How do I learn to get better at drawing at a more consistent pace? This not bait and I'm not hewie I've been drawing for a few years now trying to get at least some work in everyday but my pace of learning is abysmally slow and it's very apparent that I'm almost indistinguishable from a year ago skill wise.I don't want to post my work because I feel shame and also I because I post semi regularly across the chanIll do everything just, help me a little
>>7716168by drawing
That cat drawing is an example of appeal. So cute yet so simple. Really fires up the neurons. SOUL
>>7716168Best way is to draw your characters or a character you really like, and understand how to draw them really well.When failing, just see your weaknesses and hyper focus on studying very specific subject matters, all while creating. That's really all there is too it.
>>7716168By getting a mentor and getting serious about your practice and methods. Not practicing mindlessly. But with intention. The first step to getting better is being open to good critique. So, post your work. Multiple worksWhen you study. How do you study?How do you think? What are your weaknesses? Strengths? If we dont know, or if you don’t know, how do you expect to improve?
>>7716168>I don't want to post my work because I feel shame and also I because I post semi regularly across the chanBe strong anon, that mentality is what keeps you stagnant some genuine feedback on your work- while it may hurt will help you in the long run. You'll have to post your work eventually. Here's something really bad I did while experimenting with only using flat brushes to show solidarity. Posting makes me realize I can't be lazy like this and if I actually want work I need to focus and follow my process instead of playing it by ear. >I've been drawing for a few years now trying to get at least some work in everyday but my pace of learning is abysmally slow and it's very apparent that I'm almost indistinguishable from a year ago skill wise.Patience is a virtue for a reason, but if you want to be better you have to analyze what went wrong in those drawings and try to fix it and when you do fix it make sure you change you do it again for the next piece of art (then critique refine and so on). For me I find it's not being lazy and following my rule set and not settling for 'good enough' like when I made this derpy thing. Having an art goal can help too, look at someone who's a step ahead of you (not someone who's years ahead of you) and try to reach that level. That being said give me a week and I'll post a better version of this, lel.
>>7716190I've been doing that for a long time now already >>7716191>When you study. How do you study?>How do you think? What are your weaknesses? Strengths? If we dont know, or if you don’t know, how do you expect to improve?Ehh food questions....>>7716206Don't really have a goal Here is one of my more recent drawings. I picked one of my better ones to be fair.
Only draw outside your comfort zone. I'm serious. Don't waste a single stroke of your pencil on something you already know how to draw. Kill your ego dead. Resolve to suck ass in order to learn faster.
>>7716275You know what you have to doPhase I (6 months)-krenz kindergarden course (1-2months)-Dynamic sketching I & II, all excercises twice and no digital (4-6 months)-grab 1 production artbook you like (dennouh coil/ yoh yoshinari / whatever you admire) and copy it whole, (whole page composition, don’t do bits, do whole pages as you see them, force yourself to do them, lose your fear)-krenz perspective and cgma perspective-read scott robertson’s book also-when bored, do dynamic sketching excercises but in color, following the academic method (drawing, angles, shadow and light separation, edges, other values) no more than 30-1 hour full color studies, more black and white than anything elsePhase II (6months-1 year)-figure drawing -hampton course-grab a morpho books / bridgeman, do master copies from bridgeman twice -grab another artbook you like-decide to either do tenten’s course or another instructor you likePhase III- color theory - general painting theory, - anything you’d like to reinforceThere you go, do at least the 1st phase and see if you improved. That’s what I’m doing right now. Snail pace, but comfy and secureAny other anons feel free to add to this makeshift guide
>>7716289He could do all three phases in three months if he's willing to study all day like I did. I wouldn't follow a strict routine, though. It's easier to learn by working on complex projects and learning subject specific to them so as to execute properly.
>>7716289That's alot of homework...
>>7716275>Don't really have a goalWell I'd get to work on that, because if you're "Just draw"- ing you'll wander around in circles. Think about your influences, who do you want to be like? and try to capture their style for a couple of weeks. If that's too hard examine your drawing.It's a fine drawing, if it were mine and I was recreating it I would think about>how can I make it look more 3d?I know the illusion of depth is caused by overlapping forms, showing form with shadow shapes and (when it's applicable) Line weight. The head is pretty much a sphere, how can I better show it off? How can I get the form of the hair mouth's (I know it's a pokemon but I haven't played in ages) form to be shown more? How can I better show the head is in front of the mouth. Again it's a solid drawing, That would be my thought process thoRemaking work sounds like a lot but, when you know where you're going it's faster and you can plan ahead making something that would take forever be done in a couple of steps. The hardest part is changing your habits and making sure you're not falling into old ones. That's how I study and it's not pretty but it helps me a ton.
>>7716168timing your drawings and doing things in drills helps you consider time more
>>7716295I don’t think 3 minths is reasonable for all of that, when you draw sometimes you need to be slow, specially when you are a beg. You don’t need to do it fast (unless it’s line excercises for posture and lineweight) but if you did all of that in 3 months I really doubt you’d absorb knowledge properly anon…>>7716298A lot of these courses force you to draw from imagination. I don’t know if you refer to “homework” to the “studying only is also bad for you” mentality. It is a lot of homework, but to get better you need to draw every day with purpose. And courses are a way of finding goals and focus. If you do a lot of the homework and genuinely try to understand the instructors and take your time to listen to them and do. You will improve, I promise
>>7716307>if you did all of that in 3 months I really doubt you’d absorb knowledge properly anon…My bank account disagrees lol. People are so inefficient at learning. They have the wrong epistemology, to start with.
>>7716301My advice is for if you want to SEE, the improvement immediately while working on your own drawings, learning new ways to draw like the other anons say should be the majority of what you're (we're) doing. >>7716289That's a pretty intense artplan that doesn't really take emotions into account though, there are some aspects of art you're attracted to and others you're not, how will you motivate yourself to do those other ones? Distraction and resistance is a thing that will get in your way and If you don't plan for it inevitably you'll fall behind or might even abandon it all together.
>>7716168You have to look at how good artists did it and then you have to put in the work and draw. A lot.
>>7716183How many times do you need to copy Bridgman to draw like that? 10? 20?
>>7716295>>7716318anon you can't ego-post like this and not pyw
>>7716301>Think about your influences, who do you want to be like?Uhh yeah about that.... I don't have any>>7716304I take about an hour for each drawing
>>7716322Emotions into account? Yes it does. You can draw whatever you want and you must find something you admire to do the copies too. What do you mean by emotion? (This is what I have been doing to learn, I started 2 months ago btw and have a full time job) I take 3 painting classes too. A painting class (recreational one, an anime class with animators and a traditional class too. I wake up and I draw, when idling at work I draw, when getting off work I draw, I’ve been drawing a lot and improvement is very slow, it is meant to be slow btwBut this is possible, snail pace anon. I wouldn’t even measure time. You don’t need to follow my guide but I do recomend choosing a coursepath and sticking to it no matter what, even when you feel depressoDrawing for me is therapeutic, it makes me not want to kill myself and it gives me something to look forward to and I can share my art online and be happy with nice comments when people see all my effort. It really keeps me alive
>>7716724Bro, how do you even enjoy anything to such a degree? I get that maybe not every moment is pure artistic bliss (or maybe it is) but clearly there's a feirce love for the craft. I don't enjoy anything that much. I used to be good at drawing, til i was 20something, then I just didn't care any more, and now I want to reawaken that love of creating but I just can't.
>>7716749I think, doing therapy really helped me realize that rather than procrastinating all the time. I might just use that to make gifts to myself and make something that’s not necessarily productive but aomething I can see growth inEveryone’s path is different, every journey is different. There is no right answer and no need to compare yourself to others in any capacity
>>7716289>-krenz kindergarden course (1-2months)What exactly is that? What is the course called?
>>7716785Cool. I'll keep that in mind next time I have the opportunity to make use of some time for myself. Thanks.
>>7716179don't listen to stupid braindead demoralizing cunts like this. they get off on frustrating people because they have no talent. You will improve by taking a structured approach to drawing. You need to learn perspective, and then learn how to draw organic 3d forms in perspective. Then learn how to apply this to figure drawing. I will also add that you should pick an artists who's work you admire and try to imitate their style. You will learn way more than can be taught in schools by trying to emulate another artists. Even if you miss the mark you will improve drastically from this practice alone.
>>7716836>learn perspectiveYeah, this mechanical bullshit can be learned>learn how to draw organic forms in 3d perspectiveYou can "learn" the basic concept, but this is 100% you have to be able to intuit through feel. Unless you're going to be some autismo who will spend dozens of hours to produce some boring, zero appeal autosmoslop like picrel, eventually "learning" will have to be supplanted by "feeling," and if your brain doesn't kick in with the "feel," you're ngmi
>>7716836This doesn't mention learning to draw accurately so all your drawings will look like shit lol
>>7716855This is why it is so hard to take advice. Most skilled artists have the level of talent where being able to draw what one sees just seemed obvious and came naturally. I remember some years back when some beginner in an art class posted his wonky still life, obviously completely ignorant of the concept of drawing what you see, and most of the advice was people telling him to study perspective. Completely laughable.
>>7716849what are you bitching about? that drawing isn't even complex. you guys act like perspective is rocket science.
>>7716849You're just a loser. Everything mentioned is possible. You simply don't have the willpower to make a serious attempt. This has been done by thousands of people in the past and thousands more will learn these techniques and achieve success. But not you. Because you prefer to tell yourself that you cant do it when in reality you just don't have the willpower and dedication to try hard enough to do what others have done. Your entire generation is bitch made. Go generate an AI slop and stay off of /ic/.
Maybe I shouldn't have made this is thread. Maybe I should drink less as well
The style of replies indicatesHOWIE THREAD.And as usual he got a rise of an anon who gave a genuine advice.
