>>7720994
Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/))
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration

>>7720997
Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

>>7721000
/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9
(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos
Ganmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Don't be a crab
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effort posts that help you for posterity.

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Today I have decided that there will be sexo in my manga. Why restrain yourself? It's only one life...

>>7721025
What makes you think it's a matter of restraining yourself, and not just a matter of what's appropriate for the work itself?

>>7721025
If you post furry porn I will kill you.

>>7721028
Well because I *was* restraining myself about it. I wanted the story to be SFWA, hoping it could go appeal to a broader public without being problematic. But I guess I'd rather go wild with it.

>>7721030
Lol. Don't worry. You'll only see it years from now.

>>7721032
Oh okay.

>>7721032
SFW*

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>>7721025
based
you can always make an SFW version for the website(s) you upload too if it has issues with the stuff depicted in your work and then have a page where you mentioned to the reader that he can read the uncensored version in your social media or something like that
that's what I plan on doing
I think pic related, which is just a pair of breasts, not even sexual, should be fine but maybe i'll have to draw a different version where there's cloth over it since we live in the age of bending over to please the advertiser where bug people youtubers have replaced words like "rape" with grape or "porn" with corn to appease their gods and they do it with a straight face, trying to not think about how ridiculous, sad and humiliating it is

>>7721054
>your middle panel
Reminds me of SHODAN.
>maybe i'll have to draw a different version where there's cloth over it
As somebody who already had to go through the censorship olympics, this is the result you will get:
Webtoons: Censored and it has to look super natural like it was always meant to look that way. No fast censors allowed. Don't even think of trying to compromise or even slightly bending the rules or else they will consider taking you off the entire site altogether regardless of how you are viewing. All of the above rules are immediately thrown out the window if you are popular enough to sign up your work as a Webtoon Original (but then its also no longer your own work in terms of ownership).
Tapas: Simple black boxes allowed if you don't want to draw cloth on top.
MPC: Same as Tapas.
INKR: You can do whatever but your comic will not appear on the mobile app.
Namicomi: Same as INKR.
GlobalComix: Doesn't care no matter what you do, will show up on mobile app.
Mangadraft: Same as GlobalComix except they don't have a mobile app.

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>fighting game in development
>Webtoon partnership
>Animation in the works
Holy shit.. living the dream while we struggle in the mud...

/mmg/ I need help coping with something.
I feel like I shoudn't write manga, I'm a selfish person who can only write selfish and uninteresting characters. I feel like I'm not creating stories I should be proud of, I'm just connecting dots randomly.
I don't know if this is a question or just a vent post. can I kill myself and upload the webm here?

>>7721233
Yeah, but would I trade that for being black?
That's an easy, No.

>>7721252
You can write selfish characters. On of my favorite shows was Always Sunny. It's about terrible people.
You are a terrible person. You can write terrible people. Just make them suffer a little

>>7721252
>I feel like I'm not creating stories I should be proud of, I'm just connecting dots randomly.
Study writing, read more stories, and try to understand the structure behind them. What makes them interesting? Write it down and do something similar. Reading writing tutorials also helps to get a gras of this.

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mangaplus sent me an email saying they privated a bunch of my chapters for breaking TOS, even though some of them have been there for years.

The rule they supposedly broke was "hate speech" so I'm a complete loss at wtf they mean. This is the worst page I can think of. I don't really care anyways, I wouldn't change anything even if I knew what the issue was.

>>7721265
>Always Sunny
It's a funny show, but I don't want to make something like that. I don't I have the self-awareness to make comedy out of my shortcomings either, I don't write terrible characters on purpose, it's only when I'm rereading my work that I realize my characters are assholes.

>>7721278
They probably saw you posting here.

>>7721278
That's odd. I just got a message on Pixiv saying my account was suspended for unusual activity, but that was clearly a phishing message. Did your stuff actually get privated?
>>7721315
He hasn't posted here in forever, I thought he was dead.

>>7721278
i would say mangaplus are notoriously pozzed but all of these websites are. its the risk you take for publishing on some dump hosting site. id rather host on my own website and advertise

>>7721278
It always amazes me that websites have the capacity to police every page, panel and word of anyones comic, but somehow can never specifically explain what the issue is
Kind of like how games are pulled from storefronts for vague reasons and the publishers are never given a straight answer as to which content was objectionable

>>7721233
>avg 7k views per video consistently
That's also pretty impressive itself. Dude really is making moves while crabs here seethe.

>>7721446
>crabs
>plural
It's one guy.

>>7721315
I thought 4chan didnt sell your data...
>>7721321
>>7721445
yeah, they took down 5 chapters for seemingly 5 different reasons. I think they use AI to scan the text bubbles for bad words, thats the only explanation I got

>tfw struggling to come up with a story for hentai
>>7721473
AI confused hatchmarks for zillions of swastikas and banned you for being giga Hitler

>>7721478
artists used to be able to do shit like and slip penises in past the editors, but of course AI ruins another good thing

>>7721473
>think they use AI to scan the text bubbles for bad words
If thats the case, then my comic should have long been taken down already for having a single exclamation of "bitch" in there.

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you've really gotta throw away friendships dont you to make it? I spend all my night drawing after work, but my friends and family often pull me out saying "you've gotta socialise, your dedicated enough its fine to have fun", but I feel like shit now, instead of getting any work done i just did meaningless stuff with my friends, and wasted the little time ive got

>>7721116
interesting
thanks for the write up, I'm sure ill have to go through the same hurdles
>>7721278
hmmmm I wonder how they go about detecting such things
is there no way to submit those chapters for a manual review?

>>7721523
Yeah, pretty much. This is the kind of work that demands some pretty major sacrifices to get anywhere in. A social life is among those sacrifices, and probably a few bridges along with it. You should strongly consider what you want more.

>>7721531
yeah i gotta listen to people who actually made it too, friends and family are like, yeah your doing enough itll be fine, but none of them have made it where i wanna be, theyve all got cushy jobs, and watch tv all night

>>7721534
I think I've made it further than most. I'd say I've only managed to get published because I didn't try to keep a social life. But again, it's a pretty serious thing to lack any sort of social life as an adult. You really really should consider whether comics (doing them as your profession anyway) are more important to you than having anybody around you, because there's a good chance that if you pursue one you won't manage to keep the other.

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Are you guys with drawing good interiors? I'm starting to think that the trick is to just add as much stuff in it as you can.

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What’s stopping some of you anons from banding together to form a CLAMP-style manga group?

>>7721572
Cause as much as I love you guys I prefer to work alone

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>>7721025
It's a gift and a curse. If I had refrained from sex, drugs, cults and other NSFW topics when making Oi, and made it an all ages story instead. It would probably have a bigger audience and sell more. It now basically exists as a commercial to sell porn commissions of the waifus. It's not the worst thing in the world but if you want people to focus on your story instead, don't make the fanservice and sex scenes too prominent like I did.

>>7721572
Wildly different skill levels and tastes

>>7721572
Anons can only come together to create amazing things once every 5+ planet syzygy. Its exceedingly rare, because most anons live in different time zones, have different tastes, and wildly different work ethics. Which is also why its usually a 1 and done thing, and never multiple projects.

>>7721525
From what I read online, people dont get responses when they ask for more details. But I'm seeing people getting flagged for hatespeech in their comic summary which makes even less sense.

>>7721578
Link to your manga?

>>7721630
Maybe it's like copyright strikes in that literally anyone can submit a complaint/report with no proof or credentials and the host just automatically takes it down at the slightest push, and someone is out there trolling

>>7721561
I like how those two few black shapes on the character draw the viewer's eye, while the rest of the panel's detail is kept in check by the fact that it's mostly in fine outline.

>>7721633
then that would mean someone read it and was driven to troll me.... which I'll consider a win

>>7721561
>Abril

>>7721572
>difference in skill levels
>difference in where they want the story to go or how a panel should be shown or what is said
>trying to get artists to work together is already like herding cats, let alone them also being anons
>no guarantee somebody doesn't just go 100% radio silent and now you're down a member and do you keep going? what if said gone member returns and doesn't like what's done and throws a fit?
>insanely different time zones, everyone here is scattered throughout virtually every single continent barring Africa
Could it happen? Sure. Is it likely to happen? No, you have a better chance of winning the jackpot at a casino.

That said, assuming somehow things would work (emphasis on somehow), who would I want to work with in a team? For me I'd pick Altarusia and Scandinavian-anon, I like their ideas and I think I could gel with them.

>>7721278
Btw a lot of those manga sites are very clique based. So either you are in, or you will get bullied out.
Honestly, all it takes is triggering some turbo autist and they will harass you until the end of time.

>>7721572
CLAMP worked because they all met in person and worked in person.
Remote teamwork is a near impossible task

>>7721639
>or you will get bullied out.
Lmao how does that even happen, how do you get bullied out of a comic posting site

>>7721647
see
>>7721633

>>7721650
is this real or just a schizo theory? Why wouldn't the whole comic be taken down?

>>7721671
Why is everything "schizo" to you?

>>7721675
what do you mean by everything? Are you following my posts? STOP TRACKING ME

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>>7721561
I used to really hate drawing interiors but now it's super calming to me. Just add little details here and there, think about what would make the scene look lived in, etc.

>>7721631
https://namicomi.com/en/title/ufQC7cAD/oi-tales-of-bardic-fury

>>7721578
If I really include sex scenes it would just be a sporadic thing the characters do sometimes. So I guess it's fine.

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>>7721698
The issue I have with interiors is that my mind just goes completely blank when coming up with things to add in the scenery. I just can't do it from imagination and have to look up real life references.

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>>7721887
I don't know how interiors look in BR, but round here molding is a thing.

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>>7721888
Pic related is inside a spaceship. I had no clue what to do with the walls and I didn't want to just add generic wall panels and sockets, though it would have been better if I had just done that instead. One day I'm going to set aside some time to work on that kitchen and all the other rooms of the spaceship. Concept arts and etc. I know I' still far from it, but I want to get on the same level as picrel.

>>7721887
>y. I just can't do it from imagination and have to look up real life references.
using reference is good, either way if you really dont want to you should think about "function"
basically, if your scene depicts a kitchen, what would people need in a kitchen for it to be usable? you've got a fridge, a sink, a work surface and a trash can, but where's the oven? stovetop? how about a microwave or a toaster or general cooking appliances? i think the place would very much also benefit from storage space, unless the 3 people exclusively eat stuff that can be had straight off the fridge you also wanna add cabinets and baskets for stuff like rice, bread, pasta, dried beans etc
and its not just purely usable stuff, wouldnt there be a window to let in some natural light? maybe some paintings in the walls or some sorta decorative pattern, some hooks or ledges for ppl to hang hand towels n oven mitts and other stuff like that too, you gotta populate spaces thinking about how ppl will be in there

>>7721887
Also
>1.25mb
That's way too big for what you have pictured

>>7721901
The window is where the "camera" is. As for the rest, it really didn't even cross my mind and I only thought of it after the page was done. That's what I'm talking about. I just suck at this stuff.

>>7721903
I know. I gotta learn how to compress my drawings. They're all like that.

>>7721887
>can't do it from imagination and have to look up real life references
Vilppu fucking forbid that an artist look up reference material when making a comic so that it is presented in a believable manner to the reader.

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My neet days may end soon so I will have to pause Altarusia for indeterminate time; tomorrow I will know. The odds are really favorable but I got so many "no" that I totally lost my faith and expectations. Well, lets see what will happen.

>>7721957
As an adult, I kinda expected myself to be able to come up with a believable environment without having to look it up. But I guess I was wrong. Seems like that even this is something that requires practice.

>>7721962
>ut I got so many "no"
You mean from publishers? Same, I'm a dumb reject it seems

>>7721970
>You mean from publishers?
Job applications kek. Comic is a hobby I started when I was uneployed after covid pandemy

>>7721976
*during pandemy

>>7721898
Doesnt NASA have like a shit ton of vids of their astronauts goofing around in their satellites and ships and such? Just try to incorporate elements of that into your drawings, not necessarily copy 1 to 1 but think of what you can use to add flourishes

>>7721898
Who cares about being original? You need to set a baseline, if it's basic metal panel walls then start there. If you're going to use a reference, don't just leave out aspects because you think they're boring, as it stands the setting says nothing. If your goal is to make it look like a spaceship then prioritize that. Also, doodle.

>>7721967
I know that feel, but you need to use reference. Drawing is unnatural and nobody can draw without reference. The people who can draw without reference, mastered using references.

You should be making models of the common rooms in your comic so you can keep track of the layout.

>>7721887
main things: corners make it look like a normal room in a normal house. There is ZERO wasted space on a spaceship because that shit is gonna be expensive as fuck. That's also why you can have the walls be kinda weird and shaped 'randomly' because we can assume there's machinery on the other side of the wall that's more important than aesthetically pleasing interior space. Now, think removable panels in order to access said machinery easily. And for those, written markings on the wall. Look at airplanes for inspiration for that. Don't forget vents, you have to pump air and heat into every room in the ship because that stuff isn't there for free like on earth.
It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to look like it makes enough sense. At least that's my thoughts, but I've never drawn a spaceship interior before.

>>7721910
For one thing, a for a monochrome image like that export as a png is a lot more efficient.

>>7721962
Would you possibly be able to work on the weekends (assuming you wanted to)?

>>7721976
That's good news tho, means you can work on your comics some more.

>>7721993
>Who cares about being original?
I do. It would be nice if I could come up with my own design. Something fresh. But the sci-fi genre has been going on for ages, and the generic spaceship design survived for a reason. It's instantly recognizable and it works. I should have stuck with it. But I am stubborn, and I will still try doing something different when I revisit those rooms.

>>7722041
By the time I finished that page I was already tired of it, and just wanted to call it done. I knew the kitchen looked too empty, and nothing about it resembled a spaceship, but I just told myself "I can redraw it some other time" and left it as it was.

>>7722055
In terms of what looks like a spaceship, you can bend the rules a bit depending on the setting. Lets look at some existing IP for spaceships that look a bit unique:
>40k
Everything there is crazy. The Imperiums ships look like giant flying cathedrals and also look like that on the inside. You have sleek Eldar ships, and weird bug-like organic ships of the Tyrannids.
>Alien
Anything from HR Giger works here. Really cool take on organic ships. Look up the Space Jockey.
>Warframe
The Grineer have advanced tech but everything is weirdly lumpy and bulbousy but it works.

>>7722055
You have too high expectations for your own art. Practice more fundies and study more of your favorite comic authors' styles, it'll help you draw what you want faster and easier. For now just draw everything "good enough" while you study.

>>7722055
When you start to live in reality you realize there's no "original" just people building off of ideas done in the past... and people do not mind it. If you ever have to elevator pitch something chances are you're going to have to name a popular franchise but with your twist that makes it different.

>>7722087
>You have too high expectations for your own art.
Of course I do. The art is meant to be an important part of this story. It won't have the same impact if it looks like shit... I have to get better. Anyways, thanks everyone. It's always nice talking to you guys. All lf this makes me want to try harder.

>>7722095
>When you start to live in reality you realize there's no "original" just people building off of ideas done in the past
That's not really true. Sure, everyone steals but some people are really good at stealing and mixing it with their own ideas. There are many pioneers who may get inspired by old stuff but bring it into a new context. Star Wars for example may have been heavily inspired by Kurosawa, but it still turned it into something totally different.

>>7722378
Star Wars draws a lot more from old space/Sci-Fi serials, and it is basically identical to those, though.

That being said, people really do get hung up on trying to reinvent the wheel when it comes to story creation. Chances are, if you are making something, you were heavily inspired by something else to begin with. Its weird that people act shameful about doing something similar to what other people have done.

>>7722384
>Star Wars draws a lot more from old space/Sci-Fi serials, and it is basically identical to those, though.
one path to success is to blatantly copy something people don't watch anymore.

Haven't had much motivation to draw since I can't market at all and have been stuck for over a year now. I'm thinking just revisiting my old material and redrawing it is probably a simple way for me to get back into practice.

>>7722447
Repackaging old things to a new audience, yeah.

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>>7722928
Your comic was absolutely made to be recreated as a point and click adventure game like Sam and Max or Grim Fandango.

>>7722937
Thanks! yeah that's why I called the puppet character Grim, he's based on Manny Calavera.
Lots of video games was my inspiration, like Oddworld or Full pipe

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13 chapters in to my manga and finally the end is in sight. Trying to finish it by the end of the year. feelsgood

>>7722937
thats what I've been saying, this art is timeless

>>7722928
SOVL.

I don't want to let go of the chapter where a pathetic minor villain goes on his own little adventure after he got defeated by the heroes. But it will kill the pacing.

>>7723175
Do it at an aside like an omake.

>>7722937
>Pornanon: Erotic visual novel (duh)
>Altarusia: Dark souls, Darkest Dungeon
>Jack Money or that Witch sisters comic: Point and click
>Scandinavian anon: jrpg or crpg
>Oswald: Platformer or something crazy like Fall Guys
>Aecast: ifbits the girls then crpg or something like darkest dungeon, otherwise hexen/heretic
>Galknights: classic bioware, anywhere from nevereinter nights 1 to mass effect 1
>Mondays forecast: visual novel I think or first person horror game like those chillas art horror games
>spaceship anon with the furry girl: something like quasimorph or ftl but more emphasis on roleplaying

I wanna make a hentai manga about a guy with a vagina and a girl with a penis (and a knot), omegaverse style shit... But I don't think the fujo/yume crowd would like it, neither the male coomer side. It's joever. I should stick to yaoi comic doujins.

>>7723198
Maybe you should rethink your life

>>7723198
Maybe just make futa porn instead. Guy with vagina appeals to basically nobody.
>>7723195
I'd play these.

>>7723195
I actually worked on a point and click game. Am I that predictable?

>>7723240
I actually didn't know that - I didn't think you were predictable, its just that its hard to showcase your stories some other way in my mind. Wasn't trying to pigeon-hole you, lol.

>>7722928
How many pages do you draw per week? Impressive

>>7722931
Your manga looks so comfy to read. Where are you posting your pages?

>>7720994
Why does op pic looks like zach hadel persona.

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My D drive died and with it all my stuff, gonna try and scrounge and recover what i can but eh, clean slate;

>>7723353
>doesnt have backups
Bro.

>>7723353
Stay strong bro. While trying to backup my files, I overrode the new files with the old files instead. I lost all the work I had spent the entire day doing. So fucking stupid.

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>>7723365
No problem Erin from the hit webcomic Critical Miss

>>7723369
I thought her name was White Korra lol.

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There's a lot of action in this next chapter, but yet again I underestimate how many pages it will take.

>>7723519
Same. I'm a slacker and procrastinator so my stupid brain always tries to tell me "it's not that much work, you can put it off later. you've done enough today"

FUCK this lazy ass brain

>>7721278
Blog update: After looking online it seems people had this happen to them randomly too and its probably just troll bots flagging everythings. So I just "edited" the flagged chapters by changing nothing and they went back to normal after a day.

So it was a big nothing and MPC is still a shit site with no security whatsoever.

>>7723353
>not backing up your files on a dozen flash drives

ngmi

>>7723272
it's very inconsistent, but 3 pages on a good week.
it's funny, I both study and work half time currently, but I make the most out of the little time I have for my comic. But when I had lots of spare time I was slacking hard, thinking I'd get around to drawing eventually, suddenly an entire month could go by with nothing done.
>>7723277
https://moonliver.cfw.me/

>>7723569
Anon I am begging you, please upload to more sites than just Webtoons and Comicfury lol.

>>7723640
I showcase my stuff on reddit, instagram and X.
I might also upload to Globalcomix if it's simple enough

>character A and B are fighting in a plane and their fight causes the plane to crash. There's a huge explosion, during which character B appears in a single panel to say something important. They both survive and continue fighting after getting up.
or
>character B grabs the fuck out of character A, jumps out of the plane and character A gets a moment to use her superpowers in a creative way to avoid being slammed headfirst into the ground. Then they continue fighting. The explosion of the crashed plane happens in the background. The important dialog will have to be saved for later.

Which is cooler? I can't decide.

>>7723740
Both sound like a family guy chicken fight skit

>>7723641
>Globalcomix
It's very easy to use, yes.

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>>7721578
>>7721631

>>7723879
the most obnoxious thing about this is the unnecessary arrows
it's not like anyone was gonna read it bottom to top, anon

whatever you do, don't feed your manga synopsis into an ai just to experience someone talking about your manga. This shit is like 1000 times stronger than crack.

>>7724022
Ask it to hate on it.

>>7723879
Wtf

>>7724022
I don't think it would work for me. Everyone except people suffering from chatgpt syndrome knows its just a perpetual hugbox of toxic positivity and that getting it to be critical or mean is like trying to pull teeth. Besides, I've read a lot of fellow anons comics here and there's almost always something thats neat about them that I like.
>>7724076
If memory serves that is not Oi's own work, but another anon's. I remember that thread.

>>7724022
Lol. Anon I already SHOWED ChatGPT my pages, and I also showed him the script to another story I have in mind. I did it so much I grew bored of it. Don't worry, you'll be fine.

>>7723569
I've been reading through it man. I like it. It's very well done. One of the few anons who could make it.

>>7723195
I'd actually like Oswald to be a tactical RPG like makai kingdom or phantom brave. Alternatively, an isometric puzzle platfromer like solstice would be rad.

>>7723569
Good job bro, keep it up.

>>7723879
thanks for reminding me why I dont post my work here

>>7724095
>One of the few anons who could make it.
W-w-w-who else..... D:
>>7724113
>isometric puzzle platfromer like solstice
Ok that I can definitely see.

>>7724145
Well, you don't have any work to post anyway so we'll call it a wash.

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>>7724390
run along back to /b/ faggot the adults are working on actual art. tell the blacked general i said hi

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>>7724392
funny as fuck yea get his ass

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What do you guys make of sex appeal / sexual fanservice in manga?

>>7724433
Don't particularly like mean-spirited stuff like this (ryona) but I like cute/fun/playful ecchi/fanservice. My manga has plenty of it anyway.

>>7724433
whats the source

>>7724433
Shit authors default to because their already uninteresting stories would be even more uninteresting

>>7724456
It's in the image. Read nigga.

>>7724433
I'd rather draw my characters getting married and having children.

>>7724528
no it fucking isnt

>>7724433
I love fanservice but stuff like this is firmly in "holy shit just make it an ugly bastard hentai already, stop beating around the bush" territory for me.

>>7724433
I hate how hard it is to find drawn ryona references

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>>7724685
>drawn ryona references
>drawn
NGMI.

>>7724433
I like fan service when it's more sparse.
A nice panty shot or changing scene is much sexier to me than straight up nudity or hentai.

The only thing I don't really like is implied sex.

>>7724433
i don't care in general, when it's the main appeal it's a positive, when it's an addition to what's supposed to be a real story it's. overdone scenes like the pervert bringing up peeping on the women's bath or the MC walking in as a girl is changing are firmly in obnoxious territory though.

>>7724433
If it fits the tone and is integrated into the setting / characters it's great.
If it's a random "beach / onsen episode" in an otherwise serious story, it's stupid.

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tried something different with the paneling, what do you guys think?
does it work?

>>7724433
I will use the original Ranma 1/2 as an example
>nabiki tendo wearing a nice swimsuit
>ranma in girl form getting out of a bath
Very good, come on in.
>it's a happosai episode where the entire point of the episode is how many sex crimes he can magically get away with in one episode while the entire rest of Japan suddenly comes down with "guess we can't do anything oh well" syndrome for the next 24 minutes
Absolutely not. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
Absolutely not.

>>7725037
Top left looks good because it molds to the architecture in your large panel, like you intended.
Im not so sure about the 2nd panel though.

>>7724145
You never post drawings here, you always come and show random images of that character called Dana that you probably stole from the real author.

>>7724433
Objectifying women is good, they are animals
Making fun of women is also good

most of my inspiration is unrealistic stuff for the time being. what one-shots do you anons like?

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>>7725112
based

Honestly other writers I consider them just charlatans. Specially people who work for western comics. This people really get paid for their awful writing ?

>>7725112
t. incel

>>7725207
???

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>>7724433
>tfw you take a break from your comic to do some pointless fanservice

>>7725107
good to see the /ic/ terminal online eceleb hallucinations still going strong

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Hows my first chapter read?

https://imgur.com/a/wealth-toil-work-progress-first-chapter-9ucpQ1J#

Love any critiques and thoughts on it. I'm gonna go back over and redo some of the art (especially some of the stuff in the middle), but thats once Ive finished this arc

I started doing alot more practise and study towards the last 15 pages as I didnt like how my art was going, and I think theres improvement in the last bit of pages, so I'm probably just gonna practise for a few weeks, and do some short stories, to try and improve my art before doing the second chapter, and try to mix in more studies cause I was getting a page done a day towards the middle (I work fulltime too), but I think the art doesnt look the best there

>>7725207
most "writers" are the stereotypical redditor who writes like shadiversity. Artists that also write will mog them every time, because artists make the prose fit the art and actually use color and composition in their words.

>>7724022
I send it a few chapters of something I wrote a year ago, it gives interesting feedback to chew on but it's not really useful because it has no feel for pacing/how good something is at hooking you, which IMO is what's more important than anything else.

>>7725433
I think the setup for the story is pretty interesting, I felt invested and wanted to see what happens next, you did a good job with the dialogue for the main characters as well, i thought i would hate them at first but you managed to show their good sides as well.
The art is quite messy but I thought the panels were still readable 90% if the time, there was a few shots I had to take a second look at to understand, if you slow down and try to clean up your artwork I bit I think it would improve.
The crosshatching on the characters faces are hastily done, try making shorter strokes and follow the shape of the character.

Just keep at it, make more pages and alternate with a few studies when you can, and look at other comic artists you like and try to understand their process, look at how they make environments and what they highlight vs shade in the panel.

>>7725433
well you got me to read to the end of it so pretty good i'd say. that douchey face at the end of page 12 is great lol
agree with the other anon about the hatching feeling very rushed in places tho

Is doing one coloured page a day with art as complicated as average manga a bad pace to be at?

>>7726049
extremely good at least compared to most artists. Alot of western artists do 20 a month, and they're only doing penciling, inking or coloring. mangakas got alot of assistances to help them out

>>7726049
one page a day is insane pace, colored or uncolored.

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The thing that mostly motivates me to make a manga is the idea of using it as a form of catharsis. Passing down my problems to my characters. If I stopped being unhappy, I'm not sure I'd keep doing this

>>7726139
weekly manga artists do like 3.5 per day. granted that's with assistants and an insane schedule. one a day by yourself is pretty good, i think that's what most mangaka would be at if they worked solo. of course it also depends on the art quality.

its not really about how many pages, but how many hours you work. An amateur drawing ten hours a day is still working as hard as a pro working ten hours a day, they're both really good pace even if the pro can maybe get 1 and a half or 2 pages out.

>>7726484
Man, an artist with more than 1 assistant might as well just be the author. If there are 2, i doubt they do much other than drawing characters and the lineart.

>>7726543
It makes me appreciate the anons here in /mmg/ all the more. Everybody is doing every single role by themselves. Even the 2-3 anons who have editors doesnt change the fact that those anons still had to make something to edit in the first place.

>>7724433
Is this hentai or just ecchi? The art is great

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I did it traditionally, then scanned it and added textures in Clip Studio. It's probably twice as much work as just doing it full digitally, but at least it's a fun experiment
It still doesn't look very presentable, but it's a start

>>7726968
Very cute artwork, is it posted anywhere?

>>7726543
but that's exactly what they do. at least that's what I remember from murata's streams specifically.

>>7726543
Here's the thing: even just inking the characters and lineart is most of the work.
Consider an author who hires 3 assistants to help with the grunt work:
One assistant is given most of the background work. They can't draw fast enough to draw every background though.
One assistant is given all the effects to draw, things like speed lines and focus lines.
One assistant is the tone guy and applies all the tones.
The author still has to write the thing, do all the designs and storyboards and sketches, ink all the non-background element characters, speech bubbles and some of the backgrounds. They still need to make sure the sketches are clear enough that another person can understand what they're supposed to be inking rather than just sketching for themselves to ink, along with providing instructions for the screentoning. All of this is still the majority of the work and the author's visual style is generally left intact, especially so if the background artist is capable of matching the author's style to some degree. All it is is taking some of the parts that require next to no creative input and paying somebody else to do them. What you're left with is still a fucktonne of work. It's still nowhere near a position where "you might as well just be the author". Assistants really aren't a silver bullet, and they actually end up creating some work when inevitably an instruction was misunderstood or left partially unfinished and you have to go in and correct it.

>>7727084
sounds like you're underestimating assistants, thinking they're just robots that doesn't do more than one thing. three assistants would cost more and probably wouldn't be worth, not that i have data how many they hire these days. Honestly bakuman is probably outdated now in digital era. Plenty just add csp assets as background. I don't know where you got the bullshit info up your ass.

>>7727089
>I don't know where you got the bullshit info up your ass.
By having assistants. Where did you get your info? Your imagination?

>>7727129
that's even worse if it's true

>>7726975
thanks!! I'm not very active, but you can find me as LynYellow anywhere

>>7727162
Very cute art, why don't you draw more comics of your goat character?

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>>7727201
I-It's a sheep.
Well, I don't have many ideas yet, and I'm still new to comics. I'll try to make short comics with my characters and then move on to something more complex, like oneshots, to get into a rhythm I think I've managed to do something I like the look of, so I'll try to be more consistent

>>7727248
Sorry, it def looks like a sheep, it just didn't register in my brain. Simple comics like slice of life would be great to start with. It's a very cute art style and that alone can carry a lot.

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hi mmg, question, is changing layer property to Tone in CSP the standard practice? what are other ways i can do tones? i thought i would have to download assets for that at first. and what is this weird effect when zooming

The next issue of anon jump is coming soon.
If you have something that wasn't posted in this thread or the last, do so.

>>7727371
It's how I do all my tones.
You could add each individual tone material in manually.
That effect is called Moire (mwah-ray). It's just a rendering issue with patterns of small dots. Happens in real life too, if you see, say, a mesh door from a certain distance it has a similar weirdness. Anyway it doesn't matter on the project file, but you should check to make sure the moire isn't too bad with your export settings, and if it is you might want to tweak stuff until it isn't.

>>7727396
kino incoming

the masculine urge to add "if you're inspired by fujimoto don't read any of my works"

>>7727462
thinking of this, can you have success being a contrarian, hating on other artist or it's a fast way to fall to irrelevancy and never climb back again.

>>7727462
>>7727463
its a fast track to having your own work excessively scrutinized and compared to whoever you hate on and more, and anything meaningful you try to create will be overshadowed by your reputation of being a dramawhore asshole; that being said, what is it with normie artists and sucking off fujimoto? every second newgen basedslinger and slopsketcher you see nowadays has some derivative poorly cloned csm art and writing style, plus that one magazine competition that got posted awhile back where the one of the judges complained about too many fujimoto clones. Do people flock to his works because it appeals to the pretentious concept of 'meaningful' shonen? or is it just retards being retarded?

>>7727462
Its tempting but theres no use antagonizing retards on the internet. You're just painting a target on your back. Let bygones be bygones.

>>7727494
I have a feeling it exploded in popularity in certain countries that make up the majority of the internet. It was a lot of peoples first actual manga and the cool action and relateable MC just hit the right spots. The art being shit isn't really an issue, in fact that makes it more inspiring for young artists because it makes fujimoto look more human and reachable.

>>7727494
His art is easily to emulate, honestly hoping a youtuber with balls cover how tiring his "style" actually is. Boring same panels with no variety in gestures, easy tone/shadings, bad writing, if you can't write just make it random!!!! and deconstruction!!!!
Let's see the slop inspired by it:
MAD, Hamita, Menkui, i see also other inspired by it in other amateur collabs like us.
>>7727503
yeah i see all his works on comic shop everytime.

>>7727508
firepunch and csm part 1 was okay. I don't know why people emulate his bad aspects instead, stupidity.

>>7727494
It's because his work is good and inspires people. You might not like it but it's the truth.

what do you guys think of Beastars art? I really like the simplicity

Outside of manga, anyone who draws comics/semi realistic or w/e. How do you decide on a characters face/head/physical appearance? I for the life of me can not come up with different character looks/not sure how I should go about it.

Should I just take people I know/famous people and slightly alter them up a bit?

>>7727462
you have beef with someone that doesn't even know you

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I don't remember where I read this but is it true that chapter covers and one-shot covers count as part of the page count?
In general I can find lots of advice about tankoubon covers but not much for chapter/one-shot covers and it's kind of irking me.
Pls help

>>7727632
yea why not? some even rip the whole design. see dmc3 lady/julie volkova or solid snake/snake plissken

>>7727494
>writing style
What's the gist of fujimoto's stuff? I kinda don't want to read it

>>7727903
Solid snake looks nothing like plissken. The name was all that was taken

>>7727944
iroquis plissken looks more like him. but that's a totally different character so you're right

>>7727944
Solid liquid naked whatever. He was clearly ripped from Plissken

>>7727944
cope

>>7727907
If you want to know then read his work and find out. Don't judge somebody's work based on some second-hand recount of it.

>>7727715
yes, that's like saying you don't have beef with AI content so you should just do nothing ?

>>7727994
>>7727964
>>7727956
You're wrong, just take the L. The only physical thing they have in common is brown hair and blue eyes. SS didn't even have a fucking eyepatch until 4, the original art for him on the MSX and NES copied Michael Biehn from The Terminator, not even Kurt Russell.

It's a name reference, not a character design copy as >>7727903
this dumbass asserted.

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>>7728059
Oh you mean the game before Shinkawa had anything to do with it and Konami just hired some no name to trace that still?
Well you got me good.
I wonder why Kojima didn't stick with that as art and graphics improved?

You go ahead and tell me who Snake resembles more.

>>7727632
I personally look up actors who have played characters similar to the ones in the script (if the script itself isn't specific), usually collate 2-3 samples, draw a few studies and pick what elements of their faces/build I like to composite into a final design.

But personally I hate doing too much setup work, and find I only really get to know how a character truly looks and acts after I've drawn them across several pages

>>7721523
Unfortunately yes. I ruined one of my first relationships because I couldn't balance doing comics full-time and having a social life. A lot learned since on how to better use my time, but at the end of the day if you wanna do it proper then you have to be okay with the hermit life. Luckily I have a partner that's also an artist and works from home, but I still keep the balance in check and try to set aside at least one day a week away from the desk (unless I'm balls to the wall with a deadline like I am right now and working 10hrs a day non stop)

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>>7728068
Shinkawa didn't copy Russell anyway, he said in an interview his version of Snake was based on Christopher Walken of all people.

But why don't YOU use your eyeballs for once instead of just parroting shit. You're one of those idiots who gets twisted when he sees the word BLUE written in red letters.

>>7727632
I design my characters right on the page when they need an expression for that moment. So a page can end up taking days if I'm stuck on a design.

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>39 views on twitter
I need to find a new place to post, apart from that, I think the result turned out cute

>>7728181
Alright nigga I'll follow you, despite my disdain for furries. Link me.
And yeah, twitter isn't peak for manga.

>>7728181
You should go to blusky :^)

>>7728193
this is actually good advice

>>7727722
It does if you are taking your project to a printing company, they care about your cover actually being page 1 and shit like that. If you need to find out how that works you need to go straight to printing services online.
I know Mixam has a feature where before you make a purchase to print your own book there show you a digital approximation of what the book would be like, so you can just """"purchase""""" a hypothetical book and just throw what pages you got at it and see how it would print before you actually confirm your purchase.

>>7727371
what I do to deal with moire is to when I'm finsihed the piece, put a tiny gaussian blur then export as 75%

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sick of overthinking my magnum opus so i'm just gonna make yonkoma for now. here's my first one

>>7720994
Dingle, are you working on a new submission for Mugen Tensei?

>>7728193
Okay, just a few hours ago I sat down to do it. I should also translate my manga into Japanese and upload them to Pixiv. Is that a good idea?

>>7728181
The text is too small. Usually manga text is bigger

>>7728232
75%? Of what size canvas?

>>7728309
Right now I'm taking a break. I will in a month or two though.

>>7723569
you gotta search optimize your pages bro

>>7728361
>search optimize your pages
Explain.

>>7728458
https://www.thingsinsquares.com/blog/how-to-optimize-comics-for-google-search/

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>>7728181
Try posting bits of panels and not the whole thing. Since the page uses a lot of panels, the art gets too small, and people scrolling will glaze over the cute art.

>>7728358
usually 3kx3k but it varies since I'm doing individual pictures or one page comics rather than one long piece rn

>>7728601
Anything over 2k pixels in either dimension is too big. It'll simply be resized by whatever host site you're posting it on, or people will only look at the thumbnail because it enlarges too big.

>>7728610
oh I was saying my starting canvas size. interesting point tho. I guess I'm ending up slightly over the 2k mark
I haven't had moire issues with my method though, which was my main concern

>>7728358
This might sound like a stupid question but I'll ask, when you submitted your work, did you submit it uncensored? Since Mugen Tensei is very heavy on censorship with their light sabers, I wonder what you feel about your works being censored like that? Considering drawing all the genitalia must've been time consuming... Also, do you plan to release a tankoubon in the future?

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>>7728357
>>7728519
Larger text and biggest panels, and also split the pages in half?
Okeey!I will remember it

>>7728847
cant wait... this thread needs to go faster

>>7728652
>oh I was saying my starting canvas size
Yes. 75% of 3000 is 2250.

>>7728723
The author doesn't need to censor their work, that's the publisher's job. You send it to them uncensored.
>I wonder what you feel about your works being censored like that?
Doesn't bother me, I knew what I was signing up for. The lightsabers are only for the magazine anyway.
>Also, do you plan to release a tankoubon in the future?
Yep, tankoubon is coming. Think they're releasing it sometime in November. I believe they normally wait 3 months after the physical release to release the digital version, so you'll likely see it on the internet in early 2026.

>>7728181
>39 views
More than any of my comics ever get, so I'd say that's still a good start

I'm looking for a reasonably priced doujin printer in Tokyo that will deal with foreigners.. any tips?

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I have to add one last page and finish some details on this one

>>7729343
Please don't tell me you're trying to print your shit in Tokyo then have it exported back to your third world country lmao

>>7729343
And a doujin printer based in Tokyo will do....... what, exactly, that a (genuinely) professional printer in your country can't do? At the very least give a printer like Mixam a quick call, they're international and present in at least six different countries. And even if you or anybody else is in someplace like South America, there has to be another professional printer SOMEWHERE in the entire continent.

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>>7729346
It has been so long since I last posted this.

>>7729346
is this like a 'how to draw manga' thing?

>>7728059
>>7728079

>The only physical thing they have in common is brown hair and blue eyes
> Snake was based on Christopher Walken of all people

I think the most striking symptom of high functioning autism is the total lack of lateral thinking.
They compare fixed attributes like eye color or a face and then discard any possible relation between 2 things.

Snake resembles Plissken, any difference is probably meant to distract from that fact.

Does anyone here actually read Western Manga? I was considering getting this one called Crossing Borders but all I can do is seethe because they are doing what I can't

>>7724433
fan service is in truth artist service.
I am sure I have more fun drawing women than people looking at them.
I personally dislike reading manga with a lot of sex appeal, but I sure would enjoy drawing it.

>>7729804
Show me better then, post youre art to teach me what Im doing wrong.

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>>7729346
I love this little panel so much

>>7729855
>But people judge whether they look good or bad!!
That anon was judging the muscles.
But you were only posting a draft, right?
I like the composition, but especially the guy on the lower left panel who thinks he's cool looks kinda wonky. And the hands...

>>7729842
>the differences between the faces are only meant to make them different! That still means they are the same
You are faceblind AND retarded.

>>7729855
Sorry for the typos was typing one handed.

>>7729845
Plenty of amateurs are pretty good. /mmg/ just sucks, full of people who belongs to /co/ if anything. Don't know what's the obsession of making a manga when you are not even emulating the style.

>>7729845
All of the ones I've read are shit

>>7729936
>Don't know what's the obsession of making a manga when you are not even emulating the style
What makes you think that the people not emulating the style are obsessed with manga?

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Time is short but at least I could finish this page

>>7730068
nice!

>>7729936
Most peoples are here looks manga-like, who are the outliners here? Top 5 worst artists here, name and shame them and we’ll bully them to /co/ and whittle down our numbers to 2-3

>>7730068
Very cool, is that the start of your story?

>>7730081
It's the end actually

>>7730083
That can't be the end. She can't die like that.

>>7730083
>>7730134
https://youtu.be/hoKluzn07eQ?list=RDhoKluzn07eQ&t=152

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last 12 pages of chapter 2 sketched and ready to ink
>https://imgur.com/a/pq9zHFD

>>7731017
Moon-anon, I have followed your comic since you started posting it here and I like it a lot. However, whenever reading I can't help shake the feeling like there's always an in-between panel or two that is missing when you convey X doing Y thing. Like I'm playing a song on a CD that is skipping slightly ever so often. The whole song is played, but when the skips are added together it feels like 10 seconds are missing. Either way keep it up dude, love your work.

>>7731144
>I can't help shake the feeling like there's always an in-between panel or two that is missing when you convey X doing Y thing
yeah I can see what you mean, I don't really read through my own work front to back, which I should.
Or get someone to read through my sketches and give input, but it's hard to get people interested in doing that.
Though general pacing might get better with experience also.

Anyway, for the next chapter I will be more considerate, so thank you!

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>>7720994
found a nice website that host stock assets for manga making. speed lines, manpu, background effects etc.

https://mangasozai.com/

>>7731372
How very interesting. Like going to an industrial warehouse open specificslly for contractors. Very nice find, I'll have to go through this in-depth later.

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Been busy irl, so I'm not getting that much drawing done but I've had more time to plan and design which is cool.

>>7731776
Nice hatching and grass-work, the other stuff is good too but not enough credit is given to doing these small as fuck annoying details

>>7731372
I like this idea but am disappointed that most of them are just radial lines

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How do I avoid this?

>>7731817
A lot of people don't understand color theory, complementary colors, or sometimes just how individual characters look standing next to each other.

how am I supposed to feel when I see a shitty comic being discussed by people when nobody cares about mine? like come on lol, why can't I be lucky, why do I have to get better before I deserve to be seen when others dont

>>7731840
have you considered being deeply mentally ill and delusional? And that you can't judge your own work and the work of others?
many such cases...

>>7731840
Tons of professional looking art out there that barely has any views.
Also /ic/ is shit, just go to social media and shill your work.
Nobody cares here just people who can't even draw anime girls, some guy posted his comic and already good enough. And nobody cares!

>>7731780
Ty, Grass is fun to do. Plus you can always chuck in some rocks if you don't feel like rendering any more.

>>7731817
>full of aura.
I'm really starting to get sick of hearing about aura.

>>7731821
Bad advice

>>7731817
The truth is real life often clashes and you can't colour coordinate reality. Batman looks good in gothum but one you start taking him out to space/day time / metropolis he looks out of place.

I would consider not giving you character an "outfit" at all at change is clothing for different scenarios. It will help you colour coordinate better.

>>7731867
>who can't even draw anime girls
>implying this is easy
dunning kruger?

>>7721887
Stop trying to think in images. Do first principles thinking instead, break the subject down into its most basic principles, functions, and components. What are the components of a room? Walls, ceiling, floors. How are they fitted together? Is there molding to cover the corners? What materials are they made of? What furniture is there? What shape should the furniture be (organic, angular?), what materials are they made of? Is the room clean? Messy, in between?
Think of something as simple as a chair. What is its anatomy? Leg(s), a seat, sometimes a backrest, sometimes armrests. Its bones can be made of wood, metal, plastic, it can have cushioning on the seat, back, or arms made of various materials. Some of them can recline and have a leg rest. Start with the platonic ideal of the thing and then think of ways that you can modify it. It's like playing ad-lib, fill in the blanks of the questions and you can come up with nearly anything. It's like procedural generation in a way. You likely learned how to draw the human body like that, especially if you can draw them from imagination to some degree- you know the parts and their functions so you can draw them without explicitly needing to copy a reference, you can even draw things that don't exist by modifying that idea.
As it is right now, you're basically just stopping at the platonic ideal of what a room is, a bare featureless box of four walls. Ask yourself more questions and you might surprise yourself with how much you could come up with.

>>7731921
Dude, you can literally use AI for this.

>>7724433
ooh, BOIOIOIOING, heh-heh, hn-heh

>>7731926
You can literally go kill yourself right now. Just do it. Nothing's stopping you.

>>7731776
Some of the best work I've seen here. Can I read this somewhere?

>>7731817
Lizard Shaman in Goblin Slayer was such a disappointment for me. To my eye everything about him screams he has red colored skin, maybe orange. Then you see him in color and he's like a turquoise/blue. Complete whiplash.

>>7731844
>>7731867
I meant people discussing it on other sites, not the stuff on /mmg/. I was crashing out at some ugly manwha being talked about but I'm over it now.

It takes a long time to design a room but you can reuse the layout from then on and save time by showing it in different angles. In every big manga they have assistants doing the backgrounds anyways so its not even one guy.

>>7732378
Life is not a meritocracy. Networking and nepotism are much more effective avenues for success than quality or effort.

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lets say you have a perfect comic, perfect manga, all finished, where would you post it to grab traction? i think its harder than ever to market or push your work out there, its like hitting the lottery.

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>>7731840
webcomics that pantomime manga are the only things that get tons of comments. that being said those comments are completely useless besides stroking your micro cock so if thats what you want just make a carbon copy of any trash on the front page of webtoons

>>7732414
Those read more like bots than anything.

>>7732411
You just have to constantly keep shilling it on any/every platform that you can tolerate anon. At least unlike the lottery you have free tries. Plus its not like you are publishing everything at once, you are playing the long game.
And in a hypothetical where you do have everything perfect just pitch it to book companies at this point. Long shot I know but everything is online anyway so doing it is free at least.

>>7732411
value comes from scarcity. the cultural decline is
parallel with the rampant deluge of media the easier it becomes to make it. traffic does not correlates with the quality of your work so most end up needing to game the system. buying ads, mass tagging, optimizing for google's search algorithms, ladder climbing, collaborating, parasitically working on other more famous peoples projects. you name it, theyve done it

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>>7731894
>Bad advice


...What? I never even GAVE advice. I just said most people don't understand colors. You're creating a visual product, and you want the colors to be as attractive as possible that draw the eye.

Complementing colors is like, aesthetics 101. Its all about marketability. Look at sports team logos, or movie posters, or hell, even holidays usually have 2-3 complementing colors. Your job is to catch eyes and draw people to your product.

There's even shit like pic related where people talk about how overused blue and orange is in movie posters, but it is still eye catching. And hey, guess what colors Goku, debatably the most visually recognizable anime/manga character is wearing as his default outfit?

Or look at something like Sailor Moon, or Saint Seiya, or even something like Power Rangers, where every character generally has one themed color, with some other possible minor complementary colors.

It makes them stand out, and instantly recognizable. If everyone looks the same, or has sloppy, mismatched, or ugly colors, they're going to be forgettable.

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>>7729346
the eye example is kinda shitty because the crossed out ones are a magniture more attractive than the "symmetrical" ones

>>7732411
Try posting it to /mmg/. I hear they're pretty cool.

>>7732464
I've said it before and I'll say it again - despite the warts that comes from posting on this site, /ic/ and /mmg/ is the only place that actually gives half a shit on giving genuine commentary once you filter out all the shitposting and crabs. I've TRIED to leave this place for literally any place better, and I simply can't find anything. Sure, there might be some super private discord server or the like I'm not finding since I don't cross those circles, but for public posting there's literally nowhere better. I actually look forward to reading other anons' comics here.

>>7732525
I keep telling people its the anonymity

>>7732378
>>7732385
This kind of thing is a meritocracy though. You've just misunderstood what merit are being looked for.
Now you can observe the merits of the works or you can seethe about it while getting nowhere and learning nothing but hate.

>>7732382
>In every big manga
Not every big manga. Nanatsu no Taizai's author inked every stroke himself, he just has help with the tones. Q Hayashida does it all herself, including tones.

>>7731912
No, I actually draw unlike you.
I've been drawing for years. An anime girl face is easy to me unlike you, loser.

>>7732419
>>7732424
both of these are correct
>>7732464
dude this place is for nobodies, for example >>7730249 nobody cares about this guys work, and they're not even bad. They're asking for traction and marketing.

>>7732411
I went to reddit comic collabs, it's a place of scammers. The writers scam some dumbass artists into working for free. As for the artists, their success comes from commissioning dreamers for their dunning-kruger writings.
If you have high quality art and writing, no doubt people will care, just keep shilling everywhere. IG, X, pixiv, globalmix, namicomi, manga creators.
Or maybe you need to study Japanese first and get published in Japan to get success on monetization, comic printing is dead everywhere else. Go digital and paywall next chapters.
That's at least my impression.

Globalmix and Namicomi are underpaid.
Easier to get successful with braindead genre such as shounen and webtoon trash.
Porn isn’t included here, it’s easy to be successful anywhere with that garbage.

So yeah, making manga just isn't worth it even if you're successful. In fact, there's many with professional looking art. You don't just know them. Just browse reddit comic collabs for example. I even know plenty not from there.

>>7732648
I challenge you, on your honor, to post an anime girl face you've drawn.

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>>7732655
>namicomi
>>Prohibited Content.
>>Abusive or hateful Content that accept, promote, or foment discrimination based on one’s ethnicity, nation, race, skin color, family origin, gender, sexual orientation, disease, religion and other social matters.

you guys think trying to appropriate the style of less polished mangas like Dorohedoro is a better idea than some "higher skill" mangas? Its alot easier to take elements from mangas like attack on titan and apply them, then something like beserk. feel like that could be setting myself up for failure though

>>7732863
Messy styles can be harder to get right than polished, because it's less clear what they're doing right.

Ultimately you should focus on your fundamentals instead, as pretty much everyone here is lacking in them and no amount of style will hide it. You can point at popular manga which tend to have poor fundamentals to cope, but the fact is that they have the insurmountable advantage of being Japanese creators with the entire support of the manga infrastructure behind them their whole lives, and you don't.

>>7732888
>pretty much everyone here is lacking in them
In my eyes, pretty much everyone here is lacking in artstyle.

It's quantity versus quality. Also some high-quality manga can have too much background detail and solid, but static, fundamentals, yet still manage to be boring to read. For me, Witch Hat Atelier is like that. No matter how good the art is, I just can't get into it.

>>7732892
Completely wrong. Plenty of people here have a distinct style
>>7732413
>>7731776
>>7730068
>>7728181
>>7725433
>>7725274
>>7722931
Every one of these anons can be identified from any page they post because their style is unique and recognizable, even if you don't personally find them appealing.

What they are lacking is fundamental structure underneath to give their styles a solid foundation.

>>7732894
>distinct style
Personal quirks that don't contribute to art quality and are used as a crutch to make yourself "identifiable" don't constitute an artstyle.

>>7732893
>>7732863

>>7732896
shizo moment again, go draw already

>>7732894
>What they are lacking is fundamental structure underneath
How does that look like? Can you redraw any of those but with more fundies so we can see?

>>7732903
I'm not going to redraw anyone's pages, but you can see in the first one the poor anatomy, especially on the hands and feet, as well as ineffective framing and composition on the bottom two panels just as an example.

All of them suffer from poor line weight, inconsistent shapes and forms, especially from anatomy, general lack of polish or care in the hatching and shading, tangent lines, etc. These are things editors point out in serial manga, it's important to the overall perception of the product.

The issue is that for amateurs, all of this can be dismissed as "that's just their style" if you wanted to, but they can absolutely maintain their style while cleaning up their product and making it look professional and presentable.

What I appreciate is that although /mmg/ anons could overall use more fundies (I mean, frankly what artist on /ic/ genuinely doesn't if we're all being honest with ourselves), I've been quietly watching their work over the months and years and almost all of them have been steadily getting better. Whereas over on /co/ you have the /hyw/ threads and holy moly those guys do not give a single solitary FUCK about the fundamentals of anything at all, be it drawing people or even the meta aspects of making a comic itself.
Keep going /mmg/ anons.

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>>7733079
Sending her my energy.

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So, anyone else starting a manga for the Neo-Japanese? That market is going to be 1 billion strong soon.
I'm thinking like doing OPM, but Saitama is a jeet, and the monsters are just regular japs.

Also all the girls are really into him.
And he's really tall. Also I can keep the same the same. "Saitama"

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>>7733136
Any jeets who even look in my manga's direction WILL be sued

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>>7732923
>All of them suffer from poor line weight, inconsistent shapes and forms, especially from anatomy, general lack of polish or care in the hatching and shading, tangent lines, etc. These are things editors point out in serial manga, it's important to the overall perception of the product.

Kinda funny, because you can make a lot of the same observations about professional, published manga as well. For instance, As much as I like manga like Dorohedoro and Dai Dark, I find Q Hayashida's artwork to be pretty sloppy, almost amateurish in numerous instances, mostly in the things you've listed.

You can level make the same assertions again a bunch of other highly-coveted manga like AoT and CSM.

>>7733163
I'm gonna refer you to
>>7732888
>You can point at popular manga which tend to have poor fundamentals to cope, but the fact is that they have the insurmountable advantage of being Japanese creators with the entire support of the manga infrastructure behind them their whole lives, and you don't.

We not lucky enough to be born into the perfect environment to support and foster comic creators must work harder to stand out and be seen

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You guys nitpick things that no one cares. If it looks good then it's good.
>Nooo my lineweights, my michelagelo proportions in my mangarino!
This is just like that berserk thread of crabs saying miura art is bad. What do you want? People to first reach Alex Ross level before starting drawing a comic?

>>7733189
What do you want from here, if not critique?
We're not just going to suck your dick for your mediocre work and give you fire emojis and 100s

If that's what you want, please exit the thread and return to instaxitter

>>7733189
You really think you are on the level of Miura? Is that your statement? Gonna need you to qualify that.

>>7733199
>Critique
Spamming on this general to call everything here shit because is not old master tier is not being a critic, you retard.

>>7733187
Lol, there are plenty of manga that fail out, and/or get cancelled, and plenty of them who have had successful first series that there is minimal or no interest in their later series.

If anything, Japanese audiences are way more picky and their support can come and go on a whim. They don't succeed just for being Japanese.

>>7733206
>really think you are on the level of Miura? Is that your statement?
Imagine having this kind of reading comprehension. Yep, you never had any intention of being honest.

>>7733210
I wasn't referring to the support of audiences. They have the support of an industry built to help them succeed and reach their full potential by offering a full pipeline from nobody to hit author.

>>7733207
>Spamming on this general to call everything here shit because is not old master tier
Imagine having this kind of reading comprehension. Yep, you never had any intention of being honest.

>>7733216
If you love Japan so much, why don't you go there?

>>7733219
If you make comics so much, why don't you post them?