Are there mangaka who started drawing late (mid 20s). I need some hopefuel to keep me going. Also probably a solid plan.
No, you don't need hopefuel. You need to draw. I know what you're thinking, anon. Your brain is looking for an excuse not to draw. But I'm afraid you just need to draw.
>>7720264I get overcome with extreme anxiety, and feel I've fallen wayy to behind others
>>7720265None of that shit matters. Trust me as an old fag. Jesus, you're a kid. You should just be living and creating stuff. You won't even remember your anxieties in ten years. All you'll have is the work you've made and the life you've lived.
>>7720265You're always behind, you were behind on walking when you walked. Drawing (skill) is what filters people like you.
>>7720265>>7720259FUCK OFF GABE
>>7720259If you need "hopefuel" to draw, you are genuinely not going to make it. Every good artist loves to do what they do.
>>7720259>Are there mangaka who started drawing late (mid 20s).Blue Giant mangaka started at 29.>https://tokion.jp/en/2021/02/26/shinichi-ishizuka-creative-expression/
>>7720288>Every good artist loves to do what they doCorrect, and the greatest artists of all time hate their art with a burning passion.
>>7720318To be fair, the man had other problems.>Wood was married three times. His first marriage was to artist Tatjana Wood, who later did extensive work as a comic-book colorist. Their marriage ended in the late 1960s. His second marriage, to Marilyn Silver, also ended in divorce.[5]>For much of his adult life, Wood had chronic, unexplainable headaches. In the 1970s, following bouts with alcoholism, Wood had kidney failure. A stroke in 1978 caused a loss of vision in one eye. Faced with declining health and career prospects, he shot and killed himself in Los Angeles on November 2, 1981.[1][5] Toward the end of his life, an embittered Wood would say, according to one biography, "If I had it all to do over again, I'd cut off my hands."[58]
>>7720259why do you want to be a 3d tracer/photobasher that passes 99% of the work off to assistants that drag and drop clipstudio/blender assets in and do all the rendering for you? just go do paint over instathots with bug eyes for twitter at that point if you dont care abou tlearning how to draw.
>>7720265Was this you?
>>7720389how would you even begin to fix this?
>>7720400If you're that person, there's no fixing it on your own. Best you can do is take your meds, disconnect your social media, force yourself to walk an hour a day, and only use analog media until your brain reaches a calmer baseline. Then build in your hobbies and structure a routine for yourself. This is basically what a professional would do if they could control their patient. If you're trying to help someone like this? Fuck. People like this (intentionally or not) are emotional vampires. They stopped caring about shit a long time ago and the most joy they get is from when people try and help them. Without an institution behind you, there's not a whole lot one could do, like at all. You can give advice, they'll ignore it. Unless you're comfortable physically taking control of the person's life, best to just make sure they aren't self harming or hyper focusing (such as this reddit post) and just hope they do the self work.
>>7720400get love and support from a girlfriend
>>7720389im probably gonna end up like this very soon if i dont get my shit together.
>>7720512stop trying to finish pieces and start doodling.
You are not going to make it, there's people that started at 40 and didn't need reassurance, they just did it. Unless your doubts are drawing related and not stupid things like talent, age, how many years it takes, needing to get good in 6 months then you can still make it, unfortunately for you, you asked the doubt of telltale NGMIs worldwide.
>>7720360I draw manga and I don't do any of that. Why are you lying?
>>7720259Imagine you're going to die tomorrow. Pointless worries that get in the way dissolve. If you could take one memory with you after death, would it be about regrets? No, you'd think that'd be stupid. So just get on with doing your potential.
it's pretty rare as manga industry in Japan is an actual job so most people there start working as assistants out of college or high school
The longer you think about it, the more you're gonna look back and wonder "what if?"
>>7721448story of my 20s (almost 25) and have seen people far behind me surpass me and become uncatchable
>>7720259
>>7720259I honestly don't see a point in pursuing comics/manga as anything other than a hobby unless you live in Japan. Comics are dead in the US unless you want to draw capeshit. I guess France and maybe Italy are possibly viable but even their industries don't compare to Japan's, and Korea and China are 99.9% phone format web comic slop.
>>77202591. Learn Japanese.2. Enroll in a Japanese art school.3. Keep submitting oneshots to newcomer’s awards.4. Get published.5. Get an assistant job recommended by your editor.6. Make a youtube channel “gaijin mangaka”.7. kys
>>7721470>https://animecorner.me/elfen-lied-creator-laments-his-failure-to-become-a-master-artist/> What’s important for improving your drawing skill isn’t the time period you’ve drawn for, but whether or not you like drawing. Therefore, those who want to become master artists but think drawing pictures is a hassle will never become master artists. Myself included.> I once saw my assistant who was insanely good at drawing, doodling in their sketchbook during work breaks, and thought there’s no way I can win against the kind of freak who draws pictures even during breaks from drawing job work.
>>7720259sui ishida was high-beg at 24 when he started Tokyo ghoul, im sure you'll be alright >>7720265
>>772176724 is late?
>>7721796ancient
>>7721796its never late
>>7721713brvtal thrvke
>>7721919white+blackpill, the first graypill
>>7721713I guess I'll never be good at anything. I enjoyed nothing in life.Only Star Craft 2 and sex.
>>7721595>as anything other than a hobby unless you live in Japan.You don't need to live in japan to work in japan.>>7721945Master. Not get good at. The assistant in the story wasn't just good, they were "insanely good". You don't need to be "insanly good" to succeed, the elfen lied guy is the one being interviewed and not this random insanely good assistant.
>>7722050>You don't need to be "insanly good" to succeedHis art is literally Fujimoto tier bro
>>7722291Did you even read the passage you quoted? Like I said, you ----> DON'T <---- need to be insanely good to succeed.And Lynn just sucks. At least Fujimoto has strong composition, Lynns stuff is just readable and that's it, no real strong points.
>>7720265Buy cheap paperBuy cheap penDraw with cheap paper on cheap pen so you don't feel bad about bad drawings
>>7720400What I did is I forced myself to draw. Its painful but you have to swallow your pride. Also, there first thing you'll learn is that head knowledge AINT WORTH SHIT if you lack the ability to actually apply it. You can watch all the YouTube fundies you like but you have to practice DOING and not just watching
>>7720259Just draw your manga. The story is way more important than the art. There are plenty of successful mangaka with beg art. Eiichiro Oda, Hajime Isayama, Koyoharu Gotouge, Tatsuki Fujimoto, Gege Akutami, just to name a few. Besides, you can always improve. Berserk started with beg art and then evolved into the pinnacle of art in manga.
>>7722670>Eiichiro Oda, Hajime Isayama, Koyoharu Gotouge, Tatsuki Fujimoto, Gege AkutamiOne of those is not like the other
>>7720265I had that problem, the thing is nobody really cares if you suck now and no one will ever care. People only pay attention to you when you're good. Also drawing in your mid 20s is absolutely nothing there are plenty of people that started even later than that. Just do the math if you're 28 in 20 years you'll be 48 if you did art and made your shit during those 20 years you'll be pretty close to your heroes , you'll realize there's no "Best" only specific things that artists are known for and if you fuck it up even still and started at 48 you have another good 15 years worst case scenario. You're fine.
>>7722713Thank you brother I will start my journey to draw good
>>7722743*goodlyMaybe you need to start your journey to write goodly like me , anon.
>>7720400>how would you even begin to fix this?Drugs. Specifically nicotine and caffeine and give this person a goal of making a certain amount of bad drawings a day to change his goal incentives. The first will get you addicted to drawing by batching those together and the second will show him sometimes good drawings pop out but most the time they're bad until a process is put in place.
