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First new oil painting in a while.
>>7709773looks good
>>7709789Thanks. Its yours?
>>7709791Its my mspaint edit of another anons painting
I had some thoughts about stylization and realism lately. Its much easier and cheaper to find references, when your style is transformative enough, that the result does not trigger copyright laws. Its not really about the laws, its about your own perception. In my case i dont feel full ownership of my work, when i work from references i didnt produced myself. Even if i use images without copyright.I tend towards realism, but the last couple of years were very frustrating. I tried to work from internet pictures, felt bad. I tried to work from life and my own photos, but that was way to hard and limiting. I would need a stable income from my art to legitimize all the hustle.
I think when i push my proportions and colors more i could transform every ref i want into my own art. But then im afraid to end up like most artists with a meme style.
how do you organize/archive your old drawings? I have hundreds of papers I have no idea where to put them.Also, wasn't there a general about materials, papers, tools and whatnot for trad artists?
>>7709827you're worryingly low IQ
>>7710213> artistic integrity is dumbPostmodernism ruined a whole generation of artists.
>>7710221>it's the gypsylol
>>7709827>those Dishonored portraits were done from referenceFuck me, I always though those were done from imagination, now I feel lied to.Anyway, I feel the same way as you do, working from a reference someone else made, unless it's a specifically made reference sheet I only use to plan out a pose. The only time I work from reference is when it's some throwaway picture, like fanart or some shit, other time I feel like an original idea carries the picture more than just skillfully copying a photo. There's a chinese artist that does faux-trad in digital very nicely, but all of his pictures are just some chinese insta-whores repainted with trad brushes in photoshop, it's very tiring to look at
>>7710278> now I feel lied toI was disappointed as well. In the first place, because the photos are better. Maybe its the context with this American sheets, they use for prisoners. The photos are more interesting, they look wicked and sad and dumb.At the same time the photos look curated, which hints to a darker context of Nazi skull measurement and connecting ugliness to higher rates of criminality and so on.Very cool photos, they artist was able to capture some it but added nothing. Its like a mediocre translation from photo to painting.I felt similar quite often. If i have a photo thats interesting im asking myself what im even doing. The postmodern photorealism approach is not mine. I dont see the irony in larping a printed, i feel just stupid.Then i tried to paint from "bad" photos, to have room to add something. Its better, but harder (harder in a not so pleasant way) to achieve good realism.Working from life works way better for me. But there is the problem with locations. I dont really like the country im living in, at least im not really inspired by what it looks like in these days. Especially the region im living in. I feel 0 desire to paint things around me. I painted some interior, food, toothpaste and so on. Was fun. But i would prefer a naked woman or dude in a historical setting.
>>7710115> Also, wasn't there a general about materials, papers, tools and whatnot for trad artists?There normally is, if its not there make a new one.Its funny, in a perfect world there would be 0 reasons to split those two topics, but in reality the people in both have not too much in common. Material threads are mostly for nodraw consumers.Sometimes when i need infos on an ink or pen, i look it up at youtube and there are a lot of people, completely obsessed with buying colorfull ink bottles of inks and pens for hundreds of dollars and they are not artists and not even calligraphers. Just normies obsessed with pens for no reason.Actually, its often harder to find a review by an artis, rather than by a collector.
>/trad/ shittalking nodrawsLAWL
>Thread derailed in 5 posts/ic/ is fucking dead.
>>7710708>>7710659pyw
>>7710764>no work>trying to pick a fight online insteadpart and parcel of posting in a /trad/ thread
>>7710771> >no work>>7709773> First new oil painting in a while.
I have done a series of drawings with Raiden as the principle part of the composition. Here's one
>>7710777Heres 2
>>7710778I like 2 the best.
>>7710780
>>7710778pose and torso is great but the forearm looks wrong, what ref did you use
>>7710777>>7710778>>7710787butt not big enough
>>7709768pastel, this ones really small 5"x8"
>>7711799oops
>>7711802how old?
>>7711936she said she heard of limp bizkit so old enough
Acrylic makers or Alcohol makers for a beginner?How many colors should I buy?This is what I want to achieve.
>>7711936Objection! Relevance?
>>7711802that's actually pretty goodIs anybody following Colleen Barry's Patreon or Substack? Seems to be some good stuff there, would love it if somebody shared it.
>>7712148Can we go two threads without you shilling your shitty wife?
What's more easy to learn but hard to master and produces the best looking results?Gauche or watercolors?
>>7712152I discourage paying for her work, I encourage piracy. If anybody know a way around substack's paywall, please share
>>7711957Watercolor
>>7712148> Colleen BarryNot this stupid cunt again, fuck you John. I pirated your stupid course, its shit, havent even watched it...
My fault, the op picture is too faggy.
>>7712199No
>>7712222Hmm, im the trad police and i tell you to buy watercolors and not some soulless markers.
>>7712333I'm bad at mixing colors, I want to start drawing trad stuff but I want some training wheels first.
>>7712347> I'm bad at mixing colorsThats the point though.Painting is 50% mixing.Using markers i a very graphical and illustrative exercise. Nothing wrong with that, but when you really want to paint you need start mixing.Try a limited palette Zorn/Apelles or even Ultramarine and Burned Sienna or different red earth.With such a palette as long as your values are right, you cant fuck up the colors. Through the limitedness it will be harmonized in the end.
>>7712380If you can, give me good video course guides for trad painting then.
