If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious: >>7706568
>>7709517Aww yeah, first post. How does this look? I already know the hands need work and the feet are big.
>>7709532why is she staring at me like that
>>7709533Dumb question, but who do you study/what inspired you the most? Your doodles are really cute.
>>7709413Maybe. I’ll think about it. I keep my contacts very small but maybe i’ll give my twitter or something. In other news, while you guys were busy eating each other out, I found my cat. She hasn’t been caught yet, but she’s alive after 9 days.Because of this I won’t be drawing for a while.
>>7709540A lot of Yoshinari studies plus anything even vaguely interesting that comes across my feed on twitter or pinterest
>>7709550Fair enough. Thanks for the reply. :)
:O
>>7709546yay I'm so happy she's still alive!!
How am I looking bros?>>7709561Very cute.The little one looks so fucking tired.
>>7709550Good hand
>>7709517this is really funny thank you for the laugh
>>7709521Nice work. The arm anatomy is muddled. I would drill Bridgman and Loomis until you've got the major muscles down. I still struggle with arms as well; they're annoying little bastards.
>>7709517
114th cringe15 min (timed)
>>7709601shit I forgot to downsize before postingoh well...
>>7709601why are you doing this to yourself
>>7709601mogs me
>>7709604the only advice I've been given is>you should be fasterso I am trying to improve
>>7709607At your stage accuracy trumps speed. Are your drawings from refs or imagination? If refs, what types of refs? I see the same robotic facial expressions across all of your drawings so I'm guessing you aren't studying other artists.
>>7709607Do lots of sketches and gesture if you want to get faster
>>7709610I typed out a longer post but something happened to it... it's a mix of photo and game screenshots for reference, sometimes from imagination. What would you recommend to improve faster/better?
>>7709598oh god please no don't put that on my face
>>7709546I thought about it and wait a second. You are the same guy who made a character attack on me by saying i’m a bad artist for making a headcanon about black vader so i’m feeling a little salty at the moment. I’ll reconsider when im not stressed about my cat.
>>7709620guild wars?
>>7709635yes that is from guild wars
i finished my 30 day clothed figure gesture studies
>>7709640pro
When is it my turn to get better?
>>7709517LMAO 10/10 image well done OP
>>7709521>the feet are big.theyre not
>>7709598Whats your problem.
>>7709517my dumb little ayy lmao doodle grew up so fast :)
i fucked up the hands. what else is off?
>>7709601OK now spend 115 min on one.
The guy on the video course said to do still lifes of vegetables and man yeah these mouses are much more difficult
>>7709722>vegetables>mousesyou got two things wrong here. MICE are not vegetables.
>>7709712I tried turd polishing too. It was fun to make a "complete" piece but I don't think it's a time efficient way to improve and the feedback I got from the effort wasn't positive.
is the girls form okay, shes supposed to hold a sword with her arm swung behind her>>7709700i think its the eyelids being a tad too high?or the eyes too low, >>7709517gorgeous OP>>7709561ahwwww>>7709566something about the mouth or eyes look a bit uncanny but i cant put my finger on it
>>7709566>>7709743Yeah, there was definitely a lot of issues with the face. Got help from a friend and think it's somewhat passable now. Gonna ink tomorrow.Cute Vessel and I think you've done a good job on the girl so far.>>7709722Very cute. Love where the fur overlaps.>>7709700Very handsome.
>>7709700
>>7708495sorry, I didn't study any artist in particular enough for it to make an impact>>7709640I wish I had this level of commitment, gmi
>>7709757that looks weird ;-;hes supposed to be looking down with his head a little tilted. i did change the positioning of the ears a little, hopefully it looks better now.hand is still fucked tho
>>7709760it still looks terrible
>>7709761kk got any critique or a redline instead of crabbin?
>>7709749thanks :DDDyeah the face looks much better now :D(move the nose a smidge to the left tho and it would look even better :3)>>7709640wow
maybe better now
>>7709771keep going untill you finally reverse engineer 7709757
digital snap tool makes perspective "study" so easy, it's cheating!!!
>>7709780before digital people use rulers and strings to line those up
>>7709749finished the girl, shes performing some sort of dance raiden in the corner is my next victim
>>7709771much better, the thing that was off was the eye proportions
>>7709634>>7709546oh what I'm not that person at all black Vader is totally fine I don't argue about anything anyway, I'm who they call "deerfag"
>>7709788holy fuck improvement?do not post your feet again
>>7709802ehehehhe i wontand thanksies:3
>>7709802how didyou know it was me?was it the million monkeys hidden in the back?
>>7709806cuz your brown
>>7709811i cant believe i overlooked that fact......
morning warm up doodles before coffee
Enter my fighting game inspired OC: HIRAGI JUNKO , the baddest motherfucker in all of Kyoto. Hailing as a graduate from Midori Gakuen, Junko was given the power of controlling dark souls by a mysterious organization at a young age. Hot-tempered and full of angst, Junko entered and won many fighting tournaments in search of the ones who stripped the young woman of her family and childhood.Because of her soul powers and silver hair, she was given the nickname: "The Ghoul of Kyoto".
>>7709864I wish I had the bravery to post something like this
>>7709864mogs me.
>>7709864keknice background
>>7709607Anyone saying you need to draw faster is a fucking retard. The ONLY time speed is relevant is if you're literally getting paid to draw.
>>7709607You got baited
new brainrot
>>7709878Please just go back to the straight shota.
>>7709869>>7709871>>7709871Many thanks!!!
(2/3)
(3/3)
>>7709906>>7709908holy soulmogsme
Is designdoll worth it?
>>7709598HAHA
1hr of figgies >>7709771Mirin' those folds>>7709722Fuzzy frens. Very cute>>7709640Phenomenal
>>7709914ymmv, but I find posing software too cumbersome and unfunI'd rather use photoref, make my own refs or pose an IRL figurine
>>7709915>>7709598So why do you keep bringing up that mediocre doodle and sabotaging others' artwork with it?
>>7709882no, i no longer believe there is any good in the world
>>7709914There's a trial version with most of the features and no time limit, play around with that for a while and see if you like it. I used to use it and never felt the need to upgrade.
>>7709924Bro it's just a joke
>>7709924Don't get what you mean, just thought it looked funny.
>>7709598epic
now onto dynamic shapes project for proko!focusing on gesture
>>7709937>>7709940>>7709973>>7709598>>7709627>>7709915>>7709687Am I the only one not getting the joke?
>>7709977'tism.
>>7709977That's a permabegschizo face that became like an internal joke
>>7710000your proportions...
>>7708719Will this faggot ever actually post an original piece of art
>>7710007Never
>>7710007>>7710009He's studying motherfuckers
>>7710007Who knows? I'm waiting to see it. >>7709916Thanks!
>>7710000not sure if you were going for accuracy. if you were... next time take a good look at the two. really focus up, maybe mirror the screen or turn it upside down so you can see it with fresh eyes. our eyes get better at spotting even small proportional differences over time as long as we practice seeking them out.this is basically what all accuracy studies boil down to, specific crits aren't too helpful when you're looking exactly at the ground truth beside your paper.
>>7710012Why does he kept posting it as if he mogs anyone with unoriginal work? Faggot behavior. Any beg can copy
>>7710019>Any beg can copylol. lmao.
>>7710019>Any beg can copyPermabegschizobros....
>>7710019>Any beg can copyYou have 3 examples of permabegs who cant copy for shit after years of trying and then you have birdstacy, favelaGOD and others who get it within days.Spatial awareness is a talent and permabegs dont have it.>>7710000>>7709598
2023 > 2025
>>7710037soul/soulless
>>7710037Looks nice anon.
Man it really is a lot better here after you filter "talent"
>>7710037good progress>>7710039faggot crab
>>7709872it looks like it's from the apartment complex from PSME
why havent you c6''ed her anon?>>7709908me irl>>7709916nice figgies , especially lower row, second right>>7710007hopefully>>7710025ahwwww
the way too cute ref>>7710053
>>7710054romance film>>7710053horror film
>>7710054can you link the artist? i cant find their page
>>7710066
>>7710071here is the name One汪药丸they are on billibili/weibou i think,i got it via pinterest but the name is inthe corner too
>>7710066accurate desu XD
i def need to learn how to properly make 3d forms some daybut anyway, sneal
i found a really neat website about constructing in perspective and the math behind it and what not, should've saved it... do any anons know which one i mean?
>>7709788Looking very good my man. As the other Anon said, definite improvement.>(move the nose a smidge to the left tho and it would look even better :3)Thanks friend. I'll keep that in mind for when I get around to inking.>>7709818Damn, I've already had my coffee and haven't done anything half as good. I kneel, King.Also saved for my 'FifeAnon Folder'.>>7710085Very nice forms and stylization.
>>7710093Dude nobody cares. How about you post something instead of glazing people?
>>7710096Bro, I've just woken up. Give me a minute.
>>7710101>Bro, I've just woken upYou just woke up and the first thing you do is fire up 4chan? I was messing around,but now I think it would be wise for you to stay away from this site.
>>7709517I still can't tell if getting into the OP is a good or a bad thing
>>7710121It's too late friend. For me and for you. We're here forever.
>>7710133>We're here forever.I also like porn and drugs but I don't do it first thing in the morning how about you live your life a little before giving in to your vices?
reminder
>>7710136hmmm. .No.
>>7710037what did you do in that time?Hours per day, what sort of practice, changes in technique, resources used...thanks(we need to know... direly)
I drew today. It was trash.
>>7710136ok mom
>>7710150>hours per daylike an hour, sometimes two>practicemostly doing copies early on, I wasn't doing any super secret technique or anything>resources usedfinding artists on twitter I liked and copying them, then a few months ago I did Krenz's perspective course, but that's basically itpic rel was everything I did over the course of my first month for example
>>7710158I feel horrible saying this but you kind of stagnated at the end of month 1, can you post more of your recent drawings?
>>7710158Further proof that I am talentless trash.
>>7710158I swear I saw your day 1 before... how odd.Thanks for the info. I do mostly photo studies. Works quite well. But I should study other artists, too, I guess.
Today the computer was free for a long time, so I spent about 2h in total pure drawing time on 1 min gestures. Ended up with 50 because I redrew several to understand them deeper - the first attempts at them ended up bad. I also ended up spending a bit more than a minute on most of them - I found I lack about 10 seconds to complete most. + I use the windows clock app to manually set timers, so that and scrolling through images takes up some time. 2h is the result.I feel like I am starting to understand what Vilppu is talking about. I wouldn't say I'm definitely "feeling the form" but there's a vocabulary of lines that help quickly mark the main points of a figure. I even have time to think about accuracy for a bit now! On that note, I need to level it up. I've spent some time copying stuff in the past, so I've got a bit of basic skill in that, but more is always good.I remember the other anon said I have no excuse to draw as little as I do because gestures can be done in trad. That is true, but my references are on the computer, also the PC table is the only free sufficiently large surface where I can draw. Also I can only really seriously concentrate when I'm using it.Ah well, more excuses, I can just take a board to place a sheet of paper on and send the images to my phone. No limits for one who wants to learn. I will remember this next time.I have also found I am extremely inefficient about my drawing time. In about 5h I was using the computer and tablet for, only about 2h were pure drawing time, as I said. The rest were spent on useless, recursive thoughts and walking around the apartment doing random stuff and chatting with relatives. This has always been my bane, I will try to make more of a conscious effort to remove these thoughts from my mind. (Note from the end of the post: I have also spent about 50 minutes typing this up and re-reading this for coherency and mistakes... seriously, what the fuck am I doing with my time?)
Anon also said to check out Hampton's gesture. I watched a 17 min youtube video where he gives a free rundown of the method, and I think it is more esoteric than what Vilppu is teaching lol. I remember him mentioning horizontal line being boring, vertical being stiff, so he uses diagonals??? What?? The method itself has clearly defined steps, but it requires one to understand the muscles the lines are based on. Also he spent like 3 mins explaining feet wtf? All in all, I am not impressed, but I downloaded his Gesture Course and I'm going to watch it (maybe not in full, but nonetheless) to understand this subject deeper, this youtube video was probably an incomplete overview.I also promised I would start drawing a cyberpunk scene, but I got sucked into the gesture grind, so I will do it next time. Maybe tomorrow morning?I feel like I've levelled up my gesture enough to understand the next chapter of Vilppu's book. I will read it next and watch the video. Not to say I won't continue drawing gesture - there's still a lot to learn, I just think it's time to make the next step.I hope other anons are learning and having fun drawing as well. Ganbarou!
Consensus?
>>7710191>beforeprobably, ive posted it once in the past i think>>7710179sure anon here's some other stuff from the past few months
>>7710187is it talent if he stopped progressing basically at all after a month?
>>7710203first one is insanely appealing
>>7710205i liked it a lot too but unfortunately my color/lighting knowledge wasn't enough to get there on my own, I had a mentor friend of mine help me figure out the rendering
https://youtu.be/8fq3tOtbISE?si=-3KGYjDgszpicvcw
>>7710206i see, still good taste tho. u should study kinu nishimura if you wanna learn that lighting style, she has a couple pieces like that
>>7710203The first is goodThe second one your perspective is inconsistent and your form is badThe third is good but the symbol shading is badThe fourth is okThe fifth needs work
>>7710212wow, i've never ever heard this said at all... why pretend like every artist is a robot or something, if anything i just see people here ignoring advice at every opportunity.
>>7709517anyone has any tentacle template/cheat sheet? just basics>wtf why?my work is wobbly, even if i get the perspective right the line is wobbly i was thinking of doing some line exercises but why bother when i can draw something stupid instead?thanks by the way
>>7710218can you explain your critique on the second one?
115th cringe15 minutes (timed)tried for stronger expressions to look less robotic.. right eye looks out of place, would have been easy to fix digitally116th cringe~13 minutescat woke up and chose violence so I didn't get the full 15 minutes
>>7710247Now rip and tear
how do I render glass jars ? I tried bur it looks like the fairies drown in cum instead
>>7710244what r they arguing about
>>7710253rodent things
>>7710252why so many details, usually glass is just some highlights plus darker borders.
>>7710252Can u show the full piece, looks like it'd be cool looking
>>7710252very pretty
>>7710259dark borders ? thank you ill try>>7710261very much wip, i bet you can't see shit I'm unable to paint anything clear
How do I make girls look cute instead of fugly-cute?How do I draw whatever the hell this sleeveless sweater type thing is supposed to be?Is this "draw on whiteboard with marker pen, erase, draw something else" technique actually going to make my pencil/pen and paper drawings better because it's so much faster to iterate?
>>7710212NOOOHe's spilling the beans, sharing the secrets!How am I gonna compete with my betters when they find this out, my last treasured advantageACK!
hollow knigga>>7710244i like the energyof these>>7710136you havent truly lived if you dont slap yourself with a dick first thing in the morning>>7710247i wish this was tenna and spamtonnice hands
when that one drawing was put on my deer girls face I didn't want to draw today, but I decided to anyways
>>7710228I thought the same but then I read the comments and one dude talked about how his friend was study- brained and now idk. Maybe a ton of students who loves studies come to him for more exercises and he's tired of giving them.
Can't draw ... but 4 chan is the coolest communioty
is this a stupid idea or worth trying? >get small 5x8.5" sketchbook plus mech pencil, eraser, etc, possible a fineliner or fountain pen as well>very simple set>do ONE drawing everyday, say, when you wake up or before you go to bedso even if you don't spend a gorillion hours on some big painting or grinding fundies you still have that to show for it. i mean how hard can it be to do a little drawinglet?
>>7710285uhhhh i understand not spending a couple hours on a painting daily, i myself have got bad art block for some weeks and been only doing doodles and studies, but do people really struggle to draw the tiniest amount? at that point shouldn't you just look for another hobby?
>>7710277Yeah maybe your shouldn’t have >>7710282>can’t drawYou’ll get there, just dedicate 5 hours a day for 10 years!
>>7710285I've read mixed things about forcing drawing every day. I've experienced that being efficient with practice makes it a lot easier to draw more frequently. Then again, fun-anon made some really amazing art after several years of daily "fun" so that method can clearly work too.>>7710288>if you aren't willing to sacrifice all other hobbies, socialization, and probably your career too then this hobby isn't for you
>>7710296>if you aren't willing to sacrifice all other hobbies, socialization, and probably your career too then this hobby isn't for youyes, that is exactly what >>7710288 said. i fucking hate this website.
>>7710005>>7710017I'm not trying to make a perfect copy, but like >>7710034 says, my permabeg brain really struggles with proportions.
i can do better i can do better i can do better
>>7710285that's basically what I do, it shows since I don't progress as fast as others but I still have stuff to show for it. do a few 5-10 min figs, move on daily
>>7710285>get small 5x8.5" sketchbook plus mech pencil, eraser, etc, possible a fineliner or fountain pen as wellI do this specifically for travel but instead my tools are ball point, fineliner, brushpen. It really helped proportions, (it isn't perfect though). I draw on my commute to work and on my lunch break then try to get at least an hour at home on work days. If you can pair drawing with another habit in a different location (like me being on a train or in a breakroom) it'll make it easier to draw. if you're brave enough you can set an hour everyday where you either draw or do nothing. >>7710300>i fucking hate this website.Same, my mind always thinks it will be something different but it's the same shitty people with the same shitty art or showering compliments everywhere. It's so girly here now.
Drawing is so fun! Very rusty so need to draw more but I drew all day!
>>7709517Still working on my VN about twelve identical sisters; which of these looks better? I want her to look like a ditzy energetic sports girl.
>>7710311if you don't ever do exact copies you won't learn proportions. just like you have to train your brain to drop symbol drawing, you need to train it to compare your piece to the ref and see how to fix it and make it more accurate.
>someone spread the lie you shouldn't try to make perfect copies and permabegs are buying it
>>7710320crabs are the worst. training your observation is very important for everything else and good copy is the way to do it. no grids, no construction besides rough sketching. mainly why i dont like to stay in this general anymore.
>>7709546cat
>>7710328I don't think it's always crabbing. I think it's people who don't know better trying to help people who don't know enough to know the advice is wrong. The nature of /beg/ is that once people start really learning they leave, so the only knowledge that passed on is between /beg/ and /permabeg/
>>7710332in the end, the best advice is to just draw, it'll click eventually if youre not retarded.
>>7710312Potential-pilled
>>7710319Certainly, but I'm doing those studies to practice complex poses because I wasted several hours last week trying to bend the loli on the right to assume the pose on the left, but failed miserably, so I'm more interested in practicing foreshortening than proportions right now.
>>7710343forgor pic
>>7710317Proud of you
>>7710343why do u want the loli to do the pose on the left...
>>7710204I havent even reached his 1-month progress after years.
>>7710320Nothing but bullshit. You dont see talented children making bargue plates like maniacs like the grown ass adults here who cant copy for shit years into drawing.All of this is spatial awareness that you are either born with or not. And if you dont then you are unironically fucked unless you start using grids or some bullshit.
>>7710361what do these people get from posting here. constantly mentioning some "permabeg", comparing them to someone or talking about talent, very obnoxious.
>>7710368Shitting on someone below them to make themselves feel better. You see it everywhere else.
>>7710350It's an interesting pose. I think more people should draw lolis doing those kinds of poses, to challenge themselves or whatever.
does this schizo art from tiktok mog you?
>>7710378>tfw the green fart turned into hairy brown poop
>>7710328>no grids, no construction besides rough sketching.First timer here, I vaguely understand that sketching is the part that shows what you are lacking, but does sketching have a limit on time or adjustment?For picrel I did basic construction and then about 8 hours drawing the lines and filling in details, undoing if the stroke was bad.My thinking was that I was practicing properly by drawing each line correctly (to my knowledge), but would I actually benefit more by powering through within a time limit? Or maybe I should treat it like ink on paper where I can't correct by erasing?Anything I try to do in a short amount of time is a mess, by the way. Even gesture drawing will take me forever because the line I see and the line I draw are drastically different and I don't know how to build off of something that's incorrect.
Barely tried faces and it was a pain having the elements align to where it matched the ref. Couldn't get how to draw lips either so that took 15 minutes, an hour total. The round watercolor brush was fun to use.
>>7710378I have no idea what I'm looking at, so no.
>>7710343Proportions are extremely important for foreshortening, are you stupid?
>>7710387im sure this will make it easier to understand
>>7710000why are you a pedophile
>>7710376go back to your containment general
>>7710396maybe he's thinking of running for president
>>7710344this is significantly worse than normal loli. please stop posting this here. there is no ambiguity about what you're trying to do. which is depict a child
>>7710403why? its on topic
>>7710403Also her ribs and abs section makes her look sickly please stop it and find a more aesthetic way to communicate it, there's a general for you somewhere on this site you ought to go there.
>>7710318not to be a blind leading the blind situation but what about something like this
>>7710409kill yourself pedophile
>>7710344this is significantly better than normal loli. please keep posting this here. there is no ambiguity about what you're trying to do. which is depict a cunny
>>7710000>>7710311>>7710344>>7710377Don't listen to what the crabs on this board are saying. These aren't that bad anon.
>>7710384yes, taking your time is good. only time where time limits are recommended is when accuracy is not a priority but you'll know when that's the case.
I was pretty satisfied with this, until I noticed that the shadow on the nose is on the wrong side, and that the wings and tail are missing.
please leave dollfag
Please stay dollstein
>>7710420compare the toes >>7710377 hereits not just the whole shifted perspective, but the flattened toes are legit symbolic and have no good anatomy. you cant call it style when copying something already stylized, you should at least try to make it look right. its not bad, thats not what i'm saying, but when studying "masters" you should do so. those little details are what make or break pictures sometimes.
>>7710391>>7710378stunning. What else doe he got?
>>7710384>powering through within a time limit?hell no. take your time. speed comes with age and experience. doing it right is what counts
I'm attempting to sketch a random NPC for RPGmaker... I can't even choose the colors I want to fill in with. For now it's just a sketch of a weapon shop store, but it looks more like a npc from a small item shop instead,
>>7710449He's practicing complex poses though. This has nothing to do with studying masters.
>>7710053Raiden has seen some shit>nice figgies , especially lower rowThanks. Makes sense, they are ordered roughly shortest to longest. From 1 minute to around 8 mins
>>7710344blog? Is this your oc?
>>7710456
>>7710462i guess if it's a weapon store, a manly guy would be more fitting? not sure how to help with the colors though, might just want to look into refs.
Let a genuine chuckle when I mirror it back lol. I guess I got too lost in the sauce.
>>7710390yeah, I shouldn't have been so quit to disregard themI hope you are right. I like how they are coming out, but I'm a permabeg, so by definition I'm not that good at judging this kind of stuff.>>7710449good point>>7710461>blogI don't have one yet>ocno, she's from gochiusa
>>7710484the second point on the fist reply was supposed to be for >>7710420
>>7710462here's another test NPC design.
>>7710485dollstein... I kneel
>>7710504
>>7710485Stop using a opacity brush for everything. I can see you struggle and schizoing to keep the tones uniform and it is making your work look messy and dirty.Once you get the lines down pick a size brush like basic-size and then pick 3 tones to shade it.Look at your ref drawing. It only has black, white and two greys while your shading is a mess because you are using a brush that has opacity tied to pressure and you arent being consistent with it.It is a very shitty redline but your lines are already good enough in their position, just try to draw over them with a inking brush that has a set opacity and then stick to 3 tones instead of trying to shade with a opacity brush. Not even tradfags shade like this (maybe airbrushers)I tried to make the right eye uniform and left the left eye as is and tried to ink some lines.>uncroppedhttps://litter.catbox.moe/z1eormd1vboogwxd.JPGA personal detail. Do you like being called dollfag? I always called you like that because everyone calls you that.
>>7710520surely this time he will listen
>>7710522He has just become bitter but I am pretty sure he will pull through!He is starting to fix his issue of ingrained ugly face styles so I believe he can leave the pit of permabegness unlike me!
>>7710007No. It's another anon that mindlessly copies images instead of making anything original. It's like Proko, someone who's skilled at copying but the moment you take away their reference they're in shambles because they don't know what or how to draw anything otherwise. In fact he's worse because he never finishes his work, KEK.
>>7710528he MOGS ME
Tried copying a human, it's a lot harder when you have to decide the lines yourself.He came out looking like one of those memes, too bad about the neck.>>7710422>>7710453Thanks, I'll keep on as is, then.
>>7710528copying is essential, but its not the end, only the beginning. if you cant copy what you see in front of you freehand, you shouldnt start learning. drawing a hundred hands from reference in many poses will ingrain it into your memory. obviously you should also not just use the reference, but draw them from memory after and play around. that anon is just a bad example you shouldnt follow, doesnt mean that copying is bad. stop being as stupid as he is. thats why people that are slightly advanced shouldnt even be here, you get the wrong ideas, crab around, dont study enough. all you do is for status, money, clicks, attention anything but the art itself. get fucking real.
>>7710537Nothing I said indicated that copying is bad, "mindlessly" copying and not incorporating it into some imaginative works is. This is some weird level of projection on your part.
I managed to spend the entire day without drawing anything, I want to blow my brains out.
last of the day>>7710520Thanks for the feedback. I'll switch the brush tomorrow.>dollfagI don't mind.
He died from boneitis
>>7709532>>7709601>>7709864>>7709906>>7709908>>7710271>>7710277>>7710318>>7710411>>7710429When you anons post stuff like this do you not feel any shame or cringe? I’m not bashing I’m on the same or even below this level but I’d blow my brains out if someone ever saw anything like this from me.
>>7710562>I'm a huge faggot, please rape my facewhat the FUCK did anon mean by that?
>>7710563Well? Pull out that sloppy cock anon, he's hungry!
>>7710562No, because this is an anonymous message board. It's exactly the one place where I can ask for tips where there's no shame or cringe. I know my stuff sucks already. It would only be bad if people I know saw it.
>>7710562Shut up, crab.
>>7710562Not even the worst that has been posted in /beg/
>>7710568agreed this anon : >>7710562is a salty mongoloid crab who has no joy because he thinks it makes him such an adult but i bet his pushing 30 and lives like asmongold
>>7710562>on the same or even below this level but I’d blow my brains out if someone ever saw anything like this from me.Ignorance breeds confidence. Ultimately you aren't really connected to these pieces of art because you're on an anonymous image board so why not? I do agree with the cringe here, I was saying it to myself while going through this thread. I don't agree with the last 2 though, one is working in a pretty complicated medium with some solid accuracy and the other is self aware enough to know that they aren't as skilled but brave enough to put a suggestion out there.
pre bed depression slop >>7710562idgaf plus I was trying to help someone else
>>7710562I already gave up on being anything but permabeg trash.
>>7710562you guys can't call this guy a crab for calling bad art from people that haven't read the sticky badmaybe you guys don't want to improve the right way but you shouldn't ask advice in that case
>>7710585pyw
I broke a thousand "views"[FIST_PUMPING_BABY.BMP]
Anyone got one of these that goes for more extreme angles?
>>7710588it is not difficult to be better than any of the artists he (you)'d
>>7710595>>7709598
>>7710562>mfw my post isn't hereIt still sucks but eh.
>>7710416awwwww
Can't keep my eyes open anymore, must sleep.
>>7710562>crabs and doesn't post workfag
I'm becoming acutely aware of how the surface of paper gets messed up by erasing
>>7710614hmmm
>>7710562kids learn stuff fast because they aren't afraid of making mistakesshame and cringe just get in the way
>>7710636lol.
>>7710639Are you the same guy who doodles copies on a sketchbook (trad)?
>>7710642Yeah
>>7710643Damn. Thats some insane difference between the loose and wild trad and the perfect digital.Suicidefuel ngl.
>>7710619that's why you need to stop turd polishing iwth traditional. get a new paper and move on if it sucks. learn from the mistakes and KEEP THE ART dont throw it away so you can keep comparing.Use shitty paper so you dont spend too much of it.
>>7710639blog?
>>7710639Are these copies?
>>7710644I actually really hate how my lines look in digital because I can't draw as loose as I can with trad. >>7710649I do but it's just a dumping zone for the same studies I already post in these threads. >>7710651The girl is aside from some parts of the hair. The cats are from photo refs
>>7710654>I doCool post it
Is this unsalvageable?Is it wrong for poultry to envy eagles and hawks?uncroppedhttps://files.catbox.moe/et9qmk.JPG
>>7710661@torulen
>>7710668mogs me
>>7709517is there a step by step process I can follow before I can draw sexy teenager super women?
>>7710636That's the most important thing. Kids 'just draw', they don't care about their cringe OCs, they just draw. While the 30 yo old dudes here don't make progress because even looking at their drawings causes them panic attacks. Draw your shitty drawing, post them, have fun and try to improve. Don't get stuck like this mass replying anon (or like me)
>>7710458raiden has seen my artifacts, poor girlnp :3>>7710518deerman sighted>>7710559noooooooooooo
>>7710562>my work isn't on the cringe listgmi
>>7710639good designs
>>7710572>working in a pretty complicated medium with some solid accuracyGeez, you'd make me blush if I could. Hopefully this next one isn't too much of a disappointment by comparison.
>>7710668what's supposed to be the issueher torso looks a bit flat though, easily fixable. (i don't mean give her tits, you're supposed to see the curve of the ribcage and the bottom of the groin from that angle)
>>7710640sex
Working on this observation stuff.
Sketch 1.5hrHow is it
you should always take care of your teeth, having no jaw is not an excuse>>7710639based catswhat prgram do you use
barely drawing. busy with school sigh
>>7710828the sketch is alright, but the perspective of the hair does not match the face, and the ear is unfinishedthe values are kinda shit, and leaving patches of white looks ugly
>>7710093np :3 and thanks :DDim happy that people see imrpvement
>>7710842Looks amazing. Was this done on magma by any chance
morning quickies >>7710093thank you so much anon! glad to know I've got my own folder haha, feels very good to know
Hi /ic/, /beg/ here. I tried a different sketching technique for making a rough drawing of the character. Is it any good?
>>7710848thanks, no the brush was just tiny
happy with how this turned out but I really want to get better at coloring and hair (nsfw alt in the sexual art thread) any tips for coloring? are custom brushes a meme? I just use the default brushes on openCanvas
>>7710842good drawing nonnie
Quick Nulgath.
>>7710714SHUT UP>>7710760That it looks flat and ugly and shit. Everything is crude, I cant draw the anatomy in correct perspective for shit and I am permabeg.Literally nothing from it is worth saving.
>>7710871ok stop posting and asking for advice then
added my oc
>>7710874Marry, kill, fuck
>>7710877i understand.. the 7ft tall half furry is very imposing
>>7710562idk man I just like to draw
>>7710872No. Even if I am permabeg. I want to keep drawing.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7710943Dont skimp on the white shines of the hair motherfucker.
I dunno.
>>7710943Why do you keep completely changing the pose?
how critical is "you must have very short time limit" in gesture drawing practice? I did not had time limit while doing this but it did not took more that 5 minutes
Sketching after a funeral feels a bit weird.What's more, I forgot everything about hands again.
>>7710967It's close enough. It's just practice.
>>7710555>>7710943that looks way better than last one imo
i have achieved... zero appeal
>>7710980How did you manage to make it look WORSE? You did this on purpose.
>>7710971time limit doesn't matter when your gesture looks this good
>>7710981permabeg schizo has been mogging me for a while
>>7710943You're doing really good with these
>>7710972thats a very cute but smug girl to draw so soon after burying someone anon :(
>>7710983You must be retarded or trolling if you believe that.
>>7710943https://youtu.be/1uYCRwstfq0?t=356
>>7710855Looks good except I can't make sense of the hat
>>7710838CSP
>>7710980maybe dont combine anime with realism
I'm trying to learn how to paint bruises/bleeding and using texture sheets as a means to test out my work. How does it look so far?
>>7710943Looks like a panel from an early 2000s doujinshi
no reference
>First ever drawing mogs mehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=pFIBmeETfOAFurther proof that talent exists and g*d gave me negatives of it.Why is it so fucking easy for everyone else.
>>7711012Shut up
haven't drawn the purple one in a bit
Too angry to draw.
>>7710986It wasn't really someone I interacted much with. So I'm not feeling bad or anything. Just uncomfortable.
>>7711012>that literally first ever drawing.Lol. lmao. Whats the point anymor.eee
>>7711012it's hard for me too and I keep drawing because I enjoy it. it is what it is
>>7711039I assure you it isnt hard for you.
>>7710949I'll do better next time.>>7710967I'm bad at drawing.>>7710975>>7710985>>7710993thanks
>>7710972Next time do a still life of the deceased
>>7711002how did you get this unwrap?For it it always unrwraps in the weirdest ways
>>7710980I like it
>Post art>People hate itThere is no hope.
>>7711079Link your art so I can pretend to like it
>>7711079which art is urs?
>>7711083But people pitying me only hurts me more>>7711084The worst one itt.
>>7710862with that style, i can't tell what you're going for. what kind of art would you say is your goal? if you know that, you can start by looking to emulate that.
>>7709794x.com/xyzzyartso that i dont forget
>>7711086But I'm the worst one itt
>>7711094You cant be worse than this fucking garbage >>7710668
>>7711092followed
>>7711095Faces remain your weakness but neck down has plenty of appeal.
>>7711099lol no everything is flat and unappealing and fucking dogshit. The torso is fuckign grotesque.I finally get a whole day for drawing and I realize it isnt time but fucking negative talent.idkwhat to fucking do anymore.
>>7710668why did you make her fat?
>>7711102Because I am retarded and talentless.
>>7711100You're thinking like an artist, not a coomsoomer. There's always plenty to improve but most people don't give a shit that you didn't make the ribcage round enough.
>>7711102>fat>img is of a skinny loli?
What are some good exercises for training pen/pencil pressure control for trad and digital?
>>7711012anon you know hes just lying for content right?
>>7711105I didn't know it was possible to be this American
>>7710007aint that guy the one tracer who got BTFO'd hard by deerbro?
>>7710967Worthless faggot crab post. A beg may not even understand the difference between poses, as it's not "completely changed". You could've redlined the difference, but instead just shat out pointless snarky remark because it makes you feel a little bit better about your pathetic self.
a request >>7711111I'm not sure. I also was the person who found who that guy was copying this time. nothing wrong with copying but I get rubbed the wrong way when people copy super directly (color picking etc) and don't reference the artist they're copying
>>7711086wait but mine is the worst
tried to do a few from imagination
>>7711104If you cant draw better than that after 5 years then what is the fucking point? People get way way better than that in weeks and if you still cant draw something as simple as an anime face in perspective then just fucking consider suicide you permabeg mediocre piece of shit.Everyone would be better off. Nobody wants it.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OTERBUfwgEo
It's time for our weekly permabegschizo incel meltdown already?
>>7711123I think it's the same crab as that other time, because he also only posts traces/copies and claims he "mogs people". Also does the same "it's just a study bro" after being caught tracing
tried drawing a little but it fucking sucksblah blah studies references blah blah I'm just drawing bc the bath is grilling up and I feel like shit whatever it's not meant to be napolean you're at
>>7711160yeeaah idk. that guy can't actually draw. i think he's only posted one "original" drawing the entire time he's posted if that's him then and it was prob still heavy referenced because he can't draw on his own
>>7711166being able to draw refs is still good if you can do well it bc you could just piece together numerous refs into one new thing, just like AI except organic
>>7711167he doesn't do that, my biggest issue isn't with copying anyway. it's posting copies as if they're your original work, it's theft. by saying they're his and pretending that he's mogging people with them he's stealing the original artists art work. he also in the past never indicated any of his copies were studies and also traced a few of them. it's just theft, and you can't mog someone if the only thing you can do is steal
>>7711168not only was he not honest about it being copies, in some cases he even told people critizicing the anatomy mistakes as "stylistic choice" yeah no shit, maybe from the original creatorit is absolutely the same traceshitter too, since >>7708753 is the same but a bit different from when I called him out on his copying back in feb >>7479162
>>7711168James somerton is itt??
>>7711176oh shit, didn't realize he ran into issues with other people besides me. not surprised. idk why he keeps coming back when everyone knows he's a fraud, and why he comes back and plays the same gimmick every time.
>>7711106i was recommended to try to make a line that is thicker at the middle and thinner at the ends., then doing it faster and faster didn't bother doing it much though.
death to talented rats
>>7711183IT WAS A STUDYIT WAS A STUDY
>>7710905Quite nice but the head seems off
>>7711183the overlay shows that hes not tracing though. I can't tell if this is bait or if you're permabeg
>>7711199he said it was traced in a post actually. too lazy to find it, but he said he traced because he hadn't done digital art in a while. and then acted as if it wasn't traced later. he just changed it around a bit etc
>>7711144very nice
>>7711210>>7711199
On paper it looked better, how to improve
>>7711212bad trace then kek
>>7711210>>7711212Damn, what a dickhead.
>>7711199>>7711212embarrassing
>>7711183it's almost endearing, he's kind of like a tertiary villain with his own catchphrase "I mog you to oblivion"
>>7711226then who's the protagonist?
creture(that thing is a mix of a reference and my own addons)>>7711021nice poses>>7710996cool, me too>>7711123dont know who made this request but thank him from me nghgh>>7711212ew
>>7711227Permabegschizo
the sickass ref/inspiration or smth>>7711229
It's so bad that no one cares, I'm tired of it
>>7711213there's nothing to crit here, not only is it a bunch of random shit, but none of it looks high effort. work on a piece.
>>7711244The finished work will be crap that will not be paid attention to either, especially why do head work if the basics are so bad and you criticize them
>>7710277it dawned upon me you probably never saw the fanart I did of your deer girl, apologies for the repost but. Here, it may make you feel better
I'm not sure if I was able to capture the effect I wanted with this drawing like a girl-failure type of character.
>>7711259MOGS ME
>They're on a break togetherI tried drawing the Corporal from the side. How do they look?
>>7711260Thanks, man! If you notice any mistakes in my drawing, feel free to point them out (other drawing of her)
>>7711253whiny bitch, stop posting then.
hey guys can any painter bro help me? there is always something off with my painting, even if I color pick and try to copy as close as I can, what is that...
>>7711269Are you retarded? I want to draw and get appreciation and criticism like everyone else.
>>7711272kwab
last drawing for the month.Still not good. Onto the next one!>>7711270Cool style. Are you that German?(Alas, I cannot help you with painting)
>>7711274It would be better if you gave advice instead of calling me names like a spawn of nits.
>>7711277mogsme
>>7711272>>7711278i already gave you advice, you replied entirely with whining while mentioning unrelated shit. you posted a paper full of doodles and asked "how to get better". that's asking for generic shit advice, just watch random tutorials then. obviously your finished work will look like shit, but at least it will make clear what exactly is shit, compared to 10 minute doodles with mistakes easily fixed with time.are you incapable of behaving like a human, ivan? are you legitimately mentally ill or what? why should anyone give you advice if you're just gonna say it's gonna look shit anyways and act like a faggot constantly?
icantdraw
>>7711258I did not see this, thank you very much! I have been mirin your work as of late. I am a really big fan your line style!
>>7711021hot and artistic
>>7711211hot ahri bro
>>7711258you've gotten better. You always had this loose style and you still have it, but your bodies don#t disappear in a cloud of lines.I think this style is perfected now. A bit Da Vinci-esque, even.
>>7711286ahh I'm so glad you like it!>>7711287thanks!!>>7711229thanks monkafren cute lil guy in the upper left>>7711291wow thanks! yeah I'm happy I've finally improved xD hopefully on the path to int now. I'm really glad to hear that, now I just need to learn anatomy and all that stuff
>>7711284I'll draw and post the finished work, no one will care either, you hypocritical pus
>>7711296Just be good and people will care
>>7711297People care about permabegschizo and give him redraws and shit.
>>7711266So cute and soulful
https://x.com/CrevettaVT/status/1962004497841963434tell me god is real
>>7711145>no work tomorrow >took some Modafinil>made some coffee>it's 7pmOh yeah, I'm ready to draw for the next 38 hours.
>>7711305I won't lie, it took me a solid minute to figure out what the fuck I was looking at.
>>7711305>Bitching about likes and attentionThis is the drawing general you fucking trogl.
I'm suddenly sick of drawing and hate every line I make. This is why I'll remain a premabeg for the rest of my days.
>>7711308It's the fall of society you scum
>>7711309you cant be worse than me so shut up ttwat.
i was a permabeg and then i started improving
>>7711305can a knower tell me whether it should target the hood or the bud- the image suggests to focus the hood
>>7711313I will die a permabeg. There is no improvement without talent.
I was doing a study using a blurry screenshot of a 3D scene for reference and now halfway through the sketch I realize ill have to make shit up because the image isn't clear enough for my beginner dumbass. But is this actually a good outcome? when the reference is manga or another drawing it's easier but what happened now would be better for learning isn't it?
>>7711104Anon literally fucking nothing there is not worth "improving". I cant improve it. I am retarded.>>7711102Is she really fat? People say I draw wide.
>>7711294hihih np :3and thanskies :DD
>>7710668https://files.catbox.moe/v9iud6.JPGTried to shorten her proportions but now it doesnt look foreshortened and she looks to fucking fridge-likeIT IS OVER.
>>7711270You're not pushing your values dark enough. Making a guess here, you started by filling in her skin color with the palest shade, then painted the shadows on top? Try using a mid tone as the base and then painting both the shadows and highlights over it instead.You're also overusing the textured brush, especially on her body- don't paint with it, use it last to add final touches.
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>>7711351
>>7711351Just draw :)
It's nice having a decent pen
>>7711356ICANT
ok, i followed in real time the pose/rhythm vid from proko.tomorrow, i will be spending a LOT of time trying to masture the pose & rhythm of the body this was tough to follow quickly
>>7711383oh nyo... srry i saved rotated :\
I have no talent to make it past permaprebeg
>>7711348thank you so much, your advice was very on point I'll focus on those things, what do you think now? I still think it's off, I could maybe push the values a bit more, or be more accurate with the forms
>>7711387those are 5 minute faces at most
>>7711395I could spend 5 hours on a single one and it would only get worse.You arent able to understand how utterly fucking retarded, talentless and hopeless I am.
Tried drawing arms and torsos the other day. Dont know if I retained any of this knowledge but at least my feet are wet now.
>>7711399fuvk those are great.
Oof
>>7711406So, how come your trad is so loose and messy but the digital art comes out perfectly clean?Isnt the rule to make it as perfect as possible?
Finished this one. Hope you guys like titties.
>>7711411lmao
>>7711411Her lip biting looks like rapejak.
>>7711409I'm not the other guy who posts a bunch of sketches every day, and my stuff is messy because I'm not good
>>7711414WTFFFFF I had never seen this before KEK
>>7711414HAHA
>>7711347>she looks to fucking fridge-likethat's actually an improvement
>>7711422No it isnt. I dont like it.And even then the rest is garbage.
>>7711422you like children
a couple of references, a couple of light studies, and some doodlesI hope to have more variety in what I draw at least in terms of study vs ref vs imagination and I'll try incorporating more objects and life stuff too ig
>>7711434more people should
I want to cry.I just want to draw but I have no talent for it.Everyone hates my drawings and I dont haev the talent to make them stop looking like garbage.I want to give up because I hate drawing but I want to draw.I am not having fun when everything I draw is ugly and people laugh at it but I want to draw.
>>7711434I just really love fridges.
>>7711443Anon, if you have fun when drawing, then you're drawing slop, so it's good that you aren't. Keep practicing.
>>7711443cry then bitch
>>7711446I have been practicing for years and I cant do the most basic things that anons here get in weeks.I want to be like those weirdo autists from ancient deviantart who are joyous drawing disgusting slop. I want to be unaware of how permabeg I am.>>7711448i am
>>7711450have you tried doing any beg courses or are you just symbol drawing white heads in void
>>7711450>I want to be unaware of how permabeg I am.Ahhh... How many times I've said this. Unfortunately, you found your way into this cursed place, and now there's no turning back. The curtains have been lifted and you'll never look at your work without asking yourself "Is this beg?" again. But don't worry, you'll come around.
I feel like I should have more to show after half an hour but it's always harder to get back in to the swing of things when you take the weekend off.>>7710849I've had it for a while and it grows regularly. Your art is a treat to look at!>>7710972I hope everything is well as it can be, anon. Cite girl. Pure sovl.>>7711129>picrelkek>>7711137Thought that was Andrew Tate with hair for a second.>>7711435The Professor seems like a cool guy and the bou by his arm is a cute.How are the teeth feeling?
>>7711452I have gone through huston, proko , fucktons of dab, peter han.I am blind. I cant measure. I cant explain it in a way that people get it and everyone has told me I am just making up shit but I cant keep shit in proportions.It is as if I was drawing blind. Nobody gets it.There is something wrong with me
>>7711453>>7707158Anon please look at this fucking garbage and tell me if someone who has spent years drawing and cant even do this fucking dogshit is worth saving.This trash would be horrible for someone not even a week into drawing.For someone with years wasted it is just proof I should give up.I dont even know what to do anymore.
>>7711457give up
>>7711458I cant.
>>7711459why
>>7711460I have given away and destroyed tablets.Thrown away books, notebooks and burnt piles of paper.Stabbed myself with pencils before breaking them and throwing them away from a 5th floor.I always find myself doodling again. Even if it is just starting a mediocre doodle on the back of work documents with a ballpen.I want to draw but g*d has made me talentless to laugh at me. Has forced me to look at the talented anons making it look like the easiest thing ever while I keep revolting in my own excrement.
>>7711457uhhh your construction?
I'm just glad I'm back from my trip and have access to my drawing tablet again
>>7711454>How are the teeth feeling?they're fine ty for askingI drew your cat from the other day, at least I think she's your cat>>7710330
>>7711457You fucking retard. If drew this one, then it looks really good and cute. Again, just keep practicing. And practice with intention, with a goal. Like practicing to improve your anatomy skills, form or whatever.
>>7711440based?
>>7711469>If drew this one, then it looks really good and cuteYou are either gaslighting me or blind.>>7711463Look at how retarded I am. Just plain out garbage. Noticed at the end that the bck of the skull goes fucking nowhere.
>>7711467Glad to hear it!Cute cat but not mine ( I like the eyepatch). I hope that Anon's doing okay.
>>7711469Easy for you to say.
>>7711443Maybe draw something simpler like landscapes or flowers? Anime girls are overrated and will look bad unless you are willing to spend significant time and effort grinding to make them look good.
>>7711477I see anons making very pretty anime girls within weeks of drawing.
Rear end quickie. Pretty high whilst making this. Will start focusing on forms during practice.
>>7711479high on what
>>7711457Please draw more chibi faces
>>7711087I dont really try any style I just draw, my art journey has been a bit of a mess of styles, i started out drawing exclusively Ponies for years, then Anime girls, then I wanted to draw like classic newgrounds style cartoony, then I started doing anatomy and learning more realistic body types so my brains a bit of a mishmash between everything im a bit of a permabeg been drawing for 10 years almost daily
>>7711455>I have gone through huston, proko , fucktons of dab, peter han.>for this >>7711474shouldve gone through loomis lol
>>7711488You think permabeg is a joke?
>>7711490yeah
>>7711492Favelachad got 5 thousand more followers in the time it took to """"""draw"""""" that head.
>>7711492Friendly reminder that this is what 14 years of drawing gets you if you dont have any talent.
>>7711492nice ET on the right
>>7711492And people will keep denying that talent is real. Even the russianfag and the funfag are better than this and they havent been drawing for more than a year.
>>7711498It's not about talent here, you can expect someone to draw something in 5 minutes and be good, he doesn't even take 10 minutes on each drawing
>>7711501Newfag. Not even the "finished" pieces come close to talented anons like favelachad.You have the talented anons like deerfag or Jona or even the monkeyfag doodle beautiful faces in minutes and they havent been drawing for a solid decade.
>>7711501Just compare it to that pedoslop that was worked on through the weekend.No talent. Hours, days for nothing.If someone being prebeg after years of drawing isnt proof of anti talent then what is it?Do you think someone this utterly fucking retarded has the same potential as the best of the best like favelafag or jona or deerfag or the russianfag? L M A OJust look at this shit. >>771149212 FUCKING YEARS
>>7711503a-also the gay guro artist is good, r-r-right
>>7711506mogs me easily. Just look at that gfucking garbage.lmaooo.do you feel etter knowing you are better than some failed abortion who cant even draw a fcukign face after fucking years of failures and everyone ridicules and humilliates?Thanks. Glad of doing a good deed. fucking serviceanimal.
>>7711503Retard, doesn't matter if SOME PEOPLE can make it fast, if you can you HAVE TO take more time with your drawings, nigga is trying to draw like he's good but he's bad, he needs to take time>>7711505What the fuck is anti talent retard
>>7711509i no longer can speak. or write.i dont want to go to work tomorrow.i dont want to wake up.i jst wanted to draw.
>>7711508I do actually, yes.i struggle heavily with self esteem so having someone quantifiably worse than I am is soothing to my aching heat
>>7711505>best of the best >favelafaglmfao>>7711511then why are you here pitybaiting instead of drawing? weirdo
>>7711512aching heart lol, aching heat is far too sexual for what I meant
>>7711422Well I tried. Pose was interesting but the way the artist draws heads is super weird.
>>7711511>i no longer can speak. or write.Well that's obviously a lie because you've spent hundreds of threads moaning about not drawing.
>>7711514I'm so tired of it. Literally every fucking thread.
Traditional vs digitalInspired by I-no from Guilty Gear
>>7711524Honestly I'd take 2 or 3 more posters like that if it meant having to avoid seeing the rancid shit others regularly post.
>>7711531 SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGER. I WANT HIM FUCKING DEAD
>>7711533
>>7711547APOCALYPSEOBLIVIONMOG
24 minutes late but happy birthday miku
>>7711558Still on time in my timezone.
>>7711079then stop sucking
>>7711288thanks champ
Does the rendering on these have any appeal?I'm trying to branch off from just cellshading.
>>7711602is that supposed to be SCP-096 woth a brown wig on?
>>7711602stick with either hatching or color shading. They way you mixed them doesn't look great
>>7711603kek, second time someone has made that comment. I'm not an SCP guy so I didn't know what that was until the other day.Let's just say he was a a femboy before twinkdeath hit him hard.>>7711604Damn, back to the drawing board.Maybe if I didn't hatch in black? idk.
>>7711602Stop trying to draw weird goon material, draw horror/uncanny art cause the stretched body proportions would be perfect for it
>7711474draw harder
>>7710998It's not realism, it's incompetence.
Is this how hampton works
i'd really hate to be the guy who says he "mogs" me rn>>7711212>>7711183absolute cinema
>>7711649you go queen slay
Total Crab Death
reffed figs. feedback and advice?>>7711129permanent silence spell funny, but I feel like the part in brackets is overexplaining the joke a bit>>7711144the self-portrait is very cool, expressive angle
>>7711579very cool hands, the one on the left have some very interesting/nice to look at lines on the pinky and ring finger>>7711394not anon but I def notice an improvement between the before and after, love the faces too>>7711659I like this. Messy but in a cool way, angular but avoids being stiff>>7711660Not good enough at drawing to have any crit but love these an inordinate amount. Especially the heels & torso on the right, very purposeful in shape & what you chose to include>>7711602I think if you want to make sexual art you should explore other forms of stylization. The very cartoon-y almost tumblr-esq faces with the long gangly bodies with very saturated colors gives whiplash (+ I think doing some studies of side profiles could help you a lot)Anywho I regret making these sketches, I regret committing myself to lining & correcting it, but I will persevere (I HATE the sketch lines.)
My school requires me to use AI to write reports now and in some assignments too. what is this shite. Is this really going to be the status quo from now on
>>7710085when're you gonna teach me how to draw?>>7710312this screams GMI
I don't know how to feel about my recent studies, I can't tell if I am getting better or worse since it's just the same fine art-esque slop for weeks, I don't even draw as much anymore. I feel stuck in a rut where I feel miserable regardless whether I draw or not.
A friend wants me to draw something for them but every sketch I've tried has been shit. They knew I'm not an artist and will never be a real artist.>why did they ask it of me?>why did I agree to it?
>>7709533very cute anon
heeey I actually found a minute to draw for fun today
>make one (1) measuring mistake>entire drawing collapses as every following measurement builds upon that mistakeOk so how the fuck do you fix this? How do I stop one mistake from destroying my drawing?
>>7711649i like how the hair came out>>7711660i dont have any feedback but i enjoy these
quick drawing before going to tell work I'm not the right person for the job >>7711692gj anon
>>7711503insane seeing myself migrate to the other side of this copypasta. wtf
>>7711503oh im flattered ;3
>>7711716awww what an adorable deer man, very nice drawings monka. really cute stuff. i love the fluffy with antlers too>>7711692my favorite by you thus far nonna. cute>>7711649came out really good>>7711547what tablet are you using? you got good at digital FAST
Hey guys, are there any experienced drawbros here?My friend draws dragon girls. He is an avid amateur artist. What do you think could be worked on in his drawings? What parts should he pay attention to and try to improve?
>>7711720hihihi thanskies >i love the fluffy with antlers toonew bf for fluffy??? XD
>>7711727Nice
finally the page is done.>>7711692shes so cute. i wanna squish her>>7711716thanks! love the spooky guy>>7711725your "friend" is doing well but drawing more confident is probably key, seems like your "friend" is chicken scratching a lot. i recommend your "friend" studies some fundies and practices confident lines. also dragon girls are based.
Hey /ic/, I’ve been posting here for a while now, but I don’t usually read through many comments. Today, I started reading more and I’d love to get your opinion on my progress. I’ve been drawing for almost 4 years now (closer to 4 than 3), and honestly, I feel like I haven’t improved much since 2024. In some ways, I feel like I’m even worse off than in 2024. Am I just destined to be a permabag for life, or is there still hope for me to improve?
>>7711773draw gay sex
>>7711773are you not happy with your current art? i didn't see any sort of experimenting there, same subjects and same style. obviously you could just be doing studies all those years and i wouldn't know, but this seems like a comfort zone issue. art journeys can basically be simplified as picking your favorite artist and trying your best to emulate them. is that what you've been doing?
>>7711759>your "friend" is doing well but drawing more confident is probably key, seems like your "friend" is chicken scratching a lot. i recommend your "friend" studies some fundies and practices confident lines. also dragon girls are based.Fundies? Whats that?What fundies did you practice and what courses did you follow to get where you are?
>>7711775Actually, I usually don't copy or rely on references. I just remember art on Instagram, and whenever something sticks in my memory, I try to incorporate it into my work. I never really did any formal study, just focused on drawing. Recently, though, I've started doing gesture drawings and watching Proko’s anatomy videos. My goal has always been to reach the skill level of a mangaka and develop a unique, personal style.
>>7711781those guys are just too vague. i do get the "i wanna be unique" angle, but art is already hard enough when you know exactly where you need to get, stagnation is basically guaranteed. just look for mangaka you really like and try to do it like them. maybe focus on a couple but if you find that difficult you can cast a wide net. as i said there's a big risk of stagnation if one does stuff the same way most of the time.
>>7711783guys is supposed to be goals.
>>7711783as a person who developed my own unique style and didn't emulate anyone, it really does take significantly longer to see progress with it. I agree with this person, although I will add the fact that you can go back and add what you want to from the style that you've emulated and learned from after. it just seems like a good way to get out of your rut and work faster, I wish I had done it because I wouldn't have been flailing around for so long
>>7711776Read the sticky its in there. Art fundamentals. There are several books and video courses etc. I sadly have to admit I didn't do much fundies besides half of vilppu's video course, a perspective book (forgot which) and some jap how to make manga books. Fundies will help. The other advice is always use references (until you can draw confidently without it) and try to critique your own work. (Overlay on the reference and check for mistakes).
>keep telling myself to start posting my drawings on Tumblr since I started drawing recently>weeks later and still havent done it and cant even explain whyBesides the obvious bullet, any cures for this autistic thing to go away?
>>7711789>Fundies are very important anon!>Only a few minutes or Vilppu and she was good to go.So it is just a matter of talent then. Alright.
>>7711783I’ll try to focus on that, but my main concern has always been less about the style and more about how visually pleasing the art looks, along with general skill>>7711785You’re probably right I'm probably going to end up finding a manga or hentai artist to study and copy
>>7711797oops i awakened the talent schizo
i mean if I'm breaking out of permabegdom anyone can lol
>>7711790>how do i do something i have no reason not to do other than doing it?Just go post your drawings bro.
>>7711812
ok now what. i am confuzed.>>7711692fairy onahole hng>>7711659looks really cool, good job anon.
>>7711803talent really is the art equivalent of broscience, only there isn't any actual science being done so you're even freer to say whatever you want and never shut the fuck up about it./ic/ might be a lot more like /fit/ than i thought...
>>7711820Retard, /fit/ has genetics which is the same as talent, some people are just born better
>>7711824yes, that's the actual science part, we can connect actual genes to muscle growth, and there are detailed studies on training methods and such. art doesn't have that.
>>7711759thanksies :3your page turned out well ;D>>7711824jeus are we really equating to how well the muscles insert to drawing now?
tried doing some life drawing stupid dumb dog baby kept moving so it was hard to get down anything that looked like him quick enoughtried some weird wine contraption my mum has had for ages, and a couple seashells
>>7711847also here is pic of dog, he demands attention too and it can be hard to draw him when he's pawing at my
Sounds about right, unironically so
>>7711853sure the sex that's color blind and unable to accurately draw breasts is totally about to draw better than women, who are literally more capable at every element of art than menlol
>>7711824No you don't understand, we're all different except for our brains and the hand we use to draw, those are identical in all human beings
>>7711855foid spottedget her boys, show her how we do things around here
little wood elf warm up
>>7711855The unfounded opinion of some random buttblasted wimin vs the reality of art across virtually all cultures and eras, I wonder what I should prefer to settle the issue.
>>7711862compare early shoujo art with early shonen art drawn by male artists, the women artists always have much stronger designs, compositions, stories, themes, drawn art, etceven some of the best stuff today, like dorohedoro, is created by women
>>7711856you're totally the smart one for going "genetics!!!" at everything you don't understand, as if we had a 20th century understanding of neuroplasticity. people have different brains, but the shit you say on here is broscience, don't kid yourself.
>>7711869>the women artists always have much stronger designs, compositions, stories, themes, drawn art, etcSource for this? Because I happen to have an opinion too.
>>7711873I didn't mention genetics, why did you mention genetics?
>>7711869Asian genes rule strong in both men and womanBut we arent talking about Asians
>>7711873People will accept that talent matters in everything but art lolArtists have the rock lee syndrome lmao
>>7710271Can you explain everything terrible about this one in an itemized list, plez?
>>7711874I feel it to be true
>>7711882It's funny because I feel the opposite.
>>7711876because those are what make brains and hands different. were you not aware of that? i suppose that makes sense.
>>7711880white board drawing with a thick pen is hard mode so it's hard to say anything
>>7711886Are you familiar with the word phenotype? Do you know twins, even those raised in the same circumstances, end up not looking absolutely identical? Also, were you not refuting the importance of genetics in determining everything we "don't understand"?
back to drawing less complex things i go
>>7711890Actually thicker lines hide "mistakes" better than thin lines, it's similar to what happens with sketches vs finished line art
>>7711890Will it actually make me better at pencil drawings or is that a parallel stream that's wasting time? My theory is I can erase it and draw something else really quickly and keeping the whiteboard by my computer means I do it a lot. It might be non-transferable though.
>>7711891what we don't understand is "why do some people appear to improve faster than others". ignoring all possible factors and jumping to genetics is retardation. said genetics that are also completely incidental to art, unlike physical attributes that were incredibly relevant to survival.
my controversial opinion is I like drawing
>>7711912Mine is that you're not very good at it
>>7711913i agree, getting there tho
Bug women are superior>>7711912Hey, you can't say that on my art-hating board
>>7711918cute bug lady. oh no.. god forbid we like drawing here ...
>>7711913seething
>>7711859i like the way the tits hangvery cute >>7711912no please, you cant just say outlandish things like that?>>7711918thats a sick design
>>7711910Ok, then again I didn't jump to genetics to explain the very observable fact of those differences in natural skill, which are called "talent". I don't care about the origin of them, but they do exist. I'd say ignoring genetics, by the way, is also retardation. I've seen the point of the hereditability of attributes crucial for survival vs those that are not being brought up regarding this point quite a few times already in /beg/. Wouldn't it make sense to have a wider range of variance in the latter vs the former? I mean you'd expect a certain baseline aptitute for, say, running, to be present in all of us because extintion was the reward for those without it.
Talent maybe not be real but anti talent sure is >>7711492
i have my favorite art style I've ever seen, i just wish I was better at putting it down. no idea how to get there
>>7711920Thank you fellow bug-appreciator>>7711923Appreciate it, I'm seeing some hollow knight inspiration in there. Soon it will consume me too on thursday.
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>>7711945can you show an example of that art style?
Very low effort for today because family is visiting
>>7711925if someone uses the word talent to mean an irremediable difference in the capability to do something, they are invoking genetics. there may be other considerations like learning things during childhood (which we aren't quite sure is that important) but if they mean something else, it isn't irremediable. save for extreme environmental factors, like losing an eye. the hereditability point makes sense, evolution's variation is weak, it is very rare for a single generation of mutation to generate something useful, running was more relevant in some environments compared to others, and humans have lived in all sorts of enviroments throughout history, this is the way to meaningfully create differences between different populations. see the bajau tribe.anyways, not that i ever hear of genetics that sound that relevant to drawing, except for generic things like having hands and eyes. obviously they exist, but the extent of their variation seems to not be that important.
>>7711973that's a shit excuse
>>7711923cute lil guys fren
>>7711976I mean I have to divide my attention between them and whatever I'm doing but sure
>>7711996>I mean>but sureDo we have a woman on here?
>>7712000Like 3 actually, lol
HERE WE GO AGAINEnjoy the ride /beg/. Women have been brought up. Its over
>>7712002we have 5 known female current posters. mangaka, monkey, birdbroad, deerfag, and the luke skywalker person
>>7711960yeah i will me occupied too then(i hopeyou will enjoy it as muchas i will)> I'm seeing some hollow knight inspiration in there.i love purevessel <3doyhou think silksong will also have its own path of pain?>>7711991thanskies frend :3handsome deerman >3
>>7712010>knownI haven't seen any timestamped pussies
>>7712008>women>talentGuaranteed replies and thread derailment, it's funny how predictable it is
>>7712010Listing them off like they're cryptids lmao>Currently 5 class-F entities inhabit our borders
>>7712010Grim.
>>7712008Women hobby/job actually btw
>>7712010One of my favorite artists here is female, but luckily barely anyone here knows she is female
>>7712044Congratulations
>>771172013" ipad pro>>7711692Your forms are so good
>>7712010>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>female
>>7712069maybe iPad pro is the path my lesser iPad is so shit for some reason
>>7712021I have but thats for me so im not sharing
>>7711965Permabegbros our response?
>>7712010none of these have a womb
>>7712093Monkeyfag is a woman (albeit bit of an ugly one) didnt save her x profile but I saw it
>>7712093>see a woman>immediately start imagining she has a penis
>>7712074It's probably not worth it unless you travel a lot tbqh
>>7712098>"see" a womanDo you even know what that word means?
>>7712099yeah I do and don't really have a PC set up just a laptop and no external monitor
>>7712102ive seen 3 of the ones listed
>>7712113post picbonus points if they have big titties
>>7712113Which ones?
This thread fucking sucks. Someone just make a new one holy fuck.
>>7712113bonus points if they are flat
yo wukonganon post your twitter I cant be arsed to go back into the archive, you had some decent muscle game and tits didnt you
you guys are such fucking losers
Since this thread seems to be on the way out or is in a chaotic mess here is this piece of shit I drew today. I couldn't focus for shit and I was meant to be doing anatomy studies but I ended up drawing a bunch of modified cutes and some very shitty stick figure type attempts before I just gave up and tried to do this study, but I ended up utterly fucking it up, I was unable to proportion the legs properly with the torso no matter how hard I tried...then I ended up scribbling like this and while it looks awful I have to admit it was somewhat satisfying and a part of me wants to sketch out anatomy like this in the future. I don't know if this even counts as a gesture or not. Can someone tell me more about this thing I just did because I am not sure if I should practice doing this or not, I just started to sorta carve the shapes out of lines until it resembled something. MY brain is frazzled, fixing your sleep pattern after years of having it fucked up does that, but at least I'll get better soon.
>>7712149what you have is a collection of scribbles indicating where you think lines should go; a bunch of suggestions. You're drawing digitally, so erase the lines you don't want to be there and show us the result.
>>7712153No. I am done for today and will try and do better for tomorrow. You brushed it off as a collection of scribbles because you just want to put someone else down when I see other talentless artists doing gestures like this. Is that the response you wanted?
>>7712153NTA and i can tell the lines are not the problem, the lines are ok even.
>>7712156I don't give a shit what you think and your failure to make an actual drawing isn't my problem. You posted in an advice thread and you got advice. You having a bad day or your desire to copy others' poor work isn't an excuse. You decided to post.
>>7712153The lines are fine, stop being retarded, maybe you can't see them? It's a wired modl
>>7712157The problem with the lines is that there are too many. It's fine to make scribbles and suggestions of an image for personal use/sketching out, but to think that what he posted is somewhere near a finished product is asinine. Here's an example of suggestions. It's an extremely rough storyboard of scenes I saw in a dream. I wrote them down to act as reminders of what I saw, so their roughness is granted. They'll be translated to proper drawings when I decide to animate them, anhd to suggest that they're anything other than rough ideas is ludacris
>>7712157>>7712161What are you doingAnon literally said himself that it's shit
New thread--------------->I don't give a fuck, I don't care about your bitching, just post work, it's really not that hard.>>7712168>>7712168>>7712168>>7712168>>7712168>>7712168
Love it when a brand new pen decides to stop working for no reason
>>7712173we're on page 5 retard
>>7712181What part of I don't give a fuck do you not understand you useless fucking faggot?
>>7712184I get you want to feel important by unnecessarily posting a new thread, but being a retarded faggot isn't helping you.inb4>b-b-but I said I don't care! Isn't that cool?
>>7712186>unnecessarilyJust kill yourself already you useless nigger.
>>7712187awwwww, look at the eternal tourist getting mad because no one cared for his scribbles
>>7712189>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL I SAY SO TO MAKE A NEW THREADLmao, we both know you don't draw, newfaggot.
>>7712191god this board fucking sucks.
>>7712210I'm sorry you and your thread derailing ilk are upset they can't shitpost on page 5 anymore. Maybe stick to the topic next time, who knows, if you trannies actually draw something people will be more incentivized to stick to one thread.Fucking faggot.
