I delusional? If not, can somebody HELP ME???
>>7725782they look flat. learn more construction (drawing using 3d shapes), learn more about lighting to make it look more natural, learn more about proportions (the faces in particular are unpleasant looking).
what do you think guysI am trying to appealmaxx
>>7725952learn to draw faces
>>7724183is this good enough
>>7725952The face is good enough, try more lively expressions. Ive seen dogshit drawings but theyre popular bcuz of good expressions.
>>7725953>erm learn to draw :^)bravo retard, learn art theory>>7725952Eyes are wonky and outta perspective, flip canvas regularly during sketch phase until you get a hang of nailing it first try. Lefthand shoulder also looks a little disjointed, apex of the shoulder ought to be a little closer to the neck.Soften up the shadows on rounded surfaces and maintain sharpness on cast shadows and sharper edges to really sell the forms.Vary the saturation and value between near/far shadows, and deepen the occlusion, shaded areas look a little flat otherwise.Thing she's holding doesn't look like it's catching the same light as the rest of the piece, lighten/warm the facing surface.Otherwise nice work, composition, and colour choice are great. mid/int/ tier
>>7724093Can't believe no one gave you the real answer, it's the angle of her hips. The leg that's supporting her weight should push her hips up, and the leg she's moving forward should draw her hips down. But here it's the inverse.>>7725762>>7726232I absolutely love these.
>>7726232I like your backgrounds a lot.
>>7705823100% ai slop
>>7727259it doesn't look ai at all
>>7718249I love how you draw.
There's something off about the rendering I'm not 100% sure about. Maybe too much softness? Additionally any feedback on how to improve the design would be welcome.
>>7727318ty
Flats are inI'm not feeling too great about this piece
>>7727484Fuck fourchan
Just started learning shading fundies. If cast shadows are meant to blend in with form shadows, why do they not blend in with the form shadows on the stairs on the right? Are they not true form shadows because they aren't dark enough? Feels like that's probably the super obvious answer but I'm caught in an overthinking loop
>>7727812Que? There are no form shadows on the stairs on the right
>>7727843I thought maybe the plane of the stairs facing towards the viewer counted as being "form shadows" of sorts because they've darkened from turning away from the light slightly but I guess that's not true shadow so much as just a slight loss of light. idk i know im being retarded I think I'm just losing my mind from studying this nonstop
>>7727931Yeah, that's just a reflection difference. The darkening has little to do with lighting being blocked. The same amount of light is just scattered over a larger surface area (plus some other minor stuff like fresnel reflections bouncing light away.Form shadows are when an object blocks light from itselfCast shadows are when something else blocks the lightThey're both made up abstract terms and don't really have any basis in reality. They're just places where an appreciable amount of light can't reach.
>>7727259It's good to dunk on ai shit but at least learn to recognize when it's actually ai. Takes a few seconds of looking at brush strokes while zoomed in to see what's up
>can't draw for a few days>start getting antsyI think I'll do double-duty of drawing for fun and doing studies for a few days, I've got a stronger drawing itch than usual
>>7720125Hi.I run a monthly thread on /lit/ where we write stories based on a work of art posted on /ic/.I’ve been trolling the /ic/ catalog & its offsite archive for a bunch of hours now, on the search for our challenge’s next inspiration, and (I hope this doesn’t freak you out, but) I’m fairly confident you are the artist behind these two amazing pieces:https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7439223#p7465710https://warosu.org/ic/thread/4468678#p4469644With your permission, can I use either one for our thread this Friday?This was last month’s challenge:https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24640140^(Crazy ride; perfect landing.)Additionally, if you would like to be 1 of the 3 judges for the challenge, the offer is yours.All this entails is reading the /lit/ thread (which I’ll post here), then picking your (at least) top 5 stories by Monday, when the challenge ends.Whether yes or no, thank you for creating such wonderful images!
If you could do one thing to improve the rendering here, what would you do?
>>7728031Very cool.
>>7727996Thank you anon, very helpful. Will keep this in mind going forward.
Then and now
>>7728514You've just ruined my day, thanks.
>>7728514awktuhgahn mmd reference??O.o
>>7728561Think about it: now it can only get better
>>7728434Take a fuzzy transparent brush and smooth out some of the hard edges in the blending
>>7728434Your form is all over the place so the rendering doesn't really make any sense. I get the impression you're just copying from your reference, but whatever is going on with the pants just isn't working. I'd really recommend doing a couple good drapery studies.Also, you're completely missing cast shadows.
>>7730054Captivating
Any good tutorials on cross contour/learning to see forms in 3d? All I've seen so far is vague advice or general rules about what lines indicate what type of edges.
Do you think it's bad practice to use very minor assistance from ai when learning to draw? I piped my figure through controlnet, and look which parts machine made more better and try to copy and remember.
>>7730054One of your betters
>>7730456No rules, only tools
>>7730456it would be similar to anons redlining for you. but ai is more likely to make anatomy mistakes. so use ai for corrections but also try to see if anything looks off afterwards and adjust your drawing further.
>>7730456Nah dude that's what a lot of people do.And once you get better at learning AI it makes drawing so much easier. I'm not even joking when I say I spend less time on my sketches, and much more time running them through AI programs.It's the future, and anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to gatekeep art.It's no different than using the paint bucket fill tool
So is there anything I can improve upon before actually shading this?
>>7730456no rools only tools (only if you're already good).If you are a beginner using any form of shortcut dooms you to NGMI status.
>>7715616I forgive you
Am I good enough to be on this thread?
Hermanetas
>>7730456If you know how to spot all the mistakes AI makes it could help. But if you had the skills to do this in the first place, you wouldn't need the AI to correct your stuff. You can learn even more from master studies from artists you like. I see begs copying the weird artifacts AI makes pretty often, this would lead to a lot of bad habits. Lots of them can't even tell that their ref is AI. It will be hard to stand out if everyone trains on the same generic AI slop.
>>7730769I think the biggest issue is that AI output is just that it's really really boring. Taste is a thing you have to consciously train, and it really does take a lot of work to do so. But if all you practice is AI slop, all you're going to be able to think of is AI slop, which at that point, just generate it.
>>7730814
>>7730828
>>7728364Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I've been very busy this week. I know it's late, but if you're still interested in using either of those pieces for your thread, go for it!I don't t think I have the time to help judge the thread but I'm interested in seeing what you guys come up with!
>>7730814>>7730828very nice
>>7730907>Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I've been very busy this week.No need to apologize, and very relatable.>I know it's late, but if you're still interested in using either of those pieces for your thread, go for it!Not late at all! And thank you so much!!>I don't t think I have the time to help judge the thread but I'm interested in seeing what you guys come up with!If you change your mind at any point during the weekend, the judgeship’s yours.Like I said, the OP will be linked here in about 8 hours when it starts—hope we’ll do you justice!
>>7730907Okay, here it is >>>/lit/24735127 (I go by “ineptia” on /lit/).
Well the chin was fucked up and fixing that meant the head was too small so I had to resize. How is it now?
>>7731575looks good
