If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious: >>7712168
Your thread references sirs.
oh gee another naked woman doing a boring pose as the thread challenge! so hyped!
>>7716340sex
>>7716345Ok, here's something more abstract. I also have cosplay girls I can use for a different thread if you want.
>>7716345nodraw moment
>>7716345challenge
howdini fellow anime slop enjoyers!
Feel like I fumbled this foreshortening practice somewhat. I'm still not used with drawing/coloring digitally though I still quite like how it turned out
>>7716345femoid moment
actual thread challenge
>>7716356I'd suck your dick and swallow your cum for a fraction of your skills.
>>7716340we had this one already back in july
atrocious art block these last few days but I managed to slop something out today
Made this eyes wide shut looking chanmail recently. I know its not a drawing but I dont post much.
>>7716383You made the chainmail? Tell us more.
>>7716384https://warosu.org/ic/image/KuGNCjMvh4Egac0qT6aoWg
>>7716381Nice transcore anon
>>7716383>Butted Mailngmi
>>7716381its missing a bit of the whimsical faggy sovl
>>7716386Ye I make and sell chainmail been doing it for almost a year now. Copper is fun for jewelry but im branching into steel to practice historical techniques. This is the one I sold most recently. This is the piece I plan on making a copy of for practice. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/26849
>>7716384THE KING IS HERE
>>7716384He's getting better
mmm fagslop
>>7716429Oops
>>7716404>>7716417>>7716390
Wish I could draw more but I need to fix my sleep schedule
>>7716402Wow, that's pretty cool. Your model is quite handsome too. How does one get started with something like this? I assume you don't have your own forge, so where do you make them?
>>7716433>privated his accountNigga is dead.
>>7716439Hes handsome but too stupid for anything but manual labor. You can just get some wire from a supply store and wrap it around a wood or metal dowl then cut it into rings. There's a ton of guides online for it.
How can I improve the furniture texture, specially the tree trunkI have been using the square brush only, so if any of you have a good brush recommendation I would appreciate it
can this theoretically be good? it's a huge canvas it's pretty hard to paint on it
>>7716440He'll be back
>>7716384I did a redline of this image like 2 years ago
>>7716461>Somehow got worseSurreal.
>>7716476Yea I tend to do that
>>7716369Wow, too cryptic. I don’t know what you mean, but thank you.
>>7716461So... his level 2 years ago is the same as now?
Love drawing
>>7716486He quit drawing so it doesnt matter anymore.
Finished this bullshit5hrs total
>>7716493POV you're about to pee
>>7716362a challenge neither for figure and portrait.Well, I see what I can do
>>7716337Yay! I finished itThanks for the help, guys
>>7716445very nice. add some lighting and study stump.png. i didn't do it very well here but you can with low effort indicate form and texture by working in the intersection of light and shadow
>>7716486he got worse!He's proof that anti talent exists
Repostan
>>7716486He somehow managed to get worse!
>>7716486>So... his level 2 years ago is the same as now?In two years he got worse than permabeg.In one years favelachad got a patreon, 20k followers and enough money to buy a house.
>>7716339I've run out of space. Don't really have the best of gestures nor values... nor anatomy... I don't really know how to render properly to be honest.
How many hours should I dedicate a day to drawing, buddies? I'm gonna see if I start seriously next week and I don't wanna burn myself out...How many do (You) ?
>>7716539>How many do (You) ?on work from home days, 8-10 hourson office days, 2-3 hours
>>7716540pyw
>>7716541>>7716493
>>7716539I personally think it's good to have a sustainable amount of time. If you have a day where you really can't or don't want to draw, then that's OK, don't draw. But if you never want to draw, then maybe evaluate whether drawing is really the hobby you want or if you'd be happier doing something else.
spent a good 2 hours rendering the face just for it to look so bad i had to just copy on the old one from a previous draft i give up but i dont feel shame since im still pleased with how it came out. i love drawing my wife
>>7716548Whats the problem exactly? It looks uncanny so mission successfulAlso love the pose of opening up the skin like that with nothing inside, very good stuff anon
2.5 hours later
>>7716539I'm a lazy fuck so like 2h on average
>>7716549>Whats the problem exactly? capturing her essence. she may look uncanny but i want to push it even more. the shading on her face should be more exaggerated similar to the ref as well.>Also love the pose of opening up the skin like that with nothing inside, very good stuff anonty, the emptiness was my idea however the overall concept was not, credit goes to picrel that i found on pinterest.
>>7716539mostly only drawing on weekends about 2 hours sometimes more if i feel like it. Would draw daily if i didnt have other stuff to focus on rn
>>7716539I try 2 hours a day.Time truly the most scarce resource for the working man
>>7716548love your style
this was fun
>>7716539>How many hours should I dedicate a day to drawing, buddies?As much as you can and want to really. Forcing yourself to draw more than you want is a quick way to hate art. Start low, like an hour or two, but with the option to do more if you feel like it, and if you like drawing and have a consistent schedule (daily, every two days whatever), you will likely naturally start increasing it to as much as you can reasonably manage>How many do (You) ?I work full time so I only really manage 2-4 hours on weekdays. More than that on weekends, up to 8-9 hours sometimes.I did draw a lot less and not even daily for over a month due to burnout (only partially related to drawing) but I'm slowly getting more time in again
Tips on making the hand look more like a hand?
>>7716630This is the ref I used
>>7716630The ring finger needs another cross contour or two. The foreshortening in the finger should be more tapered. Remember, knuckles are your friend; they provide convenient opportunities for foreshortening cross contours. Don't be afraid to make the fingers blockier as well.
>>7716630give the fingers details, theyre not sausages they are made up of three parts. i tried, this is how far 5 min got me.
Drew a plane head from memory(left is that head plane model vilppu shilled)So how do I learn from this? Specifically adjusting the process for the missing cyanish blue between the philtrum and the masseters?
>>7716645bro accidentally drew a chimp
>>7716645and a timelapse
Plz no bully
Portrait painting How is it
>>7716537It's beautiful. You have no place in this thread lol
Since X is 50/50 Indians and pornslop artists making money, and considering I am neither (thankfully) do I just use Tumblr instead to blog/post work somewhere?
>>7716630Bro, your Hogarth reps?Don't use amateur 3D models as reference unless you're already adept at anatomy. Look at the ref pack threads and find ones with extreme angles
i love drawing clothes>>7716675tumblr works fine for me. try to ignore the cringe side of it, though. theres some weird shit on there
>>7716680that pointer finger has 4 parts to it
>>7716683the forth one is the palm
>>7716681I know I should probably just look at a YT vid but does posting there work like IG? You select an image, slap in a desc and # away or smth? Any vital things I need to keep in mind cause I literally never used the damn site
>>7716689just click create, click photo, pick the photo you want. you can add some text and tags. you can add multiple photos as well or videos. whatever you want. its pretty straightforward.
How do I find and make the line of action in a pose that's incredibly stiff and linear? For example, a symmetrical, boxy, standing person with completely even weight distribution on both legs. People tell me to avoid marking the envelope and instead trying to find the flow, but what do you do if there isn't really any flow for you to find?
>>7716690Gotcha, gonna be looking further into that
Am I the only one for whom measuring (with the pencil held straight out) is super inaccurate? I try to rely on my measurements and they're always off at least by a little bit, sometimes enough to ruin drawings. Others describe measuring as a surefire way of getting things right but it doesn't work for me.
>>7716371draw it again and see how much you improved
>>7716430Hot. Need to get back to drawing some of my own fagslop.Been too busy drawing cute anime girls for people.
both drawn same day from imagination but the second one was after studying the skull from the loomis book and some hair studies. see you guys,im going to finish studying the entire book asap and become pro at faces
>>7716339I hate how bad I am at this. Anyways, no pain no gain. Obviously tried the hardest with number 3, but it's still really bad. Redlines welcome, as any help, critics or suggestions
spamtenna and thread challenhe>>7716617very cute>>7716347>>7716339i mashed both together>>7716493nice :3>>7716537this looks really nice :3
>>7716339After destroying the girl body I felt guilty and tried to draw her face...Btw these references should take have moar pixels!
>>7716706he cute
>>7716680Sorry I am not that far. As my first book I go through Keys to drawing and I am currently doing the foreshortened body exercise. I will take your advice and draw more from real images. The next book will be loomis probably. Is Hogarth a good book for beginners?
>>7716539I'd start by trying to do 1 hour a day. Once you can keep it consistent for a month, increase the time slowly.
>>7716645bruh
>>7716667small and protruding mouth and an uncertain lightsource
>>7716721>Is Hogarth a good book for beginners?You should try it, it might stick better than others, he's giving you a system of shortcuts to build your figure out of and then fill in the details. Hogarth dynamic poses book focuses on odd angles and might fit you better than simplistic intro of Loomis. If you can go through Loomis' book and learn basic proportion canons and then move onto Bridgman/Hogarth for more dynamic poses I think you'll be fine.Just remember that these are guidelines, doesn't mean that you're going to draw like any of them, but more to steer your process through the systems they suggest
>>7716739What the fuck is thatYou massacred my baby
>>7716690I doubt you are still here anon but this is wild, I can just post something if I made it like a month or two ago? Cause I started drawing months ago and if I can just post my work in that order thats crazy lmao
>>7716739you butchered it
>>7716748im always here. post anything you want. and follow me ill follow back
>>7716739was more cute before
>>7716760Holy moggening
>>7716672I had that feeling for a fair bit now, but I still have a long way to go before I can consider myself past beg/int, until then, I wanna do the thread challenges as much as I can.
>>7716341Insectchads rise up
>>7716777She aint gonna lay her eggs in u bro
>>7716709I think in terms of gesture, 1 and 2 roughly captures the reference. My advice for this is nothing really new, just break down the figure into simple geometrical shapes for the head, torso and pelvis. Because you seem to struggle with the proportions, you should focus on observing the relative distances of those big masses. Observe carefully, that's the most important thing.
>>77167821 and 3*
>>7716780YOU SHUT YOUR MOSQUITO MOUTH!!YES SHE WILL
>>7716782I thought 3 to be the slightly better one, but yes I'm proceeding as you are suggesting even if results are not there
>>7716691A straight line?If there's no flow there's no flow line.
>>7716773You are doing great, keep up!
>>7716337Does this pose look good?
>>7716780i wish she laid eggs in me during intercourse
>>7716739why does she look so ugly now
>>7716796almost
for drawing people, right now im just doing rhythms (proko), and it doesnt look amazing...when i eventually get to topics like anatomy & other methods, does it make a huge difference in making proportional & accurate drawings of people easier?like, if feels like there are prob some general rules with drawing people and once i learn it itll click better,
>>7716825I just recently started studying anatomy, so take what I say with a huge grain of salt, but the first thing I did was train my observation skills doing bargue plates and shit like that. That will give you a really good eye for proportions and accuracy. You don't need to understand anatomy/form/perspective to capture it. Once you can break anything into shapes and contours and get basic proportions/measuring down, then you can start studying gesture and forms. I think gesture is kind of a beg trap and is more valuable for intermediate/advanced artists than us plebs.
>>7716834so this is the kind of rhythm drawing proko is having us doare you saying it kind of a trap? like, should i not spend too much time on it if what i did was sufficient enough?
>>7716839I mean, I did the whole rhythms thing for a bit too, starting with the seals and then did quick gestures as a warm up for a few weeks. I personally got very little out of it given the time investment. It really depends on your skill level.If you can already draw people accurately with proper anatomy, but your poses are stiff then gesture is what you need. The problem with most begs isn't that their poses are stiff, it's that they can't capture basic forms or see the problems with their proportions. If you want to train your observation, you need to do pretty strict observational drawing, ie trying to copy something as accurately as possible, so you can check your work. If you want to capture form, you need to practice primitives, basic perspective, and manipulating them in 3d space. Then you work your way up to capturing complex forms. I think both these exercises are infinitely more valuable for begs.
Did this on tablet and my dad sawAnyway took around 1.5 hrs
>>7716847being with parents is a massive roadblock to making it as an artist
>>7716847What did he say?
>>7716845ok, i think ill just do a few more days then move onto the next parts
>>7716859>Cute black-haired babe son. >Looks kinda like your mom
>>7716858>Having parents who will give you a roof is a massive disadvantagePampered little nigger.
>>7716858>>7716859He was pretty chill about it. He knows i watch gay porn (tfw he walked in when i was watching it) so i dont think it surprised him much
>>7716645Nigga...
>>7716649I don't know if you're trolling, but it would be highly advisable to draw the bigger shapes before the smaller ones.
>>7716645i love the Grinch
>>7716884the jim carry one?
>>7716645Why do people do this goofy shit? Drawing a purely academic reference from memory... for what reason? If you want to draw human faces then study actual humans. Use the head plane pic as a backup reference in case you get stuck in your studies.
Tried drawing this from memory.
Is this good composition?
>>7716777Silksong is shit. Too much backtracking and enemies who deal too much damage. The movement also feels zoomer coded. Your drawings are good though :)
>>7716381Are you like 16
>>7716866I think you are pampered.It's so easy to get a roof over your head. Just work a bit.Better to have a night shift at a factory than to live with your parents.
I wanna get into acrylic paints but it turns out … so hard (this is bear crayons btw not acrylic)
>>7716925This legit looks like something a billionaire would buy. Somehow you have that sauce
playing with random shit in my sketchbooks to break out of art block
>>7716892It's one of the best methods to assimilate something, either because you want to draw it from memory or just learn the (I guess in his case) main planes of the face
>>7716341It's so difficult for me eyeballing this stuff
>>7716339>>7716340>>7716341I feel like I have lost the ability to drawdoes depression affect drawing skill
and a studyreminds me of crossdressing as a grade schooler with hot topic clothes and sending pics to men like two to three times my age look
>>7716990>does depression affect drawing skillUnironically yes. Ones mental state can affect your ability to focus and therefor output. Same thing with like having a fever that makes you unable to function properly>reminds me of crossdressing as a grade schooler with hot topic clothes and sending pics to men like two to three times my age lookcould be why you are depressed but what do I know,
>>7716995I'm depressed bc I had to quit an entry level job that I couldn't handle due to mental illnessmakes me feel like a failure, plus my art being bad makes me feel worseit's good to know that depression does affect it so I can have some scapegoat for my lack of ability
Got bored real quickly with this one. About an hour and a half spend on it.
I hate Loomis. I don't understand how this is supposed to help in the slightest.Am I going about this the right way? I just copy these shitty eight head bodies until I can replicate them perfectly?
>>7717001I wouldn't call it a scapegoat. You just gotta find a way to make art that works for you and your situation. In tandem you should try and improve your well-being even if it seems hard to do so in the moment.
>>7716339
>>7717021If you don't understanding how internalizing appealing proportions is supposed to help I think you might need a new hobby. If you don't like the proportions then modify them to proportions you do like.
>>7717026Let me clarify, I am a stupid retarded piece of shit.Even this task gives me trouble. I can't simplify the bodies and keep skewering shit to the side (my figures are slanted despite everything being on flat plane).Should I just keep doing this? Or is there something more basic I'm supposed to be doing to learn? I already draw cubes and circles and shit daily.I just want to get good
>>7717021what do you not like about this process exactlyyou should be copying real bodies and not trying to make mannequins if you're a /beg/ that can't draw figures from imagination
>sibling visiting from out of town>wants to see some of my drawings>tfw most of my sketchbook is filled with gay sex, rape, torture, self harm and suicide stuff, with maybe a small handful of safe for family drawingsbleakthey're also relatively sensitive to triggers, and most of my stuff is full of them which is sad>>7717023good advice, ty
>>7717021A lot of exercises take a while to click. I remember vividly after a couple of weeks of shape studies the forms of more organic subject matter became far easier to comprehend>>7717026>If you don't understanding how internalizing appealing proportions is supposed to help I think you might need a new hobby.Unnecessarily rude. Loomis and like minded mentors are precisely difficult in the beginning because you don´t know how the knowledge in question will improve your art, especially if you´re low beg..
>>7717021>Fell for the loomis memeAnon.... honestly if you couldn't say loomis was bullshit just from seeing these proportions then that's on you.
>>7716990how can you lose something you dont have
>>7717038pyw
>>7717034>not having a bunch of sfw studies to impress the normies and 'demonstrate' your progressYou're doing it wrong anon
>>7717047i show normies my naked women drawings all the time
>>7717050As long as they aren´t fucking normies will have a tolerance for nudes in my experience. Just don´t booby scare them and warn them of nudity.
>>7716341Attempted some self-critique as well
>>7717050Oh, I do show em figure drawings as well, but never outright smut, in fact I have all the trad smut I've drawn in a secret location, never know when I might accidentally die lol
Holy fuck i'm sick of retarded designsHow do i get paid to only draw what i want
>>7717030>>7717035so I just keep doing this between drawing thinsg I actually want? I feel i'm failing to draw anything.If I try and draw deetails it just becomes more and more muddledit's frustrating
no not the hands! 1>>7716899bitches be doing 3masks damagestill love it>>7716940this is fire <3>>7717052i scare normies away with wukong tits.thatwill teach them
>>77170852please critique thehands
>>7717078I can't help but laugh at pre/beg/s being memed into starting with construction. Your division lines aren't even close to consistent. You lack observation skills and would be better served drawing for life or from reference.
speed, speed, where is the time!
I drew this girl with pierced nipples
>>7717101looks dope
Post your wips
>>7717101nice
>>7717101Fuck she's cuteGreat job anon
>>7717078Why are you freehanding measurement lines dumbass? There are grids and guides in the software you are using I guarantee.
>>7716898It's a bit static, for sex you'd want something implying more movement
>>7717135It's not sex just provocative posing. I was trying to emulate that illustration from the sayonara zetsubou sensei op.
>>7717133I wanted to test my accuracy. But I'll do that.>>7717088how long should I do that before trying to do construction? I find drawing from reference and doing things I like more fun anyways.
I tried using charcoal for the first time and focusing on the composition more, but it looks so beg
>>7717163They kind of train different things, so you can do both. Drawing from references helps improve your observation skills. Construction improves your spacial reasoning and ability to describe form with or without reference. Basic perspective study and cube/cylinders wouldn't be a bad idea to get a handle on early, but spamming reference drawing is fine until your observation skills are at the point where you can look at something and comfortably produce a sketch pretty accurately.
>>7716340Here>>7716990You probably have a burn-out. Take one day break.
>>7717078i don't know what you're trying to draw with this which is why i asked
>>7717095I feel like your poses are dynamic, and the gesture use is pretty good. Biggest critique for all your works I've seen is the anatomy and some of the proportions, like the head seems too small compared to the body. Not telling you to stop because these still look cool, just something to keep in mind for practice.
Slowly making progress. My workflow is fucked, but at least it looks kinda ok
stream of consciousness >>7717247awesome
man.. using only color pencils is a nightmare if you dont have a full color range
Doodling..
>>7717215thanks for the critique.Yes my proportions are very off. Always have been, but currently they especially are, because I have a phase where I have fun and go with my vibe. I ought to try for accuracy again, else I entrench bad habits.Anatomy wise I have no idea whatsoever. I make muscles up, though I have some idea about the neck/chest/arm area due to looking at pictures that some machines at the gym have. This is where I see most potential for improvement. I promise you: I'll spend half an hour a day on anatomy study alone... for a month. Let's see where it gets me.And don't worry about telling me to stop: nobody here could make me quit. I'm hooked and I'm in this racket for life, whether I post here, elsewhere, or nowhere. I'll always be drawing.
>>7717252this is so sex but don't be lazy with the pants details
>>7717078>so I just keep doing this between drawing thinsg I actually want?Always focus on drawing what you want. Getting stuck only practicing doesn´t work for art imo, it's not a test or a 9 to 5. Practicing and study must serve only you to make your art more fun, interesting and realized, otherwise why even fucking bother. I'm beg as shit but once I understood it's just about doing what you want and having fun doing it and getting better = more fun drawing you can get a lot more mileage out of exercises like these. So ask yourself what you want to draw, and if Loomis would help you, because if your just doing loomis fo the sake of loomis you might as well do something else for now.
>>7717163As anon suggested you should grind or study as you find the need to while working on your stuff, mindlessly grinding just because not only yields poorer results imho but it also becomes boring pretty fast
>>7717262Holy
A recent piece. Some stuff I'm proud of, some I'm not so proud of. Let me know your thoughts!
>>7717266Very psychodelic, I wonder what it looks like on acid lol, I think the values might make it difficult to "read"? Happens to me a lot too
>>7717254Based ballpoint pen chad, your lines are clean and confident with it
>>7717252Very nice, and yes they are, gradating the same pigment worked pretty nice there anyway
>>7717250She's a big girl and they are very small for being males over the age of 18.....
>>7717247Cool design, I like how the different outline hue suggests another lightsource by itself, also reminds me of a recent painting with light video by Marc Brunet because of how "dramatic" it looks, are you painting the lights?
>>7717203You should probably make sure the proportions are right during gesturing before moving on with the drawing, anon
is it true permabegschizo quit
>>7717174Oniric, like straight from a dream. What do you work with, usually? What does your normal work look like?
>>7717280nice hag
>>7717280Derp >>7717265>>7717254Interesting exercise, they came out appealing and promising in the sense that they're pretty much ready for refining which I imagine is the most difficult part of it, gj anon
>>7717250Thanks, very cute faces>>7717283Thanks. The lines are just my sketch lol, but yeah it does look like light here. I wanted to tone it down later, but maybe I'll keep it instead>are you painting the lights?I haven't seen that Marc Brunet Video yet, but I assume it's the same as what I'm doing. I started with a darker base color and then used a lighter color to paint on top of it.
>>7717250Jesus christ I'm more retarded than usual today lol >>7717292
>>7716760>Did not address any of the issues, but added epic titties (the joke is sex)Well done, you've got a great future on Patreon
>>7716339weird proportions. long torso, short legs
>>7717304You can fix her anon, in fact that's one of your roles as an artist: to fix the aesthetic mistakes you see :)
>>7717311very very cute. more
>>7717312Thank you. I have nothing left. She also wears too much bothersome stuff, so I'll never finish it.
>>7717311very punchable face
>>7717314any more drawings of yours to share?
>>7717315I didn't know what sort of expression to give her.
>>7717317Nothing I feel I'd want to particularly share here. I also don't want to drop my twitter, but you'll probably be able to find it through what I've said so far.
>>7717318What is she doing?
>>7717324Friend asked me to draw her doing this.
>>7717328eww
>>7717328crazy to see the possible ways human genetics can express itselfonly nature could create such a warped visage
>draw comics and fun meme stuff instead of just drawing from reference as a challenge>go from perma/beg/ to pre-/beg/
>>7717336amen
>>7717340I went to giga/beg/
I have a vintage eraser from 2007, a very good year for erasers I'm told. Let's see if it can erase every shitty drawing I've done in the last two months haha...
Making a Pomni sketch.
125th cringenot timed
>>7717374Better bump that canvas up to 12000x12000, king. Space is running out.
>>7717287Go ask him.
>>7717309I ... can?...
>>7716513Ty it was pretty helpful, I got the idea, so I will apply it to my next drawing
That absolutely euphoric feeling when you start progressing past the lowest rungs of begdom and start really 'seeing' stuff.. fucking amazing.
>>7717404and the best thing about it is that it just 'comes' to you, no one teaches that stuff, nor can anyone, they just give you general pointers and guides, and you somehow 'get it'. Art is really a craft that transcends all other schools in that it's felt and woven in some plane that can't be described.
>>7717404>>7717406pyw
>>7717404Just wait until you get past the beg dunning-kruger peak and enter the trenches of true despair after realizing how shallow your understanding of everything really is :)
>>7717407That's a long process but I'll see if I'm around to it>>7717408No, I got here without despair, though I see a lot of begs get hardstuck before where I am, I think I'll go forward without any despair. I'm not on a quest to be an amazing artist, I do this for fun, and always have fun doing it, not gonna let anything ruin that.
How can I make my drawing look less flat? Is it because of the shit shading?
>>7717262>>7717280holy kino, where can I keep up with this
>>7717280Raita inspired? The girl looks like Raikou.B-blog?
>>7717422Try perspective and dynamic poses.
>>7717412>omg I am so goood and the universe revealed itself to me and I have left all permabegs behind!!!!!!!>My work?! You dont need to see that silly boylmao
>>7717412>and always have fun doing it, not gonna let anything ruin that.>not gonna let anything ruin that.What a fucking pussy. Do you run away from any discomfort and challenge irl?
>>7717404>>7717412Please tell me you're the hat kid guy
>>7717280heads too small, tits too big, arms too big and long. i think the arms would look fine actually if her tits weren't ridiculously large.
I found this artist I am being mesmerized by, Demimond23.But I fear that he is way too fucking good to learn from.
FUCK this region
>>7717463Those are looking great. Why the fuck are you complaining
>>7717464Because I spent an entire day looking at a 3D model and will forget everything I’ve learned in 2 days
>>7717466post 3d model.
>>7717467https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/jkdilyf20zhonghe-1563942030084fd798a3819a66a32cd3
>>7717469Shut the fuck up you humblebragging FUCK,
>>7717471Are you dumbbbbbThat model was made by someone else
>>7717472i KNOW. I was talking about the drawings. SHUT UP YOU ARE GOOD STOP THE RETARDED OH WOE IS ME.
>>7717475Ill post the same area in two fucking days and you’ll tell me to go back to grinding
>>7717476Post anything that isnt a study fuck
I really need to flip my shit more often
>>7717480you need your eyes checked
>>7717427 ok, thank you. do you have anything to recommend to get started learning those
>>7717480Interesting idea with the breasts.
>>7717495>you, the loser( . Y . )>him, the gigachad.(___ ___).
>ctrl f>mogs me>0 results.
Scratchy sketchy late night thing
>>7717498>mogs me
>>7717500>meme arrowFake.
>>7717425>>7717426Sankyu! I've no serious blog yet but I appreciate the sentiment anon. And I love Raita's designs, one of my charas is heavily inspired by Selvaria in fact, though in this case she's just a mashup of the idea of Matoya, DC's Witch and Sonoda's style, which I was studying at the time>>7717434Yeah, her proportions are all over the place but I think that weird "fantastic" look fits the story and her role as a character
>>7717480Are you this anon? If so, nice job! The hands need a bit of work but I like her proportions and how cute and welcoming her face looks
>>7717497A new permabeg needs to take up the mantle.
>>7717502
>>7717504Aiza anon is MIA and likely killed himself. Only cyclops remains.
>>7717495>womanspreading
>>7717505You will NEVER be him.
observation study>>7716383hell yea it's the martial arts dude hope things are going well for you
>>7717512
>>7717495Yeah I was trying to go for the breasts hanging apart look>>7717504Thanks but no, I'm somewhat new here
can someone donate me money to buy schminke watercolors?
>>7717517no tools only rules
>>7717374>6000x6000 >768kBGod I love png
>>7717527it says it's 768kb but if you compress it 4chan compressed it to 260kb
>>7717517If you live in Germany I will actually, unironically donate $ for you to buy and scan pic related. I have both volumes of this treasure but scanning them will destroy em, and delivery fees to my cunt are ridiculous, like 3x the price of the books themselves.
>>7717529if you download it*
>>7717514Pretty good anon, did you use HRB exclusively? Aside from the warmness of the colors, it produces the same impression
i have what i want drawn out in krita but i have no idea how to actually finish and paint itdrawing with the pencil tool is easy enough but i have no idea where to start painting, i just want to make something nice for someone[spoiler]it's a girl i like so i wont be posting it here[/spoiler]
>>7717530That is gorgeous. I bought an expensive book some years ago becaise of lovely illustrations.
>>7716339starting a new practice sheetI will continue after sleeping
>>7717508Im not dead, just been really busy recently so havent had time to post much
>>7717530Name of the book and artist?
>>7717569Very nice expression of softness. Not even just on the anime girl, even the frog legs.
>>7717573Adrian Ludwig Richter, the book is Das Ludwig Richter Album, 2 volumes, ALL his illustrations and afaik it's not scanned anywhere yet, the thought that it might become lost media makes me believe we deserve extintion
>can draw an okay mannequin and nude body>can't draw clothing on the mannequin/body for shitthe grind never stops....
>>7717582You can try scanner apps for phones. It might be good enough to preserve the book without destroying your own copy
Okay. Enough of a break.
>>7716922Enjoy knowing all your rent money could have gone to a mortgage and not your landlord's grubby greedy pockets, then. Anon, don't listen to this guy, living with parents and saving is the play here.
>>7716337Almost finished this one. It's almost 2:00 am lol maybe I should go to sleep for the day. The only thing left is the background which I'm tempted to just leave in a void.
Ad Jd vancing
Been working on cards for a homemade tcg. Slowly improving
>>7717611First two sheets I started with
>>7717613I cast "three warehouse roll-up doors opened in one point perspective" and end my turn.
>>7716922>'s so easy to get a roof over your head. Just work a bit.>Better to have a night shift at a factoryAre we living in the same planet where most of the world is suffering from hyper inflation and skyrocketing homeownership prices?
>>7717614I destroy it with Posse and end my turnBut I'm only doing this because the board game industry is very anti-AI art even at the prototype stage. Ultimate goal is to use the prototype art to get it crowdfunded where I can pay actual artists (from here) to make the final art
>>7717613 >signing prebeg sketches
>>7717613>>7717618found the unsigned fake
>>7717618>>7717619It's uhh hidden in the grass
>>7717615>homeownership Never call someone else pampered ever again.
>>7717625fucking moron idiot never heard of renting and sharing a flat. You low IQ gamma humans sicken me. Especially combined with this confident smug grandstanding. I rarely say it, but really: touch grass I just know you are pre/beg/
Drawing this made my braincell count decrease. I am nothing but a deviantart slop artist at the end of the day. =(
>>7717503please make some kind of blog even just for wips this shit is right up my alley
>>7717655Nothing more depressing than a permabeg in taste. I hope you recover soon.
Little Sketch Is it good
>>7717673yes but align the eyes better
>>7717655ありがとう, I'm slowly working on pieces to have a stash from which to post regularly when I open one
>>7717591What a qt, this would lool great in ballpoint btw
>>7717584I like the bold lines, confident lines. Were you stylizing her after a particular artist/style? Your choices seem very deliberate and she sort of reminds me of early, pre Decarlo Archie.
>>7717673Looking good so far
>>7717610Her left hand doesn't do justice to the rest of the painting tbqh, her face especially is stunning
>>7717288Thank you. Graphite pencils usually, though I rarely finish things. Starting new drawings has more value for improvement instead of polishing one thing for a while.
>>7717708Great work anon, it seems you're using the full range of the marks the pencil is capable of. I'm on the same boat in practice because I rarely finish pieces myself lol, but as some anon said in last thread iirc finishing stuff is a skill in itself that needs a work out once in a while too
>>7717708what pencils do you use typically?
>>7717057nice trees
>>7717732Sankyu, I find em always challenging to stylize but it's a relaxing kind of challenge
>>7717725H for light sketching and then I have a couple through to 6B for the really dark areas.
>mfw I stop doing Loomis and do blockins instead.
I'm flying over to Japan tonight, I'm really anxious. I don't know if I'll keep using 4chan while I'm over there, so I might stop posting until I'm back home in a year. See you, maybe tomorrow, maybe next year. Bye
Jesus man, I've seen her work and there's literal anons itt who could do better and would probably ask less
>>7717756I think construction is primarily used if you want do draw from imagination and are unsure about the layout of things before commiting to details, if you want accuracy blockins are better. Still, building manequins from references is useful practice because it trains simplification>>7717762Good luck anon, make the most out of that experience
>>7717767yeah, but people are still paying that price for sketches. because they wouldnt be that high if nobody paid for it
>>7717767>Caring this much about comments on social media so you draw em screaming at you
>>7717767her commissions are also worse than her personal work, someone posted one they received from her in the comments
More silksong slop, gonna turn this one into a full illustration (probably)>>7716805Speak your truth brother!>>7716899For a first run I enjoy it very much, true about the zoomer coded movement but it sets it apart from the first game. Also thanks! >>7717606Sexoooo, gotta add a background man, like moss or deep docks bk
>>7717830Having a vagina really is playing on easy mode
>>7717762Last drawing before going to the airport
>>7717698Uhhhh elaborate on bottom left?
pre-bath scribblemigraine + depression + no reference equals shit, but I figured I may as well just put something on papernormally I would say something is better than nothingbut like...>>7717856very nice, it's giving aura Battler Dunbine hope your trip goes well
>>7717830Commissions are always worse than personal work because you're drawing something you don't want to draw
So the bookmarks means people are saving this piece to fap to it later, right? I don't know how to feel about that. I have never had this like to bookmark ratio.
doodles
>>7717830>$100>for thatThat might be ok if you asked xer to develop an OC for you from scratch, but otherwise that's a complete rip off. No wonder AI gained popularity.
>>7717896it should be better than your personal work, because it's a job you get paid for
>>7717924fucking a girl that wants to fuck with you it's better than fucking a prostitute
I love drawing my boy! I haven't been able to draw much recently but I can now and I'm always going to draw my boy
I just want to draw beautiful non-anime girls, but they just look lifeless at best. I also struggle with consistency and it’s like I have no control over whether or not the face will turn out good. What am I doing wrong? Do I just need to keep practicing?
Just wanted this out of CSP so I can start on something new.
Rough sketch, its super simple but I want to focus more on my basics for a bit
>>7717931looks cool>>7717927cute
>>7717939Her supporting leg isn't aligned with her center of gravity so she looks off balance.
>>7717704>Were you stylizing her after a particular artist/style?Not consciously
So can i use the same pose other artist used or i'll be called thief
>>7717993Really depends how closely you follow the ref
>>7717993>So can i use the same pose other artist usedyes>i'll be called thiefyes
>>7717993only if you are favela monkeythen you get a free pass
>>7717993There is no copyright or ownership for poses.
hollow knigga slop, come get your daily hollow knigga slop!>>7717909>>7717945i like these ;3>>7717831please do !i love silksong slop>>7717931yeah keep practicing, especially if you struggle with consistency
>>7718002Erm... there is!
Is there a way to make a screen feel more pencil-like?
>>7717422he's cute but has no butt>>7717927>80s hair>but clean shaven down below>>7717882your work is always great to see>>7717767then they are underselling their time and talents
>>7718035no there is not
best resources for animal photography references?
progress>>7717247sex
was drawing elves last month and never got a chance to post. how i do
Sketch 2>>7717954Thanks! Hopefully this looks more accurate
>>7718124Actually now that I'm comparing it side by side it doesn't look like I adjusted the leg position much. I'll keep at it lol
>>7718140Mind sharing your process?
started perspective part of proko...trying multiple times to get it accurate and then outlining it. kind of took a little bit desui def want to add more later, but am heading out for dinner
>>7718187ope, forgot to add the pic, lol
>>7718141I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I didn't use construction or a skeleton, just tried following the contours in the reference.
>>7718189RAT
>>7718191I dont recognize your choppy red lines. Have you posted here before? Pretty close copy btw.>>7718187>>7718189>Just started>Picture perfect tiled kitchen in perspectiveTalentdeniers have been very silent for a while.
>>7718200not even close to perfect, you're just retarded
>>7718205Redline it.
>>7718200>Have you posted here before? yes
>>7718219Oh its you Dollfag. The subject kinda made me think it was you but I think this is the first time I see you using a fineliner-like brush instead of the usual one and the lack of the usual doll-like eyes.Pretty close copy. I see that the brush seems to lack pressure or anything. Just a square tip and fine lines.Really changes your whole output.What are you trying to do?
>>7717703My ballpoint practice is giving me some good rewards in digital at times. I changed back from my Huion to my smaller wacom because I spent two weeks in trad and got annoyed when I came back to holding that hyper big kamvas 13 pen. Why are these so big anyway?Also, I think one of reasons that I feel bad at drawing hands is that I'm starting to think the real ones ugly, or at least I don't feel attracted to them really. Idk man. I want to make cute hands but I'm still so unsafe at structure...>>7718189I'm relatively sure I saw this image before. Are you using any ref for this?
I can't figure out the elbow muscles, I'm so tired of it, I won't want to draw until I learn all the anatomy and draping
did another pre-bath drawing, this time a study. I think it turned out mostly ok. his right foot looks a bit big and awkward and the hair could be refined but it's better than everything else I've done lately so I'll count it as a win
>>7717254More doodles, not so good this time. >>7717276>>7717292Thanks>>7717296So I guess the compliment wasn't for me u.u )
A little more progress on my side project.
>>7718233>beg
>>7718220Inktober is less than a month away, and I want to finish it this time, but I'm way too slow when drawing with a brush with opacity and pressure sensitivity, so I'm practicing with the fineliner one. So far I do seem to be faster with it.And now for something completely different.
>>7718243>Inktober>Digital.
>>7718243shota rape wtf
i think im going to just keep adding random details over time, lol >>7718222no, i just did it from imagination (slightly inspired by my own kitchen)
>>7718100that's really cute
feel like I'm lacking the passion or drive to make thingsjust want to lay down and rot
Finished that Pomni sketch. I had to resize it because the canvas was too big for 4chan.
>>7718308how old are you and which learning disabilities do you have
>>7718260I'll do lolitober, the inktober inspired event that consists of drawing everyday for a month. I'm practicing with the fineliner to get faster because while I can be more accurate with the pencil brush, it takes me longer to draw with it.>>7718261loli, actually >>>/b/939466393
>>7718310Is this permabegschizo? I'm already mogging you. Get down on your knees and blow me.
>>7718314no I'm just poking fun desu, we're all at different places in our journeys and far be it from me to judge others when I'm lacking in skillI just dislike digital circus bc it's made by a soulless pornsick man who clearly gets off on abusing women
>>7718312IS THAT A
Can clean this up a bit but I'm happy with it. Literally been drawing like utter dogshit this week
Knight
>>7716339Critique and advice welcome
>>7717535Just for the studies, yes I use HRB only. I flip the canvas upside-down (occasionally flipping back) and try to match the values/shapes as well as I can.
Another sketch for this project, for some reason drinking helps me a bit with 3d forms>>7718380Work a bit on proportions, the torso is too large compared to the pelvis and legs.
>>7718396you're right, that's what i noticed.. but even the model kinda looks like that, still i get this mistake a lot - legs too short. even in this drawing i redraw the legs several times to make them longer. I think 3-4 body portraits later I will hopefully have much better proportions especially in respect to the length of the legs to the torso.
what the fuck happened to the right cheek
>>7718461>not recognizing the signs and symptoms of a stroke
enough frills
>>7716430Line art of varying quality
I hate anatomy so much it's unreal I hate anatomy so much it's unreal I hate anatomy so much it's unreal
I feel shameful about giving up on art for 2 months. having no improvement whatsoever
>>7718314>>7718308THERE GOES MY HERO
>>7717681eyes ain't aligned irl... nothing is symmetrical
>>7718530what a charming lesbian
>>7718530Really nice job on this. I really like the shading. Something that’s helped me is doing tiny adjustments with the transform tool it takes like 5 seconds, and I think you could benefit from it picrel is just an example. idk what style youre going for.
Hand hurt
>>7718523I have done this quite often in this past 2 years of semi-serious art study. I've noticed that I get a little bit better after a long break though. It is quite rough to get back into the habit but it's always quite nice to notice how different you were compared to before, until the next burn out and the cycle repeats itself.
>>7718570...
Ok
>>7718549Thanks! I used liquefy here ^^
>>7718316Grovel harder and Howie might spare you his ire, peasant.
>>7718041there are textured screen protectors designed for drawing displaysfelt nibs also give you a bit more texture
>>7718099i just use Pinterest and Flickr albums
Even when accompanied with an anatomy book, it's still quite a challenge to visualise in my head how the muscles would twist and turn in space and what sort of form it will take on. I guess this will improve with time and experience?
>>7717875I think I was going for a cheating whore who matched with a profile with a massive dick as its only pic, and as it ended up being a friend of her son, they created this duo of costumed sex freaks personas to revel in their debauchery hiding in plain sight, so to speak lolI must say it was clearly inspired by Koutarou's Mama Cos manga
>>7716337I feel like starting over.
>>7718684Aside from just drawing from life, buy one of those statuettes with half skin half bare muscle (actually 2, male and female if you can), they're very useful as visual and tactile reference
>>7718705It looks pretty good already anon, how long did it take you so far?
>>7718708About a day, anon. I want to make the post a bit more dynamic, would probably redraw her standing or remove the table to at least show feet
Spent about two hours on this /beg/ scribble. Drew a pose from memory and then tried to adapt Tsunade features over it by using a ref of her in a different posture. End result is not great but I had fun.
>>7718706oh god they look horrendous, but I suppose that would be helpful. Thanks. I gave up with this study precisely because I just cannot visualise the 3d form of the back muscle. This is one of the reasons why my proportions and perspective is always off, I don't know how to make the torso, arms and pelvis as a cohesive structure. I think once I make it a lot more intuitive then I'll have a stronger fundamentals.
>>7716337rete my head drawings i follow manga for beginners to get a grip on drawing
>>7718871頑張った! That's a great learning resource imo, Yuyu Kouhara's art is so beautiful, just keep trying until you're satisfied with the results anon
>>7718871>most basic construction style possible not even worth critiquing >4th grade math problem scribbled on page for seemingly no reason>eyedropper selected even though he only draws in pure blackThis image gets stranger the more I look at it.
I don't understand the anatomy of elbows, it's annoying, while the happy ones on Twitter draw beautifully and receive praise from themselves and others
>>7718461You could make the most racist caricatures of Obama right fucking now.>>7718701Brother I need you to get a handle right now. I have had too many artists disappear from 4chan.
>>>/b/939491663I wish I knew how to paint. >>7718318a ramus, indeed, and not just any ramus, but the Garland herself
>>7718871>>7718915the long haired girl is a perfect waifu i literally just picked up this book and i try to replicate it step by stepi see that the biggest problem will be muscule training so i can draw straight lines>>7718928>most basic construction style possible not even worth critiquingoh no someone is LEARNING ? omg i'm going insane!!!also post your work>4th grade math problem scribbled on page for seemingly no reasoni used krita's measure tool on head from reference and it was ~84 to 115 pixels s0 8/12 or 4-6 or 2/3so the proportions of head is roughly 2 width to 3 heighti then looked up in the internet and turns out it was true but i figured it out myself firstalso pyw>eyedropper selected even though he only draws in pure blackwhen you take a pic with share x you need to press ctrl and it happens to be eyedropper in kritaso yeah pywalso next pic
>>7718991Hmm, no, I don't think I'll take orders from someone struggling to draw an oval and having a meltie over nothing. Keep posting your work though.
bonk
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>>7718519how nice
some more shoddy animal studiesgesture is still the bane of my existence
Some anons recommended me to use Tumblr and its surprisingly cozy but am I meant to make up a #mynameblog as a tag in order to make it easy to always filter my original uploads from reblogs? I just want a tidy blog to a degree for my work
>>7719112If your blog name isn't too generic that would work. It may have changed since I last used it but something to keep in mind is that only the first five tags you use will show up in search results so if you want people to see your posts make sure to use your search tags first and then add any organizational tags after.
>>7719118I see, well mine isnt generic so it would workSo: >sketch>drawing practice>anime drawing>cute anime girl oc>myblognameCorrect?
Yo.
where do i go from here? color it or start something new?
Trying that cognitive drawing thing
>>7719242>Trying that cognitive drawing thingWhat the fuck are you doing
Yaaaaaay I did itIncest!